Who say change car....plan to change car earlier....but discover money not only not enuf, got deep debt over 20 years. Give up on changing car liao at least until I kena lottery. Wait gotta ask my wife go buy 4D.

Too quiet also complain kah !!!!!

I love the seamless drive of CVT (at least for the City). If you drive it like an auto or manual, of course you will feel no power as a lot of ppl have complained abt City CVT. If you understand CVT optimal pickup climb and driving characteristic and adjust your driving style to it, it can have a very balance, enjoyable drive with very good pickup (no over-rev). If you like to rev, it does not correspond with CVT FC saving optimal pickup ratio driving style.

UR strut bar will improve handling a lot but it comes with sacrificing comfort especially when going thru rough roads and bumps. I think the stock PE handling and comfort has achieved an optimal balance. Installing strut or similar stuff is going to tilt this balance to better handling but lousier comfort.

I'm also having a City 2006 VTEC. Believe me when I said, in terms of torque and acceleration pickup, it can kill PE anytime, even with a LCP on. I seriously doubt the new City will have fc like PE unless your friend really heavy footed.

After experiencing PE handling......city handling sucked big time, even with a rear cross bar (behind rear seat) and 4 point UR front strut bar.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Sep 13 2013, 01:58 PM

Yeah, cruising is fun due to smooth uninterrupted drive with not much engine noise. That city fuelly is practically 90-95% city drive in Klang. Avg 13km/l.

When I last drive to Damansara daily via NKVE but jam in Klang and PJ, it hit at avg. 14.5km/l to avg 15.5km/h. I can fill an full extra tank every month vs PE fuel filling now.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Sep 13 2013, 02:05 PM

Low range torque wise, idsi a bit stronger BUT when hit mid-range and above, idsi will begin to struggle after 120km/h. That's where vtec excel when the 2nd rocker up moves...VTEC activated. Once activated, speed will goes up so smoothly and effortlessly to 140>160>180 very easily. 88hp vs 110....that is both with minimal torque loss due to CVT tranny and electric steering.

iDSI was discontinued later BECOZ although in closed environment testing, it saves FC better than VTEC but in real life, its actually not much difference in FC savings, a minor bit only. Overall performance especially at mid-high range suffers a lot vs VTEC thus could not justify the miniscule FC savings over VTEC. Overall VTEC performance is much stronger overall be it low range (almost similar), mid range (almost similar too but VTEC pull ahead much easily when approaching higher speed).

That's when idsi consume fc like mad coz not enuf power to climb. VTEC will also makan minyak like mad once activated but the way it zoom up to 180km/h is so effortless its worth it if you're in a hurry.

The meter cluster of VTEC is a bit cartoonish but I like it a lot.....similar to sport meter vs the boring meter of idsi.