Clock for clock, you may see 2-5% improvement in performance (depends on which benchmark you read).
Lower power consumption, if everything remain the same, may also leads to better thermal profile for the laptop.
As TJ like to say:
"Buy if you need it now. Wait if you can."

haswell isnt focus just only for battery life, even performance improvement. but it depends on personal preferences, as a processor never helps in heavy gaming.

Hi, please suggest me a laptop, thnx

1. Preferred Brand
None

2. Budget
RM1500

3. Usage
Office, AutoCAD, Solidwork, Online Gaming

4. Preferred laptop/screen size
13 or 14 inch

It is not actually, well I am not obsessive about 4K, but what I have at home now is a basic HTPC which run on AMD A6 (FM1) chip, which the built-in graphic is more than enough to run full HD videos via XBMC. I connect it to LCD TV with no problem whatsoever.

So I do collect some video in mkv file format, which include some movie documentaries already shot in 4K, but I only download it in its lesser format. Eg. Timescape (shot and released in 4K, bluray, and another format in betw these two, not sure how to call that). Samsara too, is shot in 8K, but released it in 4K and bluray format too. A6 chip handle that Timescape file very well, but in 4K, it lags badly.

Its the future format for sure, and already some game can be played in 4K format, although at present they can only be played in only 10 fps at 4K. But since I am not a gamer, so the only thing that interest me is video play only.

I am looking for a tablet hybrid pc for my wife actually. But out of interest just to ask about the issue among the regular pros about the hardware. I am not an IT specialist at all.

No I don't expect any tablet will be able to play 4K file whatsoever at present. Since hinge design is not recommended for regular touch screen function, I think I will skip laptop for my wife.

Hope it helps.

ps: Timescape, do search its website, can be bought in 4K resolution for a fees. I bought the lesser format one online. Btw, youtube do have 4K video files as well. Some handphone like Nokia Pureview 808, is able to shoot photo (not video) in 41 megapixel. With that capacity and its time lapse shooting function built-in, already there is a timelapse video shot entirely with that handphone and displayed in 4K resolution. That is done without upscaling. Anyway I do take note of that because my wife's handphone happened to be that pureview 808. So its our toy really.

Erm, are you high bro? Yea I only want to spend around RM1k for a portable laptop that will be thrown around a lot. Definitely not as rich as you, so won't spend RM10k of my hard earned money on something that I intend to use only during work which compared to hell, might be confusing. Keep the sarcasm to yourself, might save your life.

Rant apart, thanks a lot for your recommendation. Cheers.

When doing work, I tend to leave tons of windows open and I hate it when it lags. I assume my current target laptops with i5 would handle it easily, haswell or not haswell. And I have a very powerful desktop at work, so I may or may not bring any work to my laptop.

But let’s say I have targeted a few laptops, and if haswell reaches those, will the price be significantly increased? Those laptops are just marginally in my budget.

Like Japanese, aren't you?
Engineering software normally need good CPU, and if your software involve some 3D rendering, you need good GPU (even if you don't game).

Fujitsu
LH772, i5-3210M + nVIdia GT640LE@RM3079 [ONKYO], W7HP, color: Black/White/Pink, NumPad
LH772, i7-3612QM + nVidia GT640LE@RM3369 [ONKYO], W7HP, color: Black/White/Pink NumPad

Toshiba
Satellite L40-AS109Xb/G/W, i5-3337U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2199[Onkyo], 4GB, 750GB, 3 years local warranty; colors: Blue/gold/white
Satellite P840-1004X, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT630M@RM2999[harman/kardon], 4GB, 750GB, OD, W8; backlit keyboard; 3 years local warranty
Satellite Pro L840-2010X, i5-3230M + AMD HD7670M@RM2499, 4GB, 750GB, W7P/W8P; 3 years local warranty; color:silver
Tecra-R940-2021X, i7-3540M + AMD HD7570M@RM4999[2.15kg], W7P/W8P, 4GB, 640GB (7200rpm), 3 years international (local onsite) warranty, Microsoft Office HOme & Business 2013; color:black
Satellite L50-A100X/XW, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT740M@RM2199[Onkyo], 4GB, 750GB, W8SL; 3 years local warranty; colors:silver/white
Satellite P50t-A102X, i7-3547U + Nvidia GT740M + (1366x768; touch)@RM3899[harman/kardon], 8GB, 1TB, W8SL; 3 years local warranty (1st year on-site); color: silver

Not many of the above are matte screen though

Prices are RSP, negotiable.

This post has been edited by nexus2238: Jul 17 2013, 10:04 AM

Nope, not high in any sense of the word.

But you need to appreciate why there "is" a recommended format. Without your almighty "price" indicator, nobody know how much you are willing to spend, and will not be able to recommend anything meaningful to you.
So by following some nice internet etiquette, you could save lots of hassle.
Btw, the most expensive 10/11" laptop / hybrid in Malaysia right now cost ~ RM6k. And no, I don't consider myself "rich", but thanks for the compliment.

I am living my life fine, thanks for your kind advice

And I find it amusing that you are being condescending in your reply to TJ. Lighten up and also pay attention to what you are doing, that really save life (supported by quite a few medical research).

This post has been edited by nexus2238: Jul 17 2013, 10:16 AM

I didn't even bothered to reply him man
My friend called me stupid for giving free recommendations: Once you offer free recommendations to people... people will expect its your "job" now to "serve" them

This post has been edited by [PF] T.J.: Jul 17 2013, 10:13 AM

Can't really expect too much from a RM1.5k notebook, but I guess these will be the best pick
14"
Dell Inspiron 14 (3420), i3-3110M + Nvidia GT625M@RM1599[2.1kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8
HP Pavilion G4-2110TU, i3-3110M + Intel HD4000@RM1599, 2GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W7HP

If you don't mind installing Windows yourself, this will be a good choice too
14"
Lenovo
G480, i5-3230M + Intel HD4000@RM1499, 2GB, 500GB (5400rpm), FreeDOS
G400s, i5-3230M + Intel HD4000@RM1599, 4GB, 500GB, FreeDOS
G400s, i3-3110M + Nvidia GT720M@RM1449, 4GB, 500GB, FreeDOS

Price in RRP, negotiable ya~

1. Preferred Brand - Any brand as long as I get the best value for money spent.. (prefer better quality if available)
2. Budget - Around RM 4000+-
3. Usage - surfing,light gaming, documents, fast
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - Above 13'-15'
5. Light Weight and portable. Ultrabook perhaps? And prefer haswell processor (asking haswell and ivy bridge price and performance diff..)

Since no one is doing it, let me first express our gratitude for you lots who volunteer time to recommend laptops. Its not easy for layman to grasp the knowlege of laptops in the market and price specs combination.

Thanks for all your effort guys. Please don't mind us who at times forgot that you are doing it without fees and you are also still human like us. Just focus on the issue at hand and life can be a much better place for all of us.

ps: unless you are paid as red bean army ? hmmm....

yes, they will increase. assuming, an ivy bridge Y400 priced at RM2799, and Y410p at RM2899, it is a RM100 difference. since the release of haswell processors, every computer components had a price hike.

im working at a computer shop, so i know.

Let me clear things up. 10 inch laptop, not a lot in the wilds right? Most are almost evenly priced among all the brands, correct? Unless I am retarded and there are millions of 10 inch laptops. No? So I didn't bother to put the brands and budget. There.

Well about that, I think you guys misunderstood me. It was meant as a playful remark, you took it the other way around and paint it black. But I guess playfulness is a big sin here huh? Well that being said, I sincerely apologize to you and PJ for my ignorance. Cheers and keep doing what you are doing.

Btw PJ, sorry if I treated you as my employee. That is how you feel right? Lol.

I do know there are some source material in 4k format.
The issue is that for it to be a point of consideration in any buying decision, the hardware / software / material eco-system must thrive.

Right now, for all the mkv video format that you have, you don't have a proper big screen TV to show it. (sorry, I make an assumption that you haven't bought a 4k TV )

Unless your eyes is specially sensitive, for TV / display in the 42" or below, you will have a hard time telling HD source (720p) apart from FHD (1080p) source materials.

To fully appreciate 4k video, you really need big big screen. That's why you see most of the 4k TV demo set are from 60" and above.

So don't sweat it on 4k video support in small screen.

And to answer your question, Intel HD4000 (ivy bridge IGPU) can decode 4k video. The problem is that how to output? Apparently using current standard, we need 2 Display Port concurrently, and NO laptop / hybrid model has 2 Display Port, for you to connect and transmit 4k signal to any display that support 4k resolution.

As for Haswell IGPU (42/44/46/5000), no problem decoding 4k source file. Can shot that out through a single Display Port / HDMI to display/TV that support 4k resolution.

This post has been edited by nexus2238: Jul 17 2013, 11:29 AM

News for you. 10" is really not the realm of cheap "netbook" anymore. In fact, the big netbook brand, Acer/Asus/HP/Lenovo is stopping netbook production 1 by 1.
There are LOTS of 10/11" or below hybrid / tablets / laptops in the market right now. This is a new playground, mobility being the king.
Brands are launching lots of models / configuration to see which form factor, and what price point work.
With W8 pushing touchscreen, you'll find lots of funny things.
Try to search for:
Lenovo Yoga, Lenovo Helix, Lenovo Twist, Dell XPS12, Asus Taichi, Samsung ATIV, Sony Viao SVD112, and these are the old model.
In fact, I'll say the "traditional laptop" form factor in 10" is in the minority right now.

13/14/15/17" is pretty much stable form factor (as of now)
Price is actually most "bunch up" among the 13", 17" in Malaysia. The rest could have a wide spread.

This post has been edited by nexus2238: Jul 17 2013, 11:42 AM

is this good?
Dell Inspiron 14R, i3-4010U + Intel HD4400@RM1549 [2.32kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W8 , 4 cell

Wow, thanks. Should have gotten slightly cheaper targets then. But i'll need a laptop by next month, so, I probably won't wait

stop being an arse please. people had been spending time on giving recommendations for you, but you treated them like they are getting paid or else. even nexus and i dont even get paid for volunteering in laptop recommendations and i even bothered myself to check around LYN even though im on the work. if you are not happy enough, you can have a look at the laptop catalog at here yourself. so my conclusion is, please be nice to people if you want people to be nice with you.

In my opinion, actually netbook do have its own market. Compared with 14 inch cheap laptop, netbook still have own advantages like weight and portability. Some granny users, like my dad, he will still go for netbook due to light-weight and good battery life.

But the main reason of elimination of netbook not because of crap ATOM processors nor pricing, is because of Windows 8 Metro Apps cannot support resolution lower than 1366 x 768 (but there's a glitches) , and no "special" edition of Windows 8 like W7 Starter made for netbook, hence manufacturer have no choice to eliminate it.