Moogle Stiltzkin, it's not that complicated :/

rapid mode is just samsung's ram caching feature. it is not a ram disk. i use primocache instead of rapid mode, because primocache has more flexibilities.

laptops are better to use ram-based stuff because of the battery. there is a very low chance of power loss. (actually it's like none after all these years) i use 8gb for ram cache, and 8gb for ram disk. (even if my laptop's battery runs out and goes into sleep, the data on ramdisk still remains)

for desktops, to be safe you should get a UPS. (especially when your place is frequently experiencing black-outs. in fact you must get one because the chance of hardware failure is much higher in conditions like that)

This post has been edited by horns: Oct 13 2014, 02:06 AM

yes, that's why laptops are better imo don't say that. i am cheapskate too lol!

plextor also have their ram-caching tool. recently it's getting common that sata ssd's are using ram to boost speed (which to some of us is an old trick hehe)

ramdisk is a virtual disk that you can use it like normal disk, only super fast in reads/writes. you can try one out by getting a copy of softperfect ramdisk. imo this is one of the best ramdisk software i have used.

to be frank, the risks are there. from my limited experience, the software itself is very stable. i have yet to have misfortunes of any sort with w7/8/8.1 (i use it in my desktop also )

uh? one good thing about ram cache is to reduce writes to the ssd. (well, at least for primocache. i'm not sure about others)

right, for common usage you won't feel the difference (i guess getting past certain points nothing else matters to us humans anymore )

.. and yes, always look at real word performance. (this is why up to this point i guess most decent ssd's will be fine) most of the times we don't sit and stare at the running benchmark software to live so why bother hehehe.

that's weird. 16gb is kind of abundant for most people. many settle with 8gb.

i have sufficient amount of ram so i never experienced this before. i have 80% of ram in use. (ramdisk and cache)

.. that's insane

wow i totally forgot about this. thanks man running it now.

edit: the restore process took some time. it's best to run the process without anything else running, or it will run very slowly.

at first glance, everything is back to normal. both are working at good speed for now. let's see if something get slowed down after some times.

840 EVO sata:


840 EVO msata:




This post has been edited by horns: Oct 15 2014, 07:42 PM

maybe i'm wrong, but it seemed that everything is running snappier than these 840 evo were first used.

let's observe after a few months of use.

by the way, princeb0b0, new drives get new controller, and some increments in read/write speeds. (plextor drives are not speed demons. however they are stable.) i think you will find no difference in common usage.

it really depends on how you see things. from the angle of performance/speed alone, then yes, consumer ssd's might always be faster, in general. however, enterprise ssd's are not speed centric. they care about endurance more than anything.

consumer ssd's typically has a endurance rating of 72tb tbw. (now we see 150tb tbw). for enterprise ssd's the numbers are many folds than that. a samsung sm843t 480gb has a 8pb tbw. (equivalent to 8tb writes per day for 3 years). the speedier version, sm843 480gb has a 4pb tbw. (it's 4tb writes per day for 3 years). intel s3700 400gb has a 10 drive writes per day, for 5 years.

(things change for nvme ssd's, which they have both speed and endurance, but with a premium price. for now 1x intel dc p3700 800gb is priced more than an aw18 with the highest stock specs hehe)

tbh consumers don't need all the endurance. we tend to swap them out from time to time, even before they get signs of failure (e.g. upgrades to higher capacity drives). just remember they are aimed for general use. use only their strengths and avoid their weaknesses and everything will be fine.

m.2 ssd's are not bad if they make it pci-e x4 compliant. samsung already released a pci-e 2.0 x4 m.2 ssd for oem called xp941 (i think it is the only one with pci-e x4 full lanes). i have a tiny 128gb variant in my current desktop. great speed as boot drive. (1GB/s reads, 400MB/s writes)

i will pick intel 530 (mlc chips, 5 yrs warranty. imo this is kind of the best value drive for now).

if you looked for speed only, 840 evo might be good for you with rapid mode on. (note this is a tlc drive. the other two have mlc)

the above is solely personal preference. mx100 is not a bad drive, but it's better to consider its 512gb over 256gb.

a decent performance drive. there is nothing wrong with it for general use.

and, please check the price, at least from the price lists published at lyn. imo the price should fall under 300.

rapid mode does help. it gives you snappier user experience. these ram cache also helps in reducing writes to ssd. to give you a very rough idea of how much writes it can save (depending on usage):



the con's. it's ram-based, so power loss might cause you troubles. if you are worried, use it only on laptops. as long as the area has good power conditions, it's relatively fine. if you're not sure, then get a ups. (i use ram cache extensively on my desktops without ups for years. no issues so far in my areas. home and office.)

yes something like data corruptions. however i think you can see the bigger picture: much higher risks of potential damage to computer parts if power loss is frequent. imo that is the actual bigger problem than data corruption. for all my work and stuff, i do use cloud storage. the rest i am not that concerned.

tbh, it's good to have an ups as preventive measures. save you from a lot of problems later.

right. if it's just a boot drive, you can always create the latest system image backups whenever you have done windows/driver updates. this way you save a lot of times to reinstall os and apps, then the boring time to wait for gb's of windows/apps updates. with ssd's and boot-drive only restores, it should be all good to go under 15 minutes, with everything from os to apps ready to use.

prevention is always better than cure. spend a bit of time doing these now can save you a lot of time later

best bang for buck.. intel 530? (mlc chip, 5yrs of warranty) it's better you check those price lists to confirm.

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i'm using w8.1. there is a system image tool in windows that can create a snapshot of your os instance. everything, including the os, apps, settings, and user files in the current system will be saved into the image. you can use this system image to perform restores if something bad happen to your current os. (along with everything that's backed up)

normally i use command-line backup via wbAdmin (running in privileged powershell):


where i back my os-only drive up, including relevant system partitions to make the restored os to boot properly. note that F: is my backup drive (an external hdd storage, usb-based)

i happened to do a backup image now. here's the screenshot:



i think a bit of google you should find more detailed tutorials about the topic.

you should go for crucial mx100 512gb. it's now below MYR 900.00.

rapid mode can be much faster when you have more power cpu and higher-clocked ram.

normally sata ssd's are much cheaper because they are fairly common now. newer technologies like m.2 are relatively expensive (pci-e x4 ssd is about 2 times the price of sata ones), however it's still the best option for speed in a year or two, before we have the chance to use nvme ssd. (looking at the trend of many laptops released this year have already implemented pci-e x4 m.2 slots)

sata express. well, hopefully it will survive.

haha.. still, new techs are always the main motivations to many of us to move forward

to many, there is really no need to go for latest techs. for general use, sata ssd is more than sufficient imo (even without ram cache). they can just enjoy cheaper technologies, without the need to wait for new techs. they just start getting these much faster ssd's when their price are much affordable. (and to be frank, they miss nothing in the process). i have tested m.2 ssd with ram cache. that's why i think up to certain points of speed, we cannot see the differences already (except for benchmarking).

sata is apparently not for ssd, but it is still a mature technology for hdd. since hdd is the cheapest storage device available, i believe sata will not phase out that soon. (compared to rapidly evolving ssd techs)

yes. there are still a lot of rooms for improvement in technologies surrounding ssd. some were already discovered but yet to be implemented. then, after speed we still want much better endurance and reliability, all at the affordable price. it's a long way to go before ssd gets really matured.

it's better to grab what we can now and have fun first, rather than waiting for the next best thing. (.. for like forever)

ocz. they could have done very well, except for a number of times that they did a number of things previously that made people lose faith in them.

i am still using their vertex 4. it's getting slower these days so a secure erase will be done when i have some time.

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i think 850 pro with 10 years of warranty is great. still haven't had time to play with mine :/

maybe it has something to do with the slow read bug found out a month ago. it's fixed a week ago but it's still early to draw conclusions whether the fix is actually a good one. (i have 2x 512gb, so far so good )

haha.. just have fun bro

no you only need to run the tool once bro

those defragment tools are hdd defragmentation tool, not ssd-based. yeah it writes a lot to your ssd. the idea was to rewrite everything so that samsung 840 evo is aware of the changes and treat old files as new. samsung magician does nothing to fix the bug unfortunately.

er.. i think it's about 20 minutes for each? my drives are quite empty.