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LED LED LED LED, Lets talk about LED
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Maknusia
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Jul 4 2013, 04:06 PM
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End of the day it comes to price. Normal 25w energy saver would cost about RM 15 (average), so how much would equivalent (1000lux) bulb cost? Anything more than 2x the time price, is not worth it for practical use.
Unless you have 24X7 lights with monthly bill of 3-10k; only then its worth for a replacement.
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Maknusia
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Jul 4 2013, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(zealless @ Jul 4 2013, 04:55 PM) True, because the market importing "budget" LED lights because people reluctant to pay money to try the good quality ones, for example YEXX brand and EVAXXX brand selling RM80 for 16watt 6" light , my brand - Aztech selling RM128, Philip about RM140 there are quality LED lights, but not a lot of people will pay for it other than commercial client Thats not the consumer's problem right?! Its the pricing problem, when we can get energy-saving bulbs at rm10; whereas LED is RM120. Read my comments above.
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Maknusia
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Jul 4 2013, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(zealless @ Jul 4 2013, 05:05 PM) Well a 25W PLCE CFL is about RM17 retail with brand, is about 1100 lumen, i don't think is lux - 44 lumen / watt 6W LED branded, RM39 bulb give you about 550 lumen - 91 lumen/watt that calculation shows very efficient in energy saving, and normal house hold common area is about 200 lux design, which is very easy to achieve using LED, i will say energy saving is over design and waste energy. plus LED have no IR and UV ... CFL have mercury in it PLCE lifespand 7000 hours, LED 35,000 hours well that alone justify the money right, it last 5 times longer with 1 - 2 year warranty ? PLCE no warranty Sorry bang for the confusion; I meant lumen and not lux. so how much is 1000 lumen LED?
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Maknusia
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Jul 4 2013, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(zealless @ Jul 4 2013, 05:17 PM) depends on size and type of LED and brand, good quality ones 4" about 90 + 6" about 130 + spot MR16 , 90 + but why you need 1000 lumen in residential area, usually commercial design will ask that kind of lumen normal 600 - 800 is very good because house have low ceiling in malaysia right now my panasonic spec as in the link http://www.panasonic.com.my/wps/portal/hom...E27HDEFD22E65HDSo whats the equivalent price? And thanks for discussion. My hall is kinda big and my hubby said its better to have this lumen, and I do agree, since my kids are saying its easier to read. One other problem with LED is its very sharp on eyes, if one to look at it directly.
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Maknusia
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Jul 5 2013, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(zealless @ Jul 5 2013, 12:13 PM) well, lets get a bit technical, what is your living room size, color of wall, flooring color, any mirror of reflective material on wall, windows area i think your case if normal reading and studying , about 350 lux should be very sufficient. ignore the lumen, because if you have a high lumen bulb, with bad reflector, you get low lux always as design for lux , not lumen right now we have 3 of this panasonic CFL bulbs. each is RM10 (22w X 3) room size is roughly 12 X 15. ceiling height is 8 feet room color, light blue with one side of the wall is sliding glass door (10 feet) The Ceiling light is almost similar to this; except its with 3 lights http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/50231951/
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