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English Clubs Chelsea FC V21, BPL - Norwich City v Chelsea 8.25pm #812

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post Sep 22 2013, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Sep 22 2013, 12:21 PM)
I got the hunch that after we hitting top gear..there is no turning back..bulldozer mode ~ hahahaha
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post Sep 22 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Sep 22 2013, 07:03 AM)
jose already clarified about this..he dont mind luiz play the ball or march forward..but he need to defend when we losing the ball..because he is a defender..

jose want mata to play RW..Robben style..but he still cant do that..and always drift to the middle..

if they follow jose game plan..they will be alright..now either both of them adapting or ignoring jose's gameplan...time will tell about this..

and about luiz..he only suitable to play adventurous if mikel also play at the middle..because mikel always drop as defender if luiz march forward..
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mata lacking in speed. he'll never be a robben. i see mata as a link between the mazacar combo. the one who create oppurtunity to both oscar and hazard. and also for striker. u can see the number of assist he made for the last two seasons.

+ we miss mata during set piece. our set piece like super poor.

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post Sep 22 2013, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Sep 22 2013, 02:25 AM)
is torres or fulham try to push for more attacking when 1 goal down which leave more space for us to penetrate?  hmm.gif
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looks like torres is not interested anymore to play striker,
i usually think of him like a playmaker when mata is not there.
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post Sep 22 2013, 02:16 PM

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If we are opt for playing slow build up and more attacking in the middle Mata will be a good choice, JM is trying to open up opponent by using Wide player, Mata style is suited Drogba era, because we dont have any Striker like Drogba, FT, Ba & Eto'o is no way like Drogba, so wide play will be better choice to break opponent defence, in the mean time Striker just to pull the opponent CB is more advance area therefore the no. 10 shall score most of the goal.

Just like Fulham game, their defensive tactic is forcing us to play more in the middle, that is the reason JM start Schurrle because he provide more wide attacking option, 1st goal came from left hand side wide area, then Fulham starting to break their defence because they are 1 goal down and try to equalize

Just my 2 cent, Cheers KTBFFH!
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post Sep 22 2013, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Sep 22 2013, 02:46 PM)
mata lacking in speed. he'll never be a robben. i see mata as a link between the mazacar combo. the one who create oppurtunity to both oscar and hazard. and also for striker. u can see the number of assist he made for the last two seasons.

+ we miss mata during set piece. our set piece like super poor.
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yap..thats the problem..just like torres lack of speed to be effective..thats why I prefer Oscar drop to CM and Mata as AM..huhu..Oscar already a CM for Brazil.. hmm.gif

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post Sep 22 2013, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Sep 22 2013, 02:18 PM)
yap..thats the problem..just like torres lack of speed to be effective..thats why I prefer Oscar drop to CM and Mata as AM..huhu..Oscar already a CM for Brazil.. hmm.gif

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agree with you in slotting oscar to lampard position.

my ideal chelsea lineup:

cech
azpi iva cahill cole
rami oscar
kdb mata hazard
torres


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post Sep 22 2013, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Sep 22 2013, 03:25 PM)
agree with you in slotting oscar to lampard position.

my ideal chelsea lineup:

cech
azpi iva cahill cole
rami oscar
kdb mata hazard

torres
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passing..passing..passing..passing.. laugh.gif
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post Sep 22 2013, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Sep 22 2013, 02:26 PM)
passing..passing..passing..passing..  laugh.gif
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passing passing with mata creativity. mata is the key for our passing game. i miss the 1-2 move from mata and hazard. those two really know each other move.
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post Sep 22 2013, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Sep 22 2013, 03:29 PM)
passing passing with mata creativity. mata is the key for our passing game. i miss the 1-2 move from mata and hazard. those two really know each other move.
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our trio is the key for this formation..put any striker I think also the same effect.. laugh.gif

MAZACAR already a terrifying prospect..plus KDB.. thumbup.gif

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post Sep 22 2013, 04:32 PM

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Blue is the colour, football is the game
We're all together and winning is our aim
So cheer us on through the sun and rain
'Cause Chelsea, Chelsea is our name.

Here at the Bridge, whether rain or fine
We can shine all the time
Home or away, come and see us play
You're welcome any day

Blue is the colour, football is the game
We're all together and winning is our aim
So cheer us on through the sun and rain
'Cause Chelsea, Chelsea is our name

Come to the Shed and we'll welcome you
Wear your blue and see us through
Sing loud and clear until the game is done
Sing Chelsea everyone

Blue is the colour, football is the game
We're all together and winning is our aim
So cheer us on through the sun and rain
'Cause Chelsea, Chelsea is our name.

Blue is the colour, football is the game
We're all together and winning is our aim
So cheer us on through the sun and rain
'Cause Chelsea, Chelsea is our name.

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QUOTE(Mondo Socialist @ Sep 22 2013, 04:16 PM)
defend...defend...defend...hoof...luck...goal. 1-0..90mins.
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Inb4 org slam aku.
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post Sep 22 2013, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Mondo Socialist @ Sep 22 2013, 06:40 PM)
this 2cents insult coming from a buffoon who supports manu, has a balotelli avatar and gives himself a female tag. amuse me dum dum.  biggrin.gif
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post Sep 22 2013, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Sep 22 2013, 07:03 AM)
jose already clarified about this..he dont mind luiz play the ball or march forward..but he need to defend when we losing the ball..because he is a defender..

jose want mata to play RW..Robben style..but he still cant do that..and always drift to the middle..

if they follow jose game plan..they will be alright..now either both of them adapting or ignoring jose's gameplan...time will tell about this..

and about luiz..he only suitable to play adventurous if mikel also play at the middle..because mikel always drop as defender if luiz march forward..
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agreed. my understanding based on JM statement, he want mata to play wide role on the right. meaning always dribble wide and low/high cross instead of cutting inside to middle. Jose may wanted something similar like robben speed, but mata does not have that speed.

Jose tactical, he want the wide player to drag the defender out from the box, hence more space for striker.

Why mata on the wide right? Jose mentioned it before, he believed left footed player are suitable to play on the right. For example see Schurle & KDB. mostly start on right side.
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post Sep 22 2013, 08:33 PM

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Jose plan for mata

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"The evolution of the team is that I want Oscar and Mata to play together," Mourinho told Sky Sports. "I want that but for that (to happen) one has to adapt and to work to a certain way of play because I am not ready to change Oscar's position.

"Oscar as a number 10 is a player that gives us creativity, but at the same time when we press up, Oscar is a runner, a player capable of pressing. We have our ideas and we stick with our ideas.

"Juan has to learn to play the way I want to play. He has to be more consistent, has to participate more when the team loses the ball. It's not his fault, it's just the consequence of the way he has played in the last years."


SOS

Clearly Jose has a plan for mata and oscar to play together, he just need mata to be more agressive, pressing opponent, track back when losing a ball. Could be 4-1-4-1 when it happen.


..... to think about it, I hardly recalled Mata do any tackle/hard challenge.
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post Sep 22 2013, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(eeki @ Sep 22 2013, 08:33 PM)
Jose plan for mata
SOS

Clearly Jose has a plan for mata and oscar to play together, he just need mata to be more agressive, pressing opponent, track back when losing a ball. Could be 4-1-4-1 when it happen.
..... to think about it, I hardly recalled Mata do any tackle/hard challenge.
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in term of attacking/ assist, mata is second to none. i don't think mata will be a good winger. a winger need speed, and that's what mata lacking. attacking player shud not be judge on number of tackle they made. same goes to defender, they can't be judge on the number of goals/ assist they made.
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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Sep 22 2013, 10:16 PM)
in term of attacking/ assist, mata is second to none. i don't think mata will be a good winger. a winger need speed, and that's what mata lacking. attacking player shud not be judge on number of tackle they made. same goes to defender, they can't be judge on the number of goals/ assist they made.
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thats why Jose said it's up to Mata to raise up his game up to Jose expectation/game plan/tactical.
Jose need someone that can provide full package in terms of attacking & defending. Hence, Oscar is Jose favourite #10 now.

we all totally have no doubt on Mata attacking ability.

this is similar case with Luiz, he want to attack/go up, he need to go down as fast possible.
currently all players are adapting to new Jose style.
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Lol I can't believe Arsenal fans started saying they are gonna win the league! HAHAHAH!
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QUOTE(Frankmiller92 @ Sep 22 2013, 10:59 PM)
Lol I can't believe Arsenal fans started saying they are gonna win the league! HAHAHAH!
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Source please. No proof then GTFO
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Stop lar talkin bout others club in here.. boring la woii..

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