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Model Kits China Gundam/Plamo Model V7, All about Gundam and Plamo China Brand

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post Jun 20 2013, 02:47 PM

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Congratulation on V7.
7 is a lucky number, hope that we can see more and more great release of china plamo in this thread. smile.gif
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post Jun 20 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(afsarudy @ Jun 20 2013, 03:38 PM)
No wonder la i keep refresh last thread but still no update one.haha.luckily saw the 'closed' button there.
Congratz on V7!!
Ps: ascentic, u need to edit the page starter. It still wrote version 6. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Maybe update the model list of each Brand, but too much to ask for IMHO... tongue.gif
I already appreciate that he open new thread for us while he is busy with work, thanks bro ascentic. smile.gif
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post Jun 20 2013, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Lelouch @ Jun 20 2013, 04:33 PM)
is the list being posted on first post based on quality?
i lost track of post that told which brand recommended to buy from previous thread

i think it somewhat said not to buy hongli and buy gaogao because hongli quality not nice but now see first post said hongli gaogao is same brand
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For bootleg plamo, I would recommend BT, Daban, MCModel, Gogo/GaoGao/TT(same brand), DragonMomoko, STK and maybe SilverCastle for their SD(their quality not so good but still in my acceptable range).
Brand to avoid, GHD/GD Model, RC(nightmare gundam) unless you are very confident with your modelling skill or you don't mind to give them a try. KC brand(BB shenshi) few model are great but there are a lot of fail models that they downgrade/modify the parts which make them sucks and instruction booklet can throw into dustbin.

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post Jun 20 2013, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(dopeycheese @ Jun 20 2013, 10:36 PM)
dafuq tats daban pg SF??! impossibruuu!  rclxm9.gif
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Yes, as you said that is impossible to be daban PG SF it was Pandai brand and painted build. But Daban SF can look like that after you do shading like that.
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post Jun 21 2013, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(ascentic @ Jun 21 2013, 10:20 AM)
My Pleasure  icon_rolleyes.gif
Well, That's true.. Dun care weather it's Bandai Brand or China Brand.. with good skill.. definately will make everything from mission impossible to mission possible.!

By the way, Group Build 002 will be announce shortly.. and.. got some feedback from the suggestion and feedback from Facebook group,

I will try sync the participants from Forum and Fb smile.gif .. if possible.. and also people don't mind paying RM 5 for participation and some sponsors from local sellers.. and from what I can see, it will be a fair competition..

category 1: PG vs PG
category 2: MG vs MG
category 3: NG vs NG
category 4: HG vs HG
category 5: SD vs SD

All categories must have at least minimum of 5 people to start the competition.
Criteria will be all out!.. If got do diorama as end presentation.. will give bonus mark of 10 Marks.. where total will be 100 marks! this is to encourage people who join have the basic idea of final presentation of the their model kit!  thumbup.gif

Cheers,
whistling.gif  it's not yet final.. but it's a rough idea of how GunPlaMo group build will be held..
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Yay Yay! I guess I will go for HG vs HG. biggrin.gif

And extra 10 points for diorama was a good idea, encourage people to put more effort on their model and also a good chance for all of us to learn and collect experience through the building process. Since 10marks occupied 10% of total mark, I think there is no way that I will let it go although I never do any diorama before.

But one little problem there, for those who don't do painting was quite hard to do a great diorama. But I believe nothing is impossible, they will need a lot of creativity and effort to make it look good, and they might win with their creativity. So I'm here to encourage straight builder to participate this as well and try to do a good diorama with your creativity. But if you don't want to try, there is always another option which don't do diorama and lose your bonus 10 marks. thumbup.gif

And one question here, each person can only participate one category or more? Because I found that it might be not so fair if someone really good skill participate most of the categories and get all the champion, I'm not saying that the person don't deserve it but rather take all the prizes why don't give a chance to other modelers? But as you said this is not a final decision, we will see how it turns out. smile.gif

QUOTE(quengkol @ Jun 21 2013, 12:12 PM)
Gratz to v7! biggrin.gif Is there an estimated price for that kshat?
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So far I've seen Elyn Kshatriya price was around RM 600, could be lower could be higher depends on which seller. But law suit problem with Elyn, you got the money doesn't mean you can get it, just good luck to those have PO or plan to buy. smile.gif

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post Jun 21 2013, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(ascentic @ Jun 21 2013, 03:05 PM)
Well, Decision is still not final..

But as I said.. if u got do diorama means automatically will get 10/100, The rest is 90 marks is up to you to impress the judge!.. I decided to ask people to do diorama is because I want more people try to make something different instead of a simple stand smile.gif

Of coz I know people will be going to have fun doing straight build.. and some who like to take challenge to do paint job.. and some who is pro enough to take up extra miles.. to do modification..

well, all of this gunpla-plamo is about creativity!.. there's no right no wrong..! then for judging definitely.. will add in the categories for Straight build.. and coloring.. and modification.. maybe something like this:

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Impressive categories! This one is more specific. thumbup.gif

I noticed that many young generation modelers(already involved in modelling for quite many years) in Malaysia still at the starting point of intermediate level, they still far away from pro level whereas you can see many young modelers in Japan, HK, USA, Philippine, Australia, etc already have good skills compare to us. I'm not pointing this or insult any modelers in Malaysia, just saying the truth that I've seen. No one is born perfect, but we can work hard to get ourselves near to perfect. Same in modeling, keep on practicing and update your modeling knowledge would be a great help in building your basis and improve your future build. There are too many factors that cause modelers "stuck" at their current level, so I'm not going to mention it here. But there is a way to overcome some of the factors and building or "level up" ourselves, which is Group Build or Competition. So that I know the reason you give 10 marks bonus for diorama build and encourage them to do so, and I also agreed with you on my previous reply. I believe that this GB would be a great chance for us to learn something, no pain no gain right. smile.gif

But maybe you should not just directly give bonus 10 marks for dio, should use the 10 marks to judge the dio. Because if directly give 10marks for dio, then what is the difference making a good dio and a poor work dio? And it might be not fair when someone easily get 10marks with poor dio against those who don't have dio but with good build. Of course those without dio will automatically lose 10marks. Well just my two cents worth of advice bro. smile.gif

And another suggestion here, instead of just diorama maybe a good customized base should include in the 10marks judging? So that people that don't know do diorama can custom their base to make it look as well instead of boring plain base. Because there are good looking bases that I have seen before, and I can say that those bases could stand nearly same level with diorama in terms of creativity.

Open spoiler to see some examples of custom base, Pro till acceptable level.
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post Jun 21 2013, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(ascentic @ Jun 21 2013, 04:59 PM)
Thanks for the prompt reply..

I give 10 marks for Diorama is not to judge on lausy or good diorama smile.gif.. is just to make sure everyone must have a good presentation at the end of the day.. during the submission of the photo.. and for this time, I shall limit the photo taken to 200 pictures per album.. which is in Facebook categories, and also for those who don't have facebook.. please upload it to photobucket.. or blogs.. then it's easier to be judge.

like I say, no matter how good you want your base be or no matter how grant your base be.. it's up to u smile.gif bonus mark.. well, I will meet the judge this weekend.. and have a round table meeting with them.. to see how to allocate the points.. then from there I will know how to set the criteria..  whistling.gif

Cheers,  thumbup.gif
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No objection on the bonus marks as long as we achieve the objective. And I will take that customized base will be getting the bonus marks.
So after your meeting and set all the rules and regulations, we will start our engines for this GB. tongue.gif
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post Jun 21 2013, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(limfreelance @ Jun 21 2013, 05:40 PM)
eh..no place for 1/48 gundam head stand?????
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Then you must pray hard lor... I think not much people will be compete with head stand because not everyone want to or know to make a good looking one.

I hope there will be enough participant for Modification HG vs HG because that was a great category and I want to mod HG kit! If not enough I sure request some adjustment for categories so that I can enter with modded HG. tongue.gif
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post Jun 24 2013, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(ascentic @ Jun 24 2013, 03:49 PM)
OT abit.. Well.. I tot Gundam coming to Malaysia ... and use haze to cover their tracks.. well.. guess that... it's the other way round.. the haze is caused by the battle between the monster and ultraman  brows.gif

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LOL... today I ask my bro "Do you know why got so many haze? It's actually caused by gundam war, they use haze to cover their fight."
When I saw this post, I'm like WTF!
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(ascentic @ Jun 26 2013, 11:10 AM)
Which you like?

First or Second?

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Both not my cup of tea. But if have to choose between them, I will pick the 2nd. First one look kinda odd, no V fin will be better.
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post Jun 26 2013, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(Tiger I @ Jun 26 2013, 06:54 PM)
i agree. In my opinion such amount of money should at least guarenteed that what we are getting is in excellent quality. The saying 'you get what you've paid for' should applied to such thing too.

If doing a rather unfair comparison, 700 would get:
Big sized AT-AT, or MF
Hot Toys Avenger's member (maybe one, or two)
Good 3rd party Transformers
Huge 1/6 3A figure

Do correct me if I am wrong though sweat.gif
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Don't know about the actual quality of the things you mentioned because I don't have any, but what I know is Hot Toys product are decent. So that I expect this Kshatriya should be have the quality on par with them!
Not to mention the plastic give me cheapo feel, but what's wrong with the hands?! A newbie gunpla collector that know basic modelling skills can do better than that. Those noob marks are freaking ugly! doh.gif Seriously I can get other great things with RM 700, or even buy 60 units of SD gundam will give me more satisfaction than this!
And I like the way you use 'you get what you've paid for', sometimes I also use in special cases but easily make people confuse or misunderstanding. tongue.gif

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post Jun 26 2013, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jun 26 2013, 08:27 PM)
haha, excuses like 'u get what you paid for' should only be applied to cheapo things like china gunpla that is half the price of ori brows.gif
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Ya, it sounds negative lol. tongue.gif
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post Jun 26 2013, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jun 26 2013, 09:31 PM)
my point exactly.. but so far molding does not look promising.. i only hope no issue with snap fitting
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Talk like you PO it. brows.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jun 26 2013, 11:37 PM)
Hope that daban pg sf don't disappoint me....
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Based on the quality of their previous kits, probably won't give you a disappointed PG SF.
I have more interested in their premium items. If I'm not mistaken, free battery, poster, stand and metal parts. smile.gif
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post Jul 1 2013, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(dopeycheese @ Jul 1 2013, 04:33 PM)
someone...anyone...
i bought the hi nu evo, can the water decal work without mark setter?
if can stick by itself steadily then dunnid to go out all the way just for a mark setter
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Of course can work without mark setter... Mr. Mark Setter is an adhesive agent and it prepares the model's surface for decal application. In other words, it's used to make the decal stick better. The first step is to apply the solution to the surface that you want your decal to be applied on. Then place the decal on the surface and adjust accordingly. Once done, wipe off the excess of the solution and wait for it to dry. The best thing about using Mr. Mark Setter is that you can adjust the decal to the position of your liking while the solution is still wet.

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QUOTE(Lacersan @ Jul 1 2013, 07:34 PM)
Reading online reviews, some talk about missing parts, hard to fit in, miscolor, poorly made decals.

But, with modding, fitting in parts, color are not an issue.

Anyone encounter missing parts yet?
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Pandai also have missing parts, broken parts although not always happen but I have experienced it. Well that is QC problem, Japan QC is better, whereas you know how's China QC. If you pick correct or recommended china plamo brand, usual encountered problems will be a bit loss of details compared to original, plastic quality not so good, colour a bit difference, foil stickers not so good, and maybe some minor snap fit problem. But those can be easily fix with your modeling skills, and by doing that you can improve your skills. smile.gif

Bear in mind that, you pay 50% or less than original price, so don't expect their quality will be excellent. But I will say that it was good replacement for those who have tight budget or those who want to try something new like customize and painting. Even if you failed, your wallet won't be hurt so much compare you spoiled an original kit.

Besides that, some China Plamo companies offers some add on parts, premium items or little modification for their model kit which you can't get from Pandai. And I will say that their premium, mods are excellent and absolutely worth your money. Just a little 'warning', if you started china plamo, the poison is far more dangerous than original and you may not recover forever and I'm one of them. tongue.gif

EDITED and ADD ON: Oh, btw so far I don't encounter any missing parts from china plamo.

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post Jul 1 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jul 1 2013, 11:07 PM)
Careful when applying top coat, the pu (for the joints) part might breaks (mine did).

Actually,, china bootleg are much poisonous, because its cheap. Might ended up buying more kits, and as a result spending more time assembling, more money for paint and coating, and also the space issue which will leads to buying more display cabinets. laugh.gif
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Good points there bro, collections certainly will mass increase in short period. Now I have many bootleg backlog and need to invest in Airbrush and paint soon after I successful pass my AirAsia interview tomorrow. After get a job, I can use those backlog to test my Airbrush. tongue.gif
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post Jul 2 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jul 2 2013, 04:57 PM)
not sensei, i had this problem before sweat.gif and i find it works better than spraying white over and over again until it actually turns white.. alternatively u can also use chrome silver marker to scribble all over the part, and then spray white over it tongue.gif the silver is just to hide the default color and prepare a nicer undercoat for the white to stick on
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Yup you are right, I spray white color on my kit without any problem... And that was long ago and I seriously a newbie but it works...
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QUOTE(limfreelance @ Jul 3 2013, 12:36 PM)
i PO normal version bcos the price is very awesome, & i wanna paint or modify it only.
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Haha yup, mine also damn cheap with special gift from seller. Worth to buy for modification and painting tongue.gif
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QUOTE(acestoro @ Jul 4 2013, 08:49 PM)
Still thinking whether to get the PG strike freedom.. don't think got shelf space for me..  doh.gif
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Just buy, no regret. I also no shelf for my gundam now, but I still buy and display it on top of my cabinet or table. tongue.gif

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