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post Feb 9 2015, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 9 2015, 01:43 PM)
I'm looking at the price of Samsung 850 Pro 250GB vs Plextor M6E M.2 256GB. Base on the spec, M6E M.2 256GB should smoke 850 Pro 250GB at cheaper price for Z97 motherboard.

Did I miss anything?

Also,  C-Zone selling Lite-On SSD cheap.
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2 things: samsung 850 pro has a 10-year warranty, and m6e has the very potential overheating issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hhdWwvh5kI

source: http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/...lification-575/


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post Feb 9 2015, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Feb 9 2015, 03:29 PM)
2 things: samsung 850 pro has a 10-year warranty, and m6e has the very potential overheating issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hhdWwvh5kI

source: http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/...lification-575/
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Wah, so hot. Scary. Gotta slap a heatsink with removeable thermal tape for long term use just to keep the warranty.

10 years or not, 850 Pro is still overpriced for a SATA 6 Gbps.
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post Feb 9 2015, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 9 2015, 04:13 PM)
Wah, so hot. Scary. Gotta slap a heatsink with removeable thermal tape for long term use just to keep the warranty.

10 years or not, 850 Pro is still overpriced for a SATA 6 Gbps.
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scary leh? biggrin.gif i am running xp941 on a pcie adapter with heat sink too after watching this one. the controller and nand flash chips are covered with thermal pads lol

yeah you can say 850 pro is overpriced, even if it comes with a 10-year warranty. however it's still one of if not the best as of now for consumer sata ssd smile.gif
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post Feb 9 2015, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Feb 9 2015, 06:57 PM)
scary leh? biggrin.gif i am running xp941 on a pcie adapter with heat sink too after watching this one. the controller and nand flash chips are covered with thermal pads lol

yeah you can say 850 pro is overpriced, even if it comes with a 10-year warranty. however it's still one of if not the best as of now for consumer sata ssd smile.gif
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Yup, the 850 PRO is one of the best consumer SATA SSDs out there, though the price tag is too high... laugh.gif
Still, if you can afford it, why not? brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Feb 9 2015, 08:14 PM)
Yup, the 850 PRO is one of the best consumer SATA SSDs out there, though the price tag is too high... laugh.gif
Still, if you can afford it, why not? brows.gif brows.gif
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No thanks. I'll take M2 SSD over that any day. Samsung charging 850 Pro high for people without Z97 board.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 9 2015, 09:29 PM)
No thanks. I'll take M2 SSD over that any day. Samsung charging 850 Pro high for people without Z97 board.
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I know some people (including me) doesn't have a board with m2... whistling.gif

Even some Z97 doesn't come with m2 slots... Now m2 drives are too expensive for me. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Feb 9 2015, 09:41 PM)
I know some people (including me) doesn't have a board with m2... whistling.gif

Even some Z97 doesn't come with m2 slots...  Now m2 drives are too expensive for me. sweat.gif
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Yeah, but 850 Pro 250GB SSD is higher than Plextor M6E 256GB M2. It isn't that expensive compare to that overpriced Samsung.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 9 2015, 09:46 PM)
Yeah, but 850 Pro 250GB SSD is higher than Plextor M6E 256GB M2. It isn't that expensive compare to that overpriced Samsung.
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Well, for a SATA SSD, the benchmarks are indeed impressive:

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It's actually faster than a M2 SSD. icon_idea.gif

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/18900...money-can-buy/2
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Feb 9 2015, 10:00 PM)
Well, for a SATA SSD, the benchmarks are indeed impressive:

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It's actually faster than a M2 SSD. icon_idea.gif

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/18900...money-can-buy/2
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Add Plexturbo and Primocache to the mix. Plexturbo now supports m6e
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 9 2015, 10:23 PM)
Add Plexturbo and Primocache to the mix. Plexturbo now supports m6e
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hmm.gif Fair enough, but wasn't that M2 drives will reduce the available bandwidth of PCI-E slots? hmm.gif
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post Feb 9 2015, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 9 2015, 09:29 PM)
No thanks. I'll take M2 SSD over that any day. Samsung charging 850 Pro high for people without Z97 board.
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actually there is another better way imo. for ahci type of pcie ssd, i think it's cheaper to run 2x 256gb sata ssd raid0 for more speed and space. for nvme type, we need to check the price first. it will take 4x sata ssd raid0 to get the performance of 1x pcie 3.0 x4 nvme ssd.

due to the precious limited pcie lanes in z97 (well depending on how you use them), i think it's more practical also for mainstream systems like z97. honestly, i think x99 systems is a better platform to use m.2 ssds, because of the same reason.

QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Feb 9 2015, 09:41 PM)
I know some people (including me) doesn't have a board with m2... whistling.gif

Even some Z97 doesn't come with m2 slots...  Now m2 drives are too expensive for me. sweat.gif
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see above biggrin.gif

after i have built up my storage, i will make my systems as minimal as possible. for now, i have a single m.2 as OS-only drive, 2x sata ssds for apps and games, and 2x hdd for storage. i intend to reduce it to have only 1x hdd, solely for downloads only.

QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Feb 9 2015, 10:00 PM)
Well, for a SATA SSD, the benchmarks are indeed impressive:

user posted image

It's actually faster than a M2 SSD. icon_idea.gif

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/18900...money-can-buy/2
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no. actually plextor's ram caching can run even faster. i do run primocache on top of m.2 ssd. it's even more responsive than without it.
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QUOTE(horns @ Feb 9 2015, 10:39 PM)
actually there is another better way imo. for ahci type of pcie ssd, i think it's cheaper to run 2x 256gb sata ssd raid0 for more speed and space. for nvme type, we need to check the price first. it will take 4x sata ssd raid0 to get the performance of 1x pcie 3.0 x4 nvme ssd.

due to the precious limited pcie lanes in z97 (well depending on how you use them), i think it's more practical also for mainstream systems like z97. honestly, i think x99 systems is a better platform to use m.2 ssds, because of the same reason.
see above biggrin.gif

after i have built up my storage, i will make my systems as minimal as possible. for now, i have a single m.2 as OS-only drive, 2x sata ssds for apps and games, and 2x hdd for storage. i intend to reduce it to have only 1x hdd, solely for downloads only.
no. actually plextor's ram caching can run even faster. i do run primocache on top of m.2 ssd. it's even more responsive than without it.
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So, it's Plextor's own take of Samsung's Rapid Mode? hmm.gif

Not really familiar with Plextor drives... blush.gif
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Feb 9 2015, 10:45 PM)
So, it's Plextor's own take of Samsung's Rapid Mode? hmm.gif

Not really familiar with Plextor drives... blush.gif
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it's ram basically. different cache implementations will have different outcomes, speed included. there are risks in it. fortunately, there is no much to worry about if the power supply in your area is stable enough.

plextor is one of my favorites. to me, their drives are like crucial, but plextor is more generous. (m5pro/m6pro has 5-year warranty, while crucial m550 has only 3. also, crucial drive tbw is fixed at 72tb, no matter how large is the capacity)
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QUOTE(horns @ Feb 9 2015, 11:00 PM)
it's ram basically. different cache implementations will have different outcomes, speed included. there are risks in it. fortunately, there is no much to worry about if the power supply in your area is stable enough.

plextor is one of my favorites. to me, their drives are like crucial, but plextor is more generous. (m5pro/m6pro has 5-year warranty, while crucial m550 has only 3. also, crucial drive tbw is fixed at 72tb, no matter how large is the capacity)
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hmm.gif I wonder they have mSATA drives? hmm.gif

I kinda like Crucial drives, especially their MX100... blush.gif

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Feb 9 2015, 11:02 PM)
hmm.gif  I wonder they have mSATA drives? hmm.gif

I kinda like Crucial drives, especially their MX100... blush.gif
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yeah plextor produces msata drives, too. the latest i think is plextor m6m.

hahaha everyone has their own preferences. there is a new replacement for mx100, mx200. below mx200 there is a bx100. i know some friends that still run their systems with crucial m4 raid0, still alive and kicking.

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This thing is RM380 from C-Zone

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This is essentially Plextor M5 Pro but with 3 years warranty.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1453688/liteon-...e-badge-plextor

Got a pair of it for RAID 0 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 10 2015, 02:29 PM)
This thing is RM380 from C-Zone

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This is essentially Plextor M5 Pro but with 3 years warranty.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1453688/liteon-...e-badge-plextor

Got a pair of it for RAID 0 tongue.gif
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wow this is a nice deal indeed biggrin.gif that's what i am saying, spend less for more speed and space than m.2 lol!

now you makes me feel very itchy :/

edit: about ssd raid, here are something that you guys might wanna know. previously i tried two things with my asus.g55:

1. can different sata connections be set up as raid? (1x normal sata port, 1x msata port; both running sata3)
2. can we use different sata ssds from different brands for raid? (1x plextor m5m, 1x ocz vertex 4; both are 256gb)

the answer to all the above is: yes. the raid 0 worked flawlessly biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(horns @ Feb 10 2015, 03:22 PM)
wow this is a nice deal indeed biggrin.gif that's what i am saying, spend less for more speed and space than m.2 lol!

now you makes me feel very itchy :/

edit: about ssd raid, here are something that you guys might wanna know. previously i tried two things with my asus.g55:

1. can different sata connections be set up as raid? (1x normal sata port, 1x msata port; both running sata3)
2. can we use different sata ssds from different brands for raid? (1x plextor m5m, 1x ocz vertex 4; both are 256gb)

the answer to all the above is: yes. the raid 0 worked flawlessly biggrin.gif
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Yes, poison you!

The RAID part, not recommended to pair with different brand or spec. The speed will double but it adds up based on slower drive.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 10 2015, 02:29 PM)
This thing is RM380 from C-Zone

Attached Image

This is essentially Plextor M5 Pro but with 3 years warranty.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1453688/liteon-...e-badge-plextor

Got a pair of it for RAID 0 tongue.gif
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The capacity and the price for the SSD.. shocking.gif drool.gif Nice deal. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 10 2015, 02:29 PM)
This thing is RM380 from C-Zone

Attached Image

This is essentially Plextor M5 Pro but with 3 years warranty.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1453688/liteon-...e-badge-plextor

Got a pair of it for RAID 0 tongue.gif
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LOL
i bought it without knowing that is a rebadge of M5 Pro

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