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post Jul 3 2013, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Dorky @ Jul 3 2013, 11:57 PM)
If being selfish is truly valid, then it would be very easy for me.
I would kill you and then use selfishness as justification.
And if I have power, I will enforce such justification.
But of course if you're the victim, you will say I am wrong and evil.
That's obvious, because selfishness is never valid.
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selfishness is not valid, but validity has nothing to do with the reality

one can not be totally un-selfish, or one would end up dead

case in point :

on a boat there are 3 people

you

your mom

and a stranger

suddenly the boat starts sinking

and you can only save one person (other than yourself)

let us be truthful now ...

will you save your mom or that stranger ?

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(iceypain @ Jul 4 2013, 12:01 AM)
there are a couple of batshit insane posters itt
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true, i am one of them

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(Dorky @ Jul 4 2013, 12:07 AM)
By your own, you should already have the answer.
Being selfish, you will have an answer.
Being selfless, you will have another answer.
Being wise, you will have yet another answer.
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mind sharing with us yours ?

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Jul 4 2013, 12:07 AM)
I don't think so that there's absolutely no truth to it. Where do you think he will get his support form? Freedom fighters? laugh.gif
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dsai got a lot of friends, including jews

but his friends are not exclusively jews

he also got non-jew friends, like me

yes, i support dsai

on the other hand, mamaktail got a lot of jewish friends too, including george soros

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Dorky @ Jul 4 2013, 12:09 AM)
Who cares?
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i do

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Dorky @ Jul 4 2013, 12:12 AM)
Then tell me how can you and your mom got onto a boat with a total stranger in the first place?

Or maybe structure the question differently.
Your mom is a murderer and a good samaritan are drowning, who will you save? Your murderer mom or the good samaritan stranger?
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i am interested in your answer
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Jul 4 2013, 12:14 AM)
Malaysia over the years have started to show that we have been following very closely with US moves even started kow towing to them with piracy and trade agreements.

The US Fed Chairman is Ben Shalom Bernanke.

"SHALOM" doesn't sound Hebrew to you, right?
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u need to know this one thing ...

u go to facebook, right ?

who owns fb ?

a jew

u use computer, right ?

the computer chip is intel, right ?

who owns intel ? jews

out of all the hollywood movie studio, none of them are own by non-jews

major global banks - even those that are bought up (majority shares anyway) by the arabs, still run by jews

u can't escape the jews, even if you try
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(UJil @ Jul 4 2013, 12:25 AM)
i will sacrifice myself to save both of them
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and u will end up saving none of them, and u drown as well

no matter how u do your calculation, it ain't worth it

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Dorky @ Jul 4 2013, 12:28 AM)
You're more interested to prove yourself right and at the same time prove me wrong
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why do you say that?

i just want to know how you think

i am curious

really

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(anggaPra @ Jul 4 2013, 12:28 AM)
like the sales always don't reach target is it
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like the market vanishes

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Dorky @ Jul 4 2013, 12:34 AM)
You want realistic answer...

If I am very poor and if I continue like this I will die and I have a gun and have the chance to kill you and your family and take away all your belongings so that I may be well off, do you think I should do it?

I am very curious to know your answer to my question too.
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ok, i'll bite

if i am evil

if i am an evil taukeh exploiting poor people

if i am so evil that i rather let my workers die (i never call those working in my companies my workers, i call them my colleagues, because they work WITH me, but i disgress) than to give them salaries that they can feed themselves and their families

if i am that kind of person, yes, you are not wrong to kill me

before i continue, let me tell u a little bit about myself

i am not born a rich guy

i came from a very poor family, very dirt poor

i came from an environment filled with crime and drugs and all kinds of vices

i was a gangster during my teenage years

but one day, i got tired of all the surrounding and decided to change myself - i skip a very long story in the middle, - i started my business, kept it, nurture it, grow it, expand it

and even today, i still work 20 hours a day, every single day
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Jul 4 2013, 12:34 AM)
Kawan benar tu.

Yahudi hari ini bukan bangsa yang sebenar. Mereka tu lebih merupai mat salleh daripada Yahudi tulen yang sama ngan saudara Arab and Palestin.
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do u know who are the closest cousins of the jews ?

not the arabs

the iranians !!

yes, the iranians are the closest cousins to the jews
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Jul 4 2013, 12:36 AM)
Ash Tray, those are very evil corporations which are slowly taking over people's privacy without their consent.

You go and watch Hollywood movies and music albums today they are filled with evil elements and hidden Jewsih symbols.

They control your media, governments and the banks today and created this world mess. Don't you get it?
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u tok about privacy ?

u think this "taking over people's privacy" thing only happen today ?

if u think so, pls think again

there was no privacy to begin with

all the so-called "privacy" is an illusion

the system as it is, does not allow anyone to keep his/her real privacy --- but the system is wise --- it will not take away all your "perceived privacy", they always give you some "rooms" to maneuver

it's in these "rooms" that you think you got your privacy

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 4 2013, 12:47 AM)
Malaysia becoming less competitive. 

I was shopping the other day and decided to read the labels on various products. 

Magnum ice cream - made in Indonesia
Cornetto ice cream - made in Thailand
various shampoos - made in Thailand

I suppose it is natural, some industries like these low end manufacturing move out.  We still have the higher end.  But for how long?
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u still working on your programming ?

still not finish ah ?

and oh, btw, what kind of "high end product" we got left ?

u see, milo now still make in PJ, but not for long

nestle gonna move their operation to indon very soon

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Jul 4 2013, 12:49 AM)
Isn't that what the Bible warns of Christians, a synogogue of evil in the making (Rev 2:9) where it'll come a day when no one can run and hide and a coming messiah to save all of humanity?

Dude, if they control everything that is evil and of the world, people who do not agree or join their nations will become slaves to them.

Stop glorifying the evil and those companies you named should not be anything to be proud of.
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i am not afraid of the jews

why should i be afraid of them

do u know the meaning of "if u can't fight them, join them"?

yep, i learn from the jews

i have a lot of jewish friends, i learn a great deal of wisdom from them

they got so much wisdom in them that you won't believe it

i never meet with people with that much wisdom other than the jews

and i like to learn from those who are wiser than me because i know i am not wise

on the other hand, those who hate jews never get to learn from the jews, and those ppl will forever stay stupid, because they never get any chance to learn the true wisdom, never get the chance to get enlightenment, never get to know what they have missed
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Jul 4 2013, 12:54 AM)
Nope. The Arabs including the Sephardic Jews are real semites.
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go learn some history

stop listening to those who have fed you all the lies

the jewish tribe originated from the southern part of the assyrian empire, somewhere in the northern part of the iran

they migrated down to the arabian peninsular

on the other hand, the arabs were from mixture stocks of egyptians (blacks) and the proto-turks/lebanese
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post Jul 4 2013, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 4 2013, 12:56 AM)
Another project.  laugh.gif 

Other one finish already. 

Still got lah.  Electronics.  Plastic industries, not to say very high end.  biggrin.gif 

Downstream petroleum products. 

Services sector.
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electronics --- we do assembly, we are not a part of the "creation" chain

plastic --- fact that we are still calling it "plastic" denotes how far behind we really are

the world, back in the 80's, already evolved from the generic plastics to specialized polymers

petroleum ? downstream petroleum products can be a lot of things, from tar, to highly refined polymers --- and malaysia, unfortunately, are more onto the tar side

in other words, we are cooked, and we still don't know it
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post Jul 4 2013, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Jul 4 2013, 01:00 AM)
Stupid? true wisdom?

You call investment true wisdom? Brainwashing media is wisdom? Just look at the satanic symbols used in our modern music clips..

Enlightenment is science and technology to you?
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wisdom is wisdom

adam and eve was chased out of the paradise because they chose wisdom

if u choose to be with your god then you will be forever be unwise

it's your choice
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post Jul 4 2013, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Jul 4 2013, 01:05 AM)
I don't think the people who are pulling string behind the world governments including the White House and the US Fed are good guys.

Iran was where the sinful Babylonian civilization started where they worshipped deities such as baal and asherah. They committed great sin such as sodomy and unnatural sex until God brought his wrath on them. 

The Jew pharisees were the very ones who prosecuted Jesus on the cross because they believed in man made laws more than anything else.
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i never use any qualifier like 'good guys'

good or bad, it's all in your view point

without the bad guys, u think u can find a good guy ?

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post Jul 4 2013, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(maru&box @ Jul 4 2013, 01:06 AM)
The economy now is okay-ish since it's being propped up by oil money and government deficit spending.

In the long run, I don't really see much light at the end of the tunnel. The current idea by BN is to grow the service sector enough to become a "high income" nation. A good chunk of growth in the last few years is caused by government spending, domestic demand (taking on more debt) and property development.

In other words.

1. The government is borrowing money to grow the economy.
2. People are borrowing money to spend on cars,houses and whatever which grows the economy.
3. We are creating a property bubble to make ourselves feel richer by flipping houses and condos.

None of these sound like a very good idea in the long run.
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the so-called 'service sector' is but a sandiwara

america and europe are in deep shit because precisely they have evolved their societies into "service-sector-centric"

who were the ones climbing up the ladder ?

countries like korea, taiwan, and china

countries which did not fall into the "service sector fallacy"

it's manufacturing and innovation that keeps a society going forward

not service sector

after all, there are only so many insurance salesman you can have, or you will end up everybody selling everybody elses insurance policies

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