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post Jun 26 2013, 08:31 AM

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rumour again ...
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post Jun 26 2013, 08:36 AM

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It's not rumors, there's an article on this yesterday posted on the star
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post Jun 26 2013, 02:24 PM

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http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...15&sec=business
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post Jun 26 2013, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Jun 26 2013, 02:24 PM)
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post Jun 26 2013, 05:35 PM

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aiseh, I didn't see this thread when I started a similar one just now, my apologies!
I agree that banning DIBS will see a healthier market. Will also rejuvenate the secondary market ie a more level playing field.
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post Jun 29 2013, 08:13 AM

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post Jun 29 2013, 08:17 AM

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Beside DIBS, Bank negara should impose more rules like tightening the ratio of monthly installment to income... as long as buyer is able to service the loan, lesser chance for bubble.
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post Jun 29 2013, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jun 29 2013, 09:17 AM)
Beside DIBS, Bank negara should impose more rules like tightening the ratio of monthly installment to income... as long as buyer is able to service the loan, lesser chance for bubble.
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i hope ltv for 2nd 70%.... 3rd and after 50%...

and given discount is illegal.


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post Jun 29 2013, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jun 29 2013, 08:22 AM)
i hope ltv for 2nd 70%.... 3rd and after 50%...

and given discount is illegal.
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shakehead.gif shakehead.gif give chance to people that want to own 2 house boss
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QUOTE(natman @ Jun 29 2013, 09:27 AM)
shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  give chance to people that want to own 2 house boss
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pr1ma 2nd house.. can get 100% loan ma... sweat.gif
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post Jun 29 2013, 08:50 AM

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1. No dibs 2. Mbsb under ccris what else? Huhu. Kalau suddenly say cannot refinance to buy houses = mati
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jun 29 2013, 08:50 AM)
1. No dibs  2. Mbsb under ccris    what else? Huhu. Kalau suddenly say cannot refinance to buy houses = mati
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Government wun tighten the rules till that bad one... It has to jaga developer's nasi mangkuk as well... U know I know la... tongue.gif
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post Jun 29 2013, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jun 29 2013, 08:34 AM)
pr1ma 2nd house.. can get 100% loan ma...  sweat.gif
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Tought pr1ma is for low income only, how come low income can buy 2nd house with 100% loan ?

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post Jun 30 2013, 08:03 AM

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Reported in the Star on 29 Jun 2013 below:
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By LEONG HUNG YEE hungyee@thestar.com.my

THE potential move to impose curbs on the Developer Interest-Bearing Scheme (DIBS) by Bank Negara may be negative for some developers in the short term and has little effect on banks.

StarBiz had reported that Bank Negara was studying the risks arising from the DIBS, with a view of potentially imposing curbs on it.

Basically, if you purchase property from a developer who offers DIBS financing packages, then the developer would bear the interest for the loan during the construction period.

In other words, you don't have to pay anything to the bank until construction is complete. You only start paying the bank instalments after the property is fully constructed.

DIBS has become a popular and easy financing package offered in joint-promotional activities between banks and developers in recent years.

CIMB Investment Bank Bhd research head Terence Wong said if the move by the central bank were true, then it would be "negative" for developers in the short term, although not entirely unexpected, as speculation on such a move had already surfaced in May.

"Although such a policy would have a negative impact on speculative demand, we believe the impact on earnings would be muted, while creating a healthier property market led more by fundamentals," he said, adding that he had heard whispers over the past few weeks on the possibility.

"We remain overweight' on the property sector, with Mah Sing Group Bhd as our top pick, and robust sales and earnings growth as sector catalysts. Any weakness in property stocks is an opportunity to accumulate, in our view," Wong added. Industry players are still awaiting a formal announcement from the central bank, if any.

Mah Sing's group managing director and chief executive Tan Sri Leong Hoy Kum pointed out that there has been no announcement on interest-bearing schemes thus far.

However, he hopes that any implementation would take into consideration the industry's feedback and the current market condition.

In addition, Leong said the lending environment was generally still conducive, with financing liquidity still attractive and interest rates still low.

While Mah Sing offers DIBS packages for some of its projects, it does not offer the scheme for its industrial, commercial and landed residential projects.

Hong Leong Investment Bank Research, meanwhile, believes that developers with a high concentration of high-end, high-rise developments such as Eastern & Oriental Bhd would be the most severely affected.

However, it reckoned that other major developers within its coverage would not be as badly affected, given their exposure to this policy shift would comprise less than 50% of their sales.

Kenanga Research analysts said there was market talk that Bank Negara might want to do without the easy financing packages as part of the property lending curb.

However, they say quick checks with developers under their coverage indicated that the developers were not extending this scheme to many projects at the moment, as banks were also discouraging developers from undertaking the scheme because of speculative activities.

"Notably, Hua Yang Bhd's and Crescendo Corp Bhd's projects do not use this scheme, so they would be least affected in terms of demand. So, in terms of fundamentals, it should not hurt demand too much, particularly for the bigger developers.

"It would affect stock sentiment in the short run, so do expect further sell-downs if the curb on DIBS materialises not even the high dividend-yielding ones would be spared," they opined.

In the medium term, Kenanga Research does not expect prolonged sell-downs, as the Government was already talking about implementing the build-then-sell model, which would restrict future supply and lend strength to demand and larger players such as SP Setia Bhd, Mah Sing, IJM Land Bhd and UEM Sunrise Bhd.

"Currently, our sector is under review. Our existing call is overweight' and we are likely to maintain this, but with a more selective or buy-on-weakness stance. We are likely to continue promoting affordable developers like Hua Yang and Crescendo due to their resilient demand-based profile. We also like Johor-based developers like UEM Sunrise, as we believe there would be more positive news flows towards the year-end, for example, the Malaysia-Singapore Rapid Transit System, the listing of Iskandar Waterfront Holdings Sdn Bhd and more strategic tie-ups," they added.

Concurrently, Maybank Investment Bank Research said assuming DIBS packages were banned, it estimates the worst-case scenario to be a marginal 0.7 percentage point to be shaved off its 2014 industry loans growth forecast of 10.5% to 9.8%.

"We believe domestic banks have been more tempered in their exposure to the mortgage segment, and channel checks point to limited exposure at this stage. We maintain our industry loan and earnings forecasts for the individual banks for now.

"We remain overweight' on the banking sector, with our buys' being AMMB Holdings Bhd, RHB Capital Bhd, BIMB Holdings Bhd and Hong Leong Financial Group Bhd," Maybank said.

It explained that general guidance was that such loans had made up 15%-20% of new mortgage loans over the past few years.

Thus, some dampening effect was to be expected.

"Nevertheless, we believe the impact is likely to be contained by the fact that the housing loan growth of the Big Six' banks has been measured and such loans account for less than 5% of total residential loans for the big banks."





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post Jun 30 2013, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(natman @ Jun 29 2013, 09:03 AM)
Tought pr1ma is for low income only,  how come low income can buy 2nd house with 100% loan ?
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Pr1ma NOT for low income.it for middle income from $3k to $6k.heard it going up to $10k salary range....

Low income is pprt or low cost flat
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post Jun 30 2013, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(oxm8 @ Jun 30 2013, 08:11 AM)
Pr1ma NOT for low income.it for middle income from $3k to $6k.heard it going up to $10k salary range....

Low income is pprt or low cost flat
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Oh i see thanks
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post Jun 30 2013, 08:57 AM

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PR1MA is almost medium-end already
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post Jun 30 2013, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(ecin @ Jun 30 2013, 08:57 AM)
PR1MA is almost medium-end already
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??? medium-end???

you mean PRICE or QUALITY? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(realcyma @ Jun 30 2013, 10:36 AM)
???  medium-end???

you mean PRICE or QUALITY?  tongue.gif
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price, 4++psf for apartment-like, quality no one can answer you for now
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post Jul 7 2013, 05:51 PM

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So gov did not cut DIBS.....

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