Led have sharp glare, and can damage eye. Someone post a link here somewhere. Cfl still cheap and good.
LED LED LED LED, Lets talk about LED
LED LED LED LED, Lets talk about LED
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Jul 4 2013, 08:14 PM
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Led have sharp glare, and can damage eye. Someone post a link here somewhere. Cfl still cheap and good.
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Jul 5 2013, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(zealless @ Jul 5 2013, 12:13 PM) well, lets get a bit technical, Both are important. You have good lux at all the area or At a focus point? A good living room light must have large area of same lux measurement. To have that you must have high lumen. "Assuming both led and cfl have same reflector"what is your living room size, color of wall, flooring color, any mirror of reflective material on wall, windows area i think your case if normal reading and studying , about 350 lux should be very sufficient. ignore the lumen, because if you have a high lumen bulb, with bad reflector, you get low lux always as design for lux , not lumen |
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Jul 5 2013, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(zealless @ Jul 5 2013, 01:53 PM) Yes, thats why furniture layout is important, you see if you measure lux at the edge of the wall, you reading will suck , especially next to cabinet If using cfl can achieve the consistent lux in high area, vs using led that need additional mr16 which can damage eyes. Which one sound reasonable?usually we design base on the usable area, not the whole room with same lux we can design that with addition MR16 to light up those area, but its all down to budget well, CFL you need reflector, LED not much use of the reflector 180 degree, unless your bulb is a 270 degree bulb then yes, with some reflector it will be useful Maybe you can call me paranoid, I will only use led after someone have used it more than 10years without changing the bulbs and driver. Because with cfl I can get 10 years life span for the bulbs and ballast, and cheaper too. |
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Jul 5 2013, 03:25 PM
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if someone have a new LED measure it when is new, and after 1000 hours measure it, and 10,000 measure again. The LED can last but brightness may not.
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Jul 5 2013, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 5 2013, 03:48 PM) Last time no meter. Cannot check. If you got a brand new un-used LED put it on and measure. So you now have new bulb reading and 3600 hours LED bulb reading Now got meter, after run for a yrs with 10hr/day read at 135lux eye level. (about 1meter from the bulb) If using conversion with bulb spec 575lumens at 1meter and 120angle, the lux is 183lux. So it lower abit or around that reading. |
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Jul 6 2013, 04:15 PM
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Quality stuff need to pay. Don't expect quality stuff cost peanut.
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Jul 16 2013, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(Laine @ Jul 16 2013, 12:42 PM) hi, based on your experience, does the above proposed lighting points looks ok? Wow 10 LED light for living room? How many switch to control the 10 LED light? and do you have L box? 10 downlight in the living area seems too much to us. do you sell 9w square led downlight? thanks. My house the living room is about the same, I only have 6 CFL downlight, and I have another set of L box T5 light. T5 hardly switch on unless I need bright, like party. |
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