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post Jul 3 2013, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 3 2013, 09:07 PM)
I do not play stock, but according to some of my friends whose companies are listed on KLSE they are telling me that a crunch is in the making
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one more cycle of crash? Oh yeah..... i rike it. brows.gif

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post Jul 3 2013, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Jul 3 2013, 09:10 PM)
one more cycle of crash? Oh yeah..... i rike it.  brows.gif

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bro time to enter market now? lol
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post Jul 3 2013, 09:15 PM

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ur friends dun have cronies customers la. my ex colleague working in IT line, damn meletup the sales. Coz the GLC got fresh funds already.

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post Jul 3 2013, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 3 2013, 09:07 PM)
I do not play stock, but according to some of my friends whose companies are listed on KLSE they are telling me that a crunch is in the making
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I refer to john123x lah. He regular in stock market forum . I only jump in read a little bit only on the stock forum. Dont dare to post. Haha.
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post Jul 3 2013, 09:16 PM

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i am running online and retail business...

one of my branch dropped 60% since feb...

one of my friend retail biz dropped 70%..

now i planning to sell my punggung already..
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post Jul 3 2013, 09:18 PM

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Stock market trader fear not whether the economy is going up or down, or going super up or super down.
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post Jul 3 2013, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 3 2013, 09:07 PM)
I do not play stock, but according to some of my friends whose companies are listed on KLSE they are telling me that a crunch is in the making
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Credit crunch?
Stock sell-down?

If credit crunch, then normal.
If stock sell-down, then your friend must be super rich and super high status (to have the privilege to receive such news, provided it is real news and not fake).
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post Jul 3 2013, 09:23 PM

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stock market control by buaya besar...mau cari makan pon susah.
buaya besar pandai spread rumor tau.
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post Jul 3 2013, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(JerryTeh @ Jul 3 2013, 09:16 PM)
i am running online and retail business...

one of my branch dropped 60% since feb...

one of my friend retail biz dropped 70%..

now i planning to sell my punggung already..
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You sell consumer electronics mah. Competition very cutthroat. Things different if you work for GLCs.
We never seems to run out of order the whole of last year and until now, only this holy month sees a slowdown.

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post Jul 3 2013, 09:27 PM

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Ts listen to BFM lah every morning. Then u know economy is good or not.
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post Jul 3 2013, 09:28 PM

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True Story, As you can see Malaysia Ringgit is getting weaker and weaker..... USD-RM now is RM3.2+ shakehead.gif
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post Jul 3 2013, 09:37 PM

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Business usually slow during the mid year 1.
End year will rebound.
After CNY slow again.
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post Jul 3 2013, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(kopiPeng @ Jul 3 2013, 09:28 PM)
True Story, As you can see Malaysia Ringgit is getting weaker and weaker..... USD-RM now is RM3.2+  shakehead.gif
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weaker ringgit is better for business, u otak rosak ker?

If I were PM, I set it @ RM4.

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post Jul 3 2013, 09:42 PM

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post Jul 3 2013, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Jul 3 2013, 09:38 PM)
weaker ringgit is better for business, u otak rosak ker?

If I were PM, I set it @ RM4.
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Our export increase then. Our BoP hopefully will dapat surplus.

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post Jul 3 2013, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Jul 3 2013, 09:38 PM)
weaker ringgit is better for business, u otak rosak ker?

If I were PM, I set it @ RM4.
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Yala.. now ringgit already weaker, but many business sales still goes down.. U know what happen la
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post Jul 3 2013, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(kopiPeng @ Jul 3 2013, 09:28 PM)
True Story, As you can see Malaysia Ringgit is getting weaker and weaker..... USD-RM now is RM3.2+  shakehead.gif
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drop back to 3.15 and now 3.18 +
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Yala.. now ringgit already weaker, but many business sales still goes down.. U know what happen la
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baru weak 2 minggu, economy takes months to see one.

Faster set RM4 lah. Sure a lot of business unker enjoice one cos can export order a lot.

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post Jul 3 2013, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(kopiPeng @ Jul 3 2013, 10:45 PM)
Yala.. now ringgit already weaker, but many business sales still goes down.. U know what happen la
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if worth of local currency goes down, things we sell become cheaper on international market

but, and this is a very important but, we are not the only seller, and there are always new sellers entering the market, and the competition is very fierce

we have a lot of problems --- and they come in multitude of fronts ---

1. price wise we can not undercut competitors from bangla or vietnam or cambodia or africa

2. technology wise we lose to china, taiwan, korea, japan, europe, america

3. our businesses don't get any sapot from the government - businesses in other countries, even businesses in singapore get a lot of help from their government

4. efficiency wise we lose to many others

5. not only our government don't sapot us, we have to face a lot of ridiculous red tape from our own government

6. our business people are split - and many of our business people are not business savvy at all --- all they do is to sux the "t1ts" of the GLCs, which in turns got their $$ from the government, which in turn, got the money from us

7. many of our business people are not brave enough - when i went to africa, i had to do it all by myself, and in africa, i met with a lot of business people from thailand, believe it or not
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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 3 2013, 08:48 PM)
Have been meeting friends these past 2 weeks, and have been getting the same indication --- Economy sudah merosok

Friends from different fields, from different companies, some whose target domestic market, others targeting export / international market, and even those who are HQ at Johor, KL, Singapore, and when we compare notes, we found out that what had been troubling us for the past few weeks, what we had been suspecting, is true

And when we compare notes, for the past few weeks alone, business has gone down from 10% to 40%, depending on company, target market, industry, location

Things had started to go down before the election, but the effect was minimal, because at that time many of us still had existing orders as buffer

And now, the election is over, things gone from bad to worse - some of my friends (almost all of them taukeh / managing directors) couldn't land any new order - and some of the factories are starting to cut back on overtime, some even are planning to cut shifts, from 3 to 2, or from 2 to 1

Dunno how long this downturn will last, and dunno how bad this time it gonna be, but this ain't a joke

We started to network for the past few weeks because we had that "feeling" that something was not right, it stayed a "feeling" until, as I said, we started to compare notes, and the picture becomes clear --- the downturn is starting to hit us, all of us

U salaryman won't feel the pinch yet, but in a month or two (or maybe in a quarter or two) you might
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