The PC version runs at higher res (limited to 720p on PS3) natively and higher frame rate ( locked to 30 on ps3 ) .
You are still going to get the ultimate technical experiences both graphics and performance wise on PC.

I haven't tried the game on PS3 , but the PS3 Hardware specification has gone obsolete for several years already .
According to a Famitsu issue on February , the PS3 also has limitation on how many characters can be displayed on screen at once.
The background rendering speed of both version will also be dramatically different. These was done so the watered down version will not affect the gameplay .

Its an MMORPG , think about the future expansion with more graphic updates, extra textures and technical tidbits added on current game , eventually the gap between both version are growing to be larger.


If we're talking about PS4 that's a different story . Again MMORPG are still best played on PC for many other reasons.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 21 2013, 11:47 PM

Your comparison is entirely invalid because FF9 is not an online game . FF14 has stepped into the modern age with gazillion of other MMO floating around , the concept are totally different.


Guild Wars 2 , as much as they hate to admit it is primarily a PVP game . Their PVE aspect is a little lackluster compare to game that tried to balance on both ( such as W.O.W ). Their subscription model has apparently been working well . FF14 is leaning more towards WOW where they attempt to balance in both section.

I am very sure FF14 will have raid, but whether if it will be as large as 40man raid like some mmo , remains to be seen .


I will let you know that I have been one that been throwing my opinions yet I have never seen so much negative reply from 1 single post in this thread .
I have taken a liking to this game and I planned to stick around for awhile .

The difference is , I am not looking for people to agree with me. And I reserve all things I've typed strictly as my very own opinion . I give credits where its due .
Although most of the things you posted are very subjective ( for example Archer's Damage is super low , have you even do a dps spreadsheet on it ? ), else it is mere hyperbole and filled with anger , it is no wonder people disagree with you in that tone .


And now there is a fine line between generic and competitive . The previous FF14 stood out to be a deviant ( or you may say "unique") and look at how much negative response they have gotten throughout the era . People could have asked , " Hey GW2 has this Feature XXX , why don't FF14 has it ? " . And when FF14 has the same feature , it was branded as " generic " or copycat .

Don't look for anything groundbreaking in the game yet , but instead look for the improvement it has gotten compare to the previous version.

I must say if you have not played the original FF14 , you will not see or come to appreciate how good the current game is .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 24 2013, 03:37 PM

You are posting in a FF14 forum , there are , without doubts a bunch of players here that really like the game and defend against your opinions.




You are actually semi wrong about the ' listening to feedback " thing. As stated by Everquest designe or ghostcrawler, the all time infamous Theorycrafting destroyer from WOW , developers are ultimately to decide if a certain game design should be implement or not . Players of course , always want the most convenient way to shape up things . On a business standpoint this actually will contradict the system to allow players to have more things to do during their subscription period. Plus players can always be biased . So at the end a Game that follow 100% from the player's feedback will not work either .


Nada . Hype can be delusional . So is the meaning of being ' successful " . Do you consider GW2 being successful ? ( after having grabbed more than 4 millions player worldwide )

And read my last post , your current expression is filled with anger and hatred, hyperbole, opinions and subjective statement .
People could disagree with you for once, can they not ? Plus a more constructive discussion would be carried out better in the actual game forum .



That is actually not really strange , did I tell you D3's alpha feedback forum used to have restriction where you can only post 1 feedback per day ?

You have certainly gotten your way to "express" yourself here this time , yet what's up with the anger and hatred ? More like you are pissed that nobody here actually agree with you on things.



Again , looking for a groundbreaking game ? Look elsewhere because FF14 isn't here to fill your shoe .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 24 2013, 04:08 PM

If a game is not visually appealing to you , then there is still gameplay , no ? If the aesthetics of the game are only what you are after , then I assure you , you will get bored quickly regardless of the game genre.


But honestly , if you take sometimes to read out some of these wall of texts design philosophy , you will understand why were some of the decision of the game was made , as much as there were so many people against it . I read them everyday yet I am no longer subscribed to the game or even playing it .

You played a lot of games ,you can grow to become numb to a lot of 'exciting' things because they have been done before. I , myself is in that kind of position right now . When I get into a new game now , I tend to try to forget what previous games I have played in the past but to enjoy the moment.

It is only then , some of the most endurance challenging features showed up and annoyed me .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 24 2013, 04:09 PM

-I want choices, lot's of choices
u can pvp, wvw, dungeon, farming, jumping puzzle, play music etc
Yea right , except when the farming get tedious , the dungeons got boring , the jumping puzzle got frustrating. A lot of choices I am sure , however none appealing except if you pvp aton.

-levelling is part of the fun, NOT a grind to make it to max level in order to enjoy the actual contents
end game content start from lvl1, no grinding, just hav fun till max lvl then play normally forward
leveling is a progression towards the game , which it should be achievement . To remove the grinding process by Restarting from level 1 is hardly a solution but more like chopping your fingers off because the nails grew long , it was one of the things I disagree with GW2 .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 24 2013, 06:24 PM

Isn't it more like the aesthetic than graphics for you , for example if they remove all the nekomimi costumes from FF14.....

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 24 2013, 04:18 PM

I wasn't talking about grinding. What I meant was , progression is a part of MMORPG is all about . Whats the purpose to keep playing if your character don't earn any sort of advancement ?

The grinding part does not has to exist in every aspect of the game . To reach your goal, you could have taken a different path and make a different decision .
That is whats going to make the progression interesting , instead of sticking at endlessly killing raid bosses, praying to god who knows when is your next upgrade or restart your progression to level 1 for the matter.

Because this is a double edge argument . It is another one of those " works so well on paper , but not in real life " theories .
It will only make the game more streamlined to the point its not exciting to get any upgrades anymore ( the current version of WOW is a great example of this )

There is this game called Eden Eternal , having the exact same system. However they are still having a problem with it.
The dungeon solo mode started out to be rather easy and have rather compelling rewards , eventually nobody wanted to group anymore .
After that the dev adjust the difficulty and remove the rewards , nobody is doing the solo mode anymore. Recently I've heard they have finally decide to remove the [SOLO] mode from the game permanently.


Remember in a game , majority of the player will always use the shortcuts. Eg: If there are 3 difficulty modes , you are going to have hell lotsa trouble tuning the difficulty . And you can be assured that majority of the player will play the easist mode, and the least played mode just happen to exist there for nothing since only minority will try it out.

This is not effective in terms of cost and development , because of the manpower they used to tune and create the difficulty for 3 modes , they could have spare the manpower for something else , maybe making another extra dungeon instead .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 24 2013, 06:46 PM

Obviously , Scarlet Blade . That game was basically pornographics in MMORPG form.

There are quite several unique and brilliantly designed mmo from the past few years , but these mmo never make it big . Hence you never play it , or even heard of it .
Such as TSW ( currently the highest reviewed and rated game on mmorpg.com ) .


Nexon & 讯腾 are cash cow companies , you won't get anything from them.
They are mostly aiming to drain the pocket money of school boys and school girls with those wicked P2P costumes .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 30 2013, 01:42 PM

No , but I bet someone with a lot of leisure times will probably make an add-on for that .


It is generally a bad idea to make a DPS meter , because players in the game do not have access to debugging tools like developers therefore most results they have obtained are inaccurate.
And once they see how their class are not competitive enough ( which generally rubs the player at the wrong way ) , they will start complaining and that is when the endless cycles of the class-balancing begin.


Just take a look at the notorious W.O.W . This is the 9th years ,they still probably spent 50% of their effort tuning the class DPS.
Not because that classes are imbalance , but because there a lot of player demands for it .

If you are theorycrafting just so you can see improvement on yourself then thats good for you , but 99% of the players don't give a damn and mainly playing the theoritically highest dps class just for the e-peen.

This will eventually spoil the game progression , because Square Enix don't nearly have a developers team like Blizzard and if they are forced to spend 50% of their effort into their developing cycles , you can expect the upcoming contents to slowly crawling out by years.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 30 2013, 01:41 PM

I actually think you are a little harsh here . He was merely stating his opinions even if its the negative one , and whether if he adds extra notion regarding his impression is something else beyond your control and is totally not against the regulation of the forum.

I could pretty much rephrase your own lines and tell you to stop reading if you don't care about his opinions.

The Titan card is currently a super luxury and overkill for anything that can be possible in the gaming world right now.
That is like casting a supernova to kill a stray cat .


According to geekbench , Titan is 3 times stronger than PS4's GPU ...


From what I am seeing , the game is just running very well on wide range of Nvidia cards. ( Sorry ATI users, can't say the same for you )
The developers have did a really fantastic job optimizing the games for different types of setups .

I was running the game between 2 different PC..
One with a GTX 560ti OC ( 57~60 consistent FPS running on maximum shadow + grass setting and all maxed out )
The other one GTX 680 ( getting constant 58~60 fps even in crowded city )

There isn't really much difference between both of them.


My only complain is the AA in this game is still quite terrible , which is such a shame because the game has a lot of beautiful details.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 30 2013, 01:56 PM

200~300 ms is rather typical and normal for connection to USA servers.
Unless you pvp intensively , the PVE aspect shouldn't be too much of a problem despite of the ping difference.

Theres no doubt some some people here could read japanese , else its rather pointless to play in a server where you don't understand a thing spit by the other players.


Japanese players usually single out the foreigners , been doing that since FF11 time .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 30 2013, 11:10 PM

well for generations , MY players have been active in many US-based rpg such as Everquest and Anarchy Online.
250-300ms are the best you can get even with ping reduction program like gamepath .


There got to be some difference , afterall the 0.1 sec delay will definitely bother in PVP . But not in PVE .
But then You are not getting 20 ms like the Japanese based players on their regional servers , you will still definitely lose out in ping when pvp-ing if that 0.1 delay is that crucial .


I don't think FF14 ARR is that fast ( or even describe it with fast ) , its faster than original FF14 .
The combat for example in TERA is much more responsive . Yet there is no Asian servers on TERA . GW2 has no Asian servers too .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 1 2013, 12:17 AM

You are still getting 150-200 ms on the Japanese servers , no ?

The difference between us MY players on US and JP should be roughly between 0.1-0.15 seconds ( 100-150ms )

If the game is fixated on setting escaping an AOE spell by 0.15 seconds , then something is very wrong with the game .
Because even playing with perfect pings , some of us have got slower responsive system than the 0.15 seconds delay.

the easy mode right not the lvl 50 right ? yes


This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 1 2013, 02:08 AM

US of course . It was nothing compare to the heroic raiding on old Everquest & WOW. After sometimes you just learn to anticipate it.

I have removed the url because of the NDA . But thats what they said at the beginning of P3 ,they have update us on the NDA or anything after that.
Theres already people streaming the game everywhere like nico nico , even famitsu editor did some unofficial live stream on their amoeba blog I doubt they really care about this by now

This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 1 2013, 04:49 AM