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 [WTA]Fiesta vs 208 vs Inspira vs Prius C, <RM90k car for Single late 20s male

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TSLeoWillis
post Jul 6 2013, 08:22 PM, updated 13y ago

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Waiting for the 1.5L Fiesta this year & 1.0L Fiesta next year before make decision.

For now...
1st choice - 2.0E Inspira
2nd choice - 1.0L Fiesta
3rd choice - 1.5L Fiesta



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post Jul 6 2013, 08:28 PM

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Love the fiesta.
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:30 PM

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car 1,2,3 are fun to drive.

fast car? 3.

but i have seen car 4 doing 180kmh and cucuk all the way, so...its really up to u and salesman
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:30 PM

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What is the difference between Fiesta 1.6 S 2013 and 2014?

We're not even sure yet which variant will arrive at our shores for the facelift.
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 6 2013, 08:30 PM)
car 1,2,3 are fun to drive.

fast car? 3.

but i have seen car 4 doing 180kmh and cucuk all the way, so...its really up to u and salesman
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for city drive(with so many corners & traffic lights), I consider all 3 cars as fast car...Except in highway
then i should see which salesman service me better & giving me better offer~ lol biggrin.gif


QUOTE(dares @ Jul 6 2013, 08:30 PM)
What is the difference between Fiesta 1.6 S 2013 and 2014?

We're not even sure yet which variant will arrive at our shores for the facelift.
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true, it's not announce yet. But based on the Europe ver & US ver, the "Aston Martin" grille like Fiesta is really is a charm... I hope the 2014 ver. provide even more & better interior from the 2013 ver.
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:39 PM

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Maintenance for Inspira is not cheap... If I am still single, will go for Fiesta or 208. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 6 2013, 08:37 PM)
for city drive(with so many corners & traffic lights), I consider all 3 cars as fast car...Except in highway
then i should see which salesman service me better & giving me better offer~ lol  biggrin.gif
true, it's not announce yet. But based on the Europe ver & US ver, the "Aston Martin" grille like Fiesta is really is a charm... I hope the 2014 ver. provide even more & better interior from the 2013 ver.
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those 1.6 car are not fast in city. even 2.0 are not fast.

those milotin car like myvi/vios are fast in city.


i suggest you try each car with 3 test drives with frens around, because if you test drive with 1 round and high speed test means nothing. try corner corner at the shop area, traffic light, and bring frens.

just do more test drives. it help. btw, aston martin grill on small car is shakehead.gif even the grill on cerato kia(looks better on K5) is not favorable to many.

do endless of test drives, until you smile when you imagine you really driving that car, then, thats the car you want.
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post Jul 6 2013, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(ironfolic @ Jul 6 2013, 08:39 PM)
Maintenance for Inspira is not cheap... If I am still single, will go for Fiesta or 208. thumbup.gif
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Although I don't have actual facts. But i think the small cc continental cars are as expensive as the 2.0cc inspira.


QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 6 2013, 08:41 PM)
those 1.6 car are not fast in city. even 2.0 are not fast.

those milotin car like myvi/vios are fast in city.
i suggest you try each car with 3 test drives with frens around, because if you test drive with 1 round and high speed test means nothing. try corner corner at the shop area, traffic light, and bring frens.

just do more test drives. it help. btw, aston martin grill on small car is  shakehead.gif  even the grill on cerato  kia(looks better on K5) is not favorable to many.

do endless of test drives, until you smile when you imagine you really driving that car, then, thats the car you want.
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lol, thanks for the advise... I would try it when i reduce the shortlist to 2 cars... rclxms.gif
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post Jul 6 2013, 09:59 PM

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Have you considered the Fiesta sedan? The looks is... not so nice, but you get much better safety features (since that may decide whether you'll be alive or not a few years down the road I'd consider it important smile.gif ). Price is a bit lower than the Fiesta Sport.
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post Jul 6 2013, 10:17 PM

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does fiesta sedan come with ESC?
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post Jul 6 2013, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 6 2013, 09:59 PM)
Have you considered the Fiesta sedan? The looks is... not so nice, but you get much better safety features (since that may decide whether you'll be alive or not a few years down the road I'd consider it important smile.gif ). Price is a bit lower than the Fiesta Sport.
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you mean more airbags?? i think these extra airbags are for the sake of the passanger...lol

QUOTE(chemistry @ Jul 6 2013, 10:17 PM)
does fiesta sedan come with ESC?
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i believe in Ford, they called it ESP
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post Jul 6 2013, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(chemistry @ Jul 6 2013, 10:17 PM)
does fiesta sedan come with ESC?
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Yes

QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 6 2013, 10:29 PM)
you mean more airbags?? i think these extra airbags are for the sake of the passanger...lol
i believe in Ford, they called it ESP
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The driver will benefit from the side airbag, curtain airbags and knee airbag as well.
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post Jul 6 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 6 2013, 08:41 PM)
those 1.6 car are not fast in city. even 2.0 are not fast.

those milotin car like myvi/vios are fast in city.
i suggest you try each car with 3 test drives with frens around, because if you test drive with 1 round and high speed test means nothing. try corner corner at the shop area, traffic light, and bring frens.

just do more test drives. it help. btw, aston martin grill on small car is  shakehead.gif  even the grill on cerato  kia(looks better on K5) is not favorable to many.

do endless of test drives, until you smile when you imagine you really driving that car, then, thats the car you want.
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Cars that feel fast aren't really fast. Because of lightweight, less stable give you the impression of fast? Cars that can really go fast would not feel fast at all as it is too stable and you'll only notice when looking at speedometer.

The bigger heavier C-segment Forte 1.6 and Elantra 1.6 actually beats Vios in 0-100km/h acceleration by 0.3s. You play hard cornering, you'll trust the old Forte and current Elantra better. Corner around shop areas is dangerous to pedestrians and other road users. Do it at somewhere secluded not open to public better.

Back to TS request:
If this car is his only source of bread car where every1 depends on, he should void hybrid at all cost. Based on his list, I suggest he go for Fiesta for handling, safety, easy drive, reliability/durability, FC and ease of maintenance.

If he really wanted C-segment to ferry parents around and wanted hassle free, go for Elantra 1.6. If he finds C-segment 1.6L not enough power, he can consider old Forte 2.0L if he doesn't mind being phased out soon.

This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 6 2013, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 6 2013, 10:56 PM)
Cars that feel fast aren't really fast. Because of lightweight, less stable give you the impression of fast? Cars that can really go fast would not feel fast at all as it is too stable and you'll only notice when looking at speedometer.

The bigger heavier C-segment Forte 1.6 and Elantra 1.6 actually beats Vios in 0-100km/h acceleration by 0.3s. You play hard cornering, you'll trust the old Forte and current Elantra better. Corner around shop areas is dangerous to pedestrians and other road users. Do it at somewhere secluded not open to public better.

Back to TS request.
If this car is his only source of bread car where every1 depends on, he should void hybrid at all cost. Based on his list, I suggest he go for Fiesta for handling, safety, easy drive, reliability/durability, FC and ease of maintenance.
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u dont go 0-100 in city, city. remember, city. stop and go.

and the 0.3S is typical korean bs la.

0-60 can forte or elantra beat any milotin like myvi/vios ??

see my avatar.

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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 6 2013, 08:22 PM)


BTW, I'm at my late 20s single male.

P/s: The segment of the car, Resale value & fuel consumption are not crucial here
I'm look for a better overall performance/exterior/interior car which can last me longer(until i can afford better & bigger car)
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from your words..only one answer inspira 2.0p
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 6 2013, 10:39 PM)
Yes
The driver will benefit from the side airbag, curtain airbags and knee airbag as well.
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icic... but i don't trust these airbags anyway, even though scientific proven it is true~ tongue.gif
most important is, the sedan looks.... yucks rclxub.gif


QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 6 2013, 10:56 PM)
Back to TS request:
If this car is his only source of bread car where every1 depends on, he should void hybrid at all cost. Based on his list, I suggest he go for Fiesta for handling, safety, easy drive, reliability/durability, FC and ease of maintenance.

If he really wanted C-segment to ferry parents around and wanted hassle free, go for Elantra 1.6. If he finds C-segment 1.6L not enough power, he can consider old Forte 2.0L if he doesn't mind being phased out soon.
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Thanks for your suggestion. But i don't understand about the "source of bread" part. Do you mean it has a higher maintenance cost?


QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 6 2013, 10:58 PM)
u dont go 0-100 in city, city. remember, city. stop and go.

and the 0.3S is typical korean bs la.

0-60 can forte or elantra beat any milotin like myvi/vios ??

see my avatar.
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You got the point though sweat.gif
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post Jul 6 2013, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 6 2013, 11:19 PM)
icic... but i don't trust these airbags anyway, even though scientific proven it is true~  tongue.gif
most important is, the sedan looks.... yucks  rclxub.gif
Thanks for your suggestion. But i don't understand about the "source of bread" part. Do you mean it has a higher maintenance cost?
You got the point though  sweat.gif
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Hi LeoWillis,
Source of bread is like breadwinner. Meaning that you'll depend on the car for going to work, fetching brother, sister or parents around where that car must keep running and running without breakdown. If without the car, you will have hard time, example if you do outdoor marketing where you need that car to move from places to meet clients, etc. If this is your only car, you should focus on cars with easy maintenance.

Airbags are proven as there's 1 idiot I knew that often got into serious accident for reckless driving. He said airbags saved him few times. Feel like wanted to tear his driving license preventing him from driving forever than let him endangering innocents.

Ignore stinger82, at 1 time he said going fast is important and at the other end, he said 0-100km/h is not important under city driving. Don't know what he wanted. Acceleration 0-100km/h and handling are not meant for reckless driving but for safety especially in defensive driving. You'll need them to safely evade unexpected obstacle and to get you out of harm's way.

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 6 2013, 11:32 PM)
Hi LeoWillis,
Source of bread is like breadwinner. Meaning that you'll depend on the car for going to work, fetching brother, sister or parents around where that car must keep running and running without breakdown. If without the car, you will have hard time, example if you do outdoor marketing where you need that car to move from places to meet clients, etc. If this is your only car, you should focus on cars with easy maintenance.

Airbags are proven as there's 1 idiot I knew that often got into serious accident for reckless driving. He said airbags saved him few times. Feel like wanted to tear his driving license preventing him from driving forever than let him endangering innocents.

Ignore stinger82, at 1 time he said going fast is important and at the other end, he said 0-100km/h is not important under city driving. Don't know what he wanted. Acceleration 0-100km/h and handling are not meant for reckless driving but for safety especially in defensive driving. You'll need them to safely evade unexpected obstacle and to get you out of harm's way.
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i understand what is source of bread. So, you mean the Prius C are harder to maintenance?

'cause from what i see in the LYN Prius C club, the maintenance cost is quite affordable. Just not sure about the "easy maintenance" you meant compare to conventional car~

i believe stinger82 has his point, as what i mentioned was using the car for city drive. For handling, i haven't try about the Prius C. But for the 3 cars yes, decent handling especially the 208, where i felt it when hard cornering at around 90kmh when test drive. (the only test car done this)
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I did not vote. As diff people have diff needs.. Its better for u to specify what you are looking for? What are more important for u? Safety? Size? Driving pleasure? Mod available? Maintenance? Fc?

mind you inspira is not cheap to maintain! (Dont you think it is a proton and cheap to maintain) smile.gif
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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 6 2013, 11:49 PM)
i understand what is source of bread. So, you mean the Prius C are harder to maintenance?

'cause from what i see in the LYN Prius C club, the maintenance cost is quite affordable. Just not sure about the "easy maintenance" you meant compare to conventional car~

i believe stinger82 has his point, as what i mentioned was using the car for city drive. For handling, i haven't try about the Prius C. But for the 3 cars yes, decent handling especially the 208, where i felt it when hard cornering at around 90kmh when test drive. (the only test car done this)
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Are you rich in the first place? If you don't have problem forking out RM30k if anything goes wrong after warranty ended and this is your spare car, then you can go for hybrid.

If you go for hybrid, you'll have to stick to it for long term till end as its RV will not be good. Those who buy used cars aren't so rich and they ain't gonna risk buying hybrid at the moment.

Remember, warranty is not guarantee and you still have to pay for maintenance and spare parts. Battery is not issue but the electric engine, inverter, high tech electronic components/modules are your concern.

As our local technician/foreman are highly underpaid like blue collar job earning only RM1.5k after working over 5 years despite highly educated, most of them won't stay in the field for long. This means there won't be many experienced engineers in SC and anything faulty, they'll ask you to replace the parts rather than fixing it. Hybrid cars if involved in accident, will have much to worry should there be collateral damage to nobody knows how to fix electronic parts, undetected at that time of insurance claim. This is why they have tax exemption on hybrid cars as they know many won't dare to buy unless rich.

Check with SC directly for the interval service cost and also check spare part price with those spare part suppliers outside to evaluate cost of overall maintenance and ownership before you even think of buying any of the cars.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 7 2013, 12:14 AM)
Are you rich in the first place? If you don't have problem forking out RM30k if anything goes wrong after warranty ended and this is your spare car, then you can go for hybrid.

If you go for hybrid, you'll have to stick to it for long term till end as its RV will not be good. Those who buy used cars aren't so rich and they ain't gonna risk buying hybrid at the moment.

Remember, warranty is not guarantee and you still have to pay for maintenance and spare parts. Battery is not issue but the electric engine, inverter, high tech electronic components/modules are your concern.

As our local technician/foreman are highly underpaid like blue collar job earning only RM1.5k after working over 5 years despite highly educated, most of them won't stay in the field for long. This means there won't be many experienced engineers in SC and anything faulty, they'll ask you to replace the parts rather than fixing it. Hybrid cars if involved in accident, will have much to worry should there be collateral damage to nobody knows how to fix electronic parts, undetected at that time of insurance claim. This is why they have tax exemption on hybrid cars as they know many won't dare to buy unless rich.

Check with SC directly for the interval service cost and also check spare part price with those spare part suppliers outside to evaluate cost of overall maintenance and ownership before you even think of buying any of the cars.
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got it, thanks for the details explanation~

This is a strong point where i need to put into consideration. Anyway, i'm going for a testdrive tomorrow & try to ask about the questions u've mentioned (at least some of the questions biggrin.gif )
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30k? Honda already said 4k for the battery, and the Prius won't be so much more expensive. Also, the Prius 1 and 3 were very reliable, perhaps the C is too. Toyota has invested a lot into these cars, unlike cars like the Vios which were probably very cheap to develop. The Yaris (Vios hatchback) isn't very reliable, the Prius is extremely reliable.

But yes, mechanics may not be able to handle them...

As for airbags: They work very well, and especially side airbags are crucial IMHO. Of course you do need to wear your seatbelt at all times, while that is important for all cars it is even more so with airbags, as they can kill you if you don't wear your seatbelt (though you'll probably die anyway). Yes, even at slow speeds, like 30 km/h not wearing your seatbelt can be deadly.

As for feeling fast: A Kancil will make you feel like a racing driver at 80. A Mercedes S class will feel slower than that at 250. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 7 2013, 12:14 AM)
Are you rich in the first place? If you don't have problem forking out RM30k if anything goes wrong after warranty ended and this is your spare car, then you can go for hybrid.

If you go for hybrid, you'll have to stick to it for long term till end as its RV will not be good. Those who buy used cars aren't so rich and they ain't gonna risk buying hybrid at the moment.

Remember, warranty is not guarantee and you still have to pay for maintenance and spare parts. Battery is not issue but the electric engine, inverter, high tech electronic components/modules are your concern.

As our local technician/foreman are highly underpaid like blue collar job earning only RM1.5k after working over 5 years despite highly educated, most of them won't stay in the field for long. This means there won't be many experienced engineers in SC and anything faulty, they'll ask you to replace the parts rather than fixing it. Hybrid cars if involved in accident, will have much to worry should there be collateral damage to nobody knows how to fix electronic parts, undetected at that time of insurance claim. This is why they have tax exemption on hybrid cars as they know many won't dare to buy unless rich.

Check with SC directly for the interval service cost and also check spare part price with those spare part suppliers outside to evaluate cost of overall maintenance and ownership before you even think of buying any of the cars.
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my Prius regular maintenance is dirt cheap, may be even cheaper than a Vios as not much wear and tear parts to replace. Beltless operation, electric motor is zero maintenance, in case you never bothered to check. that 30k you mentioned will probably fit more for less known for durability brands that will have gearbox/engine problems. blush.gif
(Prius with engine braking tech allows the brake pads to be replaced at 100k miles ~160k km, mine has reached 50k+ and still need not replace)

3 million Toyota hybrids now on the road and Toyota will have problems such as insufficient technician/foreman to service their own hybrid? Like it or not, technicians/foreman will have to upgrade to follow the trend, the same goes with turbo engines. SkyActiv is another new type of engine. People adapt, if they don't they are left out and opportunity arises for others. I seriously we shouldn't be having this kind of thinking and stick with the old NA ICE.

I know generally Malaysians are ignorant about tech, but even in FnF? doh.gif

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TS, i chose Prius C for you due to the following reasons. (As i have first hand experience with my Prius)

**Pros**
-Reliable Engine (Taken for Prius mk1 1.5L, tuned & upgraded for current Prius C)
-No 1 fuel saver car, easily reach 22-25km/L (~4L/100km)
-7 Airbags
-CBU Japan
-Good CVT transmission (Much better than my mom's CRZ, sorry CRZ fans/owners. They don't jerk and they are very reliable, just look up e-CVT design @Google.
-Great discount now, who knows if the tax exemption will ever be renewed for next year?
-Saves alot of $$$, BN is struggling to keep RON95 @RM1.90
-Regenerative braking, you rarely need to change your brake pads, how cool is that? tongue.gif
-Travel locally more with your family without worrying about petrol price! tongue.gif

**Cons**
-Not very likeable interior, apparently your $$$ goes under the hood more
-Subjective rear exterior design (I don't like it too)
-Not trying to be biased here, but nothing comes up anymore

Prius HSD is about efficiency, though performance aren't really lacking with all that torque from the electric motor, but it isn't exactly cutting everyone else too.

Your $$$, your choice smile.gif

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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Jul 7 2013, 09:06 AM)
TS, i chose Prius C for you due to the following reasons. (As i have first hand experience with my Prius)

**Pros**
-Reliable Engine (Taken for Prius mk1 1.5L, tuned & upgraded for current Prius C)
-No 1 fuel saver car, easily reach 22-25km/L (~4L/100km)
-7 Airbags
-CBU Japan
-Good CVT transmission (Much better than my mom's CRZ, sorry CRZ fans/owners. They don't jerk and they are very reliable, just look up e-CVT design @Google.
-Great discount now, who knows if the tax exemption will ever be renewed for next year?
-Saves alot of $$$, BN is struggling to keep RON95 @RM1.90
-Regenerative braking, you rarely need to change your brake pads, how cool is that? tongue.gif
-Travel locally more with your family without worrying about petrol price! tongue.gif

**Cons**
-Not very likeable interior, apparently your $$$ goes under the hood more
-Subjective rear exterior design (I don't like it too)
-Not trying to be biased here, but nothing comes up anymore

Prius HSD is about efficiency, though performance aren't really lacking with all that torque from the electric motor, but it isn't exactly cutting everyone else too.

Your $$$, your choice smile.gif
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This gonna help TS a lot.
Very good sharing compare to some just base on brochure or personal thinking and talking the fact.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 7 2013, 12:31 AM)
30k? Honda already said 4k for the battery, and the Prius won't be so much more expensive. Also, the Prius 1 and 3 were very reliable, perhaps the C is too. Toyota has invested a lot into these cars, unlike cars like the Vios which were probably very cheap to develop. The Yaris (Vios hatchback) isn't very reliable, the Prius is extremely reliable.

But yes, mechanics may not be able to handle them...

As for airbags: They work very well, and especially side airbags are crucial IMHO. Of course you do need to wear your seatbelt at all times, while that is important for all cars it is even more so with airbags, as they can kill you if you don't wear your seatbelt (though you'll probably die anyway). Yes, even at slow speeds, like 30 km/h not wearing your seatbelt can be deadly.

As for feeling fast: A Kancil will make you feel like a racing driver at 80. A Mercedes S class will feel slower than that at 250. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Jul 7 2013, 08:50 AM)
my Prius regular maintenance is dirt cheap, may be even cheaper than a Vios as not much wear and tear parts to replace. Beltless operation, electric motor is zero maintenance, in case you never bothered to check. that 30k you mentioned will probably fit more for less known for durability brands that will have gearbox/engine problems.  blush.gif
(Prius with engine braking tech allows the brake pads to be replaced at 100k miles ~160k km, mine has reached 50k+ and still need not replace)

3 million Toyota hybrids now on the road and Toyota will have problems such as insufficient technician/foreman to service their own hybrid? Like it or not, technicians/foreman will have to upgrade to follow the trend, the same goes with turbo engines. SkyActiv is another new type of engine. People adapt, if they don't they are left out and opportunity arises for others. I seriously we shouldn't be having this kind of thinking and stick with the old NA ICE.

I know generally Malaysians are ignorant about tech, but even in FnF?  doh.gif
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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Jul 7 2013, 09:06 AM)
TS, i chose Prius C for you due to the following reasons. (As i have first hand experience with my Prius)

**Pros**
-Reliable Engine (Taken for Prius mk1 1.5L, tuned & upgraded for current Prius C)
-No 1 fuel saver car, easily reach 22-25km/L (~4L/100km)
-7 Airbags
-CBU Japan
-Good CVT transmission (Much better than my mom's CRZ, sorry CRZ fans/owners. They don't jerk and they are very reliable, just look up e-CVT design @Google.
-Great discount now, who knows if the tax exemption will ever be renewed for next year?
-Saves alot of $$$, BN is struggling to keep RON95 @RM1.90
-Regenerative braking, you rarely need to change your brake pads, how cool is that? tongue.gif
-Travel locally more with your family without worrying about petrol price! tongue.gif

**Cons**
-Not very likeable interior, apparently your $$$ goes under the hood more
-Subjective rear exterior design (I don't like it too)
-Not trying to be biased here, but nothing comes up anymore

Prius HSD is about efficiency, though performance aren't really lacking with all that torque from the electric motor, but it isn't exactly cutting everyone else too.

Your $$$, your choice smile.gif
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Thanks for the advise~ biggrin.gif

Im going to visit the showroom later~ thumbup.gif
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any more flaming & poisoning?? xD
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any more flaming & poisoning?? xD
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I was in your situation, between Fiesta and Inspira.

Although in the end I choose the Ford, but sometimes I see an Inspira on the road I wish I bought the Inspira instead.

But I know if I bought the Inspira, everytime I see a Fiesta on the road I will wish I bought a Fiesta.

It's a lose-lose situation sad.gif In cantonese parlance, I'm very fan-jin 犯贱 blush.gif
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I was in your situation, between Fiesta and Inspira.

Although in the end I choose the Ford, but sometimes I see an Inspira on the road I wish I bought the Inspira instead.

But I know if I bought the Inspira, everytime I see a Fiesta on the road I will wish I bought a Fiesta.

It's a lose-lose situation  sad.gif In cantonese parlance, I'm very fan-jin 犯贱 blush.gif
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if possible , you wish you have bought both.
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I was in your situation, between Fiesta and Inspira.

Although in the end I choose the Ford, but sometimes I see an Inspira on the road I wish I bought the Inspira instead.

But I know if I bought the Inspira, everytime I see a Fiesta on the road I will wish I bought a Fiesta.

It's a lose-lose situation  sad.gif In cantonese parlance, I'm very fan-jin 犯贱 blush.gif
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U made the right choice.. Inspira is a proton anyway
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I was in your situation, between Fiesta and Inspira.

Although in the end I choose the Ford, but sometimes I see an Inspira on the road I wish I bought the Inspira instead.

But I know if I bought the Inspira, everytime I see a Fiesta on the road I will wish I bought a Fiesta.

It's a lose-lose situation  sad.gif In cantonese parlance, I'm very fan-jin 犯贱 blush.gif
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u got problem izit, ford vs proton still need to consider, of coz ford la brows.gif handling good yo... icon_idea.gif
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u got problem izit, ford vs proton still need to consider, of coz ford la  brows.gif  handling good yo... icon_idea.gif
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But the Proton is a much bigger car, different segment, and it probably also will handle quite good, right?

I don't think it is so easy to decide which one to go for.
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But the Proton is a much bigger car, different segment, and it probably also will handle quite good, right?

I don't think it is so easy to decide which one to go for.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 8 2013, 11:56 PM)
But the Proton is a much bigger car, different segment, and it probably also will handle quite good, right?

I don't think it is so easy to decide which one to go for.
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i actually drove my fren's fiesta 1.4 few times, stock handling wise quite good, very agile , but steering feel too light.
suspension quite stiff, even more bumpy after he changed to 205/45r16 sweat.gif during high speed cornering time, dont know why the rear keep jumping, may b too light , i got no idea.

inspira stock wise , handling truly meant to be comfort. stock suspension setup too much body roll, but steering feel not bad due to hydraulic type power steering.

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 9 2013, 12:02 AM)
i actually drove my fren's fiesta 1.4 few times, stock handling wise quite good, very agile , but steering feel too light.
suspension quite stiff, even more bumpy after he changed to 205/45r16  sweat.gif  during high speed cornering time, dont know why the rear keep jumping, may b too light , i got no idea.

inspira stock wise , handling truly meant to be comfort. stock suspension setup too much body roll, but steering feel not bad due to hydraulic type power steering.

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U made the right choice.. Inspira is a proton anyway
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u got problem izit, ford vs proton still need to consider, of coz ford la  brows.gif  handling good yo... icon_idea.gif
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But the Proton is a much bigger car, different segment, and it probably also will handle quite good, right?

I don't think it is so easy to decide which one to go for.
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For some ppl. The badge is the barrier.
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 9 2013, 12:02 AM)
i actually drove my fren's fiesta 1.4 few times, stock handling wise quite good, very agile , but steering feel too light.
suspension quite stiff, even more bumpy after he changed to 205/45r16  sweat.gif  during high speed cornering time, dont know why the rear keep jumping, may b too light , i got no idea.

inspira stock wise , handling truly meant to be comfort. stock suspension setup too much body roll, but steering feel not bad due to hydraulic type power steering.

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Fiesta 1.6 S has different suspension than Fiesta 1.4 LX, but the rear hops as well when cornering on uneven roads. I blame the stiff suspension and the torsion beam unsure.gif
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U sure u are a fair non bias reviewer?
I prefer the fair and non bias reviewer ..
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i js given some of my opinion about my lancer gl chasis car only biggrin.gif
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Fiesta 1.6 S has different suspension than Fiesta 1.4 LX, but the rear hops as well when cornering on uneven roads. I blame the stiff suspension and the torsion beam  unsure.gif
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stiffer than fiesta 1.4?  blink.gif
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No idea...probably.

According to Ford SDAC the S gets the "Sport tuned suspension" whereas the 1.4 LX and Sedan LX gets the "Standard suspension". hmm.gif the S also runs on 16" stock whereas the 1.4 LX is 15"....but you mentioned your friend has swapped to 16" as well hmm.gif
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No idea...probably.

According to Ford SDAC the S gets the "Sport tuned suspension" whereas the 1.4 LX and Sedan LX gets the "Standard suspension".  hmm.gif the S also runs on 16" stock whereas the 1.4 LX is 15"....but you mentioned your friend has swapped to 16" as well  hmm.gif
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yup, some old pic before roof spray to black

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Nice car btw wub.gif is it the new model (7 airbags) or the old one (1 airbag)?
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Spray cheaper than sticker?  hmm.gif

Nice car btw  wub.gif is it the new model (7 airbags) or the old one (1 airbag)?
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now he looking to remap his fiesta,because exchaust changed smile.gif

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spray can polish and looks better  tongue.gif
old one, 1 airbag model, 2010 car

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now he looking to remap his fiesta,because exchaust changed  smile.gif
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shoo shoo....My car fully stock whistling.gif

Lucky I didn't buy Inspila, if I got one and join you guys TT....I sure broke like nobody's business doh.gif

P/S: WTF his other car is an R8 icon_question.gif

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shoo shoo....My car fully stock whistling.gif

Lucky I didn't buy Inspila, if I got one and join you guys TT....I sure broke like nobody's business  doh.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 9 2013, 12:53 AM)
shoo shoo....My car fully stock whistling.gif

Lucky I didn't buy Inspila, if I got one and join you guys TT....I sure broke like nobody's business  doh.gif

P/S: WTF his other car is an R8  icon_question.gif
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Talk so much syoik sendiri ah??
the fair and famous journalist also no comment pun...
mod what la. Lancer GL chassis always lack of something that is not describeable one..
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TS, i chose Prius C for you due to the following reasons. (As i have first hand experience with my Prius)

**Pros**
-Reliable Engine (Taken for Prius mk1 1.5L, tuned & upgraded for current Prius C)
-No 1 fuel saver car, easily reach 22-25km/L (~4L/100km)
-7 Airbags
-CBU Japan
-Good CVT transmission (Much better than my mom's CRZ, sorry CRZ fans/owners. They don't jerk and they are very reliable, just look up e-CVT design @Google.
-Great discount now, who knows if the tax exemption will ever be renewed for next year?
-Saves alot of $$$, BN is struggling to keep RON95 @RM1.90
-Regenerative braking, you rarely need to change your brake pads, how cool is that? tongue.gif
-Travel locally more with your family without worrying about petrol price! tongue.gif

**Cons**
-Not very likeable interior, apparently your $$$ goes under the hood more
-Subjective rear exterior design (I don't like it too)
-Not trying to be biased here, but nothing comes up anymore

Prius HSD is about efficiency, though performance aren't really lacking with all that torque from the electric motor, but it isn't exactly cutting everyone else too.

Your $$$, your choice smile.gif
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How old is your Prius anyway? Service interval 5000km or 10,000km and how much per service? Your car is less than 3 years old and mileage not even reaching 60,000km or 100,000km or 200,000km. That is not long enough to jump to conclusion whether maintenance low or not. As what I got, hybrid lexus CT200H service interval 5000km at RM440/-. That cost more than diesel engine RM230 at 5000km interval.

Hybrid has 1 combustion engine, 1 electric motor plus 1 inverter and sophisticated electronics (more expensive than in normal cars) that are unknown to local technician/foreman. Anything wrong, send to SC and if faulty or damage, must replace and buy new. No fix. How much does electric motor cost? How much does inverter cost, how much does the ECM+Multiplexer cost? Standard Toyota ECM costs RM4-5k, hybrid 1 how much? The ECM in hybrid is bigger and more expensive. Battery spoilt, can still afford, how about others?

These are the reasons why they give much tax exemption to hybrid cars as they expect not many dare to buy them when news on their maintenance came up in another 2-3 years time.

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TS have u decided yet? since jazz price now drop to 75 k.
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TS have u decided yet? since jazz price now drop to 75 k.
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or how to modify to better suit a guy?
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Talk so much syoik sendiri ah??
the fair and famous journalist also no comment pun...
mod what la. Lancer GL chassis always lack of something that is not describeable one..
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Late reply, just got back from site-job. This is to reply your Inspira vs Forte thread. There are things that could not be described here and would require you to try on the track to find out. Inspira and Lancer both using Multi-link but both are different quality and material. They are not the same, 1 from MMC and 1 from P1 Lotus.

Example, there are 2 metal bars from 2 different manufacturers, sizes could be similar but weight, solidity, etc different still. Understand?

When Perdana introduced, the Galant is allowed to be sold but it didn't get to sell anymore since Perdana introduced. People just don't think about Galant that is using the same platform as Perdana. They buy Perdana if can't afford Accord, Camry, Telstar or 626. This was before MMC being forced to cease operation in 1995 due to too poor sales in cars segment. Lancer is still alive today because it has what your Inspira doesn't have. This is fact, your Inspira is nothing close to Lancer other than physically the same. Whatever detune you say, in US, there is no such thing on the emission thingy. Seems like P1 protection forced our local MMC Lancer to be fitted with GL tuning so that they don't get to challenge Inspira sales.

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 02:24 PM)
Late reply, just got back from site-job. This is to reply your Inspira vs Forte thread. There are things that could not be described here and would require you to try on the track to find out. Inspira and Lancer both using Multi-link but both are different quality and material. They are not the same, 1 from MMC and 1 from P1 Lotus.

Example, there are 2 metal bars from 2 different manufacturers, sizes could be similar but weight, solidity, etc different still. Understand?

When Perdana introduced, the Galant is allowed to be sold but it didn't get to sell anymore since Perdana introduced. People just don't think about Galant that is using the same platform as Perdana. They buy Perdana if can't afford Accord, Camry, Telstar or 626. This was before MMC being forced to cease operation in 1995 due to too poor sales in cars segment. Lancer is still alive today because it has what your Inspira doesn't have. This is fact, your Inspira is nothing close to Lancer other than physically the same. Whatever detune you say, in US, there is no such thing on the emission thingy. Seems like P1 protection forced our local MMC Lancer to be fitted with GL tuning so that they don't get to challenge Inspira sales.
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bro.. Can u stop crapping from ur own imagination ??
seriously.. Have u seen both lancer and inspira mapping? Do u know how to read that? Both binary matches even every single bit. And if u dont already know europe country roadtax is based on amount of carbon produce. And do u think a mass production car, the manufacturer will create multiple maps for multiple country? Its all about cost. And u telling its not relevent in emission control.. Please u have enuf pf crapping and imagination.. Further more have you physically own or seen the lower arm of an inspira? Yes I own one.. I did even look at the arm, its mitsubisho logo. Produce and manufacture by mitsubishi. Your perdana works 15 years back doesnt means it will be the same for inspira. U understand now? If you juz look and news and broucher dont make ur own assumption. And lancer GL (its call GLS) have the same chassis as Lancer GT. The difference is the suspension tuning only. Chassis is the same. Inspira differences is absorber and spring by proton. Get ur facts right before crapping like an expert. Its not even lotus. Yes is pure proton only. U go proton site. Its stated tune by proton not lotus. Antiroll bar is smaller in inspira compare GT. the tuning is diff. The amount of parts in the rear suspension is same. Mind you. Im not saying inspira Is same as GT. Just your fact and what you assume is all ur own opinion and stop acting like a pro. Even your idea about local parts.. You are just assuming base on ur idea of wira 1993. If you dont already know about manufacturig and how the reduce cost dont act like one. I guess till here u will know why ppl call you jaycraptor now.

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Mr jayCraptor, I have the full list of the parts bought from mitsubishi. Yes I have access to the data. Not thru any website or what so ever. First hand access. And if u want to know the differences. No doubt workmanship cbu wins hands down. No question ask. And regarding ur claim that rear suspension lesser parts is pure ur own imagination. Its spring and absorbers and diff size antiroll bar. Both car are tune for different purpose. One is more towards sporty feel the other is towards comfort. It has nothing to do with chassis mr jaycraptor. And your so call many local parts. The local parts is way lesser than u can believe. Why GT is so mcuch more expensive then? Its purely tax.. Manufacturer is not stupid, to localize parts it include cost.. The quantity is not much hence orderig from mitsu would be saving compare to localize. And the engine and gearbox come assembled from mitsubishi japan (ur choice to believe or not). I wont let u know how I access the data (i might be in trouble for that). But u are seriously crapping without any fact. You do not know how manufacturer works out. U dunno anything about cost saving (in this casr localize parts). Please we have enuf of ur so call expert opinion

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lol !! i having the same situation with ts ! im considering inspira or cerato !!
but i think i gonna go for inspira !! lazy to type the reason la !! i bought the executive version 77k with -55 ncd
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lol !! i having the same situation with ts ! im considering inspira or cerato !!
but i think i gonna go for inspira !! lazy to type the reason la !! i bought the executive version 77k with -55 ncd
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Bro.. Not promoting inspira. But this guy know nothig but act like an expert. Really beh tahan.. Bare in mind, many mitsu parts but still its proton workmanship.
Mr craptor.. Juz an example. The headlight is even more expensive than a lancer one. Bcoz it comes with motor. Its a diff version from mitsubishi. IT cost 1700 per headlight. Even the new mitsu lancer is using hyundai mobis build headlamp d. Cheaper than from mitsu itself
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Bro.. Not promoting inspira. But this guy know nothig but act like an expert. Really beh tahan.. Bare in mind, many mitsu parts but still its proton workmanship.
Mr craptor.. Juz an example. The headlight is even more expensive than a lancer one. Bcoz it comes with motor. Its a diff version from mitsubishi. IT cost 1700 per headlight. Even the new mitsu lancer is using hyundai mobis build headlamp d. Cheaper than from mitsu itself
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You are just trying to degrade the Lancer. If what you said is true, the Lancer will not be able to sell a single unit like Galant today. Don't try to create the false impression that the Inspira is exact clone of Lancer. The Inspira is a Lancer with P1 parts, ofcourse you can replace them anytime with Lancer parts. As for tuning, they are alll using the port and software, no problem using MMC diagnostic tools.

FYI, Wira also can share Lancer '94 parts, Iswara/Saga can share Lancer '81 parts, Perdana also can share Galant '94 parts, Perdana V6 can share with Eterna V6 parts. No problem because the mounting remain unchange.

If what you said true, wonder how come Inspira can't beat Lancer on racetrack where both are ori and unmodded? You want to prove which handling better, get 1 amateur to drive and take sharp turn at 100, 110, 120, 130, 140 and so on. Your Inspira will lose control before Lancer. If you are pro' you might be able use your drift skill to cover up but still if it's understeer, there's nothing you can do but wait for it to end before resume.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 03:41 PM)
You are just trying to degrade the Lancer. If what you said is true, the Lancer will not be able to sell a single unit like Galant today. Don't try to create the false impression that the Inspira is exact clone of Lancer. The Inspira is a Lancer with P1 parts, ofcourse you can replace them anytime with Lancer parts. As for tuning, they are alll using the port and software, no problem using MMC diagnostic tools.

FYI, Wira also can share Lancer '94 parts, Iswara/Saga can share Lancer '81 parts, Perdana also can share Galant '94 parts, Perdana V6 can share with Eterna V6 parts. No problem because the mounting remain unchange.

If what you said true, wonder how come Inspira can't beat Lancer on racetrack where both are ori and unmodded? You want to prove which handling better, get 1 amateur to drive and take sharp turn at 100, 110, 120, 130, 140 and so on. Your Inspira will lose control before Lancer. If you are pro' you might be able use your drift skill to cover up but still if it's understeer, there's nothing you can do but wait for it to end before resume.
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Regarding ur claim there is no emission control in us. Please google vehicle emission control in usa. Www.epa.gov.

Yes. there are ppl still buying because one.. There are people like you whom knows nothing but simply make assumption.
Two. Some ppl wanted better after sales services
Three. Some ppl doesnt wan workmanship like proton
Four. There are naiive ppl like u! I given the real fact with the real data but u dun wan believe. In fact u belip all thosr crap u makeup urself.

And if u cant read? I repeat again. One is tune for comfort the other one for sports feel. English or u wan malay?

Can u can ask . Lancer comes conner with me. But u might says its unfair becoz mine comes with traction control while lancer gt malaysia dont whistling.gif

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Im telling u the arm are from mitsu .. U are telling mr back I changed it.. whistling.gif
Inspira is a FF car.. U cant drift over the conners whistling.gif

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Sorry Mr jaycraptor.. you really crap too much i really beh tahan ..

let me teach u how to see ..

here is a link of proton inspira part list ..
Inspira Parts


If you look at the parts ... 1234A567 (these are from mitsu)
proton parts number are PW123456

Example

655 [All] Suspension Arm Front RH 4013A280
699 [All] Vehicle Tool Bag PW582025 5.77


okay . now i search the same thing online for u


Online Parts

Now you can go thru the parts ur self.

Next i know you going to tell me SOMEONE CREATED THE PART LIST .. whistling.gif

I dont do asumption ... i read base on fact!

and i repeat .. inspira still a proton build quality .. but crap from you that the parts are localize.. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 03:41 PM)
You are just trying to degrade the Lancer. If what you said is true, the Lancer will not be able to sell a single unit like Galant today. Don't try to create the false impression that the Inspira is exact clone of Lancer. The Inspira is a Lancer with P1 parts, ofcourse you can replace them anytime with Lancer parts. As for tuning, they are alll using the port and software, no problem using MMC diagnostic tools.

FYI, Wira also can share Lancer '94 parts, Iswara/Saga can share Lancer '81 parts, Perdana also can share Galant '94 parts, Perdana V6 can share with Eterna V6 parts. No problem because the mounting remain unchange.

If what you said true, wonder how come Inspira can't beat Lancer on racetrack where both are ori and unmodded? You want to prove which handling better, get 1 amateur to drive and take sharp turn at 100, 110, 120, 130, 140 and so on. Your Inspira will lose control before Lancer. If you are pro' you might be able use your drift skill to cover up but still if it's understeer, there's nothing you can do but wait for it to end before resume.
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Mr BullSh!t with long essay JayCraptor.
so for your theory, korean build sh!t car in the past, they still producing sh!t car?

as for laptime if u interested

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Late reply, just got back from site-job. This is to reply your Inspira vs Forte thread. There are things that could not be described here and would require you to try on the track to find out. Inspira and Lancer both using Multi-link but both are different quality and material. They are not the same, 1 from MMC and 1 from P1 Lotus.

Example, there are 2 metal bars from 2 different manufacturers, sizes could be similar but weight, solidity, etc different still. Understand?

When Perdana introduced, the Galant is allowed to be sold but it didn't get to sell anymore since Perdana introduced. People just don't think about Galant that is using the same platform as Perdana. They buy Perdana if can't afford Accord, Camry, Telstar or 626. This was before MMC being forced to cease operation in 1995 due to too poor sales in cars segment. Lancer is still alive today because it has what your Inspira doesn't have. This is fact, your Inspira is nothing close to Lancer other than physically the same. Whatever detune you say, in US, there is no such thing on the emission thingy. Seems like P1 protection forced our local MMC Lancer to be fitted with GL tuning so that they don't get to challenge Inspira sales.
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No wonder it is raining.....
Hahahahahahaha both arms are arms but they are different material?

Same design but weight different. Yes yes just like twins also got a bit difference? That's what u mean?

Next sentence u mentioned, 1 from MMC 1 from P1 lotus?
Now I am really interested. Can you somehow-anyhow with a kind-hearted share some "underground" source?
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Need further proof?
Got this from my free service
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They dont even bother to localize the air filter.. whistling.gif
This bloody thing they sell 149.

And you was saying localize lower arm? I change that over time!
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Mr BullSh!t with long essay JayCraptor.
so for your theory, korean build sh!t car in the past, they still producing sh!t car?

as for laptime if u interested

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nzh0920,
You took modified Inspira laptime vs NA Lancer? Look at your list, 1.6 Forte beats 2.0 Forte. What else, those are nothing more than unsorted category list. Is that the best lap time in the first place?

People talking about NA unmodified car vs category. You go and include turbocharged or tuned up variant together. Take NA category list before you come here and talk crap.

Koreans, they have moved further with dual VVT. You still stuck with single VVT?

K3nnYkl82,
Just the arm? How bout the rest then? People look into overall. FYI, the old Saga '06 I had, can still find hidden MMC logo on part of the car body.

What is the big deal? Inspira is not Lancer, enough brag and get back to real life.
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i also cant tahan ur crap.

Headlamps

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nzh0920,
You took modified Inspira laptime vs NA Lancer? Look at your list, 1.6 Forte beats 2.0 Forte. What else, those are nothing more than unsorted category list. Is that the best lap time in the first place?

People talking about NA unmodified car vs category. You go and include turbocharged or tuned up variant together. Take NA category list before you come here and talk crap.

Koreans, they have moved further with dual VVT. You still stuck with single VVT?

K3nnYkl82,
Just the arm? How bout the rest then? People look into overall. FYI, the old Saga '06 I had, can still find hidden MMC logo on part of the car body.

What is the big deal? Inspira is not Lancer, enough brag and get back to real life.
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Bugger the whole list is there ... YOU ARE THE ONE TALKING ABOUT THE ARM PREVIOUSLY..
Go search how many PW parts there yourself ...
i didnt says 100% mitsu parts .. but mechanical wise almost .. because manufacture cost to manufacure a metal part isnt cheap if u do not know already.

We own inspira but we dont crap like you.

Again i repeat .. lots of mitsu parts..
refer to the list .. 1234A567 is mitsu parts .. PW123456 is proton parts .

and i repeat again workmanship is not as good as mitsu

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Again .. mr jaycraptor .. we talk base on fact .. not like u .. whenever ppl prove u wrong .u go twist ..
and i already said .. inspira is tune more to comfort while lancer is towards sporty .. its nothing to do with the chassis like what you crap.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 03:41 PM)
You are just trying to degrade the Lancer. If what you said is true, the Lancer will not be able to sell a single unit like Galant today. Don't try to create the false impression that the Inspira is exact clone of Lancer. The Inspira is a Lancer with P1 parts, ofcourse you can replace them anytime with Lancer parts. As for tuning, they are alll using the port and software, no problem using MMC diagnostic tools.

FYI, Wira also can share Lancer '94 parts, Iswara/Saga can share Lancer '81 parts, Perdana also can share Galant '94 parts, Perdana V6 can share with Eterna V6 parts. No problem because the mounting remain unchange.

If what you said true, wonder how come Inspira can't beat Lancer on racetrack where both are ori and unmodded? You want to prove which handling better, get 1 amateur to drive and take sharp turn at 100, 110, 120, 130, 140 and so on. Your Inspira will lose control before Lancer. If you are pro' you might be able use your drift skill to cover up but still if it's understeer, there's nothing you can do but wait for it to end before resume.
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abang, saya beri abang pinjam saya punya lancer mahu? tapi driver inspira saya mahu jadi, boleh? abang ada inspira tak mahu kasi saya pinjam? atau abang ada lancer tak?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:12 PM)
nzh0920,
You took modified Inspira laptime vs NA Lancer? Look at your list, 1.6 Forte beats 2.0 Forte. What else, those are nothing more than unsorted category list. Is that the best lap time in the first place?

People talking about NA unmodified car vs category. You go and include turbocharged or tuned up variant together. Take NA category list before you come here and talk crap.

Koreans, they have moved further with dual VVT. You still stuck with single VVT?

K3nnYkl82,
Just the arm? How bout the rest then? People look into overall. FYI, the old Saga '06 I had, can still find hidden MMC logo on part of the car body.

What is the big deal? Inspira is not Lancer, enough brag and get back to real life.
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man , since u so like to compare brochure, please go and read the website before u make such FUNNY and STUPID comment and let people laugh at u notworthy.gif notworthy.gif shakehead.gif
u think there is no rules and regulation ? u know nothing about track
the list all NA lancer/inspira, u got turbo in your engine bay, u are in different category. STUPID! shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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nzh0920,
You took modified Inspira laptime vs NA Lancer? Look at your list, 1.6 Forte beats 2.0 Forte. What else, those are nothing more than unsorted category list. Is that the best lap time in the first place?

People talking about NA unmodified car vs category. You go and include turbocharged or tuned up variant together. Take NA category list before you come here and talk crap.

Koreans, they have moved further with dual VVT. You still stuck with single VVT?

K3nnYkl82,
Just the arm? How bout the rest then? People look into overall. FYI, the old Saga '06 I had, can still find hidden MMC logo on part of the car body.

What is the big deal? Inspira is not Lancer, enough brag and get back to real life.
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please show me the light, master of crap!

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He dun even know 4B10 n 11, 12 comes with dual VVTI. propably dunno what it is
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nzh0920,
You took modified Inspira laptime vs NA Lancer? Look at your list, 1.6 Forte beats 2.0 Forte. What else, those are nothing more than unsorted category list. Is that the best lap time in the first place?

People talking about NA unmodified car vs category. You go and include turbocharged or tuned up variant together. Take NA category list before you come here and talk crap.

Koreans, they have moved further with dual VVT. You still stuck with single VVT?

K3nnYkl82,
Just the arm? How bout the rest then? People look into overall. FYI, the old Saga '06 I had, can still find hidden MMC logo on part of the car body.

What is the big deal? Inspira is not Lancer, enough brag and get back to real life.
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He dun even know 4B10 n 11, 12 comes with dual VVTI. propably dunno what it is
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:12 PM)
nzh0920,
You took modified Inspira laptime vs NA Lancer? Look at your list, 1.6 Forte beats 2.0 Forte. What else, those are nothing more than unsorted category list. Is that the best lap time in the first place?

People talking about NA unmodified car vs category. You go and include turbocharged or tuned up variant together. Take NA category list before you come here and talk crap.

Koreans, they have moved further with dual VVT. You still stuck with single VVT?

K3nnYkl82,
Just the arm? How bout the rest then? People look into overall. FYI, the old Saga '06 I had, can still find hidden MMC logo on part of the car body.

What is the big deal? Inspira is not Lancer, enough brag and get back to real life.
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Wah now is like how?
Loser "fatt LAN Zha"?

LOL!!!! U damn power la really. Next time u can go another forum introduce yourself.

I am not only famous in AW, but also lowyat fnf!!! Hahahahahaa
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Bugger the whole list is there ... YOU ARE THE ONE TALKING ABOUT THE ARM PREVIOUSLY..
Go search how many PW parts there yourself ...
i didnt says 100% mitsu parts .. but mechanical wise almost .. because manufacture cost to manufacure a metal part isnt cheap if u do not know already.

We own inspira but we dont crap like you.

Again i repeat .. lots of mitsu parts..
refer to the list .. 1234A567 is mitsu parts .. PW123456 is proton parts .

and i repeat again workmanship is not as good as mitsu

user posted image

Again .. mr jaycraptor .. we talk base on fact .. not like u .. whenever ppl prove u wrong .u go twist ..
and i already said .. inspira is tune more to comfort while lancer is towards sporty .. its nothing to do with the chassis like what you crap.
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Nice comparison. Wonder why Lancer can still sell if your Inspira is that close to Lancer technically. Just because of build workmanship, people willing to pay >RM20k extra to get Lancer 2.0EX/GT rather than lower grade Inspira 2.0 at RM93k? Like you for example, you can spend less than RM10k to get Lancer bumpers, badges, steering wheels, etc already.

Tell this to Lancer owners whether they agree with you. Verdict about Inspira, nothing more than a lower quality Lancer wannabe. You can only be called LANCAR but not Lancer. This is the only reason why Lancer still survive today rather than wrap up like what happened back then. Like Myvi owners trying to think themselves as driving Toyota. Inspira owners are like dreaming of driving Japanese C-segment.

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:32 PM)
Nice comparison. Wonder why Lancer can still sell if your Inspira is that close to Lancer technically. Just because of build workmanship, people willing to pay >RM20k extra to get Lancer 2.0EX/GT rather than lower grade Inspira 2.0 at RM93k? Like you for example, you can spend less than RM10k to get Lancer bumpers, badges, steering wheels, etc already.

Tell this to Lancer owners whether they agree with you.
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Eh
Juz now u crap differently one..
U says many localize part
Diff build quaility of the parts
Now turn your dirrextion lagi ah?

Mana ur localize part?
Mana ur lancer gl chassis claim?
Mana ur less parts in suspension systrm?

Lancer gt 125k
Inspira 86k 2.0E
Thats almost 40k
Yes I admit we cheapskate but the 40k doesnt worth thst to me..
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Jaycraptor previous very proud tell ppl localize part a lot. Base on his experience with wira 1.6z
Then he claim suspension less some part that very hard to describe
Further claim no emission control crap in USA
Then claim build parts are of diff quality and material

Now agree with me diff is towards workmanship or after sales service!
Further more says I plan to tipu ppl with so call mitsu parts.... Sorry im not a fair journalist
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Sorry, I do not read the whole thread.

Many parts of Inspira are shared with Lancer, even though different in part number.
Most of the parts, Proton simply mark up the price and end up much more expensive than Mitsubishi parts.

From what I know, the headlamp of Inspira are different than Lancer, hence the price different.

Price not same doesn't mean they are not the same.
For suspension parts, afaik only absorbers are made locally (also why it so affordable). Everything else is the same as Lancer, also much more expensive than Lancer (marked up price).
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most of the parts still mitsu la !!! go see other ppl inspira and compare !!
not tambah api here !! personally i choose inspira over cerato bcoz

1 price
2 how ever u make the torsion beam still independent still better !! if u know wat i mean !! but diff ppl diff thinking lar !!
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:32 PM)
Nice comparison. Wonder why Lancer can still sell if your Inspira is that close to Lancer technically. Just because of build workmanship, people willing to pay >RM20k extra to get Lancer 2.0EX/GT rather than lower grade Inspira 2.0 at RM93k? Like you for example, you can spend less than RM10k to get Lancer bumpers, badges, steering wheels, etc already.

Tell this to Lancer owners whether they agree with you. Verdict about Inspira, nothing more than a lower quality Lancer wannabe. You can only be called LANCAR but not Lancer. This is the only reason why Lancer still survive today rather than wrap up like what happened back then. Like Myvi owners trying to think themselves as driving Toyota. Inspira owners are like dreaming of driving Japanese C-segment.
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lol changed direction crap again.
im sorry , my car got many thing that even local spec lancer dont hv it, why i wanna admire them whistling.gif whistling.gif

but still your forte 1.6 4 spd AT is still the best among all other cars whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:32 PM)
Nice comparison. Wonder why Lancer can still sell if your Inspira is that close to Lancer technically. Just because of build workmanship, people willing to pay >RM20k extra to get Lancer 2.0EX/GT rather than lower grade Inspira 2.0 at RM93k? Like you for example, you can spend less than RM10k to get Lancer bumpers, badges, steering wheels, etc already.

Tell this to Lancer owners whether they agree with you. Verdict about Inspira, nothing more than a lower quality Lancer wannabe. You can only be called LANCAR but not Lancer. This is the only reason why Lancer still survive today rather than wrap up like what happened back then. Like Myvi owners trying to think themselves as driving Toyota. Inspira owners are like dreaming of driving Japanese C-segment.
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U said u know a lot bout cars.....
But u have no idea what is rebadged?

U can live happily ever after la. Tell u what also no use.
Same thing less weight also u can tell d. Respect.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jul 13 2013, 04:42 PM)
Sorry, I do not read the whole thread.

Many parts of Inspira are shared with Lancer, even though different in part number.
Most of the parts, Proton simply mark up the price and end up much more expensive than Mitsubishi parts.

From what I know, the headlamp of Inspira are different than Lancer, hence the price different.

Price not same doesn't mean they are not the same.
For suspension parts, afaik only absorbers are made locally (also why it so affordable). Everything else is the same as Lancer, also much more expensive than Lancer (marked up price).
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U got the points, but not our "journalist"

Same as lancer is true, design only.
He said weight different ok!

Have a good weekend hahahaha
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jul 13 2013, 04:42 PM)
Sorry, I do not read the whole thread.

Many parts of Inspira are shared with Lancer, even though different in part number.
Most of the parts, Proton simply mark up the price and end up much more expensive than Mitsubishi parts.

From what I know, the headlamp of Inspira are different than Lancer, hence the price different.

Price not same doesn't mean they are not the same.
For suspension parts, afaik only absorbers are made locally (also why it so affordable). Everything else is the same as Lancer, also much more expensive than Lancer (marked up price).
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most of the parts, more or less the same, some parts proton side cheaper, some parts mitsu side cheaper
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Proton parts more expensive bcoz they buy from mitsu have to rebadge the package.. The sticker no need money ah? Handle the repackaging also require admin fees.. The more smart way juz buy from mitsu
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Still wanted to spread lies here? Will check with those parts people and revert back to you. If any of your claim are false and proven you are with P1 marketing team spreading false lies to boost sales by saying 'Inspira techwise is same as Lancer', I will shoot you back kaw kaw. You don't mess with consumers. This will take time in order to get to them.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:54 PM)
Still wanted to spread lies here? Will check with those parts people and revert back to you. If any of your claim are false and proven you are with P1 marketing team spreading false lies to boost sales by saying 'Inspira techwise is same as Lancer', I will shoot you back kaw kaw. You don't mess with consumers. This will take time in order to get to them.
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No problem.. Juz make sure u come back!
and I like to shoot ppl who assume yet wanna convinse ppl his believe.. Mr journalist
Remember to check with proper part ppl.. Not ur cousin or neighbour or whom who work in proton (as a garbage collector. Or a toilet cleaner)

If im a proton sales man I wont show u the difference between proton inspira n lancer d.. Use ur brain la

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:54 PM)
Still wanted to spread lies here? Will check with those parts people and revert back to you. If any of your claim are false and proven you are with P1 marketing team spreading false lies to boost sales by saying 'Inspira techwise is same as Lancer', I will shoot you back kaw kaw. You don't mess with consumers. This will take time in order to get to them.
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please show me where u got the proof that inspira is lancer GL chasis first? whistling.gif whistling.gif
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No problem.. Juz make sure u come back!
and I like to shoot ppl who assume yet wanna convinse ppl his believe.. Mr journalist
Remember to check with proper part ppl.. Not ur cousin or neighbour or whom who work in proton (as a garbage collector. Or a toilet cleaner)

If im a proton sales man I wont show u the difference between proton inspira n lancer d.. Use ur brain la
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Why not if the difference is not that serious? As long as the comparison is feasible towards the products and able to convince buyers, marketing staff allowed to post the details. Since the engine and gearbox are directly from Japan, can void the 2. Others, whether they are made in Japan, it is question mark.

nzh0920,
The kerb weight is imminent evidence of Lancer GL rather than GT. Still want to compare? It's a soft suspension. What else.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 05:14 PM)
Why not if the difference is not that serious? As long as the comparison is feasible towards the products and able to convince buyers, marketing staff allowed to post the details. Since the engine and gearbox are directly from Japan, can void the 2. Others, whether they are made in Japan, it is question mark.

nzh0920,
The kerb weight is imminent evidence of Lancer GL rather than GT. Still want to compare? It's a soft suspension. What else.
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif show me the proof that u found to show that GLS and GT got diff type of chasis? whistling.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 05:14 PM)
Why not if the difference is not that serious? As long as the comparison is feasible towards the products and able to convince buyers, marketing staff allowed to post the details. Since the engine and gearbox are directly from Japan, can void the 2. Others, whether they are made in Japan, it is question mark.

nzh0920,
The kerb weight is imminent evidence of Lancer GL rather than GT. Still want to compare? It's a soft suspension. What else.
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See .. I show u the whole list yet u still dun wan believe! And claim I work with proton! GG. You can pm me. I can send you my name card. I work in IT company.

You know whats your problem? You created your own illusion. When ppl give u fact, you just dont want to accept. Coz you think you know cars more than any other ppl.

Kerb weight diff doesnt means chassis diff. Many other parts contribute to kerb weight
Suspension setup doesnt means chassis diff! You dont understand english isit?
Forte EX and forte SX. Kerb weight diff. Different chassis??
Duhhh
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See .. I show u the whole list yet u still dun wan believe! And claim I work with proton! GG. You can pm me. I can send you my name card. I work in IT company.

You know whats your problem? You created your own illusion. When ppl give u fact, you just dont want to accept. Coz you think you know cars more than any other ppl.

Kerb weight diff doesnt means chassis diff. Many other parts contribute to kerb weight
Suspension setup doesnt means chassis diff! You dont understand english isit?
Forte EX and forte SX. Kerb weight diff. Different chassis??
Duhhh
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I'm not sure others but I'm not just consumers.

I'm operate a Insurance Claim Collision Repair workshop in Ipoh.
Sometimes I do purchase Lancer parts to be installed on Inspira for my customers (they are the same, except the packaging) at a lower price than Proton counterparts.

Review to some comparisons below

Lancer GT
Door Front LH 5700A557 RM2,671.50
Suspension Arm Front LH 4013A009 RM561.89

Inspira
Door Front LH 5700A557 RM2,138.60
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jul 13 2013, 05:27 PM)
I'm not sure others but I'm not just consumers.

I'm operate a Insurance Claim Collision Repair workshop in Ipoh.
Sometimes I do purchase Lancer parts to be installed on Inspira for my customers (they are the same, except the packaging) at a lower price than Proton counterparts.

Review to some comparisons below

Lancer GT
Door Front LH 5700A557 RM2,671.50
Suspension Arm Front LH 4013A009 RM561.89

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Door Front LH 5700A557 RM2,138.60
Suspension Arm Front LH 4013A279 RM809.53
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He @ jaycraptor will so says u are working for proton as well.
Apparently there are many proton salesman here telling lies

I claim my aircon compressor due to bearing got sound.




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He @ jaycraptor will so says u are working for proton as well.
Apparently there are many proton salesman here telling lies

I claim my aircon compressor due to bearing got sound.
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He might be right, coz my family operate a Proton Edar 4S in Ipoh. whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jul 13 2013, 06:01 PM)
He might be right, coz my family operate a Proton Edar 4S in Ipoh.  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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He can create facts base on his imagination..
We show fact with parts and figures he says we lies..
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:32 PM)
Nice comparison. Wonder why Lancer can still sell if your Inspira is that close to Lancer technically. Just because of build workmanship, people willing to pay >RM20k extra to get Lancer 2.0EX/GT rather than lower grade Inspira 2.0 at RM93k? Like you for example, you can spend less than RM10k to get Lancer bumpers, badges, steering wheels, etc already.

Tell this to Lancer owners whether they agree with you. Verdict about Inspira, nothing more than a lower quality Lancer wannabe. You can only be called LANCAR but not Lancer. This is the only reason why Lancer still survive today rather than wrap up like what happened back then. Like Myvi owners trying to think themselves as driving Toyota. Inspira owners are like dreaming of driving Japanese C-segment.
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wonder why??
Please look into the mirror.. then u will get the answer.. whistling.gif whistling.gif
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Now where is the noob Craptor???
acting pro again ah???
go read more pls

i think ur Kia Forte 1.6 4 Speeder must be veli veli fast on papers


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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:54 PM)
Still wanted to spread lies here? Will check with those parts people and revert back to you. If any of your claim are false and proven you are with P1 marketing team spreading false lies to boost sales by saying 'Inspira techwise is same as Lancer', I will shoot you back kaw kaw. You don't mess with consumers. This will take time in order to get to them.
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Pop corn mode...
I think is time I trade in my car and get forte...
If I get forte 1.6 and it cannot perform like u mention... I gonna be sad...
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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Jul 14 2013, 03:16 AM)
Pop corn mode...
I think is time I trade in my car and get forte...
If I get forte 1.6 and it cannot perform like u mention... I gonna be sad...
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Seriously what kind of fair journalist is he?
Claim he knows car well..

He does not own d car

He ASSUME is a diff chassis due to lesser kerb weight
He ASSUME many parts are localize
He ASSUME local parts use diff material and diff quality
He ASSUME USA no such thing call emission control
He ASSUME rear suspension have lesser parts
He ASSUME its lotus handling
He ASSUME the part list are fake
He ASSUME there are many proton salesman here

He knows nothing about car, get his information from the web, make his own assumption, dun accept anything when ppl tell him.

No wonder he is famous in AW now he is famous in LYN.
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 14 2013, 09:34 AM)
Seriously what kind of fair journalist is he?
Claim he knows car well..

He does not own d car

He ASSUME is a diff chassis due to lesser kerb weight
He ASSUME many parts are localize
He ASSUME local parts use diff material and diff quality
He ASSUME USA no such thing call emission control
He ASSUME rear suspension have lesser parts
He ASSUME its lotus handling
He ASSUME the part list are fake
He ASSUME there are many proton salesman here

He knows nothing about car, get his information from the web, make his own assumption, dun accept anything when ppl tell him.

No wonder he is famous in AW now he is famous in LYN.
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Honda City E and City S got different curb weight... Meaning the chassis also different ah ? rclxub.gif I wonder Vios TRD and Vios G also different curb weight?
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QUOTE(ironthomas @ Jul 14 2013, 12:14 PM)
Honda City E and City S got different curb weight... Meaning the chassis also different ah ?  rclxub.gif  I wonder Vios TRD and Vios G also different curb weight?
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 14 2013, 01:15 PM)
you still dont get it??
leser kerb weight means lesser part laugh.gif
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Seriously memalukan bangsa dan negara
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 14 2013, 02:38 PM)
Seriously memalukan bangsa dan negara
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apa lu cakap i got paper to suppork me behind vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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Not u la.. U know I know who lo whistling.gif
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 14 2013, 02:38 PM)
Seriously memalukan bangsa dan negara
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U lancer wannabe with campro engine difference chassis with lancer because kerb weight is lesser because suspension have lesser parts because proton brochures say la. doh.gif U proton salesman. Still wanna spread lies? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(kychong @ Jul 14 2013, 03:00 PM)
U lancer wannabe with campro engine difference chassis with lancer because kerb weight is lesser because suspension have lesser parts because proton brochures say la.  doh.gif  U proton salesman. Still wanna spread lies?  whistling.gif
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Not u la.. U know I know who lo whistling.gif
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btw i mean paper that said Lancer GL and Inspira has diff kerb weight brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 14 2013, 03:11 PM)
btw i mean paper that said Lancer GL and Inspira has diff kerb weight brows.gif  brows.gif
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City E and S also diff chassis.. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 13 2013, 05:32 PM)
He @ jaycraptor will so says u are working for proton as well.
Apparently there are many proton salesman here telling lies

I claim my aircon compressor due to bearing got sound.
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Wow, already 4 replies so far. I am glad that at least allenultra stayed professional and neutral, good job.

The rest replied with much hatred that they go personal. Why can't reply properly and fill in the blanks with hatred? You sellman or have business related to P1?

I managed to check this info from the same person who told the differences between Inspira & Lancer GT 2 years ago. Here's his reply:

When MMC & P1 signed the deal, it stated clearly, any technical parts that will lead to breakdown, engine blown, failed handling like Sylphy/Almera, or any issue that could damage MMC reputation.

The Inspira is based on the Lancer GL that can't sell well that was phased out earlier. In the assembly plant, the engine, gearbox, the suspension, electronic components/modules/sensors, interior dashboard, door panels brought in imported. The machine here does the stamping with the metal sheets imported. The rest of the parts that won't cause breakdown are done locally. Some are sub to local companies to produce the parts. Due to improper storage (space vacuum), the interior of Inspira not as fragrant as brand new Conti/Japanese/Korean cars inside. Smells like China made cars.

The P1 tuned suspension is only myth to show that they do produce something and the rear suspension is exact match of Lancer GL and not from Lancer GT.

Kerb weight:
Lancer 2.0GT 1385kg
Lancer 2.0GL 1320kg (reduced ingredient variant for 3rd nation)
Lancer 2.0GL 1335kg
Inspira 2.0 Premium 1335kg

Difference between Lancer GL & GT lies in the large METAL BAR that connects to both rear wheels arms. Relook into your replies earlier, don't know why you keep showing me the arm. Show the arm for what when people talking about the whole Multilink rear suspension? Have to use the word Metal Bar or Metal Beam or else you would refer elsewhere. Who knows, you might show me the tie rod in front in reply. That 50kg difference came from this metal bar alone. Understand? Mind you the bodykit, side skirt, & spoiler aren't heavy that even small kid could easily carry it with 1 hand. People use adhesive 2 sided tape specially for PU & fibreglass material for skirting nowadays. No more cement.

So stop saying your Inspira is Lancer GT. It's based on Lancer GL and that is why MMC willing to let P1 rebadge but under strict restriction and monitoring. This explains why Lancer GT sales still survive today. Many who can't afford new would buy used Lancer GT rather than buy that Inspira. Hassle free guaranteed thumbup.gif

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Wow, already 4 replies so far. I am glad that at least allenultra stayed professional and neutral, good job.

The rest replied with much hatred that they go personal. Why can't reply properly and fill in the blanks with hatred? You sellman or have business related to P1?

I managed to check this info from the same person who told the differences between Inspira & Lancer GT 2 years ago. Here's his reply:

When MMC & P1 signed the deal, it stated clearly, any technical parts that will lead to breakdown, engine blown, failed handling like Sylphy/Almera, or any issue that could damage MMC reputation.

The Inspira is based on the Lancer GL that can't sell well that was phased out earlier. In the assembly plant, the engine, gearbox, the suspension, electronic components/modules/sensors, interior dashboard, door panels brought in imported. The machine here does the stamping with the metal sheets imported. The rest of the parts that won't cause breakdown are done locally. Some are sub to local companies to produce the parts. Due to improper storage (space vacuum), the interior of Inspira not as fragrant as brand new Conti/Japanese/Korean cars inside. Smells like China made cars.

The P1 tuned suspension is only myth to show that they do produce something and the rear suspension is exact match of Lancer GL and not from Lancer GT.

Kerb weight:
Lancer 2.0GT 1385kg
Lancer 2.0GL 1320kg (reduced ingredient variant for 3rd nation)
Lancer 2.0GL 1335kg
Inspira 2.0 Premium 1335kg

Difference between Lancer GL & GT lies in the large METAL BAR that connects to both rear wheels arms. Relook into your replies earlier, don't know why you keep showing me the arm. Show the arm for what when people talking about the whole Multilink rear suspension? Have to use the word Metal Bar or Metal Beam or else you would refer elsewhere. Who knows, you might show me the tie rod in front in reply. That 50kg difference came from this metal bar alone. Understand? Mind you the bodykit, side skirt, & spoiler aren't heavy that even small kid could easily carry it with 1 hand. People use adhesive 2 sided tape specially for PU & fibreglass material for skirting nowadays. No more cement.

So stop saying your Inspira is Lancer GT. It's the Lancer GL and that is why MMC willing to let P1 rebadge but under strict restriction and monitoring. This explains why Lancer GT sales still survive today. Many who can't afford new would buy used Lancer GT rather than buy that Inspira. Hassle free guaranteed thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Jul 14 2013, 03:16 AM)
Pop corn mode...
I think is time I trade in my car and get forte...
If I get forte 1.6 and it cannot perform like u mention... I gonna be sad...
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Forte is meant for family use with handling for safety in evading dangerous road hazard and in time of emergency. The same goes to Lancer GL. The heavier and stiffer Lancer GT is meant for sports driving feel where you can take it to Sepang racetrack for little racing.
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Hmm....my friend just trade in his forte after driving it less than a year. I ask him why, he just reply me one word, "rubbish". Why ah?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 14 2013, 05:37 PM)
Wow, already 4 replies so far. I am glad that at least allenultra stayed professional and neutral, good job.

The rest replied with much hatred that they go personal. Why can't reply properly and fill in the blanks with hatred? You sellman or have business related to P1?

I managed to check this info from the same person who told the differences between Inspira & Lancer GT 2 years ago. Here's his reply:

When MMC & P1 signed the deal, it stated clearly, any technical parts that will lead to breakdown, engine blown, failed handling like Sylphy/Almera, or any issue that could damage MMC reputation.

The Inspira is based on the Lancer GL that can't sell well that was phased out earlier. In the assembly plant, the engine, gearbox, the suspension, electronic components/modules/sensors, interior dashboard, door panels brought in imported. The machine here does the stamping with the metal sheets imported. The rest of the parts that won't cause breakdown are done locally. Some are sub to local companies to produce the parts. Due to improper storage (space vacuum), the interior of Inspira not as fragrant as brand new Conti/Japanese/Korean cars inside. Smells like China made cars.

The P1 tuned suspension is only myth to show that they do produce something and the rear suspension is exact match of Lancer GL and not from Lancer GT.

Kerb weight:
Lancer 2.0GT 1385kg
Lancer 2.0GL 1320kg (reduced ingredient variant for 3rd nation)
Lancer 2.0GL 1335kg
Inspira 2.0 Premium 1335kg

Difference between Lancer GL & GT lies in the large METAL BAR that connects to both rear wheels arms. Relook into your replies earlier, don't know why you keep showing me the arm. Show the arm for what when people talking about the whole Multilink rear suspension? Have to use the word Metal Bar or Metal Beam or else you would refer elsewhere. Who knows, you might show me the tie rod in front in reply. That 50kg difference came from this metal bar alone. Understand? Mind you the bodykit, side skirt, & spoiler aren't heavy that even small kid could easily carry it with 1 hand. People use adhesive 2 sided tape specially for PU & fibreglass material for skirting nowadays. No more cement.

So stop saying your Inspira is Lancer GT. It's based on Lancer GL and that is why MMC willing to let P1 rebadge but under strict restriction and monitoring. This explains why Lancer GT sales still survive today. Many who can't afford new would buy used Lancer GT rather than buy that Inspira. Hassle free guaranteed thumbup.gif
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U really one word to describe.. BoDoH.. Seriously..
Please go dig back what I said. I said absorbers and anti roll bar made by proton.
Mr Journalist.. Muli link suspension from left to right connected is called anti roll bar!! If u dont understand english.
Ops sorry.. Forte use torsion beam guess u never know what the fark is an antiroll bar. YOU YOUSELF SAYS THE METAL WHICH CONNECT THE TWO REAR ARMS! Mr genious! Again I repeat its call ANTI ROLL BAR!! And dig back the previous post I said! LANCER GT IS USING 20mm , LANCER GLS NON! Proton inspira 16mm (local made).. And MR GENIOUS! Go find me an anti roll bar that weights 50KG!

u keep making urself look like an idiot. So did u ask any diff in terms of engine gearbox of lancer gl and gt? And who the hell is ur source?

let me teach u something else. The thing that holds the arm together is call sub frame. The sub frame hold the left and right arm in place. The thing that hold the left and right arm together is call anti roll bar! And already I mention earlier made by proton. And again I said its a different tuning. Ur english fail I guess.

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In case u forget. U are the one whom says something missing in inspira rear suspension. Then u claim the material different. U are the one whom claim the arm are localy produce. In fact u claim many local parts now u says many import parts!! What else u previously claim not claim now?
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Jayraptor is crapping here ya. Well crap, well crap.
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Jayraptor is crapping here ya. Well crap, well crap.
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Wahlau this guy.. Show him fact he can twist back .. Day one I reply tellig him absorbers by proton anti roll bar diff.. And the idiot claim anti roll bar weights 50kg!! He first claim many local parts n now claim differently... Damn lazy to logic with him...
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 14 2013, 05:37 PM)
Wow, already 4 replies so far. I am glad that at least allenultra stayed professional and neutral, good job.

The rest replied with much hatred that they go personal. Why can't reply properly and fill in the blanks with hatred? You sellman or have business related to P1?

I managed to check this info from the same person who told the differences between Inspira & Lancer GT 2 years ago. Here's his reply:

When MMC & P1 signed the deal, it stated clearly, any technical parts that will lead to breakdown, engine blown, failed handling like Sylphy/Almera, or any issue that could damage MMC reputation.

The Inspira is based on the Lancer GL that can't sell well that was phased out earlier. In the assembly plant, the engine, gearbox, the suspension, electronic components/modules/sensors, interior dashboard, door panels brought in imported. The machine here does the stamping with the metal sheets imported. The rest of the parts that won't cause breakdown are done locally. Some are sub to local companies to produce the parts. Due to improper storage (space vacuum), the interior of Inspira not as fragrant as brand new Conti/Japanese/Korean cars inside. Smells like China made cars.

The P1 tuned suspension is only myth to show that they do produce something and the rear suspension is exact match of Lancer GL and not from Lancer GT.

Kerb weight:
Lancer 2.0GT 1385kg
Lancer 2.0GL 1320kg (reduced ingredient variant for 3rd nation)
Lancer 2.0GL 1335kg
Inspira 2.0 Premium 1335kg

Difference between Lancer GL & GT lies in the large METAL BAR that connects to both rear wheels arms. Relook into your replies earlier, don't know why you keep showing me the arm. Show the arm for what when people talking about the whole Multilink rear suspension? Have to use the word Metal Bar or Metal Beam or else you would refer elsewhere. Who knows, you might show me the tie rod in front in reply. That 50kg difference came from this metal bar alone. Understand? Mind you the bodykit, side skirt, & spoiler aren't heavy that even small kid could easily carry it with 1 hand. People use adhesive 2 sided tape specially for PU & fibreglass material for skirting nowadays. No more cement.

So stop saying your Inspira is Lancer GT. It's based on Lancer GL and that is why MMC willing to let P1 rebadge but under strict restriction and monitoring. This explains why Lancer GT sales still survive today. Many who can't afford new would buy used Lancer GT rather than buy that Inspira. Hassle free guaranteed thumbup.gif
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Lol and lol!!!!!

First time see ppl already go into the wrong way, still can continue making story.

Mr J, are you really sure with whT you are talking about?
A journalist should able to admit the mistake and re-correct it. Wait, are you one?

U steady la!
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 14 2013, 06:44 PM)
Wahlau this guy.. Show him fact  he can twist back .. Day one I reply tellig him absorbers by proton anti roll bar diff.. And the idiot claim anti roll bar weights 50kg!! He first claim many local parts n now claim differently... Damn lazy to logic with him...
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I actually read all the post. Clearly he knows nothing but still wanted to talk without providing any sources to back up his argument. Lol...retard.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 14 2013, 05:44 PM)
Forte is meant for family use with handling for safety in evading dangerous road hazard and in time of emergency. The same goes to Lancer GL. The heavier and stiffer Lancer GT is meant for sports driving feel where you can take it to Sepang racetrack for little racing.
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Forte got 2 version.... Which one better?
1.6 or the 2.0?


Btw u mitsu salesman izzit?

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I actually read all the post. Clearly he knows nothing but still wanted to talk without providing any sources to back up his argument. Lol...retard.
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He did provide source in his argument!! But not related... Like old wira saga perdana....

Throwback is the trend now.
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He claim we proton sales man lies about proton part
Npw he claim many imported part
Claim anti roll bar 50kg

And now claim inspira absorber is lancer gl absorber. Maybe we shd show him our ori spring and absorber. Coz I fucuking changed mine to custom d..
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My 60 years old mechanic friend under-the-cherry-tree also knows the METAL BEAM or METAL BAR is called andy-loh-bah!!! I salute you!!!!
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U really one word to describe.. BoDoH.. Seriously..
Please go dig back what I said. I said absorbers and anti roll bar made by proton.
Mr Journalist.. Muli link suspension from left to right connected is called anti roll bar!! If u dont understand english.
Ops sorry.. Forte use torsion beam guess u never know what the fark is an antiroll bar. YOU YOUSELF SAYS THE METAL WHICH CONNECT THE TWO REAR ARMS! Mr genious! Again I repeat its call ANTI ROLL BAR!! And dig back the previous post I said! LANCER GT IS USING 20mm , LANCER GLS NON! Proton inspira 16mm (local made).. And MR GENIOUS! Go find me an anti roll bar that weights 50KG!

u keep making urself look like an idiot. So did u ask any diff in terms of engine gearbox of lancer gl and gt? And who the hell is ur source?

let me teach u something else. The thing that holds the arm together is call sub frame. The sub frame hold the left and right arm in place. The thing that  hold the left and right arm together is call anti roll bar! And already I mention earlier made by proton. And again I said its a different tuning. Ur english fail I guess.
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diam la bolo
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Bro..no point troll here. he dun even understand when ppl sound him.. Troll he dun understand. Terus terus can d..
IM interested in 50kg anti roll bar
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 14 2013, 07:03 PM)
Bro..no point troll here. he dun even understand when ppl sound him.. Troll he dun understand. Terus terus can d..
IM interested in 50kg anti roll bar
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you can have a 50kg but it will be brittle sweat.gif
cannot take the body roll

and i dont believe car maker will choose this kind of material

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post Jul 14 2013, 07:13 PM

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50kg...... not bad mah.....
scrap can sell with value
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I am sorry to TS. We go off topic that much.

TS had u go for test drive for the cars above?
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is he kyheng?
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Let me summarize it.

Jayraptor started ..
He claim Inspira many local parts like wira 1.6
Then he claim chassis diff from lancer gt and gls

We explain
Many mitsu parts but proton assembly proton workmanship
We told him chassis same. Juz suspension diff tuning. Softer absorber setup with smaller anti roll bar. Local

Jayraptor says we tryin to spread lies tell ppl lots of lancer parts he further claim we might be prpton salesperson trying to push sales. He also claim local parts using diff density material give diff performance and setup. He further claim US emission control is crap no such thing.

we show him prove that the list of mitsu parts and show him the epa website.

he tot he very smart ask his fren ( we dunno got or not one he no prove no nothing) then tot he very smart show us the diff is the metal tat connect rear left n right arm! That is the 50kg diff!!!

And finally found out its what I have spoken in the first place anti roll bar... Lolz whistling.gif

Take a stone throw own leg
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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Jul 14 2013, 07:14 PM)
is he kyheng?
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 14 2013, 07:15 PM)
wah the legendary guy thumbup.gif
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ya lor die2 want us take what is he saying rite? similar to kyheng la...some more comparison also between old proton...some more wira jor...kyheng owns wira too! kyheng also kenot tahan bashing inspira too last time...hehehe
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inspira is proton lah......
proton means made in malaysia......

lancer don have lotus handling ler.......

n our aircond colder.....

n proton is 3mm shorter
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JayCraptor is seriously FULL of Craps yo?


Keep skin larrr
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compairing old proton.......
lan jiao lah.......

we are comparing protonlution gen l and gen ll
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Why China smell? If its made in Malaysia, then it should be Malaysia smell isnt it?
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but he is better lah......

TS, back to title, don buy inspira lah....
too many sot plak owner....

some say don beliv dyno, some say 3mm issue, some claim weight does matter.....

haiya....
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 14 2013, 05:37 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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DIAM LA BODOH!!!
please get your fact right, read here, BODOH!
inspira 2.0P
http://proton-edar.com.my/Experience/Model...82%29.aspx#info
lancer gt
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/pdf/ca...gt-brochure.pdf

1350kg vs 1360kg

where the hll u find those figures?

and u dont even know what the METAL BAR call, u really sounds like a car noob. that bar called SWAY BAR or ANTI-ROLL BAR, it made of spring grade metal. And you fcking telling me that thing weight about 50kg??? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

please dont comment here again,else u will only expose all your stupidness here. doh.gif

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Later I go print screen lancer GT and his so call lancer GLS punya rear suspension setup from lancer factory service manual show him... I really laugh till stomachache d..
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Anti roll bar weighs 50kg yo


MY FREN TOLD ME...hahaha

or izzit his mommy told him...?
or izzit his daddy told him...?




My fren told me... JayCraptor is a dumb-arse
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NzH reading the brochures together gether with NOOB jayraptor

i mean jaycraptor
lol

so ghey
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apa lu cakap i got paper to suppork me behind vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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how? sumbat tisu masuk sifat long? scare nzh play?
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Extracted from a 2011 lancer service manual (factory service manual) ..
**Pst .. i know u might says I DRAW it out .

Some headups for you ...

The specs are base on USA lancer .

Lancer DE -> FF Low spec , 16" wheels
Lancer ES -> FF Mid spec, 16" wheels
Lancer GTS -> FF high spec, 18" wheels ..
Lancer SE -> AWD mid spec 16" wheels

Our lancer GT is actually a MID spec only (comparing against US spec) .. YES mid spec ..
GTS comes with 2.4 (4B12 engine) . Bigger brakes .. local lancer GT (only one batch comes with bigger brakes .. other smaller brakes)

If you look at the picture i posted.. it stated Lancer GTS and ES comes with your so call metal Beam @ Anti Roll bar .. which weights 50kg ... (according to you) . Other parts is the same..

Yea yea yea .. i made this up
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Jul 14 2013, 08:45 PM)
why u need paper to support ur behind?
how?  sumbat tisu masuk sifat long?  scare nzh play?
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lolz, genius, once sit inside cabin and smell, can know wheres the car origin , notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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I sudah fedup showing him the truth d ..

Antirollbar 50kg he also can think off ...
GG
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Ok .. let him be more idiot

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Just incase u dont know
Inspira comes with 10.9" ventilated front disc
Rear comes with 10.3" solid disc .. (its a Mid spec in this list .. the ES) ..

Look at the suspension part .

GTS comes with tower bar (front) and stabilizer bar behind @ anti roll bar ..

before u start to speak .. Go google up what is stabilizer bar and tower bar first... DUN make yourself another mistaken .. Google can help u

Notice here .. GTS comes with 4B12 (US) .. our local GT only get the 4B10 @ 2.0 engine
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all spec and chasis same like lancer also no use la, smells like china made cars whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 14 2013, 10:01 PM)
all spec and chasis same like lancer also no use la, smells like china made cars  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Uhmm Honda Jazz Hybrid, now RM 79xxx which is worth right? lol
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Uhmm Honda Jazz Hybrid, now RM 79xxx which is worth right? lol
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the CKD jazz also valued for money
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CBU used to be closed to 100k.

Now CKD hybrid which with 12k discount, yet around 78k is worth.

non hybird version 74k but I think non hybrid is aiming those tax free state more, by which means hybrid is more worth for non tax free state.

I think, now even I think twice whether I should change mine, but 2 years later I might option to work oversea will selling it off... uhmmm
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Would like to make some inquires on the Inspira, hope you guys can offer some advice.

Currently thinking of getting the Inspira but understands that it may cease production soon. Would like to know whether will there be any difficulties in getting replacement parts in the future? Like say another 3 to 5 years?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(OldKidz @ Jul 14 2013, 10:38 PM)
CBU used to be closed to 100k.

Now CKD hybrid which with 12k discount, yet around 78k is worth.

non hybird version 74k but I think non hybrid is aiming those tax free state more, by which means hybrid is more worth for non tax free state.

I think, now even I think twice whether I should change mine, but 2 years later I might option to work oversea will selling it off... uhmmm
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If you are not planning to use long .. go get a 2nd hand cheaper car (personal opnion) .. not worth to spend on the car .. coz first 2 years value drop the most ..

hybrid i would worry more to the electronics .. thou i can mess with it (i did on the inspira ... much higher spec that the local lancer GT can offer now whistling.gif) .. but then for hybrid .. i think the sparepart will kill me d ..
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QUOTE(@udio_jr @ Jul 14 2013, 10:47 PM)
Would like to make some inquires on the Inspira, hope you guys can offer some advice.

Currently thinking of getting the Inspira but understands that it may cease production soon. Would like to know whether will there be any difficulties in getting replacement parts in the future? Like say another 3 to 5 years?

Thanks.
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Bro .. like i stated previously .. most parts are lancers (all major parts are lancers)...
If i were u .. i would worry on the parts price first ... becoz its mitsubishi parts ...

headups for u
original air filter .. RM149 .. thats why many replace to KNN
spark plugs .. RM60 each
brake pads .. front alone 400 ++
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Bro .. like i stated previously .. most parts are lancers (all major parts are lancers)...
If i were u .. i would worry on the parts price first ... becoz its mitsubishi parts ...

headups for u
original air filter .. RM149 .. thats why many replace to KNN
spark plugs .. RM60 each
brake pads .. front alone 400 ++
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Thanks for the reply.

Knew that the price for original parts will be pricey, but i'm just more concern on the parts availability. The lancer has been on the road for quite a while and it's not a new model to begin with. Not sure whether will the spare parts be easily available if a replacement model comes out.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(@udio_jr @ Jul 14 2013, 11:00 PM)
Thanks for the reply.

Knew that the price for original parts will be pricey, but i'm just more concern on the parts availability. The lancer has been on the road for quite a while and it's not a new model to begin with. Not sure whether will the spare parts be easily available if a replacement model comes out.

Thanks.
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Lancer is a global car. parts availability will easily last years. Dun worry about it. Pricing parts will be .. Lolz some shocking price if u are interested..

Key .. Proton sell 558. Mitsu can get for 400+
Air con compressor .. I claim mine .. 3800++
headlight 1700
Front hood 2000++
Windscreen 3000++ (latestbatch got localize proton windscreen d.. 800++)
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QUOTE(@udio_jr @ Jul 14 2013, 11:00 PM)
Thanks for the reply.

Knew that the price for original parts will be pricey, but i'm just more concern on the parts availability. The lancer has been on the road for quite a while and it's not a new model to begin with. Not sure whether will the spare parts be easily available if a replacement model comes out.

Thanks.
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U may visit lyn Inspira car club....

Kenny not sales man. Haha. Just he knows the car well.
Don't be surprise he got all the price list.
Japanese car, ppl never worry about the parts. Remember?

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QUOTE(jnick @ Jul 14 2013, 11:26 PM)
U may visit lyn Inspira car club....

Kenny not sales man. Haha. Just he knows the car well.
Don't be surprise he got all the price list.
Japanese car, ppl never worry about the parts. Remember?
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Yup.. I know the car inside out. I dismantle it here and there.. Add missing feature .. Not juz parts.. So I know the pros and cons over the lancer .. And hell yeah im cheapskate! Not like some pro whom talk kok and refer from his fren Alex
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 14 2013, 09:56 PM)
Ok .. let him be more idiot

user posted image
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Just incase u dont know
Inspira comes with 10.9" ventilated front disc
Rear comes with 10.3" solid disc .. (its a Mid spec in this list .. the ES) ..

Look at the suspension part .

GTS comes with tower bar (front) and stabilizer bar behind @ anti roll bar ..

before u start to speak .. Go google up what is stabilizer bar and tower bar first... DUN make yourself another mistaken .. Google can help u

Notice here .. GTS comes with 4B12 (US) .. our local GT only get the 4B10 @ 2.0 engine
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Diam la bodoh....2.0 engine is 4b11 la....samore want spread lies.....
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 14 2013, 05:37 PM)
Wow, already 4 replies so far. I am glad that at least allenultra stayed professional and neutral, good job.

The rest replied with much hatred that they go personal. Why can't reply properly and fill in the blanks with hatred? You sellman or have business related to P1?

I managed to check this info from the same person who told the differences between Inspira & Lancer GT 2 years ago. Here's his reply:

When MMC & P1 signed the deal, it stated clearly, any technical parts that will lead to breakdown, engine blown, failed handling like Sylphy/Almera, or any issue that could damage MMC reputation.

The Inspira is based on the Lancer GL that can't sell well that was phased out earlier. In the assembly plant, the engine, gearbox, the suspension, electronic components/modules/sensors, interior dashboard, door panels brought in imported. The machine here does the stamping with the metal sheets imported. The rest of the parts that won't cause breakdown are done locally. Some are sub to local companies to produce the parts. Due to improper storage (space vacuum), the interior of Inspira not as fragrant as brand new Conti/Japanese/Korean cars inside. Smells like China made cars.

The P1 tuned suspension is only myth to show that they do produce something and the rear suspension is exact match of Lancer GL and not from Lancer GT.

Kerb weight:
Lancer 2.0GT 1385kg
Lancer 2.0GL 1320kg (reduced ingredient variant for 3rd nation)
Lancer 2.0GL 1335kg
Inspira 2.0 Premium 1335kg

Difference between Lancer GL & GT lies in the large METAL BAR that connects to both rear wheels arms. Relook into your replies earlier, don't know why you keep showing me the arm. Show the arm for what when people talking about the whole Multilink rear suspension? Have to use the word Metal Bar or Metal Beam or else you would refer elsewhere. Who knows, you might show me the tie rod in front in reply. That 50kg difference came from this metal bar alone. Understand? Mind you the bodykit, side skirt, & spoiler aren't heavy that even small kid could easily carry it with 1 hand. People use adhesive 2 sided tape specially for PU & fibreglass material for skirting nowadays. No more cement.

So stop saying your Inspira is Lancer GT. It's based on Lancer GL and that is why MMC willing to let P1 rebadge but under strict restriction and monitoring. This explains why Lancer GT sales still survive today. Many who can't afford new would buy used Lancer GT rather than buy that Inspira. Hassle free guaranteed thumbup.gif
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Oh my god, METAL BAR??? you are really showing us how shallow minded and stupid you are?
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Oh my god, METAL BAR??? you are really showing us how shallow minded and stupid you are?
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Off Topic level>9999 I pity ts sad.gif

btw, I really needa learn Crap more la... can crap in my exam n make my lecturer give me more marks....

dafuq! sway bar 50kg. =____=
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Hiya, tumpang topic, with interest as the same as TS, what kind of cars do you guys recommend? Sorry i'm a car noob..haha

After much "angan2" looks like

1. Kia Rio SX
2. Suzuki Swift Sport
3. Ford Fiesta Beta/Sapphire 1.6L

are my choices. I like what Kia Rio SX could offer with 80k, especially the interior design and accessories part though suzuki swift sport might be the real deal, an extra 25k might seem a little steep while the ford fiesta sport seems to be just right. Out of those 3 choices, which one do you guys would choose?

I might try and have a test drive when i'm free and when the car is available..too much work too handle on these few days. Thanks guys!
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QUOTE(zeilouz @ Jul 15 2013, 01:06 AM)
Hiya, tumpang topic, with interest as the same as TS, what kind of cars do you guys recommend? Sorry i'm a car noob..haha

After much "angan2" looks like

1. Kia Rio SX
2. Suzuki Swift Sport
3. Ford Fiesta Beta/Sapphire 1.6L

are my choices. I like what Kia Rio SX could offer with 80k, especially the interior design and accessories part though suzuki swift sport might be the real deal, an extra 25k might seem a little steep while the ford fiesta sport seems to be just right. Out of those 3 choices, which one do you guys would choose?

I might try and have a test drive when i'm free and when the car is available..too much work too handle on these few days. Thanks guys!
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new fiesta ecoboost 1.0 coming soon...maybe u should wait?
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new fiesta ecoboost 1.0 coming soon...maybe u should wait?
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Where can find this Metal Bar weight 50kg ah? ohmy.gif And Lancer GL look like how? I try ask google all it can show is wira and putra? doh.gif
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Where can find this Metal Bar weight 50kg ah?  ohmy.gif  And Lancer GL look like how? I try ask google all it can show is wira and putra?  doh.gif
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:54 PM)
Still wanted to spread lies here? Will check with those parts people and revert back to you. If any of your claim are false and proven you are with P1 marketing team spreading false lies to boost sales by saying 'Inspira techwise is same as Lancer', I will shoot you back kaw kaw. You don't mess with consumers. This will take time in order to get to them.
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yes raptor i agree with you. please find more proof and shoot them kaw kaw!!
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where is the mr j-Crap-ter ??? com'on... shoot them back kaw kaw
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wow~ my post became a battlefield~ cool2.gif

anyway, i'm waiting for the new Fiesta which might be coming out in AUgust.

The reduced price Jazz are attractive, but is not in my consideration...yet...

after the launching of Fiesta, only then i decide which car to choose for.

p/s: my first choice will be the inspira 2.0P for now... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 15 2013, 01:03 PM)
wow~ my post became a battlefield~  cool2.gif

anyway, i'm waiting for the new Fiesta which might be coming out in AUgust.

The reduced price Jazz are attractive, but is not in my consideration...yet...

after the launching of Fiesta, only then i decide which car to choose for.

p/s: my first choice will be the inspira 2.0P for now...  rclxms.gif
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you just picked a car smell like China PRC
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what's wrong with PRC ? u look PRC no up ? u try compare shenzhen and KL .. then u'll know kl memang kampung tongue.gif
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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 15 2013, 01:03 PM)
wow~ my post became a battlefield~  cool2.gif

anyway, i'm waiting for the new Fiesta which might be coming out in AUgust.

The reduced price Jazz are attractive, but is not in my consideration...yet...

after the launching of Fiesta, only then i decide which car to choose for.

p/s: my first choice will be the inspira 2.0P for now...  rclxms.gif
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Sorry bro.
Cant tahan but to shoot that Genius whom claim know a lot but actually his fact are all his imagination. Misleading and sinkalingam. Summore claim other providing lies.
You can come our regular TT to know more about what u are getting first. We have proof and solid evidence no thru frens or relatives whom work as garbage collector in proton.
Go ask in Lynspira thread for more info.
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Sorry bro.
Cant tahan but to shoot that Genius whom claim know a lot but actually his fact are all his imagination. Misleading and sinkalingam. Summore claim other providing lies.
You can come our regular TT to know more about what u are getting first. We have proof and solid evidence no thru frens or relatives whom work as garbage collector in proton.
Go ask in Lynspira thread for more info.
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QUOTE(ngjx @ Jul 15 2013, 01:35 PM)
I go in there to ask but kena TROLLED 999!! cry.gif cry.gif
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Me 2.. TS dont trust them.. they are just a bunch of trollers and bashers.. cry.gif
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Me 2.. TS dont trust them.. they are just a bunch of trollers and bashers.. cry.gif
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U n Ngjx face problem...
But don't assume everyone like u both la.....
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 15 2013, 01:16 PM)
So I kena troll la  vmad.gif  cry.gif
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QUOTE(botack @ Jul 15 2013, 01:18 PM)
you belip this Jnick meh... shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(jnick @ Jul 15 2013, 02:54 PM)
U n Ngjx face problem...
But don't assume everyone like u both la.....
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Jnick the troll... U want to belip him? Think again! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zeilouz @ Jul 15 2013, 02:35 AM)
i'm abit sceptical about the price though, as uk priced the car at £14k, (+-RM70K), i'm worried that the price might be more than RM100k in Malaysia. Any probable dates that they might unveil the car otr?  smile.gif
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i think it should be riiiight below 100k, 100k above would be quite impossible...its thai manufactured. just wait...they already running a campaign for it...should be within 2 months
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U really one word to describe.. BoDoH.. Seriously..
Please go dig back what I said. I said absorbers and anti roll bar made by proton.
Mr Journalist.. Muli link suspension from left to right connected is called anti roll bar!! If u dont understand english.
Ops sorry.. Forte use torsion beam guess u never know what the fark is an antiroll bar. YOU YOUSELF SAYS THE METAL WHICH CONNECT THE TWO REAR ARMS! Mr genious! Again I repeat its call ANTI ROLL BAR!! And dig back the previous post I said! LANCER GT IS USING 20mm , LANCER GLS NON! Proton inspira 16mm (local made).. And MR GENIOUS! Go find me an anti roll bar that weights 50KG!

u keep making urself look like an idiot. So did u ask any diff in terms of engine gearbox of lancer gl and gt? And who the hell is ur source?

let me teach u something else. The thing that holds the arm together is call sub frame. The sub frame hold the left and right arm in place. The thing that  hold the left and right arm together is call anti roll bar! And already I mention earlier made by proton. And again I said its a different tuning. Ur english fail I guess.
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You are the dumb here. You wanted facts, I checked with professional and gave the answer from him. Yet you go mad and personal. Can't face the fact still? What else do you need? That is the part that we are debating here and you out of nowhere go and talk about the arm. Aiseh!

Talking to people like you have to use downgraded to basic English. Else, you would misinterpret and think aftermarket something else. Do you know what is swaybar?

You can go lift the BMW 5-series, Mazda 3/6, Lancer GT rear suspension METAL BAR (try not to use jargon with dumb KIASU like you) then you come and tell me how heavy. You think that Metal BAR so light? The so called lighter Torsion Beam one is not that light neither.

Then can you explain where the 50kg come from? The rims and wheels ain't that much big difference from 16" wheels neither. The spoiler? FYI, FF cars that wanted to improve handling, they would distribute more weight to the rear by adding more metal to the back. OK?

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 10:58 PM)
You are the dumb here. You wanted facts, I checked with professional and gave the answer from him. Yet you go mad and personal. Can't face the fact still? What else do you need? That is the part that we are debating here and you out of nowhere go and talk about the arm. Aiseh!

Talking to people like you have to use downgraded to basic English. Else, you would misinterpret and think aftermarket something else. Do you know what is swaybar?

You can go lift the BMW 5-series, Mazda 3/6, Lancer GT rear suspension METAL BAR (try not to use jargon with dumb KIASU like you) then you come and tell me how heavy. You think that Metal BAR so light? The so called lighter Torsion Beam one is not that light neither.

Then can you explain where the 50kg come from? The rims and wheels ain't that much big difference from 16" wheels neither. The spoiler? FYI, FF cars that wanted to improve handling, they would distribute more weight to the rear by adding more metal to the back. OK?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 10:58 PM)
You are the dumb here. You wanted facts, I checked with professional and gave the answer from him. Yet you go mad and personal. Can't face the fact still? What else do you need? That is the part that we are debating here and you out of nowhere go and talk about the arm. Aiseh!

Talking to people like you have to use downgraded to basic English. Else, you would misinterpret and think aftermarket something else. Do you know what is swaybar?

You can go lift the BMW 5-series, Mazda 3/6, Lancer GT rear suspension METAL BAR (try not to use jargon with dumb KIASU like you) then you come and tell me how heavy. You think that Metal BAR so light? The so called lighter Torsion Beam one is not that light neither.

Then can you explain where the 50kg come from? The rims and wheels ain't that much big difference from 16" wheels neither. The spoiler? FYI, FF cars that wanted to improve handling, they would distribute more weight to the rear by adding more metal to the back. OK?
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i checked with professional and gave the answer from him that u r the joker of the year
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 10:58 PM)
You are the dumb here. You wanted facts, I checked with professional and gave the answer from him. Yet you go mad and personal. Can't face the fact still? What else do you need? That is the part that we are debating here and you out of nowhere go and talk about the arm. Aiseh!

Talking to people like you have to use downgraded to basic English. Else, you would misinterpret and think aftermarket something else. Do you know what is swaybar?

You can go lift the BMW 5-series, Mazda 3/6, Lancer GT rear suspension METAL BAR (try not to use jargon with dumb KIASU like you) then you come and tell me how heavy. You think that Metal BAR so light? The so called lighter Torsion Beam one is not that light neither.

Then can you explain where the 50kg come from? The rims and wheels ain't that much big difference from 16" wheels neither. The spoiler? FYI, FF cars that wanted to improve handling, they would distribute more weight to the rear by adding more metal to the back. OK?
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Rear suspension metal bar in other words is ARB right? Or Anti roll bar right? I thought sway bar and anti roll bar is the same? Google also told me it is the same. So you are saying lancer GT sway bar which is 20mm is lighter than inspira's 16mm sway bar? Or is it the other way round?
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QUOTE(botack @ Jul 15 2013, 11:19 PM)
Rear suspension metal bar in other words is ARB right? Or Anti roll bar right? I thought sway bar and anti roll bar is the same? Google also told me it is the same. So you are saying lancer GT sway bar which is 20mm is lighter than inspira's 16mm sway bar? Or is it the other way round?
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Lets recap what jay-crap-tor said before
1. Inspira has many localized parts
2. Inspira has many parts missing
3. Inspira has China-car smell
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QUOTE(botack @ Jul 15 2013, 11:19 PM)
Rear suspension metal bar in other words is ARB right? Or Anti roll bar right? I thought sway bar and anti roll bar is the same? Google also told me it is the same. So you are saying lancer GT sway bar which is 20mm is lighter than inspira's 16mm sway bar? Or is it the other way round?
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Yes, sway bar is anti-roll bar. Even the cheap aftermarket thingy bought from kaki motor or brothers is also called anti-roll bar that is real light and fit to Wira suspension. Avoid using the word anti-roll bar or sway bar seems it led to confusion to many. Just call the bone like bar in the rear METAL BAR for the time being. How many of you really remove the entire rear suspension set and try to lift with hands for real?

By the way, despite so many disagreement, how come none ever mention where did the 50kg extra weight in Lancer GT come from? Inspira & Lancer GL are actually at the same weight at 1335kg while Lancer GT at 1385kg. Back then people said its the bodykit which is incorrect. Then they relook to the chassis, they don't find anything different between GT & GL. Exhaust pipe, resonator, catalytic convertor and manifold also not that heavy. Where else?

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 10:58 PM)
You are the dumb here. You wanted facts, I checked with professional and gave the answer from him. Yet you go mad and personal. Can't face the fact still? What else do you need? That is the part that we are debating here and you out of nowhere go and talk about the arm. Aiseh!

Talking to people like you have to use downgraded to basic English. Else, you would misinterpret and think aftermarket something else. Do you know what is swaybar?

You can go lift the BMW 5-series, Mazda 3/6, Lancer GT rear suspension METAL BAR (try not to use jargon with dumb KIASU like you) then you come and tell me how heavy. You think that Metal BAR so light? The so called lighter Torsion Beam one is not that light neither.

Then can you explain where the 50kg come from? The rims and wheels ain't that much big difference from 16" wheels neither. The spoiler? FYI, FF cars that wanted to improve handling, they would distribute more weight to the rear by adding more metal to the back. OK?
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So, ur forte is much better than Inspira/Lancer?

Itu awak mau kan selama ini?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 11:32 PM)
Yes, sway bar is anti-roll bar. Even the cheap aftermarket thingy bought from kaki motor or brothers is also called anti-roll bar that is real light and fit to Wira suspension. Avoid using the word anti-roll bar or sway bar seems it led to confusion to many. Just call the bone like bar in the rear METAL BAR for the time being. How many of you really remove the entire rear suspension set and try to lift with hands for real?

By the way, despite so many disagreement, how come none ever mention where did the 50kg extra weight in Lancer GT come from? Inspira & Lancer GL are actually at the same weight at 1335kg while Lancer GT at 1385kg. Back then people said its the bodykit which is incorrect. Then they relook to the chassis, they don't find anything different between GT & GL. Exhaust pipe, resonator, catalytic convertor and manifold also not that heavy.  Where else?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 10:58 PM)
You are the dumb here. You wanted facts, I checked with professional and gave the answer from him. Yet you go mad and personal. Can't face the fact still? What else do you need? That is the part that we are debating here and you out of nowhere go and talk about the arm. Aiseh!

Talking to people like you have to use downgraded to basic English. Else, you would misinterpret and think aftermarket something else. Do you know what is swaybar?

You can go lift the BMW 5-series, Mazda 3/6, Lancer GT rear suspension METAL BAR (try not to use jargon with dumb KIASU like you) then you come and tell me how heavy. You think that Metal BAR so light? The so called lighter Torsion Beam one is not that light neither.

Then can you explain where the 50kg come from? The rims and wheels ain't that much big difference from 16" wheels neither. The spoiler? FYI, FF cars that wanted to improve handling, they would distribute more weight to the rear by adding more metal to the back. OK?
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OK!!!

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smell
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you can weight the smell?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 11:32 PM)
Yes, sway bar is anti-roll bar. Even the cheap aftermarket thingy bought from kaki motor or brothers is also called anti-roll bar that is real light and fit to Wira suspension. Avoid using the word anti-roll bar or sway bar seems it led to confusion to many. Just call the bone like bar in the rear METAL BAR for the time being. How many of you really remove the entire rear suspension set and try to lift with hands for real?

By the way, despite so many disagreement, how come none ever mention where did the 50kg extra weight in Lancer GT come from? Inspira & Lancer GL are actually at the same weight at 1335kg while Lancer GT at 1385kg. Back then people said its the bodykit which is incorrect. Then they relook to the chassis, they don't find anything different between GT & GL. Exhaust pipe, resonator, catalytic convertor and manifold also not that heavy.  Where else?
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Wah Lau!!!! The driver la!!!!!
The driver like a Dino size!!!!!!

The "metal bar" u mention from earth ah? So high density.

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 11:32 PM)
Yes, sway bar is anti-roll bar. Even the cheap aftermarket thingy bought from kaki motor or brothers is also called anti-roll bar that is real light and fit to Wira suspension. Avoid using the word anti-roll bar or sway bar seems it led to confusion to many. Just call the bone like bar in the rear METAL BAR for the time being. How many of you really remove the entire rear suspension set and try to lift with hands for real?

By the way, despite so many disagreement, how come none ever mention where did the 50kg extra weight in Lancer GT come from? Inspira & Lancer GL are actually at the same weight at 1335kg while Lancer GT at 1385kg. Back then people said its the bodykit which is incorrect. Then they relook to the chassis, they don't find anything different between GT & GL. Exhaust pipe, resonator, catalytic convertor and manifold also not that heavy.  Where else?
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I guess, for a start, the Lancer GT rims is 11kg where as the inspira stock rims is 9.8kg..the anti roll bar is only around less than 10kg for lancer 20mm..the bodykits of inspira and lancer GT is not that much of difference at all, so I would say a difference between 5-10kg? That is the only thing that I could think of.

For your info bro, Lancer GL chasis is different from inspira..inspira chasis code is CY4A same as lancer GT. Lancer GL's chasis code is CP9A which has the same chasis code as evo 6. Oh ya, my cousin owns a lancer GT and based on the lancer's forum..it is confirm that inspira is lancer GT but with a proton badge on it.
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you can weight the smell?
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yes.. gt have better quality smell ma.. so heavier lor.. inspila 1 like tin losong... so lighter lor... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 15 2013, 11:39 PM)
you can weight the smell?
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my professional friend told me can.

this is fact, my professional friend told me
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QUOTE(botack @ Jul 15 2013, 11:47 PM)
I guess, for a start, the Lancer GT rims is 11kg where as the inspira stock rims is 9.8kg..the anti roll bar is only around less than 10kg for lancer 20mm..the bodykits of inspira and lancer GT is not that much of difference at all, so I would say a difference between 5-10kg? That is the only thing that I could think of.

For your info bro, Lancer GL chasis is different from inspira..inspira chasis code is CY4A same as lancer GT. Lancer GL's chasis code is CP9A which has the same chasis code as evo 6. Oh ya, my cousin owns a lancer GT and based on the lancer's forum..it is confirm that inspira is lancer GT but with a proton badge on it.
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your friend is not professional. fact not accepted. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 15 2013, 11:49 PM)
my professional friend told me can.

this is fact, my professional friend told me
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Yes I agree.

I got a professional friend told me so!
Must be true d!
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QUOTE(botack @ Jul 15 2013, 11:47 PM)
I guess, for a start, the Lancer GT rims is 11kg where as the inspira stock rims is 9.8kg..the anti roll bar is only around less than 10kg for lancer 20mm..the bodykits of inspira and lancer GT is not that much of difference at all, so I would say a difference between 5-10kg? That is the only thing that I could think of.

For your info bro, Lancer GL chasis is different from inspira..inspira chasis code is CY4A same as lancer GT. Lancer GL's chasis code is CP9A which has the same chasis code as evo 6. Oh ya, my cousin owns a lancer GT and based on the lancer's forum..it is confirm that inspira is lancer GT but with a proton badge on it.
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Your evo x code is what?? Sold d??
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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Jul 15 2013, 11:36 PM)
So, ur forte is much better than Inspira/Lancer?

Itu awak mau kan selama ini?
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Don't know why you drag Forte into this. The discussion at the moment is about trying to find out the difference between Inspira & Lancer.

Metaphorical meaning:
If the colour is red, I say red. If the colour is blue, I say blue. If the taste is sour, I say sour. If the taste is sweet, I say sweet. If it is hard, I say hard. If it is soft, I say soft. If it is loud, I say loud. If it is soft (voice), I say soft. People comment based on what the senses detect.

So, what is your reason to get mad and personal in the first place if you are not sellman or marketing staff? Refer botack's comment. At least he still replied properly what his guess. How about the rest?

Thanks to botack for proper reply.

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 11:58 PM)
Don't know why you drag Forte into this. The discussion at the moment is about trying to find out the difference between Inspira & Lancer.

Metaphorical meaning:
If the colour is red, I say red. If the colour is blue, I say blue. If the taste is sour, I say sour. If the taste is sweet, I say sweet. If it is hard, I say hard. If it is soft, I say soft. If it is loud, I say loud. If it is soft (voice), I say soft. People comment based on what the senses detect.

So, what is your reason to get mad and personal in the first place if you are not sellman or marketing staff? Refer botack's comment. At least he still replied properly what his guess. How about the rest?

Thanks to botack for proper reply.
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Woooohoooo noob-arse Craptor

You are the noob-arse that stated the 'Metal Bar' thingy made up for the 50kg difference, you noob-arse

After making the statement of the so-called noob-arse 50kg 'metal bar' and now you cameback telling you dunno where came the 50kg noob-arse difference

Omg...you noob-arse

Where is alex?
Upgraded summore professional alex

you are officially crowned 'Noob-arse JayCraptor'


Ptuiiiiiii

find the answer sendiri, u so high metal bar
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 10:58 PM)
You are the dumb here. You wanted facts, I checked with professional and gave the answer from him. Yet you go mad and personal. Can't face the fact still? What else do you need? That is the part that we are debating here and you out of nowhere go and talk about the arm. Aiseh!

Talking to people like you have to use downgraded to basic English. Else, you would misinterpret and think aftermarket something else. Do you know what is swaybar?

You can go lift the BMW 5-series, Mazda 3/6, Lancer GT rear suspension METAL BAR (try not to use jargon with dumb KIASU like you) then you come and tell me how heavy. You think that Metal BAR so light? The so called lighter Torsion Beam one is not that light neither.

Then can you explain where the 50kg come from? The rims and wheels ain't that much big difference from 16" wheels neither. The spoiler? FYI, FF cars that wanted to improve handling, they would distribute more weight to the rear by adding more metal to the back. OK?
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fck u la,
even stock infiniti G37 35mm front sway bar about 14.2lbs,which is about 6.4kg
http://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sedan/2249...bar-weight.html

and u fcking tell me that thing weight 50kg! i use 2 fingers lift up that so called 50kg 20mm bar at half cut shop before! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(botack @ Jul 15 2013, 11:47 PM)
I guess, for a start, the Lancer GT rims is 11kg where as the inspira stock rims is 9.8kg..the anti roll bar is only around less than 10kg for lancer 20mm..the bodykits of inspira and lancer GT is not that much of difference at all, so I would say a difference between 5-10kg? That is the only thing that I could think of.

For your info bro, Lancer GL chasis is different from inspira..inspira chasis code is CY4A same as lancer GT. Lancer GL's chasis code is CP9A which has the same chasis code as evo 6. Oh ya, my cousin owns a lancer GT and based on the lancer's forum..it is confirm that inspira is lancer GT but with a proton badge on it.
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bots
no need to tok sense into this fella

all info oledi given by K3

still he is langsi reading the brochures


Ptuiiiiii


beh tahan
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QUOTE(WilliamHoo @ Jul 16 2013, 12:04 AM)
Woooohoooo noob-arse Craptor

You are the noob-arse that stated the 'Metal Bar' thingy made up for the 50kg difference, you noob-arse

After making the statement of the so-called noob-arse 50kg 'metal bar' and now you cameback telling you dunno where came the 50kg noob-arse difference

Omg...you noob-arse

Where is alex?
Upgraded summore professional alex

you are officially crowned 'Noob-arse JayCraptor'
Ptuiiiiiii

find the answer sendiri, u so high metal bar
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WilliamHoo & nzh0920,

Still stay hostile out of personal reason or interest? Minus the foul language, so where do you think the 50kg difference coming from? Chassis? And why MMC wanted to put in the extra weight in the Lancer GT in the first place? You know that weight put Lancer almost as heavy as D-segment.

Even if you both are related to P1, you still have to answer as the public would love to hear from you 2. Relatively, people hate ruthless sellman & marketing staff that don't serve public interest. Would like to compare your answer with your technical department answer. You can't answer well, you should let those technical staff take over your place.

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 12:12 AM)
WilliamHoo & nzh0920,

Still stay hostile out of personal reason or interest? Minus the foul language, so where do you think the 50kg difference coming from? Chassis? And why MMC wanted to put in the extra weight in the Lancer GT in the first place? You know that weight put Lancer almost as heavy as D-segment.

Even if you both are related to P1, you still have to answer as the public would love to hear from you 2. Relatively, people hate ruthless sellman & marketing staff that don't serve public interest.
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i fck u because u are fcking dumb.
already told u curb weight figures, lancer gt 1360 , inspira 2.0P 1350, yet u claimed got 50kg different.
then u telling me that swaybar/anti roll bar weight about 50kg??? have u hold one before??? i even show u how a 35mm arb or metal bar u called it weight about 6.xkg. yet u still telling me tiny 20mm hollow bar weight about 50kg doh.gif
i really salute u , u really champion notworthy.gif notworthy.gif because u can make yourself believe the crap first and then crap like that is the fact, if other people dont know about car, they really possible will believe in u. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 12:12 AM)
WilliamHoo & nzh0920,

Still stay hostile out of personal reason or interest? Minus the foul language, so where do you think the 50kg difference coming from? Chassis? And why MMC wanted to put in the extra weight in the Lancer GT in the first place? You know that weight put Lancer almost as heavy as D-segment.

Even if you both are related to P1, you still have to answer as the public would love to hear from you 2. Relatively, people hate ruthless sellman & marketing staff that don't serve public interest.
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The journalist Noob-arse JayCraptor with his professional friend Alex is now asking where did the 50kg went.

my friend Alex told me it is the 50kg metal bar la
U must be a mitsu salesmen yo

Phail
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 16 2013, 12:15 AM)
i fck u because u are fcking dumb.
already told u curb weight figures, lancer gt 1360 , inspira 2.0P 1350, yet u claimed got 50kg different.
then u told me that swaybar/anti roll bar weight about 50kg??? have u hold one before??? i even show u how a 35mm arb or metal bar u called it weight about 6.xkg. yet u still telling me tiny 20mm hollow bar weight about 50kg  doh.gif
i really salute u , u really champion notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  because u can make yourself believe the crap first and then crap like that is the fact, if other people dont know about car, they really possible will believe in u.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Explain this before you tai chi it elsewhere, noob-arse JayCraptor

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i fck u because u are fcking dumb.
already told u curb weight figures, lancer gt 1360 , inspira 2.0P 1350, yet u claimed got 50kg different.
then u told me that swaybar/anti roll bar weight about 50kg??? have u hold one before??? i even show u how a 35mm arb or metal bar u called it weight about 6.xkg. yet u still telling me tiny 20mm hollow bar weight about 50kg  doh.gif
i really salute u , u really champion notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  because u can make yourself believe the crap first and then crap like that is the fact, if other people dont know about car, they really possible will believe in u.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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his professional source told him is 50kg difference ok! PROFESSIONAL!! ada paham?? PROFESSIONAL!
what r u?? just a p1 ruthless salesman.... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 12:12 AM)
WilliamHoo & nzh0920,

Still stay hostile out of personal reason or interest? Minus the foul language, so where do you think the 50kg difference coming from? Chassis? And why MMC wanted to put in the extra weight in the Lancer GT in the first place? You know that weight put Lancer almost as heavy as D-segment.

Even if you both are related to P1, you still have to answer as the public would love to hear from you 2. Relatively, people hate ruthless sellman & marketing staff that don't serve public interest. Would like to compare your answer with your technical department answer. You can't answer well, you should let those technical staff take over your place.
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Afterreading the thread for awhile almost all in here is being neutral.....personal attack on u...yes, cuz it seems u can't accept criticism from others, nobody said lander gt and inspira is the exact same car, we only stated that almost all of the parts is imported from Japan but assembled locally, besides the absorbers that is design n made by proton. We are claiming that inspira is no where inferior to Lancet gt, bsides the 2 is tune differently on handling. It seems u r the one trying to prove that inspira is a cheap knock off or worst quality/performance than Lancet gt. Which I believe strongly that u r very wrong. When ask u for ur facts to back up ur statement n believes, u r only giving nonsense and hear says or believe while k3nny actually gave u hard facts n proofs with specs sheets, parts number n photos which u still refuse to accept n believe, so tell me who is being the child here? So let me repeat my question, on what basis do u claim that inspira is a weaker/worst car compared to the Lancet gt?

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 16 2013, 12:15 AM)
i fck u because u are fcking dumb.
already told u curb weight figures, lancer gt 1360 , inspira 2.0P 1350, yet u claimed got 50kg different.
then u telling me that swaybar/anti roll bar weight about 50kg??? have u hold one before??? i even show u how a 35mm arb or metal bar u called it weight about 6.xkg. yet u still telling me tiny 20mm hollow bar weight about 50kg  doh.gif
i really salute u , u really champion notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  because u can make yourself believe the crap first and then crap like that is the fact, if other people dont know about car, they really possible will believe in u.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Don't change the specs. Lancer GT declared kerb weight is 1385kg in here, in West Asia, in US and in Japan. Inspira and Lancer GL kerb weight at 1335kg. Stick to facts. Don't reply if you are here to stir trouble rather than car talk.
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QUOTE(stewPik @ Jul 16 2013, 12:25 AM)
Afterreading the thread for awhile almost all in here is being neutral.....personal attack on u...yes, cuz it seems u can't accept criticism from others, nobody said lander gt and inspira is the exact same car, we only stated that almost all of the parts is imported from Japan but assembled locally, besides the absorbers that is design n made by proton. We are claiming that inspira is no where inferior to Lancet gt, bsides the 2 is tune differently on handling. It seems u r the one trying to prove that inspira is a cheap knock off or worst quality/performance than Lancet gt. Which I believe strongly that u r very wrong. When ask u for ur facts to back up ur statement n believes, u r only giving nonsense and hear says or believe while k3nny actually gave u hard facts n proofs with specs sheets, parts number n photos which u still refuse to accept n believe, so tell me who is being the child here? So let me repeat my question, on what basis do u claim that inspira is a weaker/worst car compared to the Lancet gt?
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50kg!!!

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QUOTE(ngjx @ Jul 16 2013, 12:21 AM)
his professional source told him is 50kg difference ok! PROFESSIONAL!! ada paham?? PROFESSIONAL!
what r u?? just a p1 ruthless salesman....  shakehead.gif
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Anti Roll Bar... jargon word?

only u shallow-minded and stupid noob-arse calls it a 50kg metal bar


Omg....

self claiming the 50kg difference... then ask for the answer

BODOH Jayraptor
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 12:26 AM)
Don't change the specs. Lancer GT declared kerb weight is 1385kg in here, in West Asia, in US and in Japan. Inspira and Lancer GL kerb weight at 1335kg. Stick to facts. Don't reply if you are here to stir trouble rather than car talk.
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where the fck u read 1385kg? that figures is 2.4L in other country
please click this link and read
mitsubishi malaysia official website
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/#/car/lancer_2.0gt
and if u cant read i show u
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 12:26 AM)
Don't change the specs. Lancer GT declared kerb weight is 1385kg in here, in West Asia, in US and in Japan. Inspira and Lancer GL kerb weight at 1335kg. Stick to facts. Don't reply if you are here to stir trouble rather than car talk.
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answer the Q
u noob arse


tai chi n twisting again


u 50kg metal bar dumb fck
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 12:26 AM)
Don't change the specs. Lancer GT declared kerb weight is 1385kg in here, in West Asia, in US and in Japan. Inspira and Lancer GL kerb weight at 1335kg. Stick to facts. Don't reply if you are here to stir trouble rather than car talk.
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For ur info inspira stated kerb weight is 1350kg, GET UR FACTS RIGHT, its only a Google away, over Lancet gt 1360kg, that's only 10kg diff, I guess if u take account on the rims weight, absorbers weight(cuz we know that it is diff manufactured) and ur 'metal bar' diff, I guess that's makes up most of the different.......I can say for sure, but I'm quite convinced by it.

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 16 2013, 12:31 AM)
where the fck u read 1385kg? that figures is 2.4L in other country
please click this link and read
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/#/car/lancer_2.0gt
and if u cant read i show u
user posted image
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Opppssss

dumb arse fck-face jayCraptor slapped himself in da face again and again and again



but still havent answered the 50kg metal bar
diverted to hamilan torsion beam heavier shiat
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QUOTE(stewPik @ Jul 16 2013, 12:34 AM)
For ur info inspira stated kerb weight is 1350kg, GET UR FACTS RIGHT, its only a Google away, over Lancet gt 1360kg, that's only 10kg diff, I guess if u take account on the rims weight, absorbers weight(cuz we know that it is diff manufactured) and ur 'metal bar' diff,  I guess that's makes up most of the different.......I can say for sure, but I'm quite convinced by it.
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i want answers for the 50kg metal bar larrr, bodoh

+the oversized disc n calipers leh
now tarak


Where the fck is the answer? JayCraptor
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Asking his professional friend Alex again
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 16 2013, 12:31 AM)
where the fck u read 1385kg? that figures is 2.4L in other country
please click this link and read
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/#/car/lancer_2.0gt
and if u cant read i show u
user posted image
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Hmmmm, it seems this is taken from mitsu Malaysia website....is it official...or nzh created it in like...mins time...anyways jayraptor....please explain or defend urself on this. U say right hard say hard...soft say soft...bla bla bla...so what u gonna say about this?
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Which forum will dumb-arse jayCraptor be migrating to next?

50kg metal bar
which?
name
pic
link
printscreen?

anything???
i want answers
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QUOTE(stewPik @ Jul 16 2013, 12:42 AM)
Hmmmm, it seems this is taken from mitsu Malaysia website....is it official...or nzh created it in like...mins time...anyways jayraptor....please explain or defend urself on this. U say right hard say hard...soft say soft...bla bla bla...so what u gonna say about this?
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I think he is gonna migrate again


LOL


mempersiasuikan
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Entertaining and enlightening thread.. tongue.gif
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Entertaining and enlightening thread..  tongue.gif
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this thread is now 3E certified.
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and Epic.

this thread is now 3E certified.
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My, what a mess this thread got into. And whatmore with the notorious Jayraptor around. I wonder why anybody bother to respond to him. I don't know why everytime he opens is mouth garbage just flows right out of it. He is obviously not ashamed of himself despite posting some nonsense here on this forum, after getting himself in hot soup back on the Autoworld forum. Sometimes, immature, childish, nutty and dim-witted individuals like these just drag down the level of the forums, and that is one main reasons some people don't really frequent the forums or take advice here too much.

Though I have to give a pat on the back of this fellow. Despite being not welcomed by genuine forummers here, he still doesn't realize that he is the joker here and continues to post as if he is legitimate, taking up much space on this forum with the usual crap that floods the pages. Truly thick-skinned and a disgrace. Fortunately, he isn't embarrassed of being a prick, and it is sometimes a breath of fresh air to see this clown posting some garbage for amusement after a hectic day at work.
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Out of the list, the Fiesta looks good. No to Peugeot. Proton Inspira's performance may be great but I don't like the looks, so it's out for me.


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I was aslept last night..

Okay post with proper language..

At first he says DIFF CHASSIS contribute the weight
Now he divert to rims other parts and so on. Yet so many parts he says diff but he can assure chassis diff due to the chassis

Jayraptor! You got my respect! I rest my case...

Chinese saying "Dead bite alive" .. I would says he is more kudos than that (its a complement, u shouldnt be a vet, a lawyer would be better. Or vet cum lawyer)

Im chunking my inspira !! For a forte 1.6 four speeder! Anyone wanna swap??? I give free china smell!

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 16 2013, 08:21 AM)
I was aslept last night..

Okay post with proper language..

At first he says DIFF CHASSIS contribute the weight
Now he divert to rims other parts and so on. Yet so many parts he says diff but he can assure chassis diff due to the weight!

Jayraptor! You got my respect! I rest my case...

Chinese saying "Dead bite alive" .. I would says he is more kudos than that (its a complement, u shouldnt be a vet, a lawyer would be better. Or vet cum lawyer)

Im chunking my inspira !! For a forte 1.6 four speeder! Anyone wanna swap??? I give free china smell!
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im not sure about everybody, but Im dislike the CVT gearbox, no matter whether it from Proton, Honda, Audi, etc2.

it seems like u ride a scooter.

the the cvt fluid is bit expansive than normal auto gearbox oil.
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 16 2013, 06:43 AM)
he has now gone with the smell(fart)
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 16 2013, 08:36 AM)
im not sure about everybody, but Im dislike the CVT gearbox, no matter whether it from Proton, Honda, Audi, etc2.

it seems like u ride a scooter.

the the cvt fluid is bit expansive than normal auto gearbox oil.
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CVT with manual mode would be an acceptable compromise for me personally. Won't be as sharp as a dual-clutch, but at least I have the option of reverting back to normal CVT mode for the comfort.

CVT fluid is more expensive than ATF, but the service interval is at least twice the duration of a normal AT as well, so the cost difference is not as high as you think. But if you're rich you can do as often as you like brows.gif
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Oh I know where he got 50 kg bar..

Its from his forte! biggrin.gif

Right, jayraptor? Hehe
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gi cari more professionals kot whistling.gif
CVT with manual mode would be an acceptable compromise for me personally. Won't be as sharp as a dual-clutch, but at least I have the option of reverting back to normal CVT mode for the comfort.

CVT fluid is more expensive than ATF, but the service interval is at least twice the duration of a normal AT as well, so the cost difference is not as high as you think. But if you're rich you can do as often as you like  brows.gif
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Cvt is build for comfort in the first place. Not for u to feel the G ..

**pstt not professional advice okay.
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weight? why no 1 consider mijilin driving the car... LGT got sexy japs model driving it.. inspilala got mijilin.. 50kg is nothing much lar..

Pls dun be rude to our fren J k...
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I seriously cant brain him..

He started claiming inspira many localize parts and lancer gl chassis..

We explain many mitsu parts .. major parts localize are absorber springs and anti roll bar..

He further rage tell we lies.. then he consult his so call professional fren. Whom tell him "the bar connecting left right arm" . He happily come back and says us dumb. (We actually told him the roll bar are diff in the first place)

Then he further claim the metal beam of his have 50kg weight. Nzh shown him G37 one 6.4kg.. lolzz. Then he divert to says othr parts contribute the 50kg. Initially insist the beam.

Speechless
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 16 2013, 09:08 AM)
Cvt is build for comfort in the first place. Not for u to feel the G ..

**pstt not professional advice okay.
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Not wanting to feel the G, but the occasional need for instant access to torque eg. when overtaking, then have that option lor instead of fully auto CVT like the Saga.

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 16 2013, 09:17 AM)
Not wanting to feel the G, but the occasional need for instant access to torque eg. when overtaking, then have that option lor instead of fully auto CVT like the Saga.
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The method how the GB is connected to the engine plays a big role lo. Torque convertor u will feel more sluggish but more comfort of coz more power lost
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wow~ u guys really having fun in my post man~

anyway, im looking for for the coming New Fiesta... until then only decide which one to go for~~

Inspira 2013 vs Fiesta 2014 vs Inspira 2014 (if any)
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 16 2013, 09:19 AM)
The method how the GB is connected to the engine plays a big role lo. Torque convertor u will feel more sluggish but more comfort of coz more power lost
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After experiencing 2 cars with automatic clutches....I don't mind going back to torque converter sweat.gif

But ultimately I will still wanna get back to driving a manual if I can afford a second car now. wub.gif
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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 16 2013, 09:24 AM)
wow~ u guys really having fun in my post man~

anyway, im looking for for the coming New Fiesta... until then only decide which one to go for~~

Inspira 2013 vs Fiesta 2014 vs Inspira 2014 (if any)
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Fiesta looks good bro.
U dun hope for new inspira. They going more localize. Although not on major components but reduce the capability to mode tongue.gif

Dares.. automatic clutch jerky right? But response more instant
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After experiencing 2 cars with automatic clutches....I don't mind going back to torque converter  sweat.gif

But ultimately I will still wanna get back to driving a manual if I can afford a second car now. wub.gif
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Bro u need a 1.8mt test drive?
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so, where is the 50kg?

im thinking to get a new car as well......
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so, where is the 50kg?

im thinking to get a new car as well......
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You are the dumb here. You wanted facts, I checked with professional and gave the answer from him. Yet you go mad and personal. Can't face the fact still? What else do you need? That is the part that we are debating here and you out of nowhere go and talk about the arm. Aiseh!

Talking to people like you have to use downgraded to basic English. Else, you would misinterpret and think aftermarket something else. Do you know what is swaybar?

You can go lift the BMW 5-series, Mazda 3/6, Lancer GT rear suspension METAL BAR (try not to use jargon with dumb KIASU like you) then you come and tell me how heavy. You think that Metal BAR so light? The so called lighter Torsion Beam one is not that light neither.

Then can you explain where the 50kg come from? The rims and wheels ain't that much big difference from 16" wheels neither. The spoiler? FYI, FF cars that wanted to improve handling, they would distribute more weight to the rear by adding more metal to the back. OK?
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Yes, sway bar is anti-roll bar. Even the cheap aftermarket thingy bought from kaki motor or brothers is also called anti-roll bar that is real light and fit to Wira suspension. Avoid using the word anti-roll bar or sway bar seems it led to confusion to many. Just call the bone like bar in the rear METAL BAR for the time being. How many of you really remove the entire rear suspension set and try to lift with hands for real?

By the way, despite so many disagreement, how come none ever mention where did the 50kg extra weight in Lancer GT come from? Inspira & Lancer GL are actually at the same weight at 1335kg while Lancer GT at 1385kg. Back then people said its the bodykit which is incorrect. Then they relook to the chassis, they don't find anything different between GT & GL. Exhaust pipe, resonator, catalytic convertor and manifold also not that heavy.  Where else?
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I don't think you guys realise how friggin heavy 50kg is. I can set for youa barbell with that weight and you try lifting it with one hand.
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Dares.. automatic clutch jerky right? But response more instant
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Jerky at low speeds, but like a manual GB can feel the pull more directly unlike torque converter AT.

Fiesta's dual-clutch is so-so only, no manual mode vmad.gif Not as responsive as VW's DSG either but OK la, RM85k for a dual-clutch tranny, I can live with that.

QUOTE(jnick @ Jul 16 2013, 09:40 AM)
Bro u need a 1.8mt test drive?
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 16 2013, 09:52 AM)
I don't think you guys realise how friggin heavy 50kg is. I can set for youa barbell with that weight and you try lifting it with one hand.
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my limit 40kg one hand up to waist.. but I've seen ppl lifting more than 40kg ... doing the chest press or whatever they call it.. each hand more than 40kg.. but the guy also is as big as a tree lar..
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 16 2013, 09:52 AM)
I don't think you guys realise how friggin heavy 50kg is. I can set for youa barbell with that weight and you try lifting it with one hand.
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he thinks the anti-roll-bar @ his term Metal beam is more heavier than the rim!

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for your info .. the inspira rim weight 9.8kg each .

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SORRY MR Jay .. i really do not know the little metal can weight so much notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 16 2013, 09:56 AM)
Jerky at low speeds, but like a manual GB can feel the pull more directly unlike torque converter AT.

Fiesta's dual-clutch is so-so only, no manual mode  vmad.gif Not as responsive as VW's DSG either but OK la, RM85k for a dual-clutch tranny, I can live with that.
Your car ar? I no money buy CDM busuk car now sad.gif
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QUOTE(animegod @ Jul 16 2013, 09:56 AM)
my limit 40kg one hand up to waist.. but I've seen ppl lifting more than 40kg ... doing the chest press or whatever they call it.. each hand more than 40kg.. but the guy also is as big as a tree lar..
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weaklings ... i can lift up the lancer GT anti roll bar with one hand .. up and down no problem (50 kg) .. halfcut shop selling it for 300 . rclxms.gif
LOOSER .. WEAKLINGS
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We got mr william! Per ride rm5.
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So expensib, no marny dry.gif
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Rm5 very cheap d
and of coz prc smell
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my limit 40kg one hand up to waist.. but I've seen ppl lifting more than 40kg ... doing the chest press or whatever they call it.. each hand more than 40kg.. but the guy also is as big as a tree lar..
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Got bao 1 adult pampers la ..
Rm5 very cheap d
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Wait, test drive or test ride?

jnick say test drive wor....no wonder eberiwan say jgn belip jnick whistling.gif
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Wait, test drive or test ride?

jnick say test drive wor....no wonder eberiwan say jgn belip jnick  whistling.gif
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test drive u dont get the thrill ..

test ride u might wet ur pants .. that guy is a bit sot sot one .. my ASC is only activated during emergency .. his one daily activation ... infact must activate.... drool.gif
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Wait, test drive or test ride?

jnick say test drive wor....no wonder eberiwan say jgn belip jnick  whistling.gif
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Db deadlift? You damn strong wor
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weaklings ... i can lift up the lancer GT anti roll bar with one hand .. up and down no problem (50 kg) ..  halfcut shop selling it for 300 .  rclxms.gif
LOOSER .. WEAKLINGS
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 16 2013, 10:03 AM)
Db deadlift? You damn strong wor
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i mean i can lift from ground to my waist.. that's it.. cant lift higher.. arm felt like want to break to the side... hands alot callus also..
But I've seen real big ppl do a chest press with both hands.. each heavier than 40kg.. big guy.. pants wear very high up.. looks nerdy also.... but gained my respect.. smile.gif

but still.. my master sifu above can lift 50kg arb up down on 1 hand without breaking a sweat lar.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 16 2013, 09:24 AM)
wow~ u guys really having fun in my post man~

anyway, im looking for for the coming New Fiesta... until then only decide which one to go for~~

Inspira 2013 vs Fiesta 2014 vs Inspira 2014 (if any)
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fuyo... had been so long since I came to fnf and theres still some ppl like the legendary kyheng. biggrin.gif
hi to all oldies inspira's owners(assuming u still remember me)

to ts, from ur choice, I would serious pick inspira, if u wan more fun, can get the 1.8manual inspira.

owning my inspira since 2011, it served me quite well. no major problems. just servicing every 5k. service is important when u drive like a mad person tongue.gif

from that aside, the size of inspira is bigger la, can stuff more things.
and resale value for proton is still better than ford in Malaysia. not sure why. if u don't consider this then can go for ford biggrin.gif

btw, don't stay 200km/h too long on inspira, will come out warning light tell u slow down. twice already la I had this tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cle900706 @ Jul 16 2013, 11:02 AM)
fuyo... had been so long since I came to fnf and theres still some ppl like the legendary kyheng. biggrin.gif
hi to all oldies inspira's owners(assuming u still remember me)

to ts, from ur choice, I would serious pick inspira, if u wan more fun, can get the 1.8manual inspira.

owning my inspira since 2011, it served me quite well. no major problems. just servicing every 5k. service is important when u drive like a mad person tongue.gif

from that aside, the size of inspira is bigger la, can stuff more things.
and resale value for proton is still better than ford in Malaysia. not sure why. if u don't consider this then can go for ford biggrin.gif

btw, don't stay 200km/h too long on inspira, will come out warning light tell u slow down. twice already la I had this tongue.gif
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face problem lo. My manual no such problem lol
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face problem lo. My manual no such problem lol
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face problem lo. My manual no such problem lol
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 16 2013, 12:31 AM)
where the fck u read 1385kg? that figures is 2.4L in other country
please click this link and read
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/#/car/lancer_2.0gt
and if u cant read i show u
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I KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THIS!!!!

I KNOW I KNOW

I ANSWER AH...


I dunno what mitsubishi up to .. but last time was 1385kg
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I KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THIS!!!!

I KNOW I KNOW

I ANSWER AH...
I dunno what mitsubishi up to .. but last time was 1385kg
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ASC ASC ASC


ASC ftw
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Wow, already 4 replies so far. I am glad that at least allenultra stayed professional and neutral, good job.

The rest replied with much hatred that they go personal. Why can't reply properly and fill in the blanks with hatred? You sellman or have business related to P1?

I managed to check this info from the same person who told the differences between Inspira & Lancer GT 2 years ago. Here's his reply:

When MMC & P1 signed the deal, it stated clearly, any technical parts that will lead to breakdown, engine blown, failed handling like Sylphy/Almera, or any issue that could damage MMC reputation.

The Inspira is based on the Lancer GL that can't sell well that was phased out earlier. In the assembly plant, the engine, gearbox, the suspension, electronic components/modules/sensors, interior dashboard, door panels brought in imported. The machine here does the stamping with the metal sheets imported. The rest of the parts that won't cause breakdown are done locally. Some are sub to local companies to produce the parts. Due to improper storage (space vacuum), the interior of Inspira not as fragrant as brand new Conti/Japanese/Korean cars inside. Smells like China made cars.

The P1 tuned suspension is only myth to show that they do produce something and the rear suspension is exact match of Lancer GL and not from Lancer GT.

Kerb weight:
Lancer 2.0GT 1385kg
Lancer 2.0GL 1320kg (reduced ingredient variant for 3rd nation)
Lancer 2.0GL 1335kg
Inspira 2.0 Premium 1335kg

Difference between Lancer GL & GT lies in the large METAL BAR that connects to both rear wheels arms. Relook into your replies earlier, don't know why you keep showing me the arm. Show the arm for what when people talking about the whole Multilink rear suspension? Have to use the word Metal Bar or Metal Beam or else you would refer elsewhere. Who knows, you might show me the tie rod in front in reply. That 50kg difference came from this metal bar alone. Understand? Mind you the bodykit, side skirt, & spoiler aren't heavy that even small kid could easily carry it with 1 hand. People use adhesive 2 sided tape specially for PU & fibreglass material for skirting nowadays. No more cement.

So stop saying your Inspira is Lancer GT. It's based on Lancer GL and that is why MMC willing to let P1 rebadge but under strict restriction and monitoring. This explains why Lancer GT sales still survive today. Many who can't afford new would buy used Lancer GT rather than buy that Inspira. Hassle free guaranteed thumbup.gif
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seriously, i LOL on the part highlighted in red. Korean car made your brain go kookoo iszit? doh.gif
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seriously, i LOL on the part highlighted in red. Korean car made your brain go kookoo iszit?  doh.gif
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his professional friend teach him geh
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his professional friend teach him geh
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his professional friend teach him geh
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Maybe his professional friend bring prc and start fucuk them inside the car. drool.gif So got china smells la.. icon_idea.gif
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He damn geng ...

He put so much his so call fact.. not even 1 person support him .. but he still think he is right .. lolz

Exclude those inspira owners.. those non owner also laugh at his statement.. yet he still think he is right ...
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He damn geng ...

He put so much his so call fact.. not even 1 person support him .. but he still think he is right .. lolz

Exclude those inspira owners.. those non owner also laugh at his statement.. yet he still think he is right ...
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Really cant tahan la this craptor..
U guys please reply with fact, profesional n luv.. Not with hatred , emo n ur so called photochoped fact..

mr craptor, i support u.. Shoot the liars kaw2 until they dead n the inspira kebabom ..

U really made my day.. I spent 1 hour reading all ur FACT mr craptor.. Dun believe those P1 salesman or presentative..
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TS please buy fiesta.. At least ur face value wont drop.. Ur gf, futurr mother in law wont say a thing..

I drove fiesta n inspira.. Inspira is my liking.. 140- 200km/h all the long from kl to perlis.. Stock ride..( dun have muney to pay summoned now- stepid me)
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seriously, i LOL on the part highlighted in red. Korean car made your brain go kookoo iszit?  doh.gif
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Bro, please don't laugh... It may sounds funny but true....
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Bro, please don't laugh... It may sounds funny but true....
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If going by smell, then Peugeot wins.

But I voted Prius (mainly cause my sniffing skills not as good as JayRaptor's) because its closely related to Vios... and we all know how godly Vios is...
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If inspira I will vote for 1.8 manual, manual is the real passion of real man driving( if u do not mind while on the bad traffic)
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panties smell which car got? I want buy.
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panties smell which car got? I want buy.
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panties smell which car got? I want buy.
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MIA?
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sniffing for car la..

i think we should blind fold him .. then bring him to show room .. push him into a car.. ask him tell what car isit .. blush.gif
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sniffing for car la..

i think we should blind fold him .. then bring him to show room .. push him into a car.. ask him tell what car isit ..  blush.gif
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sniffing for car la..

i think we should blind fold him .. then bring him to show room .. push him into a car.. ask him tell what car isit ..  blush.gif
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Blind-fold him
push him into NzH car

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Blind-fold him
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Blind-fold him
push him into NzH car

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 12:26 AM)
Don't change the specs. Lancer GT declared kerb weight is 1385kg in here, in West Asia, in US and in Japan. Inspira and Lancer GL kerb weight at 1335kg. Stick to facts. Don't reply if you are here to stir trouble rather than car talk.
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FCK U LA....
how do i change the specs??
u got problem to read ??

mitsubishi malaysia official website
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/#/car/lancer_2.0gt
user posted image

proton edar website
http://proton-edar.com.my/Experience/Model...82%29.aspx#info
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now, dumb arse, show me where u get the 1335 and 1385 figures? whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 16 2013, 07:48 PM)
FCK U LA....
how do i change the specs??
u got problem to read ??

mitsubishi malaysia official website
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/#/car/lancer_2.0gt
user posted image

proton edar website
http://proton-edar.com.my/Experience/Model...82%29.aspx#info
user posted image

now, dumb arse, show me where u get the 1335 and 1385 figures?  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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fck u la.. You go and hack the mitsubishi website ah..vmad.gif
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 16 2013, 07:48 PM)
FCK U LA....
how do i change the specs??
u got problem to read ??

mitsubishi malaysia official website
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/#/car/lancer_2.0gt
user posted image

proton edar website
http://proton-edar.com.my/Experience/Model...82%29.aspx#info
user posted image

now, dumb arse, show me where u get the 1335 and 1385 figures?  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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user posted image

nah
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 16 2013, 09:27 PM)
user posted image
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nah
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See! Jay Crap is correct!! And you all no believe him!
Btw, my tires Continental, so my car should smell half Conti, half China ah?
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user posted image
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Dhey 1385 behind put (50kg metal bar)
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See! Jay Crap is correct!! And you all no believe him!
Btw, my tires Continental, so my car should smell half Conti, half China ah?
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 16 2013, 09:41 PM)
Dhey 1385 behind put (50kg metal bar)
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 14 2013, 05:37 PM)
Wow, already 4 replies so far. I am glad that at least allenultra stayed professional and neutral, good job.

The rest replied with much hatred that they go personal. Why can't reply properly and fill in the blanks with hatred? You sellman or have business related to P1?

I managed to check this info from the same person who told the differences between Inspira & Lancer GT 2 years ago. Here's his reply:

When MMC & P1 signed the deal, it stated clearly, any technical parts that will lead to breakdown, engine blown, failed handling like Sylphy/Almera, or any issue that could damage MMC reputation.

The Inspira is based on the Lancer GL that can't sell well that was phased out earlier. In the assembly plant, the engine, gearbox, the suspension, electronic components/modules/sensors, interior dashboard, door panels brought in imported. The machine here does the stamping with the metal sheets imported. The rest of the parts that won't cause breakdown are done locally. Some are sub to local companies to produce the parts. Due to improper storage (space vacuum), the interior of Inspira not as fragrant as brand new Conti/Japanese/Korean cars inside. Smells like China made cars.

The P1 tuned suspension is only myth to show that they do produce something and the rear suspension is exact match of Lancer GL and not from Lancer GT.

Kerb weight:
Lancer 2.0GT 1385kg
Lancer 2.0GL 1320kg (reduced ingredient variant for 3rd nation)
Lancer 2.0GL 1335kg
Inspira 2.0 Premium 1335kg

Difference between Lancer GL & GT lies in the large METAL BAR that connects to both rear wheels arms. Relook into your replies earlier, don't know why you keep showing me the arm. Show the arm for what when people talking about the whole Multilink rear suspension? Have to use the word Metal Bar or Metal Beam or else you would refer elsewhere. Who knows, you might show me the tie rod in front in reply. That 50kg difference came from this metal bar alone. Understand? Mind you the bodykit, side skirt, & spoiler aren't heavy that even small kid could easily carry it with 1 hand. People use adhesive 2 sided tape specially for PU & fibreglass material for skirting nowadays. No more cement.

So stop saying your Inspira is Lancer GT. It's based on Lancer GL and that is why MMC willing to let P1 rebadge but under strict restriction and monitoring. This explains why Lancer GT sales still survive today. Many who can't afford new would buy used Lancer GT rather than buy that Inspira. Hassle free guaranteed thumbup.gif
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Bro, do u mean I need to install the 50kg metal bar to my coming soon inspira to become lancer gt chasis? Could u give me source to buy this parts? Need it asap b4 my car come out so I can install it once I get my key, thx

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 16 2013, 12:31 AM)
where the fck u read 1385kg? that figures is 2.4L in other country
please click this link and read
mitsubishi malaysia official website
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.my/#/car/lancer_2.0gt
and if u cant read i show u
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Refer back ori Lancer GT specs from 2007 to 2011. Whatever crap specs you posted, probably due to revised P1 protection from 2011 or 2012 onwards, local MMC being forced to downgrade their Lancer GT.

The Lancer GT kerb weight is 1385kg whereas the Lancer 2.4 hatchback at 1415kg. The few of you with signature promoting P1 Inspira specs list and parts list are likely to rely on Inspira sales for income. You bunch are nothing more than parasites wanted to degrade the Lancer and attempt to steal more sales from MMC Lancer GT.

The final verdict, still proven:
Inspira has more local made parts, suspension & handling no match against Lancer GT and also no VSC.

You want to talk about chassis number, mind you, even the Triton pickup, different variant come with slightly different chassis number. They do that to allow people to find out whether that chassis is originally fitted with which engine and if that chassis has changed engine, people can find out. Lancer GL & GT, the chassis are the same. Difference on suspension and interior trim. Talk about build quality, even the Lancer GL is higher quality than Inspira. So stop spreading lies to cheat buyers here.

Dear all genuine readers, forumners and carbuyers,

Don't trust these bunch of cheaters. They could easily outnumber genuine forumners by using few accounts each of them as they have whole day as it is part of their jobs. Look for facts and don't be fooled by their lies. Expect them to divert attention elsewhere. Don't give these unethical marketing & sales staff any face. All they care is their own profit. Nothing to do with public interest.

This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 16 2013, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 11:42 PM)
Refer back ori Lancer GT specs from 2007 to 2011. Whatever crap specs you posted, probably due to revised P1 protection from 2011 or 2012 onwards, local MMC being forced to downgrade their Lancer GT.

The Lancer GT kerb weight is 1385kg whereas the Lancer 2.4 hatchback at 1415kg. The few of you with signature promoting P1 Inspira specs list and parts list are likely to rely on Inspira sales for income. You bunch are nothing more than parasites wanted to degrade the Lancer and attempt to steal more sales from MMC Lancer GT. 

The final verdict, still proven:
Inspira has more local made parts, suspension & handling no match against Lancer GT and also no VSC.

You want to talk about chassis number, mind you, even the Triton pickup, different variant come with slightly different chassis number. They do that to allow people to find out whether that chassis is originally fitted with which engine and if that chassis has changed engine, people can find out. Lancer GL & GT, the chassis are the same. Difference on suspension and interior trim. Talk about build quality, even the Lancer GL is higher quality than Inspira. So stop spreading lies to cheat buyers here.

Dear all genuine readers, forumners and carbuyers,

Don't trust these bunch of cheaters. They could easily outnumber genuine forumners by using few accounts each of them as they have whole day as it is part of their jobs. Look for facts and don't be fooled by their lies. Expect them to divert attention elsewhere. Don't give these unethical marketing & sales staff any face. All they care is their own profit. Nothing to do with public interest.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 11:42 PM)
Refer back ori Lancer GT specs from 2007 to 2011. Whatever crap specs you posted, probably due to revised P1 protection from 2011 or 2012 onwards, local MMC being forced to downgrade their Lancer GT.

The Lancer GT kerb weight is 1385kg whereas the Lancer 2.4 hatchback at 1415kg. The few of you with signature promoting P1 Inspira specs list and parts list are likely to rely on Inspira sales for income. You bunch are nothing more than parasites wanted to degrade the Lancer and attempt to steal more sales from MMC Lancer GT. 

The final verdict, still proven:
Inspira has more local made parts, suspension & handling no match against Lancer GT and also no VSC.

You want to talk about chassis number, mind you, even the Triton pickup, different variant come with slightly different chassis number. They do that to allow people to find out whether that chassis is originally fitted with which engine and if that chassis has changed engine, people can find out. Lancer GL & GT, the chassis are the same. Difference on suspension and interior trim. Talk about build quality, even the Lancer GL is higher quality than Inspira. So stop spreading lies to cheat buyers here.

Dear all genuine readers, forumners and carbuyers,

Don't trust these bunch of cheaters. They could easily outnumber genuine forumners by using few accounts each of them as they have whole day as it is part of their jobs. Look for facts and don't be fooled by their lies. Expect them to divert attention elsewhere. Don't give these unethical marketing & sales staff any face. All they care is their own profit. Nothing to do with public interest.
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wahahahaha laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif looks!who is talking here! all time cheater call us cheaters here .... innocent.gif

all the thing u pointed out ,and all those figures u got , cannot prove, yet calling us cheater ....

tell u what dumb arse, u dont even know the lancer gt spec in malaysia, it got no ASC or VSC u called it, only sportback does.

so again, FCK U LA! rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 11:42 PM)
Refer back ori Lancer GT specs from 2007 to 2011. Whatever crap specs you posted, probably due to revised P1 protection from 2011 or 2012 onwards, local MMC being forced to downgrade their Lancer GT.

The Lancer GT kerb weight is 1385kg whereas the Lancer 2.4 hatchback at 1415kg. The few of you with signature promoting P1 Inspira specs list and parts list are likely to rely on Inspira sales for income. You bunch are nothing more than parasites wanted to degrade the Lancer and attempt to steal more sales from MMC Lancer GT. 

The final verdict, still proven:
Inspira has more local made parts, suspension & handling no match against Lancer GT and also no VSC.

You want to talk about chassis number, mind you, even the Triton pickup, different variant come with slightly different chassis number. They do that to allow people to find out whether that chassis is originally fitted with which engine and if that chassis has changed engine, people can find out. Lancer GL & GT, the chassis are the same. Difference on suspension and interior trim. Talk about build quality, even the Lancer GL is higher quality than Inspira. So stop spreading lies to cheat buyers here.

Dear all genuine readers, forumners and carbuyers,

Don't trust these bunch of cheaters. They could easily outnumber genuine forumners by using few accounts each of them as they have whole day as it is part of their jobs. Look for facts and don't be fooled by their lies. Expect them to divert attention elsewhere. Don't give these unethical marketing & sales staff any face. All they care is their own profit. Nothing to do with public interest.
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ok since you said inspira had more local part
please elaborate the "more" thank you

btw even wiki cannot find your so call 1385kg kerb weight

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Lancer

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 16 2013, 11:49 PM)
ok since you said inspira had more local part
please elaborate the "more" thank you

btw even wiki cannot find your so call 1385kg kerb weight

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Lancer
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 16 2013, 11:52 PM)
haiya...no need la..spare us of his smelly crap
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 16 2013, 11:49 PM)
ok since you said inspira had more local part
please elaborate the "more" thank you

btw even wiki cannot find your so call 1385kg kerb weight

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Lancer
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P1 force wiki to write like that 1 lah!! mad.gif mad.gif
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u tot my car smells like ur Kimchi car meh????
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 11:42 PM)
Refer back ori Lancer GT specs from 2007 to 2011. Whatever crap specs you posted, probably due to revised P1 protection from 2011 or 2012 onwards, local MMC being forced to downgrade their Lancer GT.

The Lancer GT kerb weight is 1385kg whereas the Lancer 2.4 hatchback at 1415kg. The few of you with signature promoting P1 Inspira specs list and parts list are likely to rely on Inspira sales for income. You bunch are nothing more than parasites wanted to degrade the Lancer and attempt to steal more sales from MMC Lancer GT. 

The final verdict, still proven:
Inspira has more local made parts, suspension & handling no match against Lancer GT and also no VSC.

You want to talk about chassis number, mind you, even the Triton pickup, different variant come with slightly different chassis number. They do that to allow people to find out whether that chassis is originally fitted with which engine and if that chassis has changed engine, people can find out. Lancer GL & GT, the chassis are the same. Difference on suspension and interior trim. Talk about build quality, even the Lancer GL is higher quality than Inspira. So stop spreading lies to cheat buyers here.

Dear all genuine readers, forumners and carbuyers,

Don't trust these bunch of cheaters. They could easily outnumber genuine forumners by using few accounts each of them as they have whole day as it is part of their jobs. Look for facts and don't be fooled by their lies. Expect them to divert attention elsewhere. Don't give these unethical marketing & sales staff any face. All they care is their own profit. Nothing to do with public interest.
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if i were you, i would have stop posting to make a big joke out of yourself, whoever you are. dont make me go nitpick every posts of yours in here like how i used to long long time ago. stop humiliating yourself. smile.gif
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If u dun mind I will teach u how to read chasis number

To start with
CY4ATXXXX000000

CY4A define its a lancer 2.0 engine 4B11
The T behind stands for cvt transmission

The XXXX I show is the variant
The number behind are chassis

There are 5 more digit infront JXxxx to identify which plant it come from

For instance
CY1AR 4A92 1.6 Dohc 4 speed auto
CY2AR 4A91 1.5 Dohc 4 speed auto
CY3AN 4B10 1.8 Dohc 5 speed mt
CY3AT 4B10 1.8 DOhc CVT
CY4AN 4B11 2.0 DOHC 5MT
CY4AT 4B11 2.0 DOHC CVT
CY5AN 4B12 2.4 DOHC 5MT
CY5AT 4B12 2.4 DOHC CVT
CY6AT 4J10 1.8 SOHC CVT
CY8AN 4N13 diesel 6MT

CX for sportsback
CZ for evo

Now show me which chassis no dun tell me the variant
U dunno how to read doesnt mean it dont tell
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Huh?? Means wat now? Inspira same body chasis design with lancer gt or not? If only different at the metal bar, I wan to buy it, but please tell me to get, I cant find th kind of weight from local sparepart shop. If same body, I can use the money to buy other parts mellow.gif
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 16 2013, 11:48 PM)
wahahahaha  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif looks!who is talking here! all time cheater call us cheaters here ....  innocent.gif

all the thing u pointed out ,and all those figures u got , cannot prove, yet calling us cheater ....

tell u what dumb arse, u dont even know the lancer gt spec in malaysia, it got no ASC or VSC u called it, only sportback does.

so again, FCK U LA!  rolleyes.gif
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The Inspira is based on Lancer GL platform in 2010 and it is still using the same chassis & tech today. Lancer GT in 2010 has kerb weight of 1385kg. In Thailand, they still have the actual GT. Refer this website you parasite.

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.th/th/Lanc...X/GT/Price-Spec

น้ำหนักโดยประมาณ (กก.) = kerb weight : 1,375kg (10kg less but the catalogue stating 1385kg. The catalog from West Asia country for GT stated 1385kg. The same goes to our catalog and website dated back in 2010 as 1385kg.

Time to teach you bunch of parasites some lesson. Wikipedia is known to miss out the kerb weight for many make/models. Some even didn't specify torque and some no RPM. Sort of non-standardised.

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VSC tu pelanjiao?


Mitsubiji or Plotong got VSC geh meh?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:01 AM)
The Inspira is based on Lancer GL platform in 2010 and it is still using the same chassis & tech today. Lancer GT in 2010 has kerb weight of 1385kg. In Thailand, they still have the actual GT. Refer this website you parasite.

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.th/th/Lanc...X/GT/Price-Spec

น้ำหนักโดยประมาณ (กก.)  = kerb weight :    1,375kg (10kg less but the catalogue stating 1385kg. The catalog from West Asia country for GT stated 1385kg. The same goes to our catalog and website dated back in 2010 as 1385kg.

Time to teach you bunch of parasites some lesson. Wikipedia is known to miss out the kerb weight for many make/models. Some even didn't specify torque and some no RPM. Sort of non-standardised.
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I got it!! Lancer Gt malaysia is using lancer GL chassis d!!!!!coz weight less d...

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Sorry.bro I cant read thai, our msia lancer gt same spec with other country? I just wan to have same body.design with.our msia lancer gt, and u say metal bar different, so I wan to buy it, contacted few supplier even VANLI could not get the 50kg metal bar for me

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QUOTE(dreamsquall @ Jul 17 2013, 12:09 AM)
Sorry.bro I cant read thai,  our msia lancer gt same spec with other country? I just wan to have same body.design with.our msia lancer gt, and u say metal bar different, so I wan to buy it, contacted few supplier even VANLI could not get the 50kg metal bar for me
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I think his torsion beam also cant reach 50kg...
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:01 AM)
The Inspira is based on Lancer GL platform in 2010 and it is still using the same chassis & tech today. Lancer GT in 2010 has kerb weight of 1385kg. In Thailand, they still have the actual GT. Refer this website you parasite.

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.th/th/Lanc...X/GT/Price-Spec

น้ำหนักโดยประมาณ (กก.)  = kerb weight :    1,375kg (10kg less but the catalogue stating 1385kg. The catalog from West Asia country for GT stated 1385kg. The same goes to our catalog and website dated back in 2010 as 1385kg.

Time to teach you bunch of parasites some lesson. Wikipedia is known to miss out the kerb weight for many make/models. Some even didn't specify torque and some no RPM. Sort of non-standardised.
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Where is the 50kg metal bar?
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I got it!! Lancer Gt malaysia is using lancer GL chassis d!!!!!coz weight less d...
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Autoworld still have the old writeup article dated back in 2012, the specs at that time still the same as the ori '07 2.0GT. Take this you bunch of parasites!!

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/newcar/car_...T.AM.VHC.NC.SDN

So do you believe now? The chassis of Lancer GT & GL are the same. The reason for slightly different chassis number is to allow people to identify that chassis belong to which variant under which engine and transmission for various identification purpose. MMC done that as many Lancer owners would change engines, some to EVO. Also, to prevent fraud should a normal Lancer converted to EVO sold to buyer at wrong price.

The current Lancer GT, engine got detuned to Lancer GL. The rear suspension either the same or got downgraded a bit. The weight reduction could also be caused by use of new material? Unknown at the moment. Fact is, the Lancer GT is still superior than Inspira in several aspects as mentioned earlier.


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Oh my god.. Mitsubishi australia also migrated their lancer to GL chassis.. Im using phone.. Mobile site..
Fuiyoh even the vrx @ 2.4 engine version have the same weight as inspira at 1360!
The 1335 is for manual gearbox maybe using wira chassis
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:17 AM)
Autoworld still have the old writeup article dated back in 2012, the specs at that time still the same as the ori '07 2.0GT. Take this you bunch of parasites!!

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/newcar/car_...T.AM.VHC.NC.SDN

So do you believe now? The chassis of Lancer GT & GL are the same. The reason for slightly different chassis number is to allow people to identify that chassis belong to which variant under which engine and transmission for various identification purpose. MMC done that as many Lancer owners would change engines, some to EVO. Also, to prevent fraud should a normal Lancer converted to EVO sold to buyer at wrong price.

The current Lancer GT, engine got detuned to Lancer GL. The rear suspension either the same or got downgraded a bit. The weight reduction could also be caused by use of new material? Unknown at the moment. Fact is, the Lancer GT is still superior than Inspira in several aspects as mentioned earlier.
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eH I suggest u dig out the wira 1993 article la.. Should be quite interesting!

Ppl show u everything on the current website u still wanna dig old story out.. U insisted the chassis diff now u mention juz suspension.. And we been telling u many thing contributing to the weight and u juz dun wan listen.. Ok give u somemore tips.. Go mitsu malaysia look at the wheel. It has been change.. Its now light weight..

Dumb head u get it already o not? Is thr same chassis.. Lancer GT 2007 n 2013 samw chassis.. Suspension same.. They reduce weight else where..like we are trying to tell u .. Inspira same chassis with lancer GT. And GT same chassis with GLS. Vrx es.. De ... Understand or not
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:17 AM)
Autoworld still have the old writeup article dated back in 2012, the specs at that time still the same as the ori '07 2.0GT. Take this you bunch of parasites!!

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/newcar/car_...T.AM.VHC.NC.SDN

So do you believe now? The chassis of Lancer GT & GL are the same. The reason for slightly different chassis number is to allow people to identify that chassis belong to which variant under which engine and transmission for various identification purpose. MMC done that as many Lancer owners would change engines, some to EVO. Also, to prevent fraud should a normal Lancer converted to EVO sold to buyer at wrong price.

The current Lancer GT, engine got detuned to Lancer GL. The rear suspension either the same or got downgraded a bit. The weight reduction could also be caused by use of new material? Unknown at the moment. Fact is, the Lancer GT is still superior than Inspira in several aspects as mentioned earlier.
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fck u la, all these cocking again. now u said the gt and gl chasis are the same, some the the rear suspension got few grades??? show me the proof la dhey.... dont cocking like all u-say-so and u-know-it-all whistling.gif whistling.gif
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the 50kg metal bar downgraded jorrr ahhh?

downgraded to how many kg?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:17 AM)
Autoworld still have the old writeup article dated back in 2012, the specs at that time still the same as the ori '07 2.0GT. Take this you bunch of parasites!!

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/newcar/car_...T.AM.VHC.NC.SDN

So do you believe now? The chassis of Lancer GT & GL are the same. The reason for slightly different chassis number is to allow people to identify that chassis belong to which variant under which engine and transmission for various identification purpose. MMC done that as many Lancer owners would change engines, some to EVO. Also, to prevent fraud should a normal Lancer converted to EVO sold to buyer at wrong price.

The current Lancer GT, engine got detuned to Lancer GL. The rear suspension either the same or got downgraded a bit. The weight reduction could also be caused by use of new material? Unknown at the moment. Fact is, the Lancer GT is still superior than Inspira in several aspects as mentioned earlier.
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so u mean now the GT's are fake ones???? shocking.gif shocking.gif
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Day one.. I wanted to tell you (mr jayraptor) ur so call GL and GT chassis same.. U denied

I tell u many mitsu parts .. U denied
I tell u same engine diff tuning .. U denied

Now u says GL n GT same chassis
Now u says GT detuned
Now u says many mitsuparts.. But smell like china !

U good man .. U are our idol..
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 11:42 PM)
Dear all genuine readers, forumners and carbuyers,

Don't trust these bunch of cheaters. They could easily outnumber genuine forumners by using few accounts each of them as they have whole day as it is part of their jobs. Look for facts and don't be fooled by their lies. Expect them to divert attention elsewhere. Don't give these unethical marketing & sales staff any face. All they care is their own profit. Nothing to do with public interest.
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Dear Jayraptor, I have been around for about 2 years plus. Go ahead, go search my posts in the FnF threads, I don't own an Inspira, nor have I ever met these "jokers". I don't even own a Proton anymore, yet I have lurked in their thread (among other car club threads) for as long as I have been on the FnF section, so I am familiar with some personalities in that club even though I don't know their faces.

All I can say is, I am more ready to believe that you are a Kimchi salesman more than I will ever believe any of them work in Proton marketing & sales. All I know about you is that you proclaim yourself to be famous in AW.

The burden of proof is on you if you wanna accuse them to be Proton salesman. In the meantime, it's kinda public knowledge that you are a bit of a joke at the AW forums.
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QUOTE(ngjx @ Jul 17 2013, 12:26 AM)
so u mean now the GT's are fake ones???? shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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wat he mean is that lancer GT assemble in japan, so during assembling , got japanese fart in the car, so it smell better. so it better than inspira in EVERY aspect, but still cannot beat his goldlike forte 1.6 4sp auto wheres better than forte 2.0 ok

UNDERSTAND???? whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif


out, lazy argue with cow, cause he even open new ID in AW to claim that we owners are sales man

source : http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?sh...c=105100&st=349

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JOLOKIA AND KAYLCAR AND JAYRAPTOR ARE SUPERIOR TO LWYT "FAST AND FURIOUS" EDISON1437, K3NNYKL82, FADZLY, KADAJAWI, KATIJAR
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YOUR TALKS AT LEAST HAVE SOME MATURITY. THE LWYT JOKERS ARE SO CHILDISHLY AGRO WHEN ANYBODY PUT UP COMPLAINTS ABOUT A CAR MODEL THEY ARE SELLING.
why i said so?? cause only he calling other people as salesman whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:17 AM)
Autoworld still have the old writeup article dated back in 2012, the specs at that time still the same as the ori '07 2.0GT. Take this you bunch of parasites!!

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/newcar/car_...T.AM.VHC.NC.SDN

So do you believe now? The chassis of Lancer GT & GL are the same. The reason for slightly different chassis number is to allow people to identify that chassis belong to which variant under which engine and transmission for various identification purpose. MMC done that as many Lancer owners would change engines, some to EVO. Also, to prevent fraud should a normal Lancer converted to EVO sold to buyer at wrong price.

The current Lancer GT, engine got detuned to Lancer GL. The rear suspension either the same or got downgraded a bit. The weight reduction could also be caused by use of new material? Unknown at the moment. Fact is, the Lancer GT is still superior than Inspira in several aspects as mentioned earlier.
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The conclusion you are trying to say the chassis now is....

Lancer GT = Lancer GL

previously you said, Lancer GL = Inspira

my math teacher says Lancer GT = Inspira

is this correct? blink.gif
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 17 2013, 12:23 AM)
fck u la, all these cocking again. now u said the gt and gl chasis are the same, some the the rear suspension got few grades??? show me the proof la dhey.... dont cocking like all u-say-so and u-know-it-all  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Now that the truth prevailed, you bunch of parasites attempted to turn and divert attention elsewhere.

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/newcar/car_...T.AM.VHC.NC.SDN

Have to thank Gunner for keeping the old articles. Still refuse to bow? You can't even explain the 50kg difference yet dare to challenge. Can you post link to your credit card details? Some things are P&C that like you, the carmakers don't share. Only way to find out is to get a job there that can access the info. You can check with your assembly plant higher tech level guys and also MMC higher tech level guys for more details. Understand?

The chassis for GL, GT and Inspira dimension & angles are the same. You fit Lancer GT dash, interior, suspension, engine tuning into the GL chassis, it will weigh heavier than Inspira kerb weight. You take everything from Inspira and fit them to empty GT chassis, the kerb weight will only be 1335kg and no where close to 1385kg, not even 1360kg unless you add in sandbags or put you yourself in. People already check the GL vs GT comparison where you bunch are still marketing Wajunk.

Forgot to inform you, my favourite sedan in 2007 was the Lancer GL sold at affordable RM107k at that time imported CBU from Japan in limited batches.


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Refer back ori Lancer GT specs from 2007 to 2011. Whatever crap specs you posted, probably due to revised P1 protection from 2011 or 2012 onwards, local MMC being forced to downgrade their Lancer GT.

The Lancer GT kerb weight is 1385kg whereas the Lancer 2.4 hatchback at 1415kg. The few of you with signature promoting P1 Inspira specs list and parts list are likely to rely on Inspira sales for income. You bunch are nothing more than parasites wanted to degrade the Lancer and attempt to steal more sales from MMC Lancer GT. 

The final verdict, still proven:
Inspira has more local made parts, suspension & handling no match against Lancer GT and also no VSC.

You want to talk about chassis number, mind you, even the Triton pickup, different variant come with slightly different chassis number. They do that to allow people to find out whether that chassis is originally fitted with which engine and if that chassis has changed engine, people can find out. Lancer GL & GT, the chassis are the same. Difference on suspension and interior trim. Talk about build quality, even the Lancer GL is higher quality than Inspira. So stop spreading lies to cheat buyers here.

Dear all genuine readers, forumners and carbuyers,

Don't trust these bunch of cheaters. They could easily outnumber genuine forumners by using few accounts each of them as they have whole day as it is part of their jobs. Look for facts and don't be fooled by their lies. Expect them to divert attention elsewhere. Don't give these unethical marketing & sales staff any face. All they care is their own profit. Nothing to do with public interest.
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bang..mana drill of 50 kg bar...

still tok kok but no proves so far...

So, who is cheater?
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Now that the truth prevailed, you bunch of parasites attempted to turn and divert attention elsewhere.

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/newcar/car_...T.AM.VHC.NC.SDN

Have to thank Gunner for keeping the old articles. Still refuse to bow? You can't even explain the 50kg difference yet dare to challenge. Can you post link to your credit card details? Some things are P&C that like you, the carmakers don't share. Only way to find out is to get a job there that can access the info. You can check with your assembly plant higher tech level guys and also MMC higher tech level guys for more details. Understand?

The chassis for GL, GT and Inspira dimension & angles are the same. You fit Lancer GT dash, interior, suspension, engine tuning into the GL chassis, it will weigh heavier than Inspira kerb weight. You take everything from Inspira and fit them to empty GT chassis, the kerb weight will only be 1335kg and no where close to 1385kg, not even 1360kg unless you add in sandbags or put you yourself in. People already check the GL vs GT comparison where you bunch are still marketing Wajunk.

Forgot to inform you, my favourite sedan in 2007 was the Lancer GL sold at affordable RM107k at that time imported CBU from Japan in limited batches.
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Why no we do a proof la.. Buy lancer GT 2013 .. Buy inspira 2.0P
We strip the car off ...everything...
Loser pay for both the car price 125k + 86k (inspira 2.0E)
Since u are so confident the chassis different

When I says everything I mean everyhing down to the bone.. See the chassis got diff or not

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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 17 2013, 12:33 AM)
The conclusion you are trying to say the chassis now is....

Lancer GT = Lancer GL

previously you said, Lancer GL = Inspira

my math teacher says Lancer GT = Inspira

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Lancer GL or GT, the difference lies in the grill, dashboard trim, suspension and engine tuning. Also GT has full bodykit. Elsewhere, they have Lancer GLS that is the GL with added bodykit but kerb weight remain at 1335kg as the addition doesn't weigh more than 1kg. In terms of handling, GL or GLS can't match Lancer GT as done by group of enthusiasts in Thailand. Woot woot.... Inspira is based on Lancer GL's tech, therfore, it can't match Lancer GT neither. Elsewhere, the Lancer GL comes with VSC therefore, Inspira can't beat GL neither.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:36 AM)
Now that the truth prevailed, you bunch of parasites attempted to turn and divert attention elsewhere.

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/newcar/car_...T.AM.VHC.NC.SDN

Have to thank Gunner for keeping the old articles. Still refuse to bow? You can't even explain the 50kg difference yet dare to challenge. Can you post link to your credit card details? Some things are P&C that like you, the carmakers don't share. Only way to find out is to get a job there that can access the info. You can check with your assembly plant higher tech level guys and also MMC higher tech level guys for more details. Understand?

The chassis for GL, GT and Inspira dimension & angles are the same. You fit Lancer GT dash, interior, suspension, engine tuning into the GL chassis, it will weigh heavier than Inspira kerb weight. You take everything from Inspira and fit them to empty GT chassis, the kerb weight will only be 1335kg and no where close to 1385kg, not even 1360kg unless you add in sandbags or put you yourself in. People already check the GL vs GT comparison where you bunch are still marketing Wajunk.

Forgot to inform you, my favourite sedan in 2007 was the Lancer GL sold at affordable RM107k at that time imported CBU from Japan in limited batches.
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only u yourself BELIEVE got 50kg different,
inspira 2.0P 1350 dumb arse
yet a sorhai choose to believe that AW copy and paste from somewhere instead of offcial website from malaysia notworthy.gif

yes 1375 figures from thailand website are true, u know the spec got much different?

HID headlamp
keyless entry system
18 inch Wheel
294mm rotor (inspira 276mm,first batch lancer 294, after that all 276mm)
afs
auto leveling
all absent on inspira,you think these thing feather weight like? whistling.gif whistling.gif

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Lancer GL or GT, the difference lies in the grill, dashboard trim, suspension and engine tuning. Also GT has full bodykit. Elsewhere, they have Lancer GLS that is the GL with added bodykit but kerb weight remain at 1335kg as the addition doesn't weigh more than 1kg. In terms of handling, GL or GLS can't match Lancer GT as done by group of enthusiasts in Thailand. Woot woot.... Inspira is based on Lancer GL's tech, therfore, it can't match Lancer GT neither. Elsewhere, the Lancer GL comes with VSC therefore, Inspira can't beat GL neither.
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Please do check ur article where did u see lancer comes with Vsc (ASC if u dunno mitsu call it )
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:40 AM)
Lancer GL or GT, the difference lies in the grill, dashboard trim, suspension and engine tuning. Also GT has full bodykit. Elsewhere, they have Lancer GLS that is the GL with added bodykit but kerb weight remain at 1335kg as the addition doesn't weigh more than 1kg. In terms of handling, GL or GLS can't match Lancer GT as done by group of enthusiasts in Thailand. Woot woot.... Inspira is based on Lancer GL's tech, therfore, it can't match Lancer GT neither. Elsewhere, the Lancer GL comes with VSC therefore, Inspira can't beat GL neither.
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fck u ,u dumb arse
only toyota called it VSC
mitsubishi call it ASC

please show me the "lancer GL comes with VSC" that u mentioned in malaysia
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:40 AM)
Lancer GL or GT, the difference lies in the grill, dashboard trim, suspension and engine tuning. Also GT has full bodykit. Elsewhere, they have Lancer GLS that is the GL with added bodykit but kerb weight remain at 1335kg as the addition doesn't weigh more than 1kg. In terms of handling, GL or GLS can't match Lancer GT as done by group of enthusiasts in Thailand. Woot woot.... Inspira is based on Lancer GL's tech, therfore, it can't match Lancer GT neither. Elsewhere, the Lancer GL comes with VSC therefore, Inspira can't beat GL neither.
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Since when Mitsu got VSC
BODOH

We use ASC, you Fck-face
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Please visit mitsubishi-motors.com.my
Get ur facts correct before u make up story please

Lancer GT does not comes with ASC (VSC)
Lancer sportnack only have ASC
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fck u ,u dumb arse
only toyota called it VSC
mitsubishi call it ASC

please show me the "lancer GL comes with VSC" that u mentioned in malaysia
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As expected, you bunch of parasites will be hunger for fault finding on anything minor you can find. VSC, ASC, VSA, their function to prevent understeer and oversteer with counter braking. As mentioned earlier, you can choose to add in weight personally.

People talking taking tech parts from Lancer GT and fit into Lancer GL, it could reach 1385kg. Inspira premium, what do they add in for the weight? Beras Wangi?
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Get ur facts correct before u make up story please

Lancer GT does not comes with ASC (VSC)
Lancer sportnack only have ASC
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dont use local website la!! our local GT being downgraded jor!! hence it not ori liao!! mad.gif
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Woiiiiii

but horrr

my Inspira got ASC geh???
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As expected, you bunch of parasites will be hunger for fault finding on anything minor you can find. VSC, ASC, VSA, their function to prevent understeer and oversteer with counter braking. As mentioned earlier, you can choose to add in weight personally.

People talking taking tech parts from Lancer GT and fit into Lancer GL, it could reach 1385kg. Inspira premium, what do they add in for the weight? Beras Wangi?
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yeah yeah yeah tech part, anti roll bar right??? weight 50kg right??? okok boss.....

lolz
sounds like u know everything in ALL car makers company

U FORTE SALES MAN whistling.gif whistling.gif


show me the tech part u mention la , fck u dumb arse
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:54 AM)
As expected, you bunch of parasites will be hunger for fault finding on anything minor you can find. VSC, ASC, VSA, their function to prevent understeer and oversteer with counter braking. As mentioned earlier, you can choose to add in weight personally.

People talking taking tech parts from Lancer GT and fit into Lancer GL, it could reach 1385kg. Inspira premium, what do they add in for the weight? Beras Wangi?
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Wrong jorrr still wanna pick up a handful of sand

CLAP CLAP CLAP
bodoh

Where is the fcking 50kg metal bar?
till now still evading, twisting ur ways out

dumb-arse jayraptor


opps
i mean Dumb-arse jayCraptor
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:54 AM)
As expected, you bunch of parasites will be hunger for fault finding on anything minor you can find. VSC, ASC, VSA, their function to prevent understeer and oversteer with counter braking. As mentioned earlier, you can choose to add in weight personally.

People talking taking tech parts from Lancer GT and fit into Lancer GL, it could reach 1385kg. Inspira premium, what do they add in for the weight? Beras Wangi?
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U bunch of proton sales man whistling.gif whistling.gif
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yeah yeah yeah tech part, anti roll bar right??? weight 50kg right??? okok boss.....

lolz
sounds like u know everything in ALL car makers company

U FORTE SALES MAN  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
show me the tech part u mention la , fck u dumb arse
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it's a metal bar

ti.u lei
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As expected, you bunch of parasites will be hunger for fault finding on anything minor you can find. VSC, ASC, VSA, their function to prevent understeer and oversteer with counter braking. As mentioned earlier, you can choose to add in weight personally.

People talking taking tech parts from Lancer GT and fit into Lancer GL, it could reach 1385kg. Inspira premium, what do they add in for the weight? Beras Wangi?
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oh so now I get it..chassis all same just inspira tech parts far less premium than Lancer GT? really??

I also did some research and I found local CBU Lancer GT prior 2013, does not have auto headlamp, auto wiper, auto cruise, anti trap windows and etc compare to Inspira when launched in 2010....so how the GT can be considered as superior than the Inspira?

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it's a metal bar

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oh so now I get it..chassis all same just ins tech parts far less premium than Lancer GT? really??

I also did some research and I found local CBU Lancer GT prior 2013, does not have auto headlamp, auto wiper, auto cruise, anti trap windows and etc compare to Inspira when launched in 2010....so how the GT can be considered as superior than the Inspira?
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SMELLL!!
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oh so now I get it..chassis all same just ins tech parts far less premium than Lancer GT? really??

I also did some research and I found local CBU Lancer GT prior 2013, does not have auto headlamp, auto wiper, auto cruise, anti trap windows and etc compare to Inspira when launched in 2010....so how the GT can be considered as superior than the Inspira?
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u this lazy proton sales man, u nvr read my post ah? vmad.gif

he said during assembling process , got japanese fart in the car, thats why it smell better, so lancer gt better than inspira in every aspect, no mater how it weight , how it superior in terms of function , parts or whatsoever.... understand???


my comment make based on JAPYCRAPTOROGY whistling.gif

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SMELLL!!
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oh yeah? stop talking nonsense please, who taught you that?? Please show me an official Lancer brochure or website promoting the premium smell as their main attraction factor....
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Wow, already 4 replies so far. I am glad that at least allenultra stayed professional and neutral, good job.

The rest replied with much hatred that they go personal. Why can't reply properly and fill in the blanks with hatred? You sellman or have business related to P1?

I managed to check this info from the same person who told the differences between Inspira & Lancer GT 2 years ago. Here's his reply:

When MMC & P1 signed the deal, it stated clearly, any technical parts that will lead to breakdown, engine blown, failed handling like Sylphy/Almera, or any issue that could damage MMC reputation.

The Inspira is based on the Lancer GL that can't sell well that was phased out earlier. In the assembly plant, the engine, gearbox, the suspension, electronic components/modules/sensors, interior dashboard, door panels brought in imported. The machine here does the stamping with the metal sheets imported. The rest of the parts that won't cause breakdown are done locally. Some are sub to local companies to produce the parts. Due to improper storage (space vacuum), the interior of Inspira not as fragrant as brand new Conti/Japanese/Korean cars inside. Smells like China made cars.

The P1 tuned suspension is only myth to show that they do produce something and the rear suspension is exact match of Lancer GL and not from Lancer GT.

Kerb weight:
Lancer 2.0GT 1385kg
Lancer 2.0GL 1320kg (reduced ingredient variant for 3rd nation)
Lancer 2.0GL 1335kg
Inspira 2.0 Premium 1335kg

Difference between Lancer GL & GT lies in the large METAL BAR that connects to both rear wheels arms. Relook into your replies earlier, don't know why you keep showing me the arm. Show the arm for what when people talking about the whole Multilink rear suspension? Have to use the word Metal Bar or Metal Beam or else you would refer elsewhere. Who knows, you might show me the tie rod in front in reply. That 50kg difference came from this metal bar alone. Understand? Mind you the bodykit, side skirt, & spoiler aren't heavy that even small kid could easily carry it with 1 hand. People use adhesive 2 sided tape specially for PU & fibreglass material for skirting nowadays. No more cement.

So stop saying your Inspira is Lancer GT. It's based on Lancer GL and that is why MMC willing to let P1 rebadge but under strict restriction and monitoring. This explains why Lancer GT sales still survive today. Many who can't afford new would buy used Lancer GT rather than buy that Inspira. Hassle free guaranteed thumbup.gif
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Where is the 50kg metal bar?

find me one

u dumb arse jaycraptor
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oh yeah? stop talking nonsense please, who taught you that?? Please show me an official Lancer brochure or website promoting the premium smell as their main attraction factor....
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U will get wira 1993 broucher soon whistling.gif
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U will get wira 1993 broucher soon whistling.gif
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oh yeah? stop talking nonsense please, who taught you that?? Please show me an official Lancer brochure or website promoting the premium smell as their main attraction factor....
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jayraptor say the brochure in local website is downgraded jor.. so i dunno which website show the ORI d.... i think i better believe this jayraptor... cos he seems to be more pro than the official brochure.... blush.gif

QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 10:10 PM)
That sounds ridiculous or funny but true. You can go sit inside MMC Lancer GT, Mazda 3, Forte/Cerato, Pug408, Toyota Altis, Inspira, Preve brand new at various showroom and then compare the smell. IF you could still find China made cars, get in and remember the smell. Then you'll know the difference. Please make sure you are not having nose block or flu before you go. Conti smell inside is best followed by Mazda and then Japs/Koreans. The factory and storage condition determines the smell other than the leather/fabric. I am referring to the smell of the dashboard and door panels.
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As expected, you bunch of parasites will be hunger for fault finding on anything minor you can find. VSC, ASC, VSA, their function to prevent understeer and oversteer with counter braking. As mentioned earlier, you can choose to add in weight personally.

People talking taking tech parts from Lancer GT and fit into Lancer GL, it could reach 1385kg. Inspira premium, what do they add in for the weight? Beras Wangi?
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even if we give you the benefit of the doubt. let say we agree lancer gt has 1385kg and its the ultimate truth. it is only difference by 50kg and that will be only 3.6%. so meaning the inspira has 96.4% of similarity to lancer right? what is the big hoohaa you trying to make here? nobody says inspira = lancer 100%. it is a CKD based lancer with a rebadge in malaysia. MMC had mentioned in press media that they only allow proton to tweak the suspension for handling they like, not changing the suspension layout or making some new design out of it. the tweaking they meant even for laymen is basically 3 simple things such as spring, absorber and anti roll bars. thats all. MMC allow proton to redesign the front and rear bumpers as well and other minor cosmetic items like the tiny rear spoiler n side skirts that didnt affect the actual design of the exterior body parts. but at least we know, the main thing like the full chassis, engine, gearbox and main wiring/electronic components are from mitsubishi. yes, in the process of CKD, some minor parts might be manufactured by local manufacturers according to spec.

in this CKD process, its the same thing going on for other local CKD Honda and Toyota, even your local CKD Naza-Kia cars have their parts locally manufactured too. why u never make a big hoohaa for those but Inspira? iszit because of the Proton badge? if yes, then you are no different than from those who make big foul cry in lancer forum when Proton launch the Inspira back then. like a bunch of kids crying for buying more expensive candy than other kids. if you are so great, go make your stand for Hyundai Carnival owners back then due to CKD Naza Ria. you know why Lancer still can dispose some of their Lancer? coz of ppl like u, the badge makes wonder, but its your money to burn for that extra 40k. pffttt! doh.gif

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even if we give you the benefit of the doubt. let say we agree lancer gt has 1385kg and its the ultimate truth. it is only difference by 50kg and that will be only 3.6%. so meaning the inspira has 96.4% of similarity to lancer right? what is the big hoohaa you trying to make here? nobody says inspira = lancer 100%. it is a CKD based lancer with a rebadge in malaysia. MMC had mentioned in press media that they only allow proton to tweak the suspension for handling they like, not changing the suspension layout or making some new design out of it. the tweaking they meant even for laymen is basically 3 simple things such as spring, absorber and anti roll bars. thats all. MMC allow proton to redesign the front and rear bumpers as well and other minor cosmetic items like the tiny rear spoiler n side skirts that didnt affect the actual design of the exterior body parts. but at least we know, the main thing like the full chassis, engine, gearbox and main wiring/electronic components are from mitsubishi. yes, in the process of CKD, some minor parts might be manufactured by local manufacturers according to spec.

in this CKD process, its the same thing going on for other local CKD Honda and Toyota, even your local CKD Naza-Kia cars have their parts locally manufactured too. why u never make a big hoohaa for those but Inspira? iszit because of the Proton badge? if yes, then you are no different than from those who make big foul cry in lancer forum when Proton launch the Inspira back then. like a bunch of kids crying for buying more expensive candy than other kids. if you are so great, go make your stand for Hyundai Carnival owners back then due to CKD Naza Ria. you know why Lancer still can dispose some of their Lancer? coz of ppl like u, the badge makes wonder, but its your money to burn for that extra 40k. pffttt! doh.gif
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I Bilif that jayraptor is still staying with his parents house basement, sulking and making his own make believe world. I guess he has no fren to play with or anyone that even gives a sh.it about him, therefore the only attention he can get is making a fool out of this, hey at least he gets plenty of attention right.....ur making his day...keep up the good works guys...u just made jayraptor a happy man....kudos

P/s : Mr.jayraptor, dun feel sad or lonely, come join us for one of our tt, we'lll be ur real frens.......u can say bye bye to those imagineries fren u created

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no need argue la.. make urself stupid only......
just give simple answer la... the difference 50kg.. because mesin timbang rosak...... because that day blackout...
faham u all?
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I Bilif that jayraptor is still staying with his parents house basement, sulking and making his own make believe world. I guess he has no fren to play with or anyone that even gives a sh.it about him, therefore the only attention he can get is making a fool out of this, hey at least he gets plenty of attention right.....ur making his day...keep up the good works guys...u just made jayraptor a happy man....kudos

P/s : Mr.jayraptor, dun feel sad or lonely, come join us for one of our tt, we'lll be ur real frens.......u can say bye bye to those imagineries fren u created
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 17 2013, 12:31 AM)
wat he mean is that lancer GT assemble in japan, so during assembling , got japanese fart in the car, so it smell better. so it better than inspira in EVERY aspect, but still cannot beat his goldlike forte 1.6 4sp auto wheres better than forte 2.0 ok

UNDERSTAND????  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
out, lazy argue with cow, cause he even open new ID in AW to claim that we owners are sales man

source : http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?sh...c=105100&st=349
why i said so??  cause only he calling other people as salesman  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 17 2013, 12:40 AM)
Why no we do a proof la.. Buy lancer GT 2013 .. Buy inspira 2.0P
We strip the car off ...everything...
Loser pay for both the car price 125k + 86k (inspira 2.0E)
Since u are so confident the chassis different

When I says everything I mean everyhing down to the bone.. See the chassis got diff or not
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need to include smell to the competition??

QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 17 2013, 12:49 AM)
Attached Image Attached Image

Please visit mitsubishi-motors.com.my
Get ur facts correct before u make up story please

Lancer GT does not comes with ASC (VSC)
Lancer sportnack only have ASC
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post Jul 17 2013, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 17 2013, 01:44 AM)
even if we give you the benefit of the doubt. let say we agree lancer gt has 1385kg and its the ultimate truth. it is only difference by 50kg and that will be only 3.6%. so meaning the inspira has 96.4% of similarity to lancer right? what is the big hoohaa you trying to make here? nobody says inspira = lancer 100%. it is a CKD based lancer with a rebadge in malaysia. MMC had mentioned in press media that they only allow proton to tweak the suspension for handling they like, not changing the suspension layout or making some new design out of it. the tweaking they meant even for laymen is basically 3 simple things such as spring, absorber and anti roll bars. thats all. MMC allow proton to redesign the front and rear bumpers as well and other minor cosmetic items like the tiny rear spoiler n side skirts that didnt affect the actual design of the exterior body parts. but at least we know, the main thing like the full chassis, engine, gearbox and main wiring/electronic components are from mitsubishi. yes, in the process of CKD, some minor parts might be manufactured by local manufacturers according to spec.

in this CKD process, its the same thing going on for other local CKD Honda and Toyota, even your local CKD Naza-Kia cars have their parts locally manufactured too. why u never make a big hoohaa for those but Inspira? iszit because of the Proton badge? if yes, then you are no different than from those who make big foul cry in lancer forum when Proton launch the Inspira back then. like a bunch of kids crying for buying more expensive candy than other kids. if you are so great, go make your stand for Hyundai Carnival owners back then due to CKD Naza Ria. you know why Lancer still can dispose some of their Lancer? coz of ppl like u, the badge makes wonder, but its your money to burn for that extra 40k. pffttt! doh.gif
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+1

Reminder..
we never says lancer GT = inspira
We from day 1 told jayraptor the difference lies on the absorber and spring and anti roll bar.. Is him making the hoohaa yet turn one big round and come back with a 50kg metal bar @ anti roll bar.
we told him weight diff doesnt means chassis diff..he keep turning and turning with the GL and GT diff chassis and now says Same.

its funny how he look around the globe for a near 1385kg as he claim.. He found thailand one 1375 so he used that instead. Aussie one 1360 VRX summore @ 2.4L enginr but he dun wan refer. Malaysia site 1360 GT he dun wan refer. Proton site inspira 1350, he dun wan refer..
but sawadeekaaapp

Claiming inspira owner whom giving him fact ast parasites while he is the hero!
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post Jul 17 2013, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 17 2013, 12:40 AM)
Lancer GL or GT, the difference lies in the grill, dashboard trim, suspension and engine tuning. Also GT has full bodykit. Elsewhere, they have Lancer GLS that is the GL with added bodykit but kerb weight remain at 1335kg as the addition doesn't weigh more than 1kg. In terms of handling, GL or GLS can't match Lancer GT as done by group of enthusiasts in Thailand. Woot woot.... Inspira is based on Lancer GL's tech, therfore, it can't match Lancer GT neither. Elsewhere, the Lancer GL comes with VSC therefore, Inspira can't beat GL neither.
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I not sure you learn about density for steel or not anyway.... Just hope that i not going wrong laugh.gif

V (Volume) = m (Mass) x p (Density)

Steel's density is about 7700kg/m^3

if you claim that the metal bar is 50 kg
then the calculation call be below

V = 50kg x 7700kg/m^3
V = 0.006 m^3

with the cube root of 0.006m^3 then you'll have 0.180m solid cube block do you have any idea how big is a 0.180m cube?

this is based on a cube if you go to the shape some like "rod" like the antiroll bar the diameter even bigger and the length even longer

Lancer anti roll bar 20mm (diameter)

V = h (height) x pi (3.142) x r^2 (radius)

thus,

0.006m^3 = h x 3.142 x 0.01^2

h = 0.006m^3 / (3.142 x 0.01^2)

h = 20m

Does the anti looks like it has 20m in length?

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post Jul 17 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 17 2013, 08:36 AM)
I not sure you learn about density for steel or not anyway.... Just hope that i not going wrong laugh.gif

V (Volume) = m (Mass) x p (Density)

Steel's density is about 7700kg/m^3

if you claim that the metal bar is 50 kg
then the calculation call be below

V = 50kg x 7700kg/m^3
V = 0.006 m^3

with the cube root of 0.006m^3 then you'll have 0.180m solid cube block do you have any idea how big is  a 0.180m cube?

this is based on a cube if you go to the shape some like "rod" like the antiroll bar the diameter even bigger and the length even longer

Lancer anti roll bar 20mm (diameter)

V = h (height) x pi (3.142) x r^2 (radius)

thus,

0.006m^3 = h x 3.142 x 0.01^2

h = 0.006m^3 / (3.142 x 0.01^2)

h = 20m

Does the anti looks like it has 20m in length?
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no need explain so technical.. He also dun understand... Parasites
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post Jul 17 2013, 09:16 AM

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Summarize for TS...

Jayraptor finally concluded..

Lancer GL = Lancer GT

Differences
Suspension (anti roll bar absorber spring)
Grill
Engine tuning (previously now same )
Dashboard trim


Suspension - rm3k u can get after market with much better handling
Grill - bodykit u can change 3k budget can do a lot
Engine tuning same dun bother
Dashboard trim repaint for 100-200

Top up 10k for modding la..
Car 86k + 10k
Lancer GT - 129k

Inspira he claim got china smell la..

You do the math
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post Jul 17 2013, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 17 2013, 09:16 AM)
Summarize for TS...

Jayraptor finally concluded..

Lancer GL = Lancer GT

Differences
Suspension (anti roll bar absorber spring)
Grill
Engine tuning (previously now same )
Dashboard trim
Suspension - rm3k u can get after market with much better handling
Grill - bodykit u can change 3k budget can do a lot
Engine tuning same dun bother
Dashboard trim repaint for 100-200

Top up 10k for modding la..
Car 86k + 10k
Lancer GT - 129k

Inspira he claim got china smell la..

You do the math
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after reading all the posts, i think jayraptor is trying to make some issues here, by trying to bring up the emotion of the members in FnF, as we know, cars always has a place in every men's heart, especially there are so many cars in the market nowadays, and its affordable, imagine how many of us can drive a 2000cc car 10 years back. So, its is so easy to play emotion here, because evyone hope their car is fastest and best even its in different segment, they are trying to compare as far as they can. and, you can say anything you like in the forum or internet, but do you accept the challenge to see in face and discuss? Pls stop your kimchi salesman talk.

back to the topic, from the first place, none of them claim inspira is lancer gt, in fact some of them don even want to look at lancer gt as its overpriced, do not deny that, as most of us argue on the tax on non-local car, so its a fact lancer gt is overpriced due to tax.

for those who bought inspira and driving inspira, you know the reason why proton says "smart guys get it", when you are driving inspira, you know you are driving one of the best handling car in its class, yes craptor, i am saying inspira and NOT lancer gt, some said inspira even better than lancer gt in overall sedan performance, which most of the lancer owner will not admit it.

if i have a choice, i will still choose inspira, due to the price and performance, its so unbelievable. i m still love my car as in day 1.

Cheers.
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mr J..if u still wanna worship the 50kg heavier arse off LGT, please go & live in Langkawi la..brand new LGT only RM77k..

cheaper than Inspira, topup RM5k than Preve..

why so serious
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QUOTE(ryanso85 @ Jul 17 2013, 09:28 AM)
after reading all the posts, i think jayraptor is trying to make some issues here, by trying to bring up the emotion of the members in FnF, as we know, cars always has a place in every men's heart, especially there are so many cars in the market nowadays, and its affordable, imagine how many of us can drive a 2000cc car 10 years back. So, its is so easy to play emotion here, because evyone hope their car is fastest and best even its in different segment, they are trying to compare as far as they can. and, you can say anything you like in the forum or internet, but do you accept the challenge to see in face and discuss? Pls stop your kimchi salesman talk.

back to the topic, from the first place, none of them claim inspira is lancer gt, in fact some of them don even want to look at lancer gt as its overpriced, do not deny that, as most of us argue on the tax on non-local car, so its a fact lancer gt is overpriced due to tax.

for those who bought inspira and driving inspira, you know the reason why proton says "smart guys get it", when you are driving inspira, you know you are driving one of the best handling car in its class, yes craptor, i am saying inspira and NOT lancer gt, some said inspira even better than lancer gt in overall sedan performance, which most of the lancer owner will not admit it.

if i have a choice, i will still choose inspira, due to the price and performance, its so unbelievable. i m still love my car as in day 1.

Cheers.
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Not another p1 salesman.... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 17 2013, 08:21 AM)
+1

Reminder..
we never says lancer GT = inspira
We from day 1 told jayraptor the difference lies on the absorber and spring and anti roll bar.. Is him making the hoohaa yet turn one big round and come back with a 50kg metal bar @ anti roll bar.
we told him weight diff doesnt means chassis diff..he keep turning and turning with the GL and GT diff chassis and now says Same.

its funny how he look around the globe for a near 1385kg as he claim.. He found thailand one 1375 so he used that instead. Aussie one 1360 VRX summore @ 2.4L enginr but he dun wan refer. Malaysia site 1360 GT he dun wan refer. Proton site inspira 1350, he dun wan refer..
but sawadeekaaapp

Claiming inspira owner proton salesman whom giving him fact ast parasites while he is the hero!
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Fiesta,208,and Prius c r not being discussed.putkeymug..derailed 99 punya thread..

Even my friend used to own lancer gt also said he himself sohai ad😁.but instead of comparing between lancer and inspira,he upgraded to BMW 320i to cure his sohainess..
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QUOTE(generalhwh @ Jul 17 2013, 11:43 AM)
Fiesta,208,and Prius c r not being discussed.putkeymug..derailed 99 punya thread..

Even my friend used to own lancer gt also said he himself sohai ad😁.but instead of comparing between lancer and inspira,he upgraded to BMW 320i to cure his sohainess..
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320i? The car that is super heavy, have no torque, yawn pickup? Yes.... i'm sure its cure for his sorhainess....

ps : My experience might not be a good one cause i was driving the coupe... what a yawn car
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 17 2013, 12:35 PM)
320i? The car that is super heavy, have no torque, yawn pickup? Yes.... i'm sure its cure for his sorhainess....

ps : My experience might not be a good one cause i was driving the coupe... what a yawn car
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U guys didnt go for the ultimate ride?

Forte 1.6 four speed...
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 17 2013, 12:35 PM)
320i? The car that is super heavy, have no torque, yawn pickup? Yes.... i'm sure its cure for his sorhainess....

ps : My experience might not be a good one cause i was driving the coupe... what a yawn car
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Heavier means its a better car OK!! Got a pro told me lancer gt is heavier than inspira by 50kg. So the gt is very much superior to inspira. Means the heavier the car, the better it is. If still not sextified, smell it..
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 17 2013, 12:35 PM)
320i? The car that is super heavy, have no torque, yawn pickup? Yes.... i'm sure its cure for his sorhainess....

ps : My experience might not be a good one cause i was driving the coupe... what a yawn car
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QUOTE(generalhwh @ Jul 17 2013, 02:08 PM)
BMW wor...give motorbike engine also nvm..plus point is got conti smell ma....haha
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Wow! Mod liao become BMX!
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Ford Fiesta!!! the conti smell!!!! I shall wait for it 1st~

Meanwhile, please have fun shooting each another in my post~~~

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TS want place booking for fiesta.. we got many dealers here.. but you need fetch your fiesta from P1 showroom lar.. maybe will lose the conti smell..
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 16 2013, 09:52 AM)
I don't think you guys realise how friggin heavy 50kg is. I can set for youa barbell with that weight and you try lifting it with one hand.
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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Jul 17 2013, 01:00 AM)
oh so now I get it..chassis all same just inspira tech parts far less premium than Lancer GT? really??

I also did some research and I found local CBU Lancer GT prior 2013, does not have auto headlamp, auto wiper, auto cruise, anti trap windows and etc compare to Inspira when launched in 2010....so how the GT can be considered as superior than the Inspira?
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SothysSaleShop,
The ori Lancer GT strength lies in its suspension and engine tuning. Auto headlamp, autowiper, auto-cruise are categorized as gadgets.

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K3nnYkl82,
Still so kiasu and divert elsewhere rather than stick to topic. You asked for it, and the result is out. What else do you still want to argue? If you still wanted to go further, the only way is to join MMC & P1 technical team with full access to technical details. That is only if you have the Automotive cert + working experience. If you only sellman and don't have any vocational school background at least, I don't think they'll hire you.

Around the globe, some of the countries that have GT don't even have website in English and you could only get to them if you know their language. It's not in roman but in Arabic, in West Asia language, etc. Wonder who kept claiming the Inspira has exactly the same tech as Lancer GT but differs in craftmanship quality? Since you bunch of parasites knowledge only limited to website, rather than scan the catalog, I gave you someone else website where you can still retrieve ori Lancer GT specs.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 18 2013, 11:25 PM)
SothysSaleShop,
The ori Lancer GT strength lies in its suspension and engine tuning. Auto headlamp, autowiper, auto-cruise are categorized as gadgets.

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K3nnYkl82,
Still so kiasu and divert elsewhere rather than stick to topic. You asked for it, and the result is out. What else do you still want to argue? If you still wanted to go further, the only way is to join MMC & P1 technical team with full access to technical details. That is only if you have the Automotive cert + working experience. If you only sellman and don't have any vocational school background at least, I don't think they'll hire you.

Around the globe, some of the countries that have GT don't even have website in English and you could only get to them if you know their language. It's not in roman but in Arabic, in West Asia language, etc. Wonder who kept claiming the Inspira has exactly the same tech as Lancer GT but differs in craftmanship quality? Since you bunch of parasites knowledge only limited to website, rather than scan the catalog, I gave you someone else website where you can still retrieve ori Lancer GT specs.
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so u mean thailand website is ori? the rest is not? mitsubishi australia, malaysia all non ori?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 18 2013, 11:25 PM)
SothysSaleShop,
The ori Lancer GT strength lies in its suspension and engine tuning. Auto headlamp, autowiper, auto-cruise are categorized as gadgets.

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K3nnYkl82,
Still so kiasu and divert elsewhere rather than stick to topic. You asked for it, and the result is out. What else do you still want to argue? If you still wanted to go further, the only way is to join MMC & P1 technical team with full access to technical details. That is only if you have the Automotive cert + working experience. If you only sellman and don't have any vocational school background at least, I don't think they'll hire you.

Around the globe, some of the countries that have GT don't even have website in English and you could only get to them if you know their language. It's not in roman but in Arabic, in West Asia language, etc. Wonder who kept claiming the Inspira has exactly the same tech as Lancer GT but differs in craftmanship quality? Since you bunch of parasites knowledge only limited to website, rather than scan the catalog, I gave you someone else website where you can still retrieve ori Lancer GT specs.
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Im tired arguing with u.. From day one I said absorber spring and antiroll bar diff.. Now u accuse me says same tech..
And whatever u claim .. We ask u show u never answer..
Such as 50kg weight of anti roll bar
Such as ur claim of many local parts
Now even mitsu malaysia show GT 1360kg inspira 1350kg..u juz choose to ignore the question..
But u keep says u correct.. Keep says now the turth here d.. Whatelse yoy want?
Where are all ur claims? Where are the diff in terms of urlamcer GL and lancer GT chassis?

U are like.. Ppl asking u something u answer diff thing

Example:
K3 : have you have your dinner?
Jaycraptor : I already fart

K3 : how is forte engine performning?
Jaycraptor : oh well.. My family is fine thank you..

I here by declare you win...
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QUOTE(8431 @ Jul 18 2013, 11:57 PM)
so u mean thailand website is ori? the rest is not? mitsubishi australia, malaysia all non ori?
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Thailand is selling the original Lancer GT. Only thing is the spec on their current website is wrong at 10kg less on the kerb weight. The catalog taken from MMC Thailand is correct.

MMC here, the Lancer GT probably being forced to detune to Lancer GL output/torque. The suspension, might still be there. Since more and more of my buddies quit automotive field, already not on track with MMC after 2011. Not sure whether MMC still using the same thing or new suspension replacing the old one. Lancer alone has more than 5 specs worldwide. Australia probably has the GLS specs, 1 rank above GL.

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 19 2013, 12:05 AM)
Im tired arguing with u.. From day one I said absorber spring and antiroll bar diff.. Now u accuse me says same tech..
And whatever u claim .. We ask u show u never answer..
Such as 50kg weight of anti roll bar
Such as ur claim of many local parts
Now even mitsu malaysia show GT 1360kg inspira 1350kg..u juz choose to ignore the question..
But u keep says u correct.. Keep says now the turth here d.. Whatelse yoy want?
Where are all ur claims? Where are the diff in terms of urlamcer GL and lancer GT chassis?

U are like.. Ppl asking u something u answer diff thing

Example:
K3 : have you have your dinner?
Jaycraptor : I already fart

K3 : how is forte engine performning?
Jaycraptor : oh well.. My family is fine thank you..

I here by declare you win...
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 12:15 AM)
Thailand is selling the original Lancer GT. Only thing is the spec on their current website is wrong at 10kg less on the kerb weight. The catalog taken from MMC Thailand is correct.

MMC here, the Lancer GT probably being forced to detune to Lancer GL output/torque. The suspension, might still be there. Since more and more of my buddies quit automotive field, already not on track with MMC after 2011. Not sure whether MMC still using the same thing or new suspension replacing the old one. Lancer alone has more than 5 specs worldwide. Australia probably has the GLS specs, 1 rank above GL.
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Now you are more correct than mitsubishi malaysia rclxms.gif

Bro .. just to for your info .. we got frens bought used lancer japan projector headlight .. one side is 1kg heavier than the halogen one ..

You cant just base on the vehicle weight la please..

The steering rack itself .. for keyless (KOS) and non KOS is huge different in weight d..

Thailand GT comes with projector headlight
Malaysia NON ..
Aussie NON ..

And u till now insist malaysia website wrong..

and the 18" you see .. 10 SPOKE .. thailand website one .. is the old lancer GT wheels .. which weights 12kg ++ each ..
the one in malaysia 18" 8 spoke is the new rims which is lighter in weight .. its stated light weight rim ...

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 12:15 AM)
Thailand is selling the original Lancer GT. Only thing is the spec on their current website is wrong at 10kg less on the kerb weight. The catalog taken from MMC Thailand is correct.

MMC here, the Lancer GT probably being forced to detune to Lancer GL output/torque. The suspension, might still be there. Since more and more of my buddies quit automotive field, already not on track with MMC after 2011. Not sure whether MMC still using the same thing or new suspension replacing the old one. Lancer alone has more than 5 specs worldwide. Australia probably has the GLS specs, 1 rank above GL.
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All those "probably" "might" "being forced" "not sure" are your fact?

you are good in writing essay..f***ing good imagination, bring more fact and prove if you think your brain is still working icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(stewPik @ Jul 19 2013, 12:19 AM)
Hahaha...in the 1st place u already lose la....Padan muka u go argue with idiot.....Padan muka kaw kaw u........Mr.J I sapot u....my idol
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I really wordless lo ..

Day one i post .. already tell him that ... absober spring and antiroll bar ..

NOW he turn back the GUN and says .. NAH .. ALREADY SAYS DIFFERENT LO >> WHAT ELSE YOU WANT
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QUOTE(ryanso85 @ Jul 19 2013, 12:21 AM)
All those "probably" "might" "being forced" "not sure" are your fact?

you are good in writing essay..f***ing good imagination, bring more fact and prove if you think your brain is still working icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 19 2013, 12:20 AM)
Now you are more correct than mitsubishi malaysia  rclxms.gif

Bro .. just to for your info .. we got frens bought used lancer japan projector headlight .. one side is 1kg heavier than the halogen one ..

You cant just base on the vehicle weight la please..

The steering rack itself .. for keyless (KOS) and non KOS is huge different in weight d..

Thailand GT comes with projector headlight
Malaysia NON ..
Aussie NON ..

And u till now insist malaysia website wrong..

and the 18" you see .. 10 SPOKE .. thailand website one .. is the old lancer GT wheels .. which weights 12kg ++ each ..
the one in malaysia 18" 8 spoke is the new rims which is lighter in weight .. its stated light weight rim ...

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If you don't know anything about manufacturing cars, don't talk crap here. I suggest you to find out more with technical team before you reply. Despite so many specs Lancer, GT and higher only get more kerb weight difference. How come? You can't even answer that properly. Oh really, Lancer tyre so heavy? You ever put the 18" GT rim and 16" Inspira rim on the weight scale and how much the variance? Do you know what is alloy rim in the first place? Not cheap imitation rim you buy from tayar shop.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 12:34 AM)
If you don't know anything about manufacturing cars, don't talk crap here. I suggest you to find out more with technical team before you reply. Despite so many specs Lancer, GT and higher only get more kerb weight difference. How come? You can't even answer that properly. Oh really, Lancer tyre so heavy? You ever put the 18" GT rim and 16" Inspira rim on the weight scale and how much the variance? Do you know what is alloy rim in the first place? Not cheap imitation rim you buy from tayar shop.
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QUOTE(ryanso85 @ Jul 19 2013, 12:21 AM)
All those "probably" "might" "being forced" "not sure" are your fact?

you are good in writing essay..f***ing good imagination, bring more fact and prove if you think your brain is still working icon_question.gif
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What else P1/P2 protection can't do in our automotive market? They can force other brands to sell at specific gap. What else preventing certain brand from selling which model. They can even force MMC to close shop here back in 90's. ESSAY YOUR HEAD!

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 12:34 AM)
If you don't know anything about manufacturing cars, don't talk crap here. I suggest you to find out more with technical team before you reply. Despite so many specs Lancer, GT and higher only get more kerb weight difference. How come? You can't even answer that properly. Oh really, Lancer tyre so heavy? You ever put the 18" GT rim and 16" Inspira rim on the weight scale and how much the variance? Do you know what is alloy rim in the first place? Not cheap imitation rim you buy from tayar shop.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 12:35 AM)
What else P1/P2 protection can't do in our automotive market? They can force other brands to sell at specific gap. What else preventing certain brand from selling which model. They can even force MMC to close shop here back in 90's. ESSAY YOUR HEAD!
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stop feeding the troll lar ppl. even the lancer is better than inspira. so what? the lancer itself is not a well built car to start with. mitsubishi is never known for its built quality nor comfort. lancer NVH is even worse than the FD2, interior plastic is crappy as u can get. the not so well built FD2 also has better interior plastic than the lancer. whats the point of keep arguing when lancer itself is not a luxury car to start with. doh.gif
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stop feeding the troll lar ppl. even the lancer is better than inspira. so what? the lancer itself is not a well built car to start with. mitsubishi is never known for its built quality nor comfort. lancer NVH is even worse than the FD2, interior plastic is crappy as u can get. the not so well built FD2 also has better interior plastic than the lancer. whats the point of keep arguing when lancer itself is not a luxury car to start with.  doh.gif
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Beh tahan him la boss ..

I told him the fact .. he twist back says i lie .. apa punya orang
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let him be lah, i have seen worse trolls in LYN lar. whoever wins, he still stuck with his crappy korean.  tongue.gif
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True oso ....
I dun mind him crapping .. but wahlau eh ..

its like ..
Gouki : the wheels are heavier ...
K3 : NO LA >> SAME WEIGHT ONE ..


Two days later..
K3 : NAH! TOLD YOU D.. THE WHEELS ARE HEAVIER .... YOU LIE TO ME!
Gouki : ........

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True oso ....
I dun mind him crapping .. but wahlau eh ..

its like ..
Gouki : the wheels are heavier ...
K3 : NO LA >> SAME WEIGHT ONE ..
Two days later..
K3 : NAH! TOLD YOU D.. THE WHEELS ARE HEAVIER ....  YOU LIE TO ME!
Gouki : ........

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let him be lah, i have seen worse trolls in LYN lar. whoever wins, he still stuck with his crappy korean.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 12:34 AM)
If you don't know anything about manufacturing cars, don't talk crap here. I suggest you to find out more with technical team before you reply. Despite so many specs Lancer, GT and higher only get more kerb weight difference. How come? You can't even answer that properly. Oh really, Lancer tyre so heavy? You ever put the 18" GT rim and 16" Inspira rim on the weight scale and how much the variance? Do you know what is alloy rim in the first place? Not cheap imitation rim you buy from tayar shop.
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U are like.. Ppl asking u something u answer diff thing

Example:
K3 : have you have your dinner?
Jaycraptor : I already fart

K3 : how is forte engine performning?
Jaycraptor : oh well.. My family is fine thank you..

I here by declare you win...
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Actually I read it more like

K3 : the sky is blue
Craptor : no the sky is red. my professional friend told me
K3 : No, come out of your cave and you can see the sky is blue
Craptor : f*ck off you parasite I know for a fact the sky is red. I have all this cave drawings in my cave that says the sky is red
K3 : I am standing right outside your cave looking at the sky, i'm telling you it is blue.
Craptor : 1 + 1 equals 2, therefore the sky is red, see I proved it. You have no evidence the sky is blue.
K3 : what does 1 + 1 have anything to do with the sky?!
Craptor : you parasite so dumb of course don't understand, f*ck off because I have proof I am right and you are wrong.
K3 : but I am standing right here.........
Craptor : squirrels!!

LESSON : don't waste your time with the nutjob that lives in his cave and paint his own pictures.

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Thailand is selling the original Lancer GT. Only thing is the spec on their current website is wrong at 10kg less on the kerb weight. The catalog taken from MMC Thailand is correct.

MMC here, the Lancer GT probably being forced to detune to Lancer GL output/torque. The suspension, might still be there. Since more and more of my buddies quit automotive field, already not on track with MMC after 2011. Not sure whether MMC still using the same thing or new suspension replacing the old one. Lancer alone has more than 5 specs worldwide. Australia probably has the GLS specs, 1 rank above GL.
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Then the pelan chiao catalog correct all the way.

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Niamey.... Ppl read website u laugh at ppl.

Then the pelan chiao catalog correct all the way.

U dim. Very dim.
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I really wordless lo ..

Day one i post .. already tell him that ... absober spring and antiroll bar ..

NOW he turn back the GUN and says .. NAH .. ALREADY SAYS DIFFERENT LO >> WHAT ELSE YOU WANT
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pdan muka why you no buy vios?? laugh.gif
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Lessen learned when talk to retarded OKU @ distilled idiot.. Use retarded language.. U dun need fact juz pull it out from ur @ss and make sure u sapot thr @ss fact.
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Still wanna argue?

Lessen learned when talk to retarded OKU @ distilled idiot.. Use retarded language.. U dun need fact juz pull it out from ur @ss and make sure u sapot thr @ss fact.
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but the facts are came from thailand and i cannot read thai sad.gif
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why u all layan that KIA salesman?? typical salesman la him, dont even know car, but all based on his imagination and keep cocking here... whistling.gif

he actually prefer to trust thai website/ borchure and choose to ignore mitsu and proton official website whistling.gif whistling.gif
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why u all layan that KIA salesman?? typical salesman la him, dont even know car, but all based on his imagination and keep cocking here...  whistling.gif

he actually prefer to trust thai website/ borchure and choose to ignore mitsu and proton official website  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Sek bao mei ah?

Last night moon very nice hor
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Still wanna argue?

Lessen learned when talk to retarded OKU @ distilled idiot.. Use retarded language.. U dun need fact juz pull it out from ur @ss and make sure u sapot thr @ss fact.
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Regarding the service manual scanned photos in the thread that got banned:

FYI, any car service manual, for most of them, they don't take exact specs version for some as the details are only limited to spare parts covered under maintenance only. The manual taken is based on Lancer GL. FYI, several other Japanese/Korean brands service manuals too would take only specs of 1 or 2 more common variants and they share the manual.

Anything further and deeper than that will not be available in service manual and only technical department has the more detailed guide for each and every variant sold locally.

You wanted to flood this thread covering the facts. Here is the flashback. Try harder to cover your shame and your lies in attempt to bring down the Lancer GT. They have the Lancer EX variant too that was sold here with same tuning as Lancer GT in 2008/09 if not mistaken. It has either 16" or 17" rim and without bodykit selling at RM115k later up to RM117k. It was introduced when Lancer GT pricing was forced to increase to RM123k.




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Regarding the service manual scanned photos in the thread that got banned:

FYI, any car service manual, for most of them, they don't take exact specs version for some as the details are only limited to spare parts covered under maintenance only. The manual taken is based on Lancer GL. FYI, several other Japanese/Korean brands service manuals too would take only specs of 1 or 2 more common variants and they share the manual.

Anything further and deeper than that will not be available in service manual and only technical department has the more detailed guide for each and every variant sold locally.

You wanted to flood this thread covering the facts. Here is the flashback. Try harder to cover your shame and your lies in attempt to bring down the Lancer GT. They have the Lancer EX variant too that was sold here with same tuning as Lancer GT in 2008/09 if not mistaken. It has either 16" or 17" rim and without bodykit selling at RM115k later up to RM117k. It was introduced when Lancer GT pricing was forced to increase to RM123k.
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Regarding the service manual scanned photos in the thread that got banned:

FYI, any car service manual, for most of them, they don't take exact specs version for some as the details are only limited to spare parts covered under maintenance only. The manual taken is based on Lancer GL. FYI, several other Japanese/Korean brands service manuals too would take only specs of 1 or 2 more common variants and they share the manual.

Anything further and deeper than that will not be available in service manual and only technical department has the more detailed guide for each and every variant sold locally.

You wanted to flood this thread covering the facts. Here is the flashback. Try harder to cover your shame and your lies in attempt to bring down the Lancer GT. They have the Lancer EX variant too that was sold here with same tuning as Lancer GT in 2008/09 if not mistaken. It has either 16" or 17" rim and without bodykit selling at RM115k later up to RM117k. It was introduced when Lancer GT pricing was forced to increase to RM123k.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 09:33 PM)
Regarding the service manual scanned photos in the thread that got banned:

FYI, any car service manual, for most of them, they don't take exact specs version for some as the details are only limited to spare parts covered under maintenance only. The manual taken is based on Lancer GL. FYI, several other Japanese/Korean brands service manuals too would take only specs of 1 or 2 more common variants and they share the manual.

Anything further and deeper than that will not be available in service manual and only technical department has the more detailed guide for each and every variant sold locally.

You wanted to flood this thread covering the facts. Here is the flashback. Try harder to cover your shame and your lies in attempt to bring down the Lancer GT. They have the Lancer EX variant too that was sold here with same tuning as Lancer GT in 2008/09 if not mistaken. It has either 16" or 17" rim and without bodykit selling at RM115k later up to RM117k. It was introduced when Lancer GT pricing was forced to increase to RM123k.
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 19 2013, 10:01 PM)
diam la bodoh!, always based on GL GL, what is GL? gao lan?? u cant even proof there is very chasis for lancer from mitsubishi, but still cocking here....  doh.gif  doh.gif
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KO LA DIAM. You don't even own Lancer want to talk crap here. The service manual is showing only GL as when comes to maintenance, people wanted to know how to use the gadgets and the necessary guide to show how maintain the car. That is all. Anything more than that, refer to guide owned by SC and technical staff.

Try harder in filling this thread. You might want to increase your usernames to 10 each.

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THEN U PLEASE PROOF ME WHERE THE FUCUK SHOW THAT GOT FEW CHASIS FROM MITSUBISHI !!!

KIA SALES MAN, FCK U LA!
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FCK U KIA SALESMAN rolleyes.gif
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Like how?

Hide behind keyboard 1 vs 10?
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Vios has best reliability. For those who wanted only point A to B car with good FC, could consider. Wait for Vios 2013 as it has more proper design with dashboard at the right place.
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U from Penang also?
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Leng. U really viosTRD neighbour d!

U from Penang also?
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Eee haa.. TS came to TT.. I think we (salesman) dida good job.. Have not hit quota yet thou... Ciss
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Eee haa.. TS came to TT.. I think we (salesman) dida good job.. Have not hit quota yet thou... Ciss
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nice move for TS go and see for himself
but i wonder Jay got the guts to join tto with the 50kg metal bar or not
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nice move for TS go and see for himself
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Join TT? What for??? All salesmen only!

He rather spend time slapping a few TRD stickers on Forte.......instant chick magnet!
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Join TT? What for??? All salesmen only!

He rather spend time slapping a few TRD stickers on Forte.......instant chick magnet!
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Many salesman gather together every week
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Can we book a slot with guiness book of record?
Many salesman gather together every week
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No need la! P1 salesmen no value one....nobody cares unless Kia or Toyota or Mitsu.....4 person gathered already BIG news.
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PROOF ME GL AND GT CHASIS GOT DIFF PLEASE, ELSE U DIAM 7!!!

FCK U KIA SALESMAN  rolleyes.gif
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Bro, serious talk. If I add 50kg sandbags in the trunk, got instant performance like LGT or not?
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QUOTE(hann2 @ Jul 20 2013, 09:06 AM)
Bro, serious talk. If I add 50kg sandbags in the trunk, got instant performance like LGT or not?
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U tested william ride d ma..
U yet to test mine..

Why wanna degrade to lgt performance?? whistling.gif
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Inspira 1.8M with 18 inch UHP tyres will smoke all cars below RM 180k in Malaysia in say 15-25 sec of lap race on the road. And the cost of buying the car + rim & tyre upgrade is only RM 78K + RM 4K (rims) + RM 3.5k (tyres). Pretty much says it all.
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u guys really p1 salesmans lah~

oh, no no~ is the engineers ~~ can answer so many technical question...

i wan lepot... too many p1 salemans flooding my thread... haha
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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 20 2013, 09:44 AM)
u guys really p1 salesmans lah~

oh, no no~ is the engineers ~~ can answer so many technical question...

i wan lepot... too many p1 salemans flooding my thread... haha
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Yup.. We are salesman!
Technical advice look for jayraptor whistling.gif
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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 20 2013, 09:44 AM)
u guys really p1 salesmans lah~

oh, no no~ is the engineers ~~ can answer so many technical question...

i wan lepot... too many p1 salemans flooding my thread... haha
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so how is your decision? more incline to lala? brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 20 2013, 09:44 AM)
u guys really p1 salesmans lah~

oh, no no~ is the engineers ~~ can answer so many technical question...

i wan lepot... too many p1 salemans flooding my thread... haha
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Forget to ask u.. Can tahan the PRC smell or not? whistling.gif
already told u all frenly "salesman" thats why we can be active everyweek for the past 2 years!

Unlike those lonely soul
NBTD looking at broucher
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 20 2013, 09:11 AM)
U tested william ride d ma..
U yet to test mine..

Why wanna degrade to lgt performance?? whistling.gif
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Woo! I am comparing with Thai LGT!
Local LGT not original LGT coz no 50kg extra!
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The most important thing I got from reading this thread is......

NZH very man wor when diu9 ppl
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so now i want to buy lancer gt...should i get from thailand or should i get malaysia market one? or both are the same? someone is confusing me upside down...some more too many proton salesmen...
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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Jul 20 2013, 12:11 PM)
so now i want to buy lancer gt...should i get from thailand or should i get malaysia market one? or both are the same? someone is confusing me upside down...some more too many proton salesmen...
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Looks like thailand.. Be prepare to pay for AP as well.
Do not trust factory service manual
Do not trust website
Do not trust

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TRUST NO ONE (EXCEPT JAYRAPTOR) he has everything in his head..

Im quite confuse also. I see someone asking for the 50kg metal bar but then he very stingy dun wan tell where to get..
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 20 2013, 12:27 PM)
Looks like thailand.. Be prepare to pay for AP as well.
Do not trust factory service manual
Do not trust website
Do not trust

Err
TRUST NO ONE (EXCEPT JAYRAPTOR) he has everything in his head..

Im quite confuse also.  I see someone asking for the 50kg metal bar but then he very stingy dun wan tell where to get..
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If I am Mitsu salesman, I also won't tell!
Later Lancer = Inspira, I sell what? My family eat West-North wind, ah???
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QUOTE(hann2 @ Jul 20 2013, 12:33 PM)
If I am Mitsu salesman, I also won't tell!
Later Lancer = Inspira, I sell what? My family eat West-North wind, ah???
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can promote other stuff ma ..
PRC smell on inspira .. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 20 2013, 12:27 PM)
Looks like thailand.. Be prepare to pay for AP as well.
Do not trust factory service manual
Do not trust website
Do not trust

Err
TRUST NO ONE (EXCEPT JAYRAPTOR) he has everything in his head..

Im quite confuse also.  I see someone asking for the 50kg metal bar but then he very stingy dun wan tell where to get..
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that is more confusing..should i refer thailand spec with malaysia spec? or why should i refer to thailand spec but buying the car in malaysia?

is it a correct practice to offer cust a lower spec but slap in a higher spec badge like uses lancer EX spec but uses lancer GT badge?

aiyo more confusing laaa...can i safely said tat lancer gt thailand has lower power to weight ratio comparing with malaysia lancer gt?

or should i get forte instead? but forte is kia or naza? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Jul 20 2013, 01:00 PM)
that is more confusing..should i refer thailand spec with malaysia spec? or why should i refer to thailand spec but buying the car in malaysia?

is it a correct practice to offer cust a lower spec but slap in a higher spec badge like uses lancer EX spec but uses lancer GT badge?

aiyo more confusing laaa...can i safely said tat lancer gt thailand has lower power to weight ratio comparing with malaysia lancer gt?

or should i get forte instead? but forte is kia or naza?  rclxub.gif
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ask jayraptor ..
his solution is ultimate
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 20 2013, 01:15 PM)
ask jayraptor ..
his solution is ultimate
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i dun want mention his name...makes me more confusing tongue.gif
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Hope jay could give me the details about the 50kg metal bar, till now still no confirmation.
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 20 2013, 01:15 PM)
ask jayraptor ..
his solution is ultimate
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Lousy Proton salesman, ppl come ask about LGT of course you push Inspira to him ma......apasai you push customer to KIA salesman?

Padan muka kenot meet sales quota whistling.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 20 2013, 04:54 PM)
Lousy Proton salesman, ppl come ask about LGT of course you push Inspira to him ma......apasai you push customer to KIA salesman?

Padan muka kenot meet sales quota  whistling.gif
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Aiya..
Ppl know more than me ma..
He knows better than the website . Better than the factory service manual also..
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Today snap at one utama roadshow..
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Sad.. MMM selling fake lancer GT now. The weight is juz 1360kg
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 20 2013, 10:14 PM)
Today snap at one utama roadshow..
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Sad.. MMM selling fake lancer GT now. The weight is juz 1360kg
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I want thai version brochure lah!! mad.gif mad.gif
other than thai version, others are fake!!
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 19 2013, 02:56 AM)
Actually I read it more like

K3 : the sky is blue
Craptor : no the sky is red. my professional friend told me
K3 : No, come out of your cave and you can see the sky is blue
Craptor : f*ck off you parasite I know for a fact the sky is red. I have all this cave drawings in my cave that says the sky is red
K3 : I am standing right outside your cave looking at the sky, i'm telling you it is blue.
Craptor : 1 + 1 equals 2, therefore the sky is red, see I proved it. You have no evidence the sky is blue.
K3 : what does 1 + 1 have anything to do with the sky?!
Craptor : you parasite so dumb of course don't understand, f*ck off because I have proof I am right and you are wrong.
K3 : but I am standing right here.........
Craptor : squirrels!!

LESSON : don't waste your time with the nutjob that lives in his cave and paint his own pictures.
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 16 2013, 09:27 PM)
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 17 2013, 08:36 AM)
I not sure you learn about density for steel or not anyway.... Just hope that i not going wrong laugh.gif

V (Volume) = m (Mass) x p (Density)

Steel's density is about 7700kg/m^3

if you claim that the metal bar is 50 kg
then the calculation call be below

V = 50kg x 7700kg/m^3
V = 0.006 m^3

with the cube root of 0.006m^3 then you'll have 0.180m solid cube block do you have any idea how big is  a 0.180m cube?

this is based on a cube if you go to the shape some like "rod" like the antiroll bar the diameter even bigger and the length even longer

Lancer anti roll bar 20mm (diameter)

V = h (height) x pi (3.142) x r^2 (radius)

thus,

0.006m^3 = h x 3.142 x 0.01^2

h = 0.006m^3 / (3.142 x 0.01^2)

h = 20m

Does the anti looks like it has 20m in length?
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I'm a Peugeot salesman, driving fiesta sport, but i vote for inspira too...hahahaha

unless you like compact car. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bakkutt3h @ Aug 8 2013, 01:15 PM)
I'm a Peugeot salesman, driving fiesta sport, but i vote for inspira too...hahahaha

unless you like compact car. biggrin.gif
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But jayraptor said everyone is P1 salesman...
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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Aug 8 2013, 03:37 PM)
But jayraptor said everyone is P1 salesman...
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OKAY sad.gif
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 10:58 PM)
You are the dumb here. You wanted facts, I checked with professional and gave the answer from him. Yet you go mad and personal. Can't face the fact still? What else do you need? That is the part that we are debating here and you out of nowhere go and talk about the arm. Aiseh!

Talking to people like you have to use downgraded to basic English. Else, you would misinterpret and think aftermarket something else. Do you know what is swaybar?

You can go lift the BMW 5-series, Mazda 3/6, Lancer GT rear suspension METAL BAR (try not to use jargon with dumb KIASU like you) then you come and tell me how heavy. You think that Metal BAR so light? The so called lighter Torsion Beam one is not that light neither.

Then can you explain where the 50kg come from? The rims and wheels ain't that much big difference from 16" wheels neither. The spoiler? FYI, FF cars that wanted to improve handling, they would distribute more weight to the rear by adding more metal to the back. OK?
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aiyahhh, look like someone calculated the weight of the metal bar using formula.

then nevermind la, i let jaycraptor see some real action of the METAL BAR lah~

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those 1.6 car are not fast in city. even 2.0 are not fast.

those milotin car like myvi/vios are fast in city.
i suggest you try each car with 3 test drives with frens around, because if you test drive with 1 round and high speed test means nothing. try corner corner at the shop area, traffic light, and bring frens.

just do more test drives. it help. btw, aston martin grill on small car is  shakehead.gif  even the grill on cerato  kia(looks better on K5) is not favorable to many.

do endless of test drives, until you smile when you imagine you really driving that car, then, thats the car you want.
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Aug 9 2013, 08:28 PM)
aiyahhh, look like someone calculated the weight of the metal bar using formula.

then nevermind la, i let jaycraptor see some real action of the METAL BAR lah~

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Amazing!
U found the 50kg part!!!
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 9 2013, 09:55 PM)
Amazing!
U found the 50kg part!!!
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Aug 9 2013, 08:28 PM)
aiyahhh, look like someone calculated the weight of the metal bar using formula.

then nevermind la, i let jaycraptor see some real action of the METAL BAR lah~

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Somewhere in KL, a Lancer owner notices suddenly his car handling macam sampan because someone stole his 50kg metal bar ph34r.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 10 2013, 02:25 AM)
Somewhere in KL, a Lancer owner notices suddenly his car handling macam sampan because someone stole his 50kg metal bar ph34r.gif
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hahaha... later pulis come his house and pay some visit, ask, nie sape punye tu...<insert story> hahaha
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anyway... ,K3nnYkl82 => jayraptor=janitor laugh.gif

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Aug 10 2013, 06:25 PM)
hahaha... later pulis come his house and pay some visit, ask, nie sape punye tu...<insert story> hahaha
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anyway... ,K3nnYkl82 => jayraptor=janitor laugh.gif
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??

Sorry I dun have Thailand broucher ..
I don't have 50kg anti roll bar ..

Jayraptor > all
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 10 2013, 06:44 PM)
??

Sorry I dun have Thailand broucher ..
I don't have 50kg anti roll bar ..

Jayraptor > all
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lol... cheer.. maybe jayraptor go bora bora liao? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 6 2013, 08:22 PM)
Waiting for the 1.5L Fiesta this year & 1.0L Fiesta next year before make decision.

For now...
1st choice -  2.0E Inspira
2nd choice - 1.0L Fiesta
3rd choice - 1.5L Fiesta
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Hi leo
may i know where u get below offer? bcoz the highest rebate i get is only rm7k. thx
proton inspira 2.0p
-high rebate/disc, up to 8k + other bonus (2013 ver)

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QUOTE(one punch man @ Aug 11 2013, 07:38 PM)
Hi leo
may i know where u get below offer? bcoz the highest rebate i get is only rm7k. thx
proton inspira 2.0p
-high rebate/disc, up to 8k + other bonus (2013 ver)
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correction... 7k+-
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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 6 2013, 08:22 PM)
Waiting for the 1.5L Fiesta this year & 1.0L Fiesta next year before make decision.

For now...
1st choice -  2.0E Inspira
2nd choice - 1.0L Fiesta
3rd choice - 1.5L Fiesta
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Hi there, i do sell cars which ia better then the above u wanted. If you're keen to know more info, pm me. thanks.
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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Aug 11 2013, 08:21 PM)
correction... 7k+-
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haha i search hi n lo for 8k discount...guess now can settle with 7k

btw in the end which car u bought?
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haha i search hi n lo for 8k discount...guess now can settle with 7k

btw in the end which car u bought?
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