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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V133, Bear coming?

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SKY 1809
post Jun 30 2013, 04:14 PM

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Simple Yield

Free Cash Flow Yield =

Free Cash Flow/Market Capitalization*

* ( Or using Enterprise Value for advance players )
SKY 1809
post Jun 30 2013, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 30 2013, 09:29 PM)
If you consider revenue then yes there's growth.
And note that it already achieve 18 million earnings in 2008 and 17 million in 2009.
I usually look at growth in a uniform way.
IE maybe little but constant growth instead of erratic earnings.

To me cash flow and net earnings is far more important, also SGA, depreciation, interest etc.

There's no meaning if you make lots of sales by spending far more money, for example.

And 2012 - 2013 wise yes there might be growth, but as I said I didn't include it cz there's no full report.  notworthy.gif
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Left to right from 2007 - 2012. No 2013 as no full report.

[Dividend Paid in RM'000] 14,480 14,680 9,000 12,000 15,400 16,000
[Free Cash Flow in RM'000] 23,736 19,824 36,409 30,905 24,909 35,986
[Net Earnings in RM'000] 24,553 20,974 20,918 24,676 17,854 21,741

But by using FCF, u may notice a bit high figure of 36m , that maybe an attraction so to speak, couple with better 2013 unaudited results.

U could be the early birds in buying if it is your cup of tea ,rather than waiting for others to discover first , and by the time u want to buy, it could be at a premium.

Other Models might indicate it is a rather flat trend , sensor problem hmm.gif

BTW Year 2013 ended 30/4/2013 is out, wonder if u have missed it too. hmm.gif with Net profit 32M .

Just my view only.

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post Jun 30 2013, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 30 2013, 10:01 PM)
Yes no doubt, buy before others did.
But I'm not really interested in this Apollo though.

Just using it to refresh my valuation process.  smile.gif
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Apollo is not my cup of tea too.

But just using FCF, this company is doing better as time goes.

Maybe it is an Insider Info indicator ( when others do not notice ) laugh.gif

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post Jun 30 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Jun 30 2013, 10:15 PM)
20% is just an example, not die die must have lah.
At least constantly increase can d.  tongue.gif

KPJ healthcare.
Net Earnings
2005 - 2011
28,741   41,121   77,791   89,308   114,736   126,221   154,259   icon_rolleyes.gif
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Profit growth is one thing , but mass share dilution is another , big favorite in Bursa. list , delist and then relist ...........

DIGI share could start with par of rm 1 , ending with par of 1sen........

Can u get the same EPS with a 20% growth in profit hmm.gif

Happy first but with sad ending yawn.gif

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post Jul 2 2013, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jul 2 2013, 01:10 PM)
hmm.gif I only know the quarterly report will be release on month end...............boss hint that it will be the best profit ever

who got kenanga's research report?
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U mean this one hmm.gif


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post Jul 2 2013, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(kalandra @ Jul 2 2013, 02:20 PM)
Bro, are you in Redtone though?
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For Redtone, I am the on and off investor.

Not the no sell keyboard type. yawn.gif

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post Jul 6 2013, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jul 6 2013, 09:37 AM)
Treasury bonds yield jumped to 2.7% yesterday closing. USD jumped 1% against RM. Better economy and jobs reported.. so QE tapering is gonna come...

Monday come EM bonds, REITs, Gold and yield equity will have another slaughter... sweat.gif
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Let it cross the important 3% .....

Maybe can get 10% FD somewhere in Asia....... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jul 6 2013, 09:12 PM)
sometime i feel quite bullshit on the chart....

I was a TA believer.. but now i feel quite bullshit...

maybe in different stages of market already....

Gadang below 80cents is a best buy...

no one dare to buy .... I sapu quite a lot actually.... 78, 77, 77.5  icon_rolleyes.gif

when price gone up to 90cents only ask for buying....  doh.gif
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Congratulation to yr sapuing thumbup.gif

Well done.
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post Jul 8 2013, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jul 8 2013, 11:31 AM)
hmm.gif No earth quake on MBSB, only drop few percent.............
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U know what, MBSB is also operating so called shadow banking like the Ones in China ..

Shadow banking poses problem to Malaysia

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...3#axzz2YQFLaexT

In Malaysia, it isn't clear just how large the shadow banking system is as they are not captured in any formal banking statistics. But some estimates put it at easily several hundred billions the amount of money loaned out. Among the more prominent shadow banks are lenders such as the Government-owned Bank Rakyat Malaysia Bhd (Bank Rakyat) and public-listed Malaysia Building Society Bhd (MBSB).




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post Jul 8 2013, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 8 2013, 11:53 AM)
A panic buy in MTDA hmm.gif
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Congratulations. thumbup.gif

Nice waiting, bearing fruits now....
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jul 8 2013, 11:54 AM)
hmm.gif Malaysia's practice really not that transparent, especially to those government's company.

EPF hold 60% above of MBSB's share..........another not transparent company is MAS
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Few hundred Billions....in shadow banking

But no statistics kept and no controls......

Sad to see EPF entity is providing toxic loans in Billions....

A "shadow banking" crisis is looming if left unchecked and could potentially derail the Malaysian financial markets and economy.

Read more: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...3#ixzz2YQJTkmNp
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Maybe now under the BNM watchdog . hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 8 2013, 12:26 PM)
Thanks. Did you buy?
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ya a bit only thanks notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jul 8 2013, 12:42 PM)
for me, if it is long hour flight, MAS of course preferred provided both ticket doesn't much difference in term of price. nod.gif

Lowyat a lot of rich people, maybe some sit 1st class in every flight  brows.gif  or got private jet  rclxms.gif
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U mean those who buy and ride through all storms...

This I have to agree with u , they are rich. yawn.gif
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wow MYEG shoots up from 80over sen to rm 2 after post GE..

Damn bullish.........
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post Jul 18 2013, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Top Gun @ Jul 18 2013, 11:12 AM)
How I wish every year I can hit this type of jackpot one or twice. drool.gif
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I did promote MYEG in this forum just before GE.

But no more doing hard sell these days ............ yawn.gif

On and off, I also follow Bones tipping, quite good to follow too ...... notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jul 18 2013, 11:27 AM)
hmm.gif I guess US will only raise interest on 2015
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Treasury yields about 2.6% +- ......Kinda like our 4 to 6% with inflation hmm.gif

The pressure is from treasury yields ........can Fed stop that too yawn.gif

Interest rate hike trend is there, just do not how long it would take..........

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QUOTE(Top Gun @ Jul 18 2013, 11:33 AM)
Aiya! Why I no listened? doh.gif
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AS u say, just need to talk about 1 or 2 good stocks a year . laugh.gif

Then go hibernation ......
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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Jul 19 2013, 11:16 AM)
some news coverage
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Wow , big Casino coming.....

This year, no good for plant stocks hmm.gif

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jul 19 2013, 11:24 AM)
Indeed. Hmm accumulate when nobody wants?  hmm.gif
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Any cheap plant stocks around.......


People forget to eat due to bull markets worldwide hmm.gif
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jul 19 2013, 11:33 AM)
laugh.gif nobody dare to give tipsy nowday...............
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Haha, so goreng until market crashes laugh.gif brows.gif



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