and may i know what kind of car r u driving currently?u buy it urself or how?

Another Proton Basher Thread.

Dont you all get bored.

Exactly my point. Both are made to satisfy different markets. Just so happens that the "comfort" market seems to be the majority, and the MONEY goes to P2. P1 gets to kick its CEO and swallow its words. That's the real world - unless you're ferrari (who was bought over by Fiat), you just have to make cars that sell, not cars that fun to drive but doesn't serve the majority.

Bad planning on this one, Proton.

Nope. Its only right to bash proton, and thank god the new CEO is finally responding to common complaints. Without criticism nobody will grow. Without the bashes nobody would know the various defects of Gen2 underneath that beautiful shell, nor anybody would know the hoo-haa TUV quality check is nothing more than just a stupid parody of what real quality is.

tiara had a bad 2nd hand value. savvy not even in 2nd hand sales yet.
can brief a bit how would it be like that too?

yeah, agreed...

btw soggie, the TUV audit on savvy is still under evaluation, till this day. I dont know whether savvy has passed all the test. Already you can see protong stamp all TUV certified logo to Savvy batches. Another con job by Proton?


anyone to prove me wrong?

um.. some obvious example I know..

The more ppl buy that model the cheaper will be for spare parts and maintenance. Car depreciation will be lower (which is a good thing) bcoz ppl still wants it. Thats for MyVi.

The less ppl buy that model the more expensive for spare parts & maintenance. Especially the AMT gearbox. ( i heard it cost a bomb to replace it ). Car depreciation is higher (which is a nightmare, unless you want to stay with the car forever, still maintanence will kill you). Thats Savvy.

I duno much abt savvy maintenance and parts but I DO know their 2nd hand value is gone. Comments?

Changing the auto gear box ino ther cars is cheap meh? it goes into a couple of thousands of ringgit..since AMT use exacly the same gearbox, changing the robotic cluth actuator is even cheaper than normal whole autobox

Typical basher la how do you know the second hand value will be low when I see there are more and more Savvy's..got that

Renault Clio wins awardsa again..and the D4F engine is a proven engine. Everything French is bad in the eyes of pommies...think global not just silly stuffs from top gear alone.


TUV will not simply let proton use it's name. sigh..same old stuffs used when

Later I post. So if you said like that means MyVI is totally a boring car la... only made to move people from point A to point B...like some jeremy said this kind of car has no souls.

later i post bz.

RM200+ for original CVjoint driveshaft and RM195 for a whole set of rear lamp from EON... not a bad price it seems.

no ideal what will happen. coz savvy was meant to be tiara replacement model so i just took their words on this. let's pray savvy will be very fuel ecomony to run (better than all those k cars in the market now) because, well, just imagine. after 5 years time, you have 30k to spend on an used car. you ended up in a 2nd hand car dealer and you will be look at all those wira, iswara, satria, kelisa, kenari, myvi and savvy. if you're looking for 4 proper seats and a big boot, you will go for a saloon. if you're not interested in having more space, for sure you will get the one with best fuel ecomomy. why would you have a savvy if its not going to be cheaper to run than other small car? as you can see, at the moment most people went for myvi (for whatever reason), after 5 years time, they would still prefer myvi unless it turns out to be very problematic. again, why would you have a savvy? lotus developed suspension? i guess you won't be looking at this isn't it? how savvy going attract buyers on the 2nd hand market that time? erm.. simple, cut price.

just my 2 cents.

re-read the post!!...yeahh..ur right..my mistake!..

If that soo will jeremy clarkson says the new proton savvy has a soul? I doubt he gonna drive it.

n btw, what awards the renault clio has won? What i know is the new renault clio got a award for european car of the year, but if i not mistaken it isnt judge frm the 1.2 renault engine the savvy is using now. Can u clarify me on that?

On the other hand, its i dont like proton savvy, just that i prefer the gen2 much more than the savvy, in terms of looks , perfomance and fun to drive.

This post has been edited by travis_ckf: May 12 2006, 04:07 PM

yea i agree with that.

Let hypermount read this and see what he will say. Anyhow soggie has a point thqt i strongly agree!

the 1.2 renault engine is nothing good too IMO, heard that (don't know true or not)proton built this savvy model is because of the contract they signed with renault which requires them to buy a certain amount of engines from them.
tiara failed, so savvy takes over..
but it's just rumours that i heard,don't bash me )

i dislike sutera too..i think it's worse than savvy

Tiara is a project collaboration with Citroen not renault.

hey this is speculating ......... this is rumours that you shouldnt listen to .......

They use Renault's 1.2L engine bcoz they cant fit in Campro into Savvy coz Campro is too big

All cars including protons? my fren's saga starting to tremble by 130/km

A basher

Savvy 1.2AMT MTC 42k++, Myvi 1.3EZ MTC 46k++. Difference 3.5k++

N another basher

N y shouldn't Savvy be selling good? Majority of the reviews(by those who driven it) doesn't prove bad..

Though r ppl praise it but some just don wanna buy the praises. Coz the name of PROTON. Halo...give a chance la...u guys do hope that our national car can be a good n value to $ car right? But till when can u judge it if u don drive it? If 10 yrs down the road after Poton came out with few more design but u still haven test drive yet looking down at it then Proton will nvr be good enough for u...if u got the $ then just get a Benz or BMW or whatever luxury or sport car that u really think perfect la.

This post has been edited by eivan120: May 12 2006, 10:55 PM

but Perdana v6 is expensive for me.i like the Perdana but looking at the price tag... better buy new Civic 1.8