Investment Commercial Property Investment, Need advice
Investment Commercial Property Investment, Need advice
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Jun 28 2013, 11:02 PM, updated 13y ago
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Think of invest in shoplot... Any things need to be considered?
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Jun 28 2013, 11:39 PM
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Jun 29 2013, 08:31 AM
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Jun 29 2013, 09:52 AM
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always try your best to get main road facing. It is easier to rent out and potentially command 50% or more rental than those non mainroad facing.
try get corner - it makes a lot difference. |
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Jun 29 2013, 10:13 AM
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If you have a big budget or good base in your investment portfolio try invest inside good shopping malls. Personally, I would prefer those by AEON group they really know how to make their shopping malls "viral". EG. Midvalley, Queens Bay. I believe you'll be able to find tenants fast if you invest in it and the price will shoot up like mad. Doing a flipping strategy is also great.
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QUOTE(stephanielum @ Jun 29 2013, 10:13 AM) If you have a big budget or good base in your investment portfolio try invest inside good shopping malls. Personally, I would prefer those by AEON group they really know how to make their shopping malls "viral". EG. Midvalley, Queens Bay. I believe you'll be able to find tenants fast if you invest in it and the price will shoot up like mad. Doing a flipping strategy is also great. |
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Jun 29 2013, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(linkor @ Jun 29 2013, 10:17 AM) |
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Jun 29 2013, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(stephanielum @ Jun 29 2013, 10:53 AM) Well mostly are sold out that's but I look for their new project. Used to get one from Sitiawan AEON because it's too far to manage myself. I "flip" it and gain almost 25%. But usually to do this needs a big budget, I could get my hands on Mid valley but I know the lesson well so I got 1 in Queensbay. Turn out to be great in terms of keeping it and renting. (Traffic is high) Mid Valley Aeon?? Minds to share more detail where exactly the shop u referring? And what is the psf? |
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Jun 29 2013, 11:45 AM
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May be u should consider this:
Pre-launch i-CITY, Shah Alam Freehold retail space Guarantee rental return 6% /year 10% rebate RM 10k booking 5% sign S&P Free SPA DIBS MSC status (free tax for 10 year) Fr 900k Call 0123688613 or PM me for more info. A NEW PROJECT IN I-CITY, freehold 1) Direct access from federal highway(new flyover), 3 minutes drive to NKVE 2) 72 acres integrated development with regional shopping mall, office towers, cyber centre office suites, hotel, apartment, data centres & innovation centre converting i-city into an international business hub (day)& lifestyle haven nights. 3) Malaysia tourism hot spot that attracting 90,000 visitors/weeks. 4) MSC status (free 10 year tax) 5) With entertainment license to capture the huge money spending market 6) Neighbourhood with UITM & UNISEL (85,000 students) 7) Total gross development value of RM5 billion with 80% development land 8) 1.7 million sf of regional shopping mall to be completed by 2016. 9) i-City is transforming Shah Alam into an international city. 10) The total population of Shah Alam (about 657,315) & Klang about 1,231,139) by 2013 with average year growth of 8.5% (Shah Alam) 5.5% (Klang) 11) Expected 40,000 employment opportunities to be created in i-City. 12) An integrated development with support of all kind of commercial, leisure & residential activities. 13) Proposed LRT station to the new i-City mall by 2020. To make it short and simple, it will be another exciting development just like Midvalley City with lots of exciting retails, shops, entertainment, hotels, business centre etc. Add-on with its, water theme park, city of digital lights, Snowalk, international convention centre and its latest wax museum plus many more to come, it will be like another Sunway City with its own exclusivity within the neighbourhood of Shah Alam and Klang! Call 0123688613 or PM me for more info. |
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Jun 29 2013, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(stephanielum @ Jun 29 2013, 10:13 AM) If you have a big budget or good base in your investment portfolio try invest inside good shopping malls. Personally, I would prefer those by AEON group they really know how to make their shopping malls "viral". EG. Midvalley, Queens Bay. I believe you'll be able to find tenants fast if you invest in it and the price will shoot up like mad. Doing a flipping strategy is also great. Bro , shop lot inside most of the well manage shopping mall are not for sale , almost all the shopping mall / center that shop lot own by individual are fail except sungai wang but i think sungai wang already facing some problem . |
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QUOTE(saimok @ Jun 29 2013, 11:45 AM) May be u should consider this: Sound great . Can sale liquor ? or operating a night club there ? Tourist entertainment center mah .Pre-launch i-CITY, Shah Alam Freehold retail space Guarantee rental return 6% /year 10% rebate RM 10k booking 5% sign S&P Free SPA DIBS MSC status (free tax for 10 year) Fr 900k Call 0123688613 or PM me for more info. A NEW PROJECT IN I-CITY, freehold 1) Direct access from federal highway(new flyover), 3 minutes drive to NKVE 2) 72 acres integrated development with regional shopping mall, office towers, cyber centre office suites, hotel, apartment, data centres & innovation centre converting i-city into an international business hub (day)& lifestyle haven nights. 3) Malaysia tourism hot spot that attracting 90,000 visitors/weeks. 4) MSC status (free 10 year tax) 5) With entertainment license to capture the huge money spending market 6) Neighbourhood with UITM & UNISEL (85,000 students) 7) Total gross development value of RM5 billion with 80% development land 8) 1.7 million sf of regional shopping mall to be completed by 2016. 9) i-City is transforming Shah Alam into an international city. 10) The total population of Shah Alam (about 657,315) & Klang about 1,231,139) by 2013 with average year growth of 8.5% (Shah Alam) 5.5% (Klang) 11) Expected 40,000 employment opportunities to be created in i-City. 12) An integrated development with support of all kind of commercial, leisure & residential activities. 13) Proposed LRT station to the new i-City mall by 2020. To make it short and simple, it will be another exciting development just like Midvalley City with lots of exciting retails, shops, entertainment, hotels, business centre etc. Add-on with its, water theme park, city of digital lights, Snowalk, international convention centre and its latest wax museum plus many more to come, it will be like another Sunway City with its own exclusivity within the neighbourhood of Shah Alam and Klang! Call 0123688613 or PM me for more info. This post has been edited by skcJVN: Jun 29 2013, 12:27 PM |
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Jun 29 2013, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(linkor @ Jun 29 2013, 09:52 AM) always try your best to get main road facing. It is easier to rent out and potentially command 50% or more rental than those non mainroad facing. Sure, but then the price also different a lot from those not facing main road. try get corner - it makes a lot difference. |
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Jun 29 2013, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(skcJVN @ Jun 29 2013, 12:12 PM) Bro , shop lot inside most of the well manage shopping mall are not for sale , almost all the shopping mall / center that shop lot own by individual are fail except sungai wang but i think sungai wang already facing some problem . Agree, mostly are in rental basis. |
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Jun 29 2013, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(saimok @ Jun 29 2013, 11:45 AM) May be u should consider this: Sound not bad..mind to share more?Pre-launch i-CITY, Shah Alam Freehold retail space Guarantee rental return 6% /year 10% rebate RM 10k booking 5% sign S&P Free SPA DIBS MSC status (free tax for 10 year) Fr 900k Call 0123688613 or PM me for more info. A NEW PROJECT IN I-CITY, freehold 1) Direct access from federal highway(new flyover), 3 minutes drive to NKVE 2) 72 acres integrated development with regional shopping mall, office towers, cyber centre office suites, hotel, apartment, data centres & innovation centre converting i-city into an international business hub (day)& lifestyle haven nights. 3) Malaysia tourism hot spot that attracting 90,000 visitors/weeks. 4) MSC status (free 10 year tax) 5) With entertainment license to capture the huge money spending market 6) Neighbourhood with UITM & UNISEL (85,000 students) 7) Total gross development value of RM5 billion with 80% development land 8) 1.7 million sf of regional shopping mall to be completed by 2016. 9) i-City is transforming Shah Alam into an international city. 10) The total population of Shah Alam (about 657,315) & Klang about 1,231,139) by 2013 with average year growth of 8.5% (Shah Alam) 5.5% (Klang) 11) Expected 40,000 employment opportunities to be created in i-City. 12) An integrated development with support of all kind of commercial, leisure & residential activities. 13) Proposed LRT station to the new i-City mall by 2020. To make it short and simple, it will be another exciting development just like Midvalley City with lots of exciting retails, shops, entertainment, hotels, business centre etc. Add-on with its, water theme park, city of digital lights, Snowalk, international convention centre and its latest wax museum plus many more to come, it will be like another Sunway City with its own exclusivity within the neighbourhood of Shah Alam and Klang! Call 0123688613 or PM me for more info. |
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Jun 29 2013, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(stephanielum @ Jun 29 2013, 10:53 AM) Well mostly are sold out that's but I look for their new project. Used to get one from Sitiawan AEON because it's too far to manage myself. I "flip" it and gain almost 25%. But usually to do this needs a big budget, I could get my hands on Mid valley but I know the lesson well so I got 1 in Queensbay. Turn out to be great in terms of keeping it and renting. (Traffic is high) Mind to share in detail? Eg. How to get the unit? I means who to contact, direct from Aeon or agent? yuen89 liked this post
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QUOTE(xiaoniu8 @ Jun 29 2013, 08:31 AM) What i meant is tenant track record and financial strength. maybe you should check your potential tenant financial statement at SSM to ensure they will able to pay your rental.This post has been edited by faReZheLmi: Jun 29 2013, 06:45 PM |
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QUOTE(stephanielum @ Jun 29 2013, 10:13 AM) If you have a big budget or good base in your investment portfolio try invest inside good shopping malls. Personally, I would prefer those by AEON group they really know how to make their shopping malls "viral". EG. Midvalley, Queens Bay. I believe you'll be able to find tenants fast if you invest in it and the price will shoot up like mad. Doing a flipping strategy is also great. That's news to me ! Which unit of Midvalley ? You talk about megamall in bangsar right ? |
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Jun 29 2013, 06:48 PM
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Try put it tis way. If megamall fr yesterday allowed to b owned by individual, they ll not become the megamall today. So I would b very interested to catch tis opportunity to own, not 1 but few if possible.
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jun 29 2013, 07:28 PM) Try put it tis way. If megamall fr yesterday allowed to b owned by individual, they ll not become the megamall today. So I would b very interested to catch tis opportunity to own, not 1 but few if possible. Boss, sure u interested if its into individual ownership? Like u say, it will not become the megamall today if into individual ownership oh.......Management is sooooooooo important operating a mall..... A poor management can't lead a mall into success (location is not key, look at Avenue K today after sooooo many yrs), what's more if its individual ownership how to manage? And they are at the risk of sabotage, eg. other mall operator may jus bought a few unit and leave it empty. This post has been edited by AppreciativeMan: Jun 30 2013, 11:50 AM |
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Jun 30 2013, 11:40 AM) Boss, sure u interested if its into individual ownership? Like u say, it will not become the megamall today if into individual ownership oh....... Ha ha , u sabotage me n I sabotage u n this to explain why soo many shopping mall/ center which own by individual around KV was empty n fail ? Win Win situation .. HaManagement is sooooooooo important operating a mall..... A poor management can't lead a mall into success, what's more if its individual ownership how to manage? And they are at the risk of sabotage, eg. other mall operator may jus bought a few unit and leave it empty. This post has been edited by skcJVN: Jun 30 2013, 11:55 AM |
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QUOTE(skcJVN @ Jun 30 2013, 11:50 AM) Ha ha , u sabotage me n I sabotage u n this to explain why soo many shopping mall/ center which own by individual around KV was empty n fail ? Win Win situation .. Ha Who win-win?? More mall failed due to weak management..... A strong leasing team is so critical.... This post has been edited by AppreciativeMan: Jun 30 2013, 12:12 PM |
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Jun 30 2013, 11:40 AM) Boss, sure u interested if its into individual ownership? Like u say, it will not become the megamall today if into individual ownership oh....... Timing is important ma. Eg refer to time square. Its individual strata. Management is sooooooooo important operating a mall..... A poor management can't lead a mall into success (location is not key, look at Avenue K today after sooooo many yrs), what's more if its individual ownership how to manage? And they are at the risk of sabotage, eg. other mall operator may jus bought a few unit and leave it empty. If mv sell and u and me r the 1st 2 to get it, wat v need is an exit plan eg sell it when everyone rushing to own 1. Maybe dispose within a yr and earn if god allows. But nvr keep tis type of props for too long. Even sg wang n times square r facing prob now. |
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jun 30 2013, 01:45 PM) Timing is important ma. Eg refer to time square. Its individual strata. Times Sq was struggling ever since they completed.... It got better not long ago partly taking advantage over the too high rental of Sungei Wang.... Thus again, was it a failure due to individual strata title again? If mv sell and u and me r the 1st 2 to get it, wat v need is an exit plan eg sell it when everyone rushing to own 1. Maybe dispose within a yr and earn if god allows. But nvr keep tis type of props for too long. Even sg wang n times square r facing prob now. Initially when in construction, I thought Times Sq suppose to be a high end mall like in HK..... Frankly, there is mix opinion towards MV success initially they built a mall trapped in between few highway/major road..... I hav to admit, I was one who thinks tat it can't make it..... MV, their success comes from the creative management and leasing team...... This post has been edited by AppreciativeMan: Jun 30 2013, 03:32 PM |
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hi shop lot property owners,
Can share some experience of you renting out your shop lot (Rental collection, maintenance etc) ? |
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Anyone has invested in leasehold commercial shoplot 3 storey?
can kindly please share your experience? Because I am currently hesitating whether to proceed with purchase of a leasehold commercial shoplot 3 storey (individual title). I have concern on the leasehold remaining of 85 years only. But it is at a good strategic location. Good thing is it is individual title, not strata title. I can easily instruct lawyer to do application for lease renewal for own lot, not need to wait for all strata title owners. Just need to pay premium with own fund only. Hope any sifu or taikor with experience in commercial property can share your valuable opinion for learning purposes. Regards. This post has been edited by MAC5: Jun 28 2024, 12:00 PM |
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QUOTE(MAC5 @ Jun 28 2024, 11:56 AM) Anyone has invested in leasehold commercial shoplot 3 storey? 85 years, long way to go.can kindly please share your experience? Because I am currently hesitating whether to proceed with purchase of a leasehold commercial shoplot 3 storey (individual title). I have concern on the leasehold remaining of 85 years only. But it is at a good strategic location. Good thing is it is individual title, not strata title. I can easily instruct lawyer to do application for lease renewal for own lot, not need to wait for all strata title owners. Just need to pay premium with own fund only. Hope any sifu or taikor with experience in commercial property can share your valuable opinion for learning purposes. Regards. For 3 storey, normally top floor is hard to get tenant. |
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3rd floor rent cheap cheap
my case, ground flor RM2.8K, 1st flr, RM1K, 3rd floor 600 lo |
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Anyone looking for 2 & 3 Storey shoplot (individual title - No maintenance fee) beside HYPERMARKET ?
Can let me know ya... ROI 6% |
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has anyone done renewal of lease previously?
how is the process and how they calculate premium? |
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Commercial Land in Selangor
3/4 x 1/100 x value of the land x term of new lease minus balance of existing lease. As an example for a commercial land with 35,000 sf in land area with a remaining lease of 30 years valued at RM150 per sf. 3/4 x 1/100 x 5.25 million x 69 years = RM2,716,875 (premium payable) For industrial land in Selangor, formula is same as commercial land. Someone told the above to me. |
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QUOTE(MAC5 @ Jun 28 2024, 11:56 AM) Anyone has invested in leasehold commercial shoplot 3 storey? Buy only if the rental yield is above 8% pa. Otherwise, take your money and invest elsewhere. There are plenty of investment alternatives. Unless you want to buy a commercial shoplot for your own business, then that one is an important consideration.can kindly please share your experience? Because I am currently hesitating whether to proceed with purchase of a leasehold commercial shoplot 3 storey (individual title). I have concern on the leasehold remaining of 85 years only. But it is at a good strategic location. Good thing is it is individual title, not strata title. I can easily instruct lawyer to do application for lease renewal for own lot, not need to wait for all strata title owners. Just need to pay premium with own fund only. Hope any sifu or taikor with experience in commercial property can share your valuable opinion for learning purposes. Regards. baoz liked this post
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QUOTE(swiss228 @ Jul 15 2024, 05:37 PM) Buy only if the rental yield is above 8% pa. Otherwise, take your money and invest elsewhere. There are plenty of investment alternatives. Unless you want to buy a commercial shoplot for your own business, then that one is an important consideration. Thank you for your opinion. |
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i have come with tenated retail lot and shoplot, interested can find me ya all unit up to ROI 7%
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Anyone has renewed your lease for leasehold shoplot?
how they calculate your premium payable? Selangor state. |
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QUOTE(MAC5 @ Jul 21 2024, 04:02 PM) Anyone has renewed your lease for leasehold shoplot? some think it is based on value of the land itself as if it is a vacant land. some think it is based on market value of the building itself.how they calculate your premium payable? Selangor state. In other words, lease renewal premium is based on value of vacant land or based on value of vacant land plus building on it? This post has been edited by MAC5: Jul 22 2024, 09:40 AM |
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