Folks....I have been googling incinerator news of late, in particular the ones in Japan. Key findings:

1. Incinerators do release pollutants which harm the environment. This is true in the 90s and now the level of toxins released is so insignificant with improvement in technology. In fact, it is better than the toxins released from landfill and removes the odour - if you dont believe me, google. These are based on facts. The many campaigns around to protest are taking old researches.

2. Incinerators do invite people to visit them eg those educational school tours to remove negative images and perception from the public's mind.

3. The proximity of japan incinerators to the city is a fact. Eg, Toshima incinerator and Ikebukuro (major city in Tokyo) is around 1 km. The distance to Nagashio hospital is 400 m or so.

i support incinerators.
but why can't they build it in a more secluded area?

Location makes sense as the landfill is already there right now....look at it from a diff angle. So they are trying to improve landfill impact by incinerating the garbages.

Hong Leong still got DIBS up till now. 

Let me know if you interested to apply.

Vincent
017-3603668
vincenttanhb@gmail.com

The statement of "we are panel since day one" sounds fishy. If HLB is panel since day one, then I think EcoWorld staffs are sleeping or typo error in handouts to buyers for applying loan.
Anyway, good luck bro. No offence here.

standard protocol dear.
am guessing this is their trying their luck method.
offer 3 or 4%.
people not happy, bising bising, more drop out.
more drama, then only maybe, MAYBE, they say additional x%. kekeke.
what a mess, huh?

The chain of events that happened recently will surely trigger EcoWorld to take different measures. During the budget announcement, DIBS is mentioned to be abolished but without mentioning the date. Thus, EcoWorld dare to say the show will go ON.

Then when KPKT announced on 15th Nov.. that all the APDL approved after 15th Nov will not have DIBS. Then Ecoworld has to change direction again as they have yet to get APDL.

Subsequently, the change of calculation of loan that will be based on nett nett value rather than SPA price. This is really a BIG SPANAR in the equation. Communication is top notch so far. Sending letter to purchaser is the way to remind and ensure buyers to speed up loan application process and to secure the LO (regardless the status of DIBS).

When one is embarking on a sailing journey of investment, one has to change direction based on certain info and intuition. There is no one recipe for all. Cancelling DIBS is a must for them to comply with KPKT instruction.

On whether 4% is enough or not, that is tough question. One gotta do some simulation to see the interest incurred.

Does replacing DIBS with 4% make you think this project no longer has the potential to be the next succeeful integrated development? Think again....... Dont let a small obstacle cloud your judgement.

On the proposed incineration plant, there is also a masterplan from the G showing that the MRT station is located diagonally opposite from the proposed site. I seriously dont know what is their intention putting up an incinerator in a highly populated area. Let me share what is so bad about incinerator though some may think incinerator is the way to go....

1. Operating cost and project cost is very high. Those people dont know what they are doing. They may spend alot in training and end up getting nothing. Does Scorpene sound familiar?

2. They may say the cost is now lower. But then it doesnt stop them from putting up VO during construction, just like the new palace...started with 400million and ballonned to 1.2 billion.... Wanna me talk about KLIA2?

3. Incinerator need fossil fuel or huge amount of energy to burn the wastes. Our waste composition is pretty humid or wet. It requires more energy, making it less cost effective. Look at our waste, we have too much cheecheongfun sauve, mee rebus kuah or dhal in it......

4. Have the G try to cultivate the 3R concept..... REDUCE, REUSE AND RECYCLE....? Back home, I recycle the plastic beg from Maximo/Gardenia bread. Vege wastes and fruits wastes are buried as compost in my tiny garden.

5. Putting an incinerator is like curing symptoms rather than curing the root cause. THey ought to put up concerted efforts to reduce wastes and also to reduce consumption of those plastic-based packaging materials such as plastic bags and styrofoam pack for chapfan.....The anology is like going to see an incompetent doctor who just wanna prescribe you antibiotics and paracethamol without inspecting you enough of what cause the fever and inflammation.

6. This incinerator will be spewing out massive quantity of carbon dioxide that contribute to global warming. Eventually, this will lead to more man made disaster, rise of sea level, etc.....

7. Apart from CO2, there could possibly discharge of dioxin and other harmful byproducts. Such pollution will get into the air and our water system....eventually semua kena... Regardless Ecosky, Lakeville, Kiara East FRIM, Selayang, Seri Gombak, Kepong, Jinjang, Desa Park City...etc...

8. There are 2-3 runnings parks nearby the proposed site....Kepong Metropolitan Park, Mastiara Metropolitan Park and also FRIM... all within the radius of 3km... They wanna kill people meh?

9. Have the G trying to divert attention? Similar plant proposed in Kg Bohol Puchong and Broga had been scrapped. Why choose to do it again when rakyat know there is a better way to solve of wastes? remember 3R....

10.... For everyone, regardless you vested in EcoSky or not... Have you done your part in contributing to 3R or to help our Mother Earth? (dont answer me..... answer it to yourself and change now).....

Sorry for the long winded post. PM me if anyone wanna know more about the campaign on Saying NO to Incinerator....

Lawan Tetap Lawan.

taiko, i like the last sentences