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sogoatticus
post Dec 21 2007, 03:36 PM

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wana ask cat pro here..for beginners how much i need to invest if wan take persian cat for a pet..?i mean the cage, food,toilet etc (exclude the price of the cat).

got any useful link for the caresheet?

saw this 1 long fur cat. actually normal long for persian.ask the shopper they said 800..the cat very manja..feel like wana buy it..but im not sure its is worth 800 bucks..wana ask for advice biggrin.gif
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post Dec 21 2007, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Dec 21 2007, 04:24 PM)
do u really prefer persians?
I don't.
3 reasons

1) their flat face is ugly (in my opinion)
2) they shed their fur like nobody business
3) gotta groom them everyday or your house will look like barber shop.

If i'm gonna adopt a long hair, I'll take Maine Coon anytime. Norwegian Forest Cat will be my 2nd choice.
forest cats like MC & NFC is very easy to maintain. Grooming once a week is enough.
Being a forest cat, mother nature naturally didn't require them to be groomed (can't find a grooming shop in the forest can they tongue.gif)

rm800 for a DLH?
i assume the persian is sold at petshop (rule of thumb. do not EVER buy cats or dogs from ANY petshop. get from a breeder or SPCA/PAWS)
& no certs.
I won't pay rm800 for a DLH. persian look or not. rm500 would be more reasonable.
I'll save up some more to adopt one from a proper breeder.

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im not sure wat breed is it..i only know persian..btw my qtn about how much to invest..?
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post Dec 22 2007, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Dec 21 2007, 08:16 PM)
since u are not sure, I guess they really don't have any certificate.
If they say they got cert, most probably trying to fool u (they only have vaccination cert)

Regarding your question.
Do u feel RM800 is a lot of money?
Do u feel the DLH is worth RM800? (People do sell nice DLH for around RM500)

Your money. U decide.
If u want my opinion. DON'T BUY. NOT WORTH IT. Plus i would feel the guilt for supporting BackYardBreeders aka petshops.
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i really appreciate the info..guess u misunderstood my qtn..im asking about estimation of the investment such as cage, food, toilet, food bowl, fur comb, etc..how much will it cost for beginner like me?

anyway here is the RM800 cat..i fell in love with him..he so manja wub.gif wub.gif ..wat breed is it?or is it normal cat?i kena tipu?

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post Dec 22 2007, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Dec 22 2007, 12:42 AM)
confirm kene tipu.
doesn't even look like persian.
Not even DLH i guess. At best probably medium long hair.
U can get strays on the road with this kind of coat pattern.
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Dec 22 2007, 12:48 AM)
as i can see that is a normal cat. i mean Domestic Long Hair. And again, if they don't provide you birth certificate then its Domestic cat.

oh by the way, is that long hair or what? it look semi-long for me. Persian don't look that way, you cat face look like normal face.

anyway forget about the price, since you "paid" Rm800 already, no point for arguing that right....

as for budget, very hard to tell...

if your cat spend more time in the cage = get bigger cage 3 tier good quality cost about RM260-RM330 (depends which shop). unless you get second hand then cheaper. (ONE TIME INVESTMENT)

if you cat eat expensive food (1st class food or premier food) such as Innova Evo/orijen, then monthly will cost more than other food. Other good food with almost the same price among each other is IAMS/Science Plan/Royal Canin. Most people recommend Royal Canin. But since you only have 1 cat, then Innova Evo/Orijen should be problem - they eat less if you get this kind of food because it contain high protein 40%. So stomach get easily full. For a start you can get Royal Canin - buy bigger pack like 10kg you save more. Normally can keep until 2/3 months for 1 cat. (MONTHLY INVESMENT DEPEND HOW MUCH YOUR CAT EAT)

litter - you have a choice of Crystal, Pine wood, Clay sand. If only have one cat, get Crystal or Pine. Clay sand is good too but easily stick on your cat fur. I use crystal for my long hair, and pine wood for my short hair. (MONTHLY INVESTMENT)

Litter box - get bigger one as long as it fit in the cage smile.gif more comfortable smile.gif no need to get expensive one lah. as long as big and suitable for the size of your cat. (ONE TIME INVESTMENT UNLESS YOU CAT GROW BIGGER)

food bowl, depends on you, (ONE TIME INVESTMENT) cheap!

Comb one time investment cheap!

nail clipper - i recon human nail clipper.. the one sell for cat is useless.. wasting money. all you need to do clip the sharp only, dont clip the whole thing.

shampoo - get 2 in 1 - shampoo + conditioner = good one cost about rm30 above. (CAN USE LONGER TIME - SO NO NEED TO INVESTMENT SO MUCH)

i guess thats all for a start...
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1st)i havent got conned yet coz that pics is taken from the petshop..so i havnt bought it yet..lolx tongue.gif
2nd)thanks for the info..really answers my qtns..i guess the expensive part is the cage and food maintainence.. wink.gif
3rd)so that cat is local breed?actually the fur longer than the pics..i dont know y its fur looked shorter ..later i come back and ask bout the DLH..hope the know what DLH means blush.gif
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post Dec 22 2007, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Dec 22 2007, 12:26 PM)
You could always ask uncle google and auntie wiki for reference ma.. xD
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yup but not everythg can get from there lor..then if all can get from there then no use to create forum discussion lor biggrin.gif
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post Dec 22 2007, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Dec 22 2007, 03:37 PM)
don't bother going there talking about DLH.
If most people don't know terms like DLH, DSH, don't ecpect the BYB to know it.
They are there to make the most profit out of people's ignorance icon_rolleyes.gif
They wouldn't care so much if u did not buy. Coz at one point, a rich fella will fall in the trap.
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thanks though..i guess i have to ban the shop..biggrin.gif..and u suggest any breeder/websites here?
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post Dec 22 2007, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Dec 22 2007, 05:43 PM)
thanks.these all malaysian site?
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post Dec 23 2007, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Dec 22 2007, 06:08 PM)
yup.
just be prepared to pay at least rm1k+
sometimes need to be in waiting list.
most of the time, breeder will need u to sign a contract. Requires u to neuter/spay when the time comes. cannot simply resell the kitten without their approval. no declawing. indoor only. etc.

if u are not prepared for this, i suggest u adopt cat from SPCA/PAWS (many cute poor kitten there) or u can adopt kitten from forumers (with some fee.sometimes free) LYN got some. kitten.com.my got many.

just remember not to get conned.
rm500 & below for a DLH considered reasonable.
more than that, it is too much.
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read those sites..most of them sold oo..din state price oso sad.gif ..any personal breeder in forum?seems like im going to aim maine coon rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 24 2007, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(princessintan @ Dec 24 2007, 03:46 AM)
tuah-tuah is so cute smile.gif looks so manja. auuu~~ how adorable

havent logs in lyn for a long time. cannot catch up with the post already


Added on December 24, 2007, 3:52 am

since u pay rm800, cannot do anything already right? never mind, Persian or not, it is so adorable. cute cute.

yea. u need the 3 tier cage. if im not mistaken, think i bought mine less than rm200. if u stay somewhere near puchong and u a serious buyer, i can check the price again at the pet shop i always go.
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erks.. blush.gif i've already stated in other post..
i havent bought it yet..
the pictures is from the petshop in melaka..
but i really fell in love with him wub.gif
he so manja when i stick my fingers at the cage..hehe
after been advice by caerulln i decided not to buy it..
maybe local breed or smthg..but i din ask the shop yet icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on December 24, 2007, 8:54 am
QUOTE(Oly @ Dec 24 2007, 06:36 AM)
i think the breed is Norwegian Forest Cat...white chest...
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did some research bout this breed..
the Norwegian face looks a lil bit 'forest' to me..lol
and they got this lion fur around their neck
does they look the same?

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post Dec 25 2007, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Dec 25 2007, 05:30 AM)
sogoatticus, if u want, a breeder have a pet quality American Curl.
rm450 adoption fee.
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http://www.freewebs.com/mountophir/foradoption.htm
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this site got a lot of cute kittens biggrin.gif..does it worth 450 for American Curl?
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post Dec 25 2007, 12:18 PM

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1 stupid qtn..will they run away from ur house?i mean when they play2 outside suddenly run away..then u will see 500 bucks flying T_T..any solution?
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post Dec 25 2007, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Dec 25 2007, 02:18 PM)
Advertisement

Your money couldn't move. Now there is a promotion. Your money could run with 4 legs! Come and get it now! @.@, I will go to that place tommorow.. I wanna rogol all the cat there.. Meow!~
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i dont understand ur joke hmm.gif
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post Dec 26 2007, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Dec 26 2007, 11:22 AM)
Haha, okay-okay... Here's the pixs smile.gif

Oren loves a good armpit (ketiak) rub doh.gif

(Other cats loves neck rub, but Oren...)

So while giving him a good armpit rub, he fell asleep! shakehead.gif

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After a while taking some pixs and having a good laugh, he rolled over and woke up...

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Look at how big he is now! doh.gif

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laugh.gif haha..his sleeping style so funny..he seems pregnant to me..lolx biggrin.gif

where can i get the tips for toilet trained for kitty?
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post Dec 27 2007, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Dec 26 2007, 02:17 PM)
Oren is a male, so confirm not pregnant tongue.gif

His belly is fat and has jiggly part summore, that's why look like that...

Eat, sleep, golek2, eat, sleep, golek2 and that is what you get wink.gif

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Added on December 26, 2007, 2:20 pmOhh, to me, toilet train is easy...

Just keep the cat confined with the litter tray where you want it to do their biz for about a week or so... Either in a cage or room or toilet... After that they will know where to do their biz... But you must keep the litter tray at that original place all the time, if you move it, you need to repeat the same procedure again cuz some cats won't know where to find it, while some others can.

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where u usually put the litter tray?inside the cage or in ur toilet or both?

and how often u change the litter sand?once they shit u throw away or wait till the shit full?
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post Dec 27 2007, 10:40 AM

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ur veranda is downstairs or upstairs?so now u din use cages?ur kitty live inside ur house 24/7?wont run?
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post Dec 27 2007, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Dec 27 2007, 11:40 AM)
I stay in apartment, so ofcourse the veranda is upstairs.

Nope, no more cage. Caged him for only 1 week plus when I first got him.

Yes, my cat stays totally indoor 24/7.

Nope, he has never tried to run away.

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wah..so where does he sleeps?u provide him a cat bed?
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post Dec 27 2007, 03:03 PM

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wah ur cat seems very tame..should i get a female or male better?or both shouldnt be a problem?plan to get the pet quality at melaka biggrin.gif..dunno other better places sad.gif
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ Dec 27 2007, 03:33 PM)
Surprisingly he is...

Both male and female make great pets. Each will have their own unique character. It's up to the owner also on how they shape their pets behaviour.

Take into consideration to neuter/spay your cat too. Some common things if you don't have them neutered/spayed :

- For females, once mature they can run away when on heat and also easily get pregnant and fill you house with tonnes and tonnes of kittens.

- For males, when mature they will start pissing wherever they like.

Neutering/Spaying will help curb these problems plus encourages a better health for your cat smile.gif

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thx for d info..is spaying = sterilizing ?usually costs how much?
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post Dec 27 2007, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(rumizu @ Dec 27 2007, 05:51 PM)
sogoatticus
where is the pet quality in melaka?
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http://www.freewebs.com/mountophir/foradoption.htm

i dunno its pet quality or not..but he said pet quality..at bukit baru..can email him for direction
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Dec 28 2007, 04:43 AM)
To those whoever want to go to Melaka adoption centre there, how bout we go there tomorrow together? Add me @ d3athgu1s3@hotmail.com, maybe we could pay him a visit, since he told me after 8pm tommorow just visit him ^^
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which adoption centre? sweat.gif

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