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[F]atalit[Y]
post Sep 3 2014, 12:24 AM

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Aih....ok....cuz when my car hits 100kmph it starts to vibrate badly...not the steering...steering still straight, but whole car just rattles.... =(
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post Sep 3 2014, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Sep 3 2014, 12:24 AM)
Aih....ok....cuz when my car hits 100kmph it starts to vibrate badly...not the steering...steering still straight, but whole car just rattles.... =(
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Car vibrating may cause from few problems :
1. Tires problem
2. Wobbly wheels
3. Brake trouble
4. Axle problems
5. Engine problems
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post Sep 5 2014, 11:36 AM

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Hello everyone,

I'm a new Kelisa owner here. Purchased 2004 Kelisa 1.0 EZ (Auto), done 133000Km for 15K in April 2014.

Now the problem with this vehicle is that the engine is a bit noisy & it is giving fuel average of only 7-8 Km/L in city driving sad.gif

According to the service sticker, oil change was done at 130000Km. What could be the problem here?
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post Sep 5 2014, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(asifniz @ Sep 5 2014, 11:36 AM)
Hello everyone,

I'm a new Kelisa owner here. Purchased 2004 Kelisa 1.0 EZ (Auto), done 133000Km for 15K in April 2014.

Now the problem with this vehicle is that the engine is a bit noisy & it is giving fuel average of only 7-8 Km/L in city driving sad.gif

According to the service sticker, oil change was done at 130000Km. What could be the problem here?
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Noise is quite common for a 3 line engine....maybe the oil used is not that good? How is the noise like though? YOur FC is bloody high. Something is definitely wrong cuz mine is clocking at 14km/litre on average....
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post Sep 5 2014, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Sep 5 2014, 12:11 PM)
Noise is quite common for a 3 line engine....maybe the oil used is not that good? How is the noise like though? YOur FC is bloody high. Something is definitely wrong cuz mine is clocking at 14km/litre on average....
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Thanks for the reply, it is just a lot louder than other Kelisa's that I have heard. Engine noise a lot louder. I live in Shah Alam where there are steep climbs so I was guessing the FC will be around 10-12 but 7-8 is way too low!!

Not sure what engine oil was used the last time, but I'm planning to get it changed at 135000 instead of 140000 that is mentioned on the service sticker.

What engine oil do you use?
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post Sep 5 2014, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(asifniz @ Sep 5 2014, 12:29 PM)
Thanks for the reply, it is just a lot louder than other Kelisa's that I have heard. Engine noise a lot louder. I live in Shah Alam where there are steep climbs so I was guessing the FC will be around 10-12 but 7-8 is way too low!!

Not sure what engine oil was used the last time, but I'm planning to get it changed at 135000 instead of 140000 that is mentioned on the service sticker.

What engine oil do you use?
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Used a few but caters to which you like

Castrol Mag 10/40. Engine is well taken care of. Mileage is from 370-420 per full tank. Response is quite alright especially after first 500km.

ENEOS Ecotouring 5/30 semi syn. Engine is smooth, pick up is good. 400-450 per full tank. Response will become slightly lower after 2000km.

Maybe you need to send your Kelisa for checking. If the engine sound is too loud it could be your RPM.
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post Sep 5 2014, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Sep 5 2014, 03:31 PM)
Used a few but caters to which you like

Castrol Mag 10/40. Engine is well taken care of. Mileage is from 370-420 per full tank. Response is quite alright especially after first 500km.

ENEOS Ecotouring 5/30 semi syn. Engine is smooth, pick up is good. 400-450 per full tank. Response will become slightly lower after 2000km.

Maybe you need to send your Kelisa for checking. If the engine sound is too loud it could be your RPM.
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Nah, RPM can't be the issue. On idle it is at 850-900, not high. I guess i'll get it serviced at 135000Km instead of the scheduled 140000Km, and see what is the issue.

Thanks
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post Sep 7 2014, 01:14 AM

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my kelisa got a loud noise on rear(drum brake i think) when stop handbrake release to start moving, anyone know what is wrong?

sound like gun shot release when I press the acceleration
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post Sep 7 2014, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(AhBoy~~ @ Sep 7 2014, 01:14 AM)
my kelisa got a loud noise on rear(drum brake i think) when stop handbrake release to start moving, anyone know what is wrong?

sound like gun shot release when I press the acceleration
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time to service the rear drum.. could be sticky



QUOTE(asifniz @ Sep 5 2014, 12:29 PM)
Thanks for the reply, it is just a lot louder than other Kelisa's that I have heard. Engine noise a lot louder. I live in Shah Alam where there are steep climbs so I was guessing the FC will be around 10-12 but 7-8 is way too low!!

Not sure what engine oil was used the last time, but I'm planning to get it changed at 135000 instead of 140000 that is mentioned on the service sticker.

What engine oil do you use?
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spark plugs? way tooo low FC. get a 10/40 oil.. like what the other guy said, first 500km is heavy engine, then will be fine till 5000km... i put in previous 10/40 shell hx5 and catrol 10/40... quite ok so far. last till 7500km. petronas or perodua oil abit thin, after 3000km will thin out making engine louder.
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QUOTE(yorkhan @ Sep 7 2014, 09:24 PM)
time to service the rear drum.. could be sticky
spark plugs?  way tooo low FC.  get a 10/40 oil.. like what the other guy said, first 500km is heavy engine, then will be fine till 5000km... i put in previous 10/40 shell hx5 and catrol 10/40... quite ok so far. last till 7500km. petronas or perodua oil abit thin, after 3000km will thin out making engine louder.
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thanks mate notworthy.gif any idea how much will cost servicing the rear drum?
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post Sep 8 2014, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(yorkhan @ Sep 7 2014, 09:24 PM)
time to service the rear drum.. could be sticky
spark plugs?  way tooo low FC.  get a 10/40 oil.. like what the other guy said, first 500km is heavy engine, then will be fine till 5000km... i put in previous 10/40 shell hx5 and catrol 10/40... quite ok so far. last till 7500km. petronas or perodua oil abit thin, after 3000km will thin out making engine louder.
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Won't know the issue until I get it serviced at 135000Km.

I read in another forum that resetting the ECU helps in getting the FC right and improving performance, done by taking the battery plug out for 10-15mins or removing the EFI fuse out. Anyone tried that?
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post Sep 8 2014, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(asifniz @ Sep 8 2014, 02:51 PM)
Won't know the issue until I get it serviced at 135000Km.

I read in another forum that resetting the ECU helps in getting the FC right and improving performance, done by taking the battery plug out for 10-15mins or removing the EFI fuse out. Anyone tried that?
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Dont bother waiting till that mileage. You'll damage it even worse. I FUBAR-ed my gearbox for so long thinking I'll change it the next mileage, and it cost me a bomb to change to a new one. That affected other things in my engine due to nt repairing it. Now my suspension and axle also giving problem....whole car starts to vibrate at 80km speed, and if it is at 30-40km speed, my car moves left and right....like im in a rocking chair

Yea, my friend did it. Its quite simple.

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post Sep 8 2014, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Sep 8 2014, 03:00 PM)
Dont bother waiting till that mileage. You'll damage it even worse. I FUBAR-ed my gearbox for so long thinking I'll change it the next mileage, and it cost me a bomb to change to a new one. That affected other things in my engine due to nt repairing it. Now my suspension and axle also giving problem....whole car starts to vibrate at 80km speed, and if it is at 30-40km speed, my car moves left and right....like im in a rocking chair

Yea, my friend did it. Its quite simple.
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Yeah I guess I'll get it done sooner.

How was your friend's experience with resetting the ECU? Any improvement in performance?
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post Sep 9 2014, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(asifniz @ Sep 8 2014, 03:51 PM)
Yeah I guess I'll get it done sooner.

How was your friend's experience with resetting the ECU? Any improvement in performance?
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Resetting ECU is just going back to factory setting. It can be considered a refresh if you have trouble with your engine. So if yours is giving a lot of FC, it could improve it =)
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post Sep 10 2014, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Sep 9 2014, 05:52 PM)
Resetting ECU is just going back to factory setting. It can be considered a refresh if you have trouble with your engine. So if yours is giving a lot of FC, it could improve it =)
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did mine also, not on purpose though. was cleaning the battery point. car like good oomph la... then reverted back to normal. but it might help clean out some static in your ECU figuratively speaking. tongue.gif
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post Sep 11 2014, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Sep 9 2014, 05:52 PM)
Resetting ECU is just going back to factory setting. It can be considered a refresh if you have trouble with your engine. So if yours is giving a lot of FC, it could improve it =)
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QUOTE(yorkhan @ Sep 10 2014, 08:36 PM)
did mine also, not on purpose though. was cleaning the battery point. car like good oomph la... then reverted back to normal. but it might help clean out some static in your ECU  figuratively speaking.  tongue.gif
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So I guess I should give a try to resetting the ECU. How much average are you getting yorkhan?
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post Sep 11 2014, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(asifniz @ Sep 5 2014, 12:29 PM)
Thanks for the reply, it is just a lot louder than other Kelisa's that I have heard. Engine noise a lot louder. I live in Shah Alam where there are steep climbs so I was guessing the FC will be around 10-12 but 7-8 is way too low!!

Not sure what engine oil was used the last time, but I'm planning to get it changed at 135000 instead of 140000 that is mentioned on the service sticker.

What engine oil do you use?
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o2 sensor was it changed before? if not then this should be the culprit............
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post Sep 11 2014, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(asifniz @ Sep 11 2014, 05:13 PM)
So I guess I should give a try to resetting the ECU. How much average are you getting yorkhan?
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ummm.... was driving highway 80% all the time. getting around 5.8l/100km ..speed was 100kph. manual 1.0
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post Sep 12 2014, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Hamsapguy @ Sep 11 2014, 05:36 PM)
o2 sensor was it changed before? if not then this should be the culprit............
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Not sure about that, the dealer didn't say anything about it. How to check it?

QUOTE(yorkhan @ Sep 11 2014, 08:09 PM)
ummm.... was driving highway 80% all the time. getting around 5.8l/100km  ..speed was 100kph. manual 1.0
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That is a great average that you are getting!! I just did a full tank run to check the average & now I'm getting 9.6km/l or 10.42l/100km.
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post Sep 12 2014, 05:15 PM

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Hmmm....so with full tank you are getting about 300km?

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