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SUSDorky
post Jul 3 2013, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 3 2013, 10:47 PM)
99.9999999999% of any human's lifespan is used on doing things for oneself

when you get hungry, will you go feed someone else or will you feed yourself first ?

when you are cold, will you put more clothing on yourself or will you give the clothing to other ppl ?

if you see a leng loi, and like her, do you think of "how I can get her" or do you think of "how to get that leng loi for my best friend" ?

if you see someone taking your money, do you stop them from doing so, or do you tell them that, over there, i got even more money, please enjoy yourself, go get more ?
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That is why there is a very beautiful Christian parable about a person being taken on a tour to hell and heaven by an angel and he was shown people in hell suffer because they are all lacking but only think of helping themselves but in heaven everyone enjoy despite equally lacking but because they think of helping each others. Simple parable and simple lesson. But nobody give a hoot to understand and reflect on it. A hamsap lou (lewd guy) will brush such thing aside and continue with his hamsap activity. An unscrupulous bizmen will brush such thing aside and continue with his unscrupulous biz cheating activity. So when you have hamsap lou continue to be hamsap, unscrupulous bizmen continue to be unscrupulous, and corrupt politician continue to be corrupt, and ultimately find no peace and everyone suffers, who is actually qualified (sin-free) to do the blame game?
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 3 2013, 11:49 PM)
if your taukeh business is bad, small time SOHO traders like us in LYN are worst hit.
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not necessarily

some of my friends are very rich, and their businesses are big

big business are like big ships, not agile, very hard to be maneuvered

on the other hand, small business are small, and they are very agile, and can change course within a bat of the eyelid

it is like a nyamok and an elephant

Babablacksheep
post Jul 3 2013, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 3 2013, 10:43 PM)
anyone who been through the 1997 crash can attest to the fact that high end restaurants and shopping malls were among the first to suffer during an economic downturn

without excess money ppl won't go eat in expensive restaurants

when the money become tight, ppl will tighten their belts and will think of ways to save money

we do not know how bad this economic downturn will be, but many business people are starting to prepare, for the worst
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This is not economic downturn yet.
We are currently in economic turbulence, where volatility is here and there.

Business wise, risk is always there.
Bulls make money, Bears make money, only pigs get slaughtered.
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post Jul 3 2013, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(bryant76 @ Jul 3 2013, 11:50 PM)
those that have been thru 1997 crisis
they will just be conservative, and save cost and wait for the crisis to arrive
we have been talking abt this from2008 till now
every year we also said be conservative and let hope that we guess right

on the other hand, there is oppoturnity lost as they didnt invest for future
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there will be opportunity cost no matter what you do

and ppl who had been through the 1997 crash are not necessarily "conservatives"

i had been through that, but i fought on, and started to diversify my business because of that crash

now i have businesses not only in malaysia, but also in africa

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post Jul 3 2013, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 3 2013, 10:17 PM)
citation please

what i want is fact, real fact, not conspiracy theory
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Hadn't you heard that DSAI was lobbying Zionist Jews prior to the elections even in the papers?

Same goes to BN. The dacing logo is a Jewish Masonry symbol. Just googlee for Tunku Abdul Rahman if he's a Free Mason.

The Jews have around 60 mason lodges in Israel. They are the masters of the elite society.

In Malaysia we don't have synagogues but we have mason lodges in major cities. This is a FACT.
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If being selfish is truly valid, then it would be very easy for me.
I would kill you and then use selfishness as justification.
And if I have power, I will enforce such justification.
But of course if you're the victim, you will say I am wrong and evil.
That's obvious, because selfishness is never valid.
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QUOTE(Dorky @ Jul 3 2013, 11:53 PM)
That is why there is a very beautiful Christian parable about a person being taken on a tour to hell and heaven by an angel and he was shown people in hell suffer because they are all lacking but only think of helping themselves but in heaven everyone enjoy despite equally lacking but because they think of helping each others. Simple parable and simple lesson. But nobody give a hoot to understand and reflect on it. A hamsap lou (lewd guy) will brush such thing aside and continue with his hamsap activity. An unscrupulous bizmen will brush such thing aside and continue with his unscrupulous biz cheating activity. So when you have hamsap lou continue to be hamsap, unscrupulous bizmen continue to be unscrupulous, and corrupt politician continue to be corrupt, and ultimately find no peace and everyone suffers, who is actually qualified (sin-free) to do the blame game?
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most of the parables stay just that, parables

they can not, and will never exist in the reality

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post Jul 3 2013, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Jul 3 2013, 11:57 PM)
Hadn't you heard that DSAI was lobbying Zionist Jews prior to the elections even in the papers?
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as i said, citation needed

those stories about anwar lobbying for the zionist jews that were printed in the local media are not facts --- and those local media that printed such "fables" are themselves junk

i need facts, true, real facts, not conspiracy theories

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:01 PM

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there are a couple of batshit insane posters itt
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Babablacksheep @ Jul 3 2013, 11:55 PM)
Bulls make money, Bears make money, only pigs get slaughtered.
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true, very very true

sheeps and pigs always end up in the abattoir

unfortunately, 99% of the people are either sheeps, or pigs, or both
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 3 2013, 10:57 PM)
most of the parables stay just that, parables

they can not, and will never exist in the reality
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In reality, everyone is foolish and deluded.
In reality, everyone would see himself as above average.
In reality, everyone would see himself as "I am more right/better than you."
In reality, a valid solution will be provided but no one will take it and instead go for "intoxication" to intensify the problem.
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Dorky @ Jul 3 2013, 11:57 PM)
If being selfish is truly valid, then it would be very easy for me.
I would kill you and then use selfishness as justification.
And if I have power, I will enforce such justification.
But of course if you're the victim, you will say I am wrong and evil.
That's obvious, because selfishness is never valid.
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selfishness is not valid, but validity has nothing to do with the reality

one can not be totally un-selfish, or one would end up dead

case in point :

on a boat there are 3 people

you

your mom

and a stranger

suddenly the boat starts sinking

and you can only save one person (other than yourself)

let us be truthful now ...

will you save your mom or that stranger ?

SUSDorky
post Jul 3 2013, 11:05 PM

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In reality, I will kill you or rob you blind and say I am right and I will continue doing so until I either get killed or robbed by you in return or die by natural death.
In reality, you will kill me and say you yourself is right and you will continue doing so until you either get killed or robbed by me or die by natural death.
In reality, I will say I am always right and you will also do the same.
In reality, we are both idiots.
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(iceypain @ Jul 4 2013, 12:01 AM)
there are a couple of batshit insane posters itt
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true, i am one of them

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 3 2013, 10:59 PM)
as i said, citation needed

those stories about anwar lobbying for the zionist jews that were printed in the local media are not facts --- and those local media that printed such "fables" are themselves junk

i need facts, true, real facts, not conspiracy theories
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I don't think so that there's absolutely no truth to it. Where do you think he will get his support form? Freedom fighters? laugh.gif

People are so blinded by the world elites and so many wars which they have planned.

The Malays have a wise saying, "A single hand can't clap noises"

AIPAC is playing puppet games with both our political parties.
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 3 2013, 11:04 PM)
selfishness is not valid, but validity has nothing to do with the reality

one can not be totally un-selfish, or one would end up dead

case in point :

on a boat there are 3 people

you

your mom

and a stranger

suddenly the boat starts sinking

and you can only save one person (other than yourself)

let us be truthful now ...

will you save your mom or that stranger ?
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By your own, you should already have the answer.
Being selfish, you will have an answer.
Being selfless, you will have another answer.
Being wise, you will have yet another answer.
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(Dorky @ Jul 4 2013, 12:07 AM)
By your own, you should already have the answer.
Being selfish, you will have an answer.
Being selfless, you will have another answer.
Being wise, you will have yet another answer.
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mind sharing with us yours ?

SUSDorky
post Jul 3 2013, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 3 2013, 11:08 PM)
mind sharing with us yours ?
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Who cares?

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Jul 4 2013, 12:07 AM)
I don't think so that there's absolutely no truth to it. Where do you think he will get his support form? Freedom fighters? laugh.gif
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dsai got a lot of friends, including jews

but his friends are not exclusively jews

he also got non-jew friends, like me

yes, i support dsai

on the other hand, mamaktail got a lot of jewish friends too, including george soros

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QUOTE(Dorky @ Jul 4 2013, 12:09 AM)
Who cares?
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i do


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