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Model Kits Gundam & Mecha Modelling Thread V30, Excitement Embodied

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post Jun 24 2013, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jun 24 2013, 12:06 AM)
since SEED Destiny is in progress now, MANA MY MG AMATSU?! BANDAI?!

Y U GO MAKE HG?
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story revolving gold frame has very little to do with the seed tv series. It take place in the background story b4 seed and 1st half of destiny so it really doesn't matter which seed anime is running, it hold no bearing to its existence. While true it is indeed popular, it is no more popular then the likes of legend and providence which is animated (and cannon as far as Bandai is concern) and is relevant to the anime series. If u r taking the anime a part of ur justification then both the main antagonist should hav 1st dip b4 amatsu is even in consideration.
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post Jun 24 2013, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(TaurusOxford @ Jun 24 2013, 07:51 PM)
If that is a joke I will murder you where you sleep...

PLEASE TELL ME IT'S TRUE!!!
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it is from 1 of the legit hobby source webpage that ngee khiong uses in the past, however it is still only reported by that site and nowhere else at the moment.

consider it semi-legit for now.
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post Jun 25 2013, 09:50 AM

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i dun c ppl hate on hi-nu redesign (well there is some but not as vitriol) so why do ppl hate epyon redesign and by association hate on this zero redesign?

epyon is 1 of the best kit of 2011, extremely underrated. i dun understand why the hate.
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post Jun 27 2013, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(Waachaaa @ Jun 27 2013, 08:55 AM)
Does PG ever on warehouse sale?
I'm looking at older 1 such as ashtray red or mk2.

Is Bandai stopping their PG?
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I've said it b4 and i'll say it again.

PG is not Bandai's main line, in the past there is a void when it comes to PG release it takes several years b4 a new 1 came out. So why r u surprise at the lack of any PG news? Its not like we haven experience this b4.

Unlike MG and HG both rakes in major $$$ hence Bandai release new kit once or twice every month. The smaller kits is easier to design, cheaper to produce, cheaper to maintain their molds, faster turnaround time, and more appealing to consumers by virtue of its size and price tag. As such tey can withstand a bomb or two, tey can take risk and come out with outrageous stuff like Fuuinsaiki, u think Bandai can re-cope the cost of developing PG Fuuinsaiki? Ask urself this, do u buy more MG/HG then PG? Which do u think sells more volume? Put urself in Bandai shoe and the choices in priority is obvious.

Dun put so high hope on PG, ur setting up urself for disappointment. When 1 is release rejoice, when there is none move on to something else. Frankly im quite fed up with all these "when is new PG coming out", "where the hell is the new PG", "why aren't there any new PG", "is PG cancel", etc etc. It'll come out when it come out.

/end rant
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post Jun 27 2013, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(afsarudy @ Jun 27 2013, 09:50 AM)
laugh.gif You sounds like Bandai spoke man.
Or maybe Bandai spy can be more appropriate.
laugh.gif just joking Admiral icon_rolleyes.gif
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i wish.

or mayb i am hmm.gif icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 27 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jun 27 2013, 11:19 AM)
strike is going to be the next one down as it's being outclassed by its newest MG already

save for the hands, of course.. but if u were to somehow get the new hands from the Nu ver ka, strike RM would be good to go
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the new hand isn't really up to par yet. Its an improvement on 2.0 and swap-able hand thats for sure but the wrist joint is a big downside (pun intended).

i think there will be a new ver or at least in development of new hands, the runner says mp1 so i assume there is mp2 or mp3 or more, why put a "1" if there isn't more version of it eh? Surely there will be a rounded 1 made for zeon or smaller size for regular size MG. It look out of place putting such big hand on regular size kit.
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post Jul 4 2013, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(D-y @ Jul 4 2013, 06:00 PM)
laugh.gif I just assume since somebody posted here before. Btw what is MLRS? Not really familiar with the story
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MRLS

it came from harmony of gundam and there is no story behind it, its just a collection of variation design solely for games/model kit. MLRS is just one of em.
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post Jul 13 2013, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(Ikmal91 @ Jul 12 2013, 10:53 PM)
Ahh the Unicorn series looks pretty good. Is it possible to color over the clear parts? From clear pink > clear red/green. Nooblet questions I know XD

Btw what grade do you use for sanding? I'm currently using 2000grit sand papers, but that clogs up pretty fast. Should I get some proper sand files?
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Generally no. Clear paint as its name imply is clear, the underlying base color will be visible (technically even solid paint is somewhat see through especially for lighter colors like white). However if the color tone is not that far off ie pink to red then yes to a certain degree, if the tone is vastly different then nope. Regardless we usually dun altered clear color parts as the underlying base color will be visible and screw up the finishing, only clear non color parts like the eyes and weapon scope will we tend to paint over. Test it on the runner first to c if the results is to ur satisfaction.

use lower grit sand paper, 2000 is too high to start off with. start with 600 and progressively increase the grit as u sand.

also this is the proper thread to ask such question.
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post Jul 20 2013, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(TaurusOxford @ Jul 20 2013, 11:11 AM)
Alex, Kampfer, Ground Gundam, Ez8, Gouf Custom, GP01, GP01fb, GP02, GP03, Double Zeta, Sazabi, Victory 2, Shining Gundam, God Gundam, Master Gundam, Gundam X, Double X, Turn X, etc.

Enough for you?
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well some on ur list are non existence so having 2.0 of an non existing model is abit of a misnomer, but yea i get what u r trying to point out.

i agree 1000%. Especially the gp0's, i mean come on in 4 years time that kit will be 20 years old thats how old it is. However its chances r slim, with recent rg any plans for its future mg (if there were any) would hav to be delayed. Doesn't make business sense to release the same model design on 2 separate line in such short buffer time when both line closely resemble one another technological wise. Without any running series to keep 0083 alive, getting approval from Bandai's executive assuming there were ppl lobbying for it in the 1st place would be difficult i would imagine seeing it having to compete against current running and more recent series. Its prospect doesn't look good.
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post Jul 23 2013, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(TaurusOxford @ Jul 23 2013, 06:23 PM)
The hate comes from people who a). are purists who want a 100% Okawara accurate Wing Zero and b). Hate Hajmi Katoki's redesigns in general. I saw a similar thing with Nu Gundam ver ka when it was announced, cause people hated how Katoki added more detail to the original Nu Gundam design.
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this is not directed at u but i figure this is a good segue to voice the following:

the whole idea of purist is pretty stupid to me. There r no model kit that is 100% accurate, just take a closer look n u would notice there r panel lines not featured in the show, tick marks not featured in the show, proportion not entirely accurate to the show, the moment u put on the decals already makes it different from the show, heck even the show is inconsistent with itself. Remember Epyon's vulcan? Bandai often takes liberty on certain things, joint for instance incorporated armor spliting or some clever mechanism non existent in the show to give it better range of movement yet i dun hear all u purist complaining.

it is disheartening when a good kit was hated base purely on its appearance and ultimately hampering its sale figures. Epyon EW for instance its 1 of the best kit of 2011, 1 of the more solid (if not the most solid) transformable kit out there with tons of posability options, good articulation coupled with sliding wing gimmick and a set of unique weapons. The whip is 1 of the most amazing weapon out there, pose it whereever u wan however u wan and the blade is highly detailed with added bonus of glowing under black light gimmick. Yet bunch of purist go "Hurdur its not the tv version blablabla sucks blablabla not okawara hurdurdur katoki ruin my childhood".

If all u purist wan to condemn something base purely on its appearance then u hav to be consistent and condemn all of em else u r nothing more then a bunch of hypocrite whose opinion r worth less then a gain of salt.
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post Jul 23 2013, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Jul 23 2013, 10:33 PM)
chill out, everyone have right to love/hate
for me Epyon EW is already best kit but the proportion is turn off(not fit with agile and fast image for Epyon in anime)
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not saying Katoki version is pure sucks too.. personally I like the MG Victory & RX-78-2 KA
its all about opinion
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sure u can say u dun like its look and choose not to purchase it i can understand that but cant ppl be objective and giv it props for what it did right? downright writing it off and keep on bashing it just from looks alone is pure stupidity and ive seen plenty with such mentality. If the kit has technical flaws then yes it deserve to be mock but when a kit is perfectly fine, great even, yet being hated on and ultimately influencing other less inform from ever trying it out just by listening to these idiots is really bad to the hobby as a whole.

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post Jul 25 2013, 08:51 AM

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lololol airbrush is for amateurs, that thread should belong in jokes heaven not trade zone. Is he high on weed or something?
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post Jul 25 2013, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Fairalien @ Jul 25 2013, 03:00 PM)
The very 1st gunpla (noob work) and my 1st ever post in Lyn  flex.gif

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Hi everyone!  rclxm9.gif
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welcome, my very 1st gunpla was much much worse then what u hav here, very well done indeed.

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post Jul 25 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(ayonan @ Jul 25 2013, 03:18 PM)
Seeing the Sinanju thred, how can it be so expensive? New to gunpla, so whats determine the value of the gunpla to go up?
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that guy is either trolling or extremely overrated his own skill. Its doesn't cost that much, even expert modeler like chriswoo dun sell his that high without any extreme makeover.

gunpla dun sell back higher then its cost price unless u customize it like mad. The whole point of gunpla is the building process, the end results is just gravy. By selling a finish product it'll diminish its value unless the finish is done extremely well by an expert modeler.
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post Jul 25 2013, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Tiger I @ Jul 25 2013, 10:50 PM)
you ought to get the new MG, that would be a nice homage to this nice old 1/100 kit biggrin.gif
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u called?
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post Jul 26 2013, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jul 25 2013, 11:41 PM)
did i hear.. POISON?!
this one is one of the MOST poisonous kit, to me, at least tongue.gif

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and bandai!! why HG!? why not MG-fy this beauty?!

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yo dawg i heard u liek poison, so i put poison in yo poison so u can buy more gunpla while u buy more gunpla
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post Jul 26 2013, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jul 26 2013, 12:18 AM)
i see u darkened the grey bits on the Nu.. too much contrast, IMO.. preferred the very light tone bandai gave tongue.gif
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to each his own.

the original tone was too light for me, under certain lighting condition u dun even c it so i giv it a heavier contrast while adding some on the shield that was too plain and look out of place with just solid white as oppose to the rest of its body.
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post Jul 26 2013, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jul 26 2013, 12:37 AM)
to each his own indeed.. since mine was just OOB for someone, i did not have the chance to customize it to my liking, however it looks amazing OOB and it has enough panels and parts to allow for extensive customizations.. love the shield though, it does look much better than the solid white.. but still do prefer the off-white rather than full on grey.. not that i'm saying yours doesn't look good though thumbup.gif
got spoilt by RGs mostly, with the off-whites
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well then what u waiting for? its time to get 1 urself and custom it and then sell it for 900 bucks!!! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 30 2013, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(Freedom1104 @ Jul 29 2013, 10:08 PM)
LOL why gundam DX looks similar like freedom  smile.gif  smile.gif
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on the contrary, ur the question should be rephrase the other way around. whistling.gif

and here is the ans:
tey r made by the same mecha designer; kunio okawara, and he has been known to recycle old stuff, just slap on some arms from here, wings from there and voila.

Now whether this is done deliberately as an homage (if it was then i think he over did it in some area), Bandai told him to do so, or he is just lazy. Regardless of which plenty of stuff from seed is recycled idea from somewhere else, SRW, Eiyuutan, Dragonar, Gundam X, F91 just to name a few. Heck seed even recycled stuff from its own universe. Freedom original concept was suppose to be combination of all striker packs into 1 but the idea was rejected, sounds familiar? coughDestinycough doh.gif

don be surprise to find design from seed similar to other stuff, chances r okawara just took those and kitbash em.
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post Jul 30 2013, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jul 30 2013, 09:54 AM)
But then, it make a new gundam recognizable. I means that even at first glance, people can realized, 'hey, its new gundam', not transformers, SRW etc. Which is good for marketing. Its good for manufacturing also.

Sometimes paying homage to old model can be good also, such as Porsche 911. Looks almost the same since its first launch until today, and there even a 'greatest hit version' which they bash all the best feature on all 911 in one car. Porsche enthusiast also dislike newer 911 when Porsche decided to use newer electric power steering to replace the traditional hydraulic version.

Just my 2 cent  wink.gif
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u dun need to slap on old design together to make it recognizable. What classified a gundam is just the head; v fin, mohawk, side vents, mouth piece, two-eyes, any combination of the 2 is enuf for ppl to recognize it. There is no reason to reuse 90% of the wing and weapon design, there is no reason to make the shoulder, backpack, chest, etc so similar. Abit here and there fine u can say its just homage, but doing it so much so often then its just plain lazy.

Exia for instance is unique, so different then conventional gundam that it doesn't look anything like previous incarnation to the point ppl begin to hate it at first but as time goes by ppl accept it, loved it even. If Okawara did it just once or twice sure u can say its homage, but the entire seed and destiny is just 1 big bunch of reuse design slap on together. Wing another of his creation is pretty much the same deal as well, dragon fangs that shoot fire, geez where have i seen it b4 i wonder?

no doubt okawara is a pioneer and a genius but he has drop his balls more often then not as of late. Whether he had reached his creative ceiling or turn lazy is besides the point, Bandai needs to use more ppl like izubuchi to mix things up and im glad 00 went with that route.

take ur porcshe for example, if every car out there look like it it would be a dreary world. We need ferrari and lambo and pagani to spice things up.

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