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TSyhtan
post Jun 27 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 02:55 PM)
After sell business, meaning I also not holding anymore lo. Cannot generate passive income for me anymore ma. That is why the "victim" word.

Just a quick question, our dividend consider as our income or no need to declare?
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Section 108 dividend = Need to declare to claim/offset against your tax payable
Single-tier dividend = No need to declare

Please take note to keep all the supporting document of dividend income, just in case in future u need to buy property or car and receive a "Love Letter" from LHDN laugh.gif
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post Jun 27 2013, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 03:00 PM)
I've got the letter last 2 years, asking me to bring the receipt for few years. So, I just submit and get the stamping on the receipt as well as the BE form.
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Letter to query your financing source of your property?


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post Jun 27 2013, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 27 2013, 03:03 PM)
There is a lot lot of money.

For eg.
If a company gives 10 million in total dividend pa. there is 100 company doing so, it means 1 billion of dividend.
out of 1 billion, if we assume 25% is given to minority shareholders that subjected to low tax bracket or don't need to pay tax one (especially retired person whereby no income already so even added dividend so under taxable bracket), means 250 million is given to minority shareholders.
250 x 25% = potential 62.5 million refund!

I believe KLSE listed company give more than 1 billion of dividend annually. I no count on this, correct me if I am wrong.

Somemore, a lot of company have plenty of tax credit around, so it is a big waste for those tax credit not being utilised, particular for those shareholders that have low tax bracket or under taxable bracket one, and particularly for retired person.
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Government saved up RM1bil overall, if not mistaken

QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 03:03 PM)
Letter ask me bring all the receipts only. Not sure is it because of property or not, but it was directly after I bought my first property.
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Definitely relate to property, they already got your tax paid record in their system
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post Jun 27 2013, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(yenforyen @ Jun 27 2013, 03:04 PM)
Would we be able to claim back the portion due to us from LHDN if we are below the 25% tax bracket of the single-tier system?
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Single-tier definitely cannot claim back

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:12 PM)
Last month just received letter from IRB... ask me to pay next year's income tax in 12 month installment...  they call it scheduled tax, based what they estimate i need to pay in 2014.

Like this also can. Not yet receive income ask to pay tax first. ... vmad.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jun 27 2013, 03:15 PM)
I've been paying in advance since I grad. I think it is standard process and I found it is a good way to do so, to prevent people from feeling heartache when want to part with the money during income tax time.
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This is their intention after a lot of taxpayer unable to fork out huge sum.

Able to claim faster also benefit government laugh.gif

QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:16 PM)
Personal income tax... but not from working income, from dividend, rental etc etc...
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I thought personal income subject to PCB hmm.gif

Or maybe your personal income from foreign country hmm.gif

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 03:28 PM)
My income declared is not from employment, which every month same one. Mine fluctuate up and down depend on rental, dividend and other incomes...usually lump sum laugh.gif

I declaring as foreigner status, cause I am not tax resident of Malaysia. Everything flat 26%, no deductions...
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Double taxation, this one i'm not really sure rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jun 27 2013, 03:58 PM)
Axiata, SingTel , Telenor to know Myanmar telecoms bid on Thursday

Myanmar, which is offering operating licenses to global telecoms firms for the first time, will announce the outcome of the auction as planned on Thursday despite opposition in parliament.

Myanmar is one of the world's last telecoms frontiers, with only 9 percent of its 60 million people at most having mobile phones. But faced with big investments and uncertain returns, some bidders have dropped out of the auction.

Vodafone Group Plc and China Mobile Ltd have abandoned their joint bid, saying it did not meet their "internal investment criteria."

The remaining short-listed contenders, some of whom have local or foreign partners, are: Singapore Telecommunications, KDDI Corp, Telenor, Digicel, Axiata, Bharti Airtel, MTN, Vietnam's Viettel, Qtel (Ooredoo), Orange and Millicom International Cellular.
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Judge by Axiata share price, unlikely they going to win the bid laugh.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jun 27 2013, 04:05 PM)
Anything can happen. It's all depend on the how much "under-table payment" made  biggrin.gif
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Those joint venture with local company has higher chances, do business in this country, u pandai pandai lah laugh.gif

QUOTE(gark @ Jun 27 2013, 04:06 PM)
Rumor says.. George Soros' telecomm company might win...
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jun 27 2013, 04:12 PM)
Axiata if I am not wrong renamed from TM international operations right?
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http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/news/3...against-singtel

Myanmar’s contest for two telecommunications licenses attracted bidders from around the globe seeking a foothold in one of the last remaining untapped markets, where only one in 10 people has a mobile phone.

The winners are scheduled to be announced on Thursday, ending a six-month race that drew 91 expressions of interest to operate in the country of 64 million people. Norway’s Telenor ASA, Singapore Telecommunications Ltd (ST), billionaire George Soros and France Telecom SA (FTE) are among the 11 remaining bidding groups.

“It’s a tremendous growth opportunity, but it will require a fair bit of investment, and returns will be long dated too,” said Sachin Gupta, a Singapore-based analyst at Nomura Holdings Inc. “I don’t think it’s going to be an easy exercise for anyone, but having previous green-field experience and strong local partnership should help.”

The licenses are among the biggest prizes for foreign companies since Myanmar President Thein Sein moved to allow greater political and economic freedom after taking power in 2011. The United States and European Union have moved to ease sanctions, attracting companies such as Coca-Cola Co and Ford Motor Co to the former military-run state even as human rights groups warn of abuses against ethnic and religious minorities.

The government plans to proceed with naming the winners even after parliamentarians moved to delay the announcement, Set Aung, deputy minister of national planning and economic development who is overseeing the process, said on Thursday by phone.

“We have selected two winners,” he said. “We will go ahead and announce the winners today if we don’t get any intervention from a higher authority.”

No Bias

Set Aung said that while he’d prefer local companies, the process complied with international practices.

“The playing field should be level,” he said. “We, the technical team, aren’t biased in the selection of the winners.”

Myanmar plans to boost telecom coverage to as much as 80% of the country by 2016. It has a mobile-phone penetration rate of 9%, compared to 70% in Cambodia, 87% in Laos and more than 100% in Thailand, the Communication Ministry said in January.

The government named 12 groups of companies as finalists for two licenses that will allow carriers to build and operate a nationwide wireless network in the country for 15 years.

“I have never seen any investors who are not coming to a country before everything is perfect,” Set Aung said by phone yesterday. “All the companies understand there are risks. Some companies probably think there is too much risk, and other companies think it’s a calculated risk.”

Vodafone Withdraws

Bidders include Bharti Airtel Ltd, Telenor ASA (TEL), Singapore Telecommunications Ltd, Digicel Group Ltd, Axiata Group Bhd (AXIATA), France Telecom SA and Marubeni Corp, KDDI Corp and Sumitomo Corp, Millicom International Cellular SA (MIICF), MTN Group Ltd, Qatar Telecom QSC, and Vietnam’s Viettel Group. Four of the bidding groups include a local partner.

Vodafone Group Plc and China Mobile Ltd, the two biggest mobile-phone companies, withdrew their bid on May 31, saying the returns wouldn’t justify the investment required.

SingTel, which is bidding with KBZ Group and Myanmar Telephone Co, would build a mobile network covering 95% of the country’s population within 36 months, according to a June 11 statement. SingTel has 468 million mobile-phone customers in countries including India, Indonesia, Thailand and the Philippines, according to the company. SingTel also offered to lend assistance to Myanmar’s efforts to launch a national satellite.

KDDI and Sumitomo are bidding along with Myanmar Information and Communication Technology Development Corp and A1 Construction, while MTN’s group includes local company Amara Communications.

Digicel, Soros

The group led by Digicel, Soros and Myanmar property developer YSH Finance Ltd. pledged to invest US$9 billion. The companies would roll out a so-called fourth-generation mobile network across the country by Dec 1, and its wireless service will reach 96% of Myanmar’s population by 2016, the group said in a statement June 3.

Telenor on April 12 said it would leverage its experience in operating mobile networks in Thailand, Malaysia, India, Bangladesh and Pakistan “to provide rapid delivery of high-quality mobile network and services throughout Myanmar.” It didn’t disclose an investment value.

France Telecom strategy chief Elie Girard earlier this month described Myanmar as “the biggest telecom desert” with less telephone use than in North Korea or Cuba. The company, bidding with Japan’s Marubeni, is prepared to spend $1 billion to build a network by 2019 and will cover more than 75% of the country’s geography in five years, Girard said. Chief Executive Officer Stephane Richard said June 25 that the company had a “good chance” of winning a license.

Human Rights

Bharti Airtel Ltd. (BHARTI), India’s largest mobile carrier, may spend about $1 billion to set up a network, the Times of India reported on June 8, citing Chairman Sunil Bharti Mittal.

Myanmar had 5.44 million mobile-phone subscribers as of December, equivalent to a 9% penetration rate, the government said in January. About 1.3% of the population has access to fixed-phone lines and 0.03% has broadband Internet, according to the Asian Development Bank.

In May, New York-based Human Rights Watch warned that companies bidding for the licenses risk being linked to human rights abuses if they invest before laws are in place to protect against illegal surveillance and censorship.
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 27 2013, 08:56 PM)
Axiata out. Malaysia tak Boleh.  tongue.gif
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Expected already, even CEO also spit it out in press conference laugh.gif

I prefer them to focus on their current market, especially turnaround the business in Cambodia and the growth for Indonesia. Celcom did a great job for the past few years
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 28 2013, 09:32 AM)
can somebody please advise me if i should sell kossan?
what's up with its ever increasing stock price?
is another split due soon?
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Kossan undervalue when analyst compare with other glove company

And rumour Kossan giving out bonus issue
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 28 2013, 10:19 AM)
thank you  notworthy.gif
but i thought i read target price is approx 4.78.
it has shot past that.
if bonus issue turns out false. will it sink?
should i sell? icon_question.gif
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U should ask yourself a question, do u have confidence for the Company? wink.gif

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post Jun 28 2013, 11:13 AM

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Ah boon, 5077 can buy or not?

Seem like the worse has over hmm.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 28 2013, 11:32 AM)
Nan inspiration for u.. early 30's , working as akauntan, live with parents, no have girl friend, eat very kiamsiap, eat lunch tapau himself from home....

But.. >10k SGD passive income per month... laugh.gif by investing little bit of his income every month..

http://singaporeanstocksinvestor.blogspot....ome-from-s.html
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I think his hardwork paid off, time to relax himself a bit, spend some money to have a healthy social life too
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 28 2013, 11:52 AM)
Money without a healthy lifestyle........

I met one person age 66, now starting  to realize that it is unhealthy .......

What money cannot do ........
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Be kiam siap to yourself is healthy, kiam siap to others might not be healthy.

U will not know when u need their help, i believe most of us went through some downfall in life
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 28 2013, 12:33 PM)
Now financially free already... no need work can get salary.

Thats the power of passive income.

He can practicality retire at age 30+...

The blogger never reveal his total holdings BUT he did mention his average yield is about 8%.. so 123,000/0.08 = 1.5 mil SGD.

All from savings from his salary... laugh.gif
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I guess many forumers here on par with his level brows.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 29 2013, 10:13 AM)
FCF is only useful for determining if the dividend is sustainable.

DCF is used to value the company .  laugh.gif Remember to add discount lo...

Go open back your ACCA books...
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Digi is the best example thumbup.gif

But its share price didn't go back to its glory time at RM5.5
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Jul 1 2013, 04:43 PM)
M'isa Telco outlook by RHB
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