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post Jun 28 2013, 12:10 AM

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Does anyone here carry or have PT Nuke fluid for sale? Or knows anyone or any store locally that carries them?

My build is done and the coolant uses dye+distilled water, and I'd dont want to use silver killcoil to avoid spoiling its looks.

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post Jun 28 2013, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Jun 28 2013, 12:43 AM)
pm niclasteoh, he carry mayhems biocide. Same function as PT Nuke.
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No mismatch or unwanted reaction if using it between different coolant dyes? Because I'm using PrimoChill dye.
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post Jun 30 2013, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Jun 30 2013, 12:41 AM)
Big plexi that shows your board but with details. Nice looking water channels. And lots of color/LED stuff. LOL~

This time bulk, can reach within one week? tongue.gif

They travels 4000 miles in just 4 hours. Our post laju travels just few hundred kilometers in several hours. If 4000 miles, IDK when local parcel can arrive. LOL~
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Time zone difference. No commercially available cargo planes nor commercial airliner makes 4000 miles in 4 hours. That's slightly less KL to Istanbul and that flight alone is 9 hours.
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post Jul 3 2013, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(nohal @ Jul 3 2013, 02:01 AM)
Cost of a Kancil. What a funny story, "I bought a desktop worth of a low end Kancil. For what? IDK, nothing elsewhere to spend to."
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That's not funny. And that's not how the story even remotely goes. Don't simply tell stories you don't know of.

A low end Kancil or any car for that matter, on Malaysian roads are overpriced for what it is here in Malaysia. For something that is designed to get around on roads, but getting stuck in traffic at snail pace, that value of a low end Kancil makes it an expensive proposition isn't it?

A high end rig that's designed for specific reason and achieves it, has more value and reason than a low end Kancil that's stuck in KL traffic all the time and not moving, defeating its purpose as a car.

Depends on how you see it. People see it subjectively as value proposition based on their disposable income. I see no value on disposing that money in a low end Kancil living in downtown KL. I also see no value on disposing that income on luxury items like LV and Hermes while others buys Tod's summer collection at more than this price without even blinking. Yet people tolerate that instead of a well-built, razor-sharp-focused-purposed rig? shakehead.gif

I'm not dissing you for your opinion on value proposition on things. Everyone has their own. Instead of dissing it, look up WHY it is build at such a way in the first place.

Different people see it at different limits of what they CAN spend on their hobbies. Anything beyond it, they start seeing as a non-value proposition, a waste to them because they can't find a good reason for them to have them or financially maintain them. BUT that still does not make it any less than a well built rig. I can see more affordable rigs which is well build as well, its lower price tag does not detract from the appreciation and the fact that it is well built. Credit where it's due. Simple as that.

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post Jul 3 2013, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(unequalteck @ Jul 3 2013, 08:46 AM)
Come on guys, we all WCer should support each other. Friends around me always criticize about why spending so much on PC. They will never understand us. Just like I don understand they can spend few k for a wallet or bag. They said PC value depreciate fast, but I don't think branded stuff can keep their value too, unless u invest on property. If we are not steal or rob the money, I don't see any problem if fully utilized the money
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There are things I consider wasteful in this world as well. Luxury cars like Pagani Zondas driving in KL congested roads, people owning luxury yatchs in Malaysian waters, Tod's RM30k handbags, for example. Certain things are not good value proposition for me as well, based on what they are meant to do and what they get in return. Pagani Zondas in a crawling KL traffic jam and potholed roads? Luxury yatchs in Malaysia where people don't cultivate the maritime culture here other than the hobby of "tangkap ikan for fun"? Dont get me started on that Tod's handbags. Those are expenditures not value-proposed. This rig was build with one purpose: 4K. If you don't see yourself running or interest in 4K, the voices of "waste money lah" is a guarantee for sure. For those who understand why, even if it is not within their financial means, they get it. It does not detract from the fact that it is a well-built rig. And all credits goes to the builder, not the "waste of money" financier who funded this build.

Appreciation of aesthetics and performance of watercooled build can be had even if the rig does not cost astronomically as this. I appreciate, AND ENVY, rigs that had acrylic tubings heat-bended to custom routing, for example. It does not cost much more than sweat, determination and some elbow grease, but it's an appreciation nonetheless. Why cant people appreciate that rig for what it is? Perhaps it's better if the price is left out, then people would sing a different tune. Or maybe not. I cant read minds here. All I see are folks who based their appreciation on watercooled built rigs on their financial meter, not on the aesthetics or performance metrics of the rig itself. Anything beyond possible funding means is an automatic "waste of money". Why even bother posting that link on MillionDollarPC on the first post of this thread then?

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post Jul 3 2013, 08:59 PM

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No fire, no smoke. Got fire, have to extinguish. Posting something that is non-flammatory should not scare you. You're only scared when you know you've done something wrong.

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post Jul 3 2013, 09:13 PM

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Noted. Using this in air-conditioned room. SO I'm hoping to not to have to service this until as long as possible.
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post Jul 5 2013, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(jedi_dc @ Jul 5 2013, 05:52 PM)
Thanks for the reply,

I'm looking for something like this Phobya splitter

What are you guys using to power the fans on your custom loops? im sure there should be more than 2 fans excluding CPU,GPU hmm.gif

EDIT : the PCI card wont do, my prodigy does not have extra pci bracket  sad.gif
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This?



Bitspower X-Station II. Singularity Computer builds use these a lot.
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post Jul 5 2013, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(jedi_dc @ Jul 5 2013, 06:41 PM)
Yes, that would be perfect! Any idea if any local distributors have it now and what is the price range?
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Like irienaoki said, Apes.my used to bring them in. I think you'll have to import this either yourself or participate in bulk orders organized here.
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post Jul 7 2013, 05:52 PM

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I'll just leave this here. All credit goes to APES.

Design concept and inspiration by me. Executing the dream and building this helluva rig, by APES. All thanks to the brilliant master builders, the APES guys!

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RM4450 for the liquid cooling loop.

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post Jul 7 2013, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(irienaoki @ Jul 7 2013, 06:27 PM)
why mine more expensive than u guys?
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Your coolant liquid gold. Befitting the Gold Digger. tongue.gif

I transfuse my blood into mine. Blood is cheap.
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post Jul 7 2013, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(irienaoki @ Jul 7 2013, 06:42 PM)
gold dicker used AIO.
im talking about my other rig.
i think i spent around 7k for it.2 loops with just dual gpu.
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what other rig? Should I dig your FB for this?
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post Jul 7 2013, 09:53 PM

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Found the chassis for my next living room liquid-cooled gaming HTPC build. All that is left is to wait for AMD to come out with their next-gen cards. Current cards are EOL. Buying the chassis/case only.

https://www.steigerdynamics.com/products-le...ifications.aspx

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post Jul 8 2013, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(qwe13 @ Jul 7 2013, 11:01 PM)
that's one sweeeettt setup boss... rclxms.gif

speaking on the amount of money in building a w/c setup, my previous AMD was over 10k.. crazy.  rclxub.gif
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70+ days to finish. Some confusion on the initial direction of the build designs, a few frustrated moments, and believe it or not, that T-virus res was the second one shipped in, the first one was thought to be lost when shipped by USPS/Pos Malaysia when it took more than a month and no news or tracking details. I had to ask APES to reorder another from PPC and rush it in. Like what Vlad said, it seems like the first one was swallowed by a black hole or something, no news nothing. Only when the second res arrived, Pos Malaysia called them about the first res, after more than a month! Never will I ever use USPS ever again. Useless buggers.

That 70 days also gave me focus on what I want on the build. Initially it was just to replace the old Alienware Area-51 ALX with updated parts, with thoughts of still gaming at 1440p. With the continual delays, it gave me time to think about how I can make this better. What's better than 1440p? 4K! And also give rise to how the design evolve from being a simple/hidden loop, to the very visible loop you see now. I aimed to project the amount of power this rig has with the fierceness of how the loop looks by making it more visible. If I can get away with it, I'd even go as far as Vlad's own purple-looped monster of a rig! rclxms.gif


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post Jul 11 2013, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(qwe13 @ Jul 11 2013, 12:18 AM)
seems like one by one is slowing down  sad.gif  need more active enthusiasts to keep the joint going.. coz, for me, even though no longer active inside the forum but it realty is an enjoyment to see new builds n upgrades in here..
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The scene isstill active and more happening, only somewhere else. I find that folks are more helpful and encouraging in that "somewhere else" place than here. Just my observation, hence why you see the conversation going on around here revolves around particular few select people only.
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post Jul 13 2013, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(HoNeYdEwBoY @ Jul 12 2013, 08:57 PM)
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time to spam some pic :3
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Is it just me or is that red PCB card drooping/senget a bit?

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post Jul 14 2013, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(pristine @ Jul 14 2013, 01:51 AM)
But now with extreme tube lengths courtesy of some local modders, primochill and e22, short tubes don't really have much of a place except for those who want quick fixes and are well, lazy. tongue.gif
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That depends on what space you have inside the chassis. If going for long just for the length's sake, it introduces another factor into the build: fragility. Acrylic tubes aren't crack- or shatterproof, and long lengths means more possibilities of cracking it. Not to mention having to mod a way (like one of SingularityComputer's build) to prop the rigidity along the lengths of the longer tubes by adding custom acrylic brace. Some chose shorter lengths as means of a design, to hug the area of a particular block of GPUs for example, rather than simply choosing unnecessary lengths of acrylics just to show tube lengths and coolant in it.

It's easier said than done, by some, about "too many extenders not showing liquid means not impressive", put your mouth/money/elbow grease where it matters and show what you can do first before commenting. Then you'd have only the slightest idea on how much more complex rigid tubing loops are. I'd be more empathic to your comments here when you yourself have build "impressive loops". I've seen how these builds are made, and I admit I' not one to comment on how tough they are to make, those who are building it are more appropriate to comment, but from their own expressed comments of these folks commissioned to build these loops, I get their impression that they are hard to do. Someone said to me that made sense a while back "kalau tak pandai, jangan memandai mandai", and I wholly agree with that sentiment, I'm not good at doing these, so I employ the service of those who are good at these. And from the impressions I get from these folks, it is tough.

What I'm trying to say is that, you try and do it first if you think it's impressive, then your opinion holds weight. Otherwise it's all just opinions and conjectures. And you know what they say about opinions being like a****les, everyone have them, that opinion holds more weight if you hold yourself to that so-called "impressive standards" to your own build.

Just my 2 cents.
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post Jul 14 2013, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(pristine @ Jul 14 2013, 02:29 AM)
um. I don't know.
This is true too. thumbup.gif

nb. blink.gif I hope this wasn't aimed at me. lol.
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Not you. The first paragraph is for you. The rest, is the chilli sauce condiment meant to be passed all around. Whoever feel hot and spicy, too much Lingam Chilli sauce.

There are builds, like that "Queen of Blades" build:

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where it makes aesthetic sense to have long acrylics, but it also means he have to plan his loops wisely, than just "lengths for length's sake". And imagine the horrors if one of those lengthy acrylic cracks. It's easier to maintain and replace shorter lengths of acrylic than risking long lengths and having it spilling coolants all around you. For a seasoned builder like the build of that "Queen of Blades", he has the means, skills and resources to maintain that rig should something bad happens to it. Do we have steady supply of resources like acrylics and tools, or personal means of resources of time and money, to even maintain it like he does? That builder does it for a living, he can maintain that build 24/7 and make money out of it, I believe most of us here delve into this hobby as what it is, a hobby, something that is part-time and a set amount of budget.

My opinion still stand, show me your build first before you call anything "unimpressive". This is on behalf of the time and effort spent by custom builders doing their customer builders while some of you easily disses it for being "unimpressive".
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QUOTE(nohal @ Jul 14 2013, 02:35 AM)
There it goes again. Sorry brother. I'll be out from now on.

That statement was only meant for me as I prefer normal tubing then rigid tubing. I'm not saying other build which uses crystallink is not impressive at all, just not to me. One build was very awesome and was build by vladtheimpaler . Which is one of the old timer WCer.
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And his purple build is made of tons of short acrylics connected together by extenders. by your definition previously, this is "unimpressive". Now you're saying it's awesome? Which is which?
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QUOTE(pristine @ Jul 14 2013, 02:41 AM)
Cool. Got me worried for a moment. haha. icon_rolleyes.gif

I saw that build. Crazy on so many levels. I respect his patience to measure, check, measure, bend, measure, and finally fit.
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When and If I build for a living, you'll be sure I strive for those levels for my own personal builds. Until that happens, ease of maintainence and peace of mind comes first and of paramount importance.

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