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 Necking (guitars), Stratocaster copy neck change questions

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j05h
post May 13 2006, 06:45 PM

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Even if you could find a neck, whether they'll mate is another story. There are slight neck pocket variations amongst manufacturers, and necks also vary in size. Considering the tolerences are so fine, you may have to engage in some woodwork to mate them effectively, and to ensure the angles are correct.

Other than that, the necks are a breeze to change. 4 screws, and that's it. If everything mates properly, then it's no problem doing it yourself. If not, you might have to remove wood from the cavity (never the neck itself), or use shims to ensure the string height's manageable.

I'm not sure where you can find necks, or how much they'd be. If you're lucky, one may pop up somewhere, but I doubt they'd be under 300, too. The cheapo ones I saw in Ochanamizu's Ishi were already pushing 400.

My bassist's Pyramid JB clone's also suffering, I think the truss rod's broken. Nut spins in the access hole, no change in relief. There's a major bow in the neck, and it's getting worse.

What noisetrigger said may make sense. Might be an idea to start saving for something better (like that 750 Jap strat, that's sweet). Of the options you have available, this may seem more expensive, but in the long run it's more worthwhile.
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post May 14 2006, 04:12 AM

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QUOTE(PSY84 @ May 13 2006, 08:31 PM)
strato neck? (I think mostly from fender)

BTw, that's not my site, just that a site i bump into
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They're all a hundred pounds or more. Factor in shipping and all that, it's going to be close to a grand.

Gear in UK is generally overpriced. From the States, it'll be less, but not much less. Ultimately, the neck will cost pretty much more than the original guitar. Makes more sense to buy a new one.

QUOTE(littlefox @ May 13 2006, 09:31 PM)
Okay, slightly related question:

How hard would it be to take some suitable blocks of wood and shape it into an electric guitar?
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Haha not that easy, y'know. People don't pay thousands in the States to go to luthier schools for nothing. That said, Brian May did manage to make his own guitar with a bit of help from his dad, I think.

Suitable wood: your classic Strat timber isn't easily found here in a big enough block. You'll get ash or alder flooring strips and all, but you'll have to hunt like mad to get something that'll be bg enough. Same goes for the maple neck blank. You can order from overseas, but it's a fair bet that the first few blanks you cut will be nothing more than practise scraps. Pre-cut bodies and necks aren't cheap, and neither is the shipping.

Tools: yeah, a lot, and they're not cheap, too. Unless you have access to a shop with jigsaws, routers, drill presses, sanders and all the required jigs and templates and whatnot.

Hardware: truss rods, machine heads, neck plates, bridge assemblies, pups, switches, pots, everything down to the little ferrules and strap buttons. Aiks.

Finishing: You can try an auto finish shop. Or go to Ace and pick up some Minwax wipe-on poly. Very labour intensive and it's easy to get wrong.

What might be an idea: GIM smile.gif

Yeah, people give GIM a lot of stick, but hey, where else can you learn to make a guitar here? You could maybe get them to make you a neck? That might be a possibility. You can google to get their details.
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post May 14 2006, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 14 2006, 02:07 PM)
well i say etc tongue.gif
usually ppl take those matchstick boxes, not those cardboard ones the ones made from  those thin pieces of wood, and ripoff a piece from it and stick it there.
i've done it before also and it seems ok.
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You can use almost anything to shim as long as it's thin enough. Under that pressure and in that location, it doesn't matter if it's cardboard or a wooden shim or a used condom.

Well, almost anything, lah.

 

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