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Sabenarian
post May 11 2015, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ May 11 2015, 02:48 PM)
owh my seasonal barb liat to get ancient waste chest.. bugima.. kadala kedekut.. pui.. been doing speed farming below 40 with current setup.. kinda nice.. later get ancient IKBB baru play higher grift.. lol
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<GR40 for noobish bro tongue.gif
waklu
post May 11 2015, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ May 11 2015, 02:48 PM)
owh my seasonal barb liat to get ancient waste chest.. bugima.. kadala kedekut.. pui.. been doing speed farming below 40 with current setup.. kinda nice.. later get ancient IKBB baru play higher grift.. lol
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untungla...
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post May 11 2015, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ May 11 2015, 02:51 PM)
<GR40 for noobish bro tongue.gif
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waa i played below 40 oni solo.. standard so high nowadays? yawn.gif

can enter noobish club ler lol
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post May 11 2015, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ May 11 2015, 02:54 PM)
waa i played below 40 oni solo.. standard so high nowadays?  yawn.gif

can enter noobish club ler lol
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I also play GR35-40 solo for fast blood shards, sometime doing T6 RG kill only for fast trial keys smile.gif still sad ancient IKBB dont want to drop yet..
hOnGhOnG
post May 11 2015, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ May 11 2015, 02:07 PM)
how does oath aps being calculated?

for eg;
> 2.50000 Oath aps

with no ias on either of my BK set, while wwing with full gogok stack+berserker= 2.24 Sheet IAS (as shown on char window)

so to calculate BK 30% IAS bonus

2.24 x 1.30 = 2.912
so that 2.912 is my oath aps?
edit

calculation using online tool. am i filling the numbers correctly bro?

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but here it wrote different pulak...adoiyai pening bro

Whirlwind dust devil ticks per second 6.6666

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bang,

first question: how many attack speed in your paragon now?

The calculation is simple, and I assume you have 10% IAS in paragon:

1.3 BKO
Paragon (10) + WOTB (25) + Dual Wield (15) + GOGOK (15) + bracer (5) + OROTZ (7) = 77%

BK Spinning bonus 30%

so the result is 1.3*1.3*1.77=2.9913 Oath-APS.

WW breakpoint:

aps: 2.50001 | tps: 8.5714
aps: 2.85715 | tps: 10.0000 <----- You fall into this range
aps: 3.33334 | tps: 12.0000

DD breakpoint:

aps: 2.50001 | tps: 5.4545
aps: 2.72728 | tps: 6.0000 <----- You fall into this range
aps: 3.00001 | tps: 6.6667

Zodiac @ Oath while Whirlwinding
> 2.00000 Oath aps, Zodiac triggers every 36 frames = -1.66667 sec per sec
> 2.22222 Oath aps, Zodiac triggers every 32 frames = -1.87500 sec per sec
> 2.50000 Oath aps, Zodiac triggers every 28 frames = -2.14286 sec per sec
> 2.85714 Oath aps, Zodiac triggers every 24 frames = -2.50000 sec per sec <----- here you are
> 3.33333 Oath aps, Zodiac triggers every 20 frames = -3.00000 sec per sec

So it means, when you WW:
1) Your ww hit enemies 10 times per second on average.
2) Your spawn 6 DD per second
3) With your APS, you reduce your skills CD by -2.5 sec per sec.
4) You are very close to next DD breakpoint @ 3.00001
5) You have the choice to lower your paragon IAS or gear IAS for other stats to 2.85714 from 2.9913 because anything in between is wasted IAS.

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EDIT:

I want to elaborate on point 5):

For example: you can drop 7% IAS on your zodiac or use another bracer, you will still have the same thing.

for example, you drop your bracer with better STR/VIT/CC bracer:

1.3*1.3*1.72 = 2.9068 OATH APS

if your drop 7% on orotz, no problem also:

1.3*1.3*1.70 = 2.873 OATH APS

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OR, you get 1% more IAS on steady striker bracer:

1.3*1.3*1.78=3.0082 <---- NEW DD breakpoint

This post has been edited by hOnGhOnG: May 11 2015, 03:38 PM
fe3doe
post May 11 2015, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ May 11 2015, 02:59 PM)
I also play GR35-40 solo for fast blood shards, sometime doing T6 RG kill only for fast trial keys smile.gif still sad ancient IKBB dont want to drop yet..
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tau pon.. nak BS cepat.. skali dapat 200++ 4 kali grift dah full.. tongue.gif
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post May 11 2015, 04:21 PM

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omg bro.. so detailed... owe you a lot of teh tarik liao... dun worry, my funder feedoe will belanja once u come KL rclxms.gif

so basically, to calculate oath aps;

1.3 (BK weapon speed) * 1.3 (BK Set 30% IAS bonus) *1.77 (total additional IAS from paragorn, skill, and eq)= OATH APS


betul kan bro?

so the golden question now, how to achieve the last Oath BP? ias on both sword mandatory?

This post has been edited by waklu: May 11 2015, 04:24 PM
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post May 11 2015, 04:53 PM

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omg bro.. so detailed... owe you a lot of teh tarik liao... dun worry, my funder feedoe will belanja once u come KL  rclxms.gif

so basically, to calculate oath aps;

1.3 (BK weapon speed) * 1.3 (BK Set 30% IAS bonus) *1.77 (total additional IAS from paragorn, skill, and eq)= OATH APS
betul kan bro?

so the golden question now, how to achieve the last Oath BP? ias on both sword mandatory?
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ok. teh tarik ice besar. thumbup.gif

and betul on the equation.

with 7% on both bk, you're looking at 1.391 attack speed weapon.

so

1.391*1.3*(1.77+x) = 3.34

x = 0.077 = 7.7%

you need 7.7% more on gear even with both 7% IAS BK sword to reach the 3.333333 breakpoint.

This post has been edited by hOnGhOnG: May 11 2015, 05:03 PM
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post May 11 2015, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ May 11 2015, 04:21 PM)
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omg bro.. so detailed... owe you a lot of teh tarik liao... dun worry, my funder feedoe will belanja once u come KL  rclxms.gif

so basically, to calculate oath aps;

1.3 (BK weapon speed) * 1.3 (BK Set 30% IAS bonus) *1.77 (total additional IAS from paragorn, skill, and eq)= OATH APS
betul kan bro?

so the golden question now, how to achieve the last Oath BP? ias on both sword mandatory?
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kah2 minggu depan nak naik offshore kat labuan dah.. wuwuwuwuwuwu cry.gif cry.gif
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post May 11 2015, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(hOnGhOnG @ May 11 2015, 04:53 PM)
ok. teh tarik ice besar.  thumbup.gif

and betul on the equation.

with 7% on both bk, you're looking at 1.391 attack speed weapon.

so

1.391*1.3*(1.77+x) = 3.34

x = 0.077 = 7.7%

you need 7.7% more on gear even with both 7% IAS BK sword to reach the 3.333333 breakpoint.
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this is super helpful bro.. thank you so much

and this is why i am not an engineer.. i suck at math hahahahahah

oi feedoe

jgn lupa belanja hong nanti thumbup.gif
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post May 11 2015, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ May 11 2015, 05:09 PM)
kah2 minggu depan nak naik offshore kat labuan dah.. wuwuwuwuwuwu  cry.gif  cry.gif
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balik nanti jalan straight please...

wakakakakakakakakakakak
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post May 11 2015, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ May 11 2015, 05:09 PM)
kah2 minggu depan nak naik offshore kat labuan dah.. wuwuwuwuwuwu  cry.gif  cry.gif
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dah lama x bukak diablo.. bz sgt bulan ni. internet pun xdak. nanti tolong aku farm set ye.. hahaha
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post May 11 2015, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ May 11 2015, 05:16 PM)
balik nanti jalan straight please...

wakakakakakakakakakakak
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post May 11 2015, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ May 11 2015, 05:14 PM)
this is super helpful bro.. thank you so much

and this is why i am not an engineer.. i suck at math hahahahahah

oi feedoe

jgn lupa belanja hong nanti  thumbup.gif
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btw bro, there's still more breakpoints behind.. but very hard to reach.

dd
aps: 3.00001 | tps: 6.6667
aps: 3.33334 | tps: 7.5000
aps: 3.75001 | tps: 8.5714
aps: 4.28572 | tps: 10.0000
aps: 5.00001 | tps: 12.0000
aps: 6.00001 | tps: 15.0000
aps: 7.50001 | tps: 20.0000

ww
aps: 2.85715 | tps: 10.0000
aps: 3.33334 | tps: 12.0000
aps: 4.00001 | tps: 15.0000
aps: 5.00001 | tps: 20.0000
aps: 6.66667 | tps: 30.0000
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post May 11 2015, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ May 11 2015, 05:09 PM)
kah2 minggu depan nak naik offshore kat labuan dah.. wuwuwuwuwuwu  cry.gif  cry.gif
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labuan nice ma.. so much seafood... hehe. I was there.
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post May 11 2015, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(hOnGhOnG @ May 11 2015, 05:32 PM)
btw bro, there's still more breakpoints behind.. but very hard to reach.

dd
aps: 3.00001 | tps: 6.6667
aps: 3.33334 | tps: 7.5000
aps: 3.75001 | tps: 8.5714
aps: 4.28572 | tps: 10.0000
aps: 5.00001 | tps: 12.0000
aps: 6.00001 | tps: 15.0000
aps: 7.50001 | tps: 20.0000

ww
aps: 2.85715 | tps: 10.0000
aps: 3.33334 | tps: 12.0000
aps: 4.00001 | tps: 15.0000
aps: 5.00001 | tps: 20.0000
aps: 6.66667 | tps: 30.0000
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beyond 3.33 aps, i dont see any viable way in pushing IAS higher, unless group buff but that also wont push it high enough hehe



again thanks bro
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post May 12 2015, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ May 11 2015, 05:26 PM)
dah lama x bukak diablo.. bz sgt bulan ni. internet pun xdak. nanti tolong aku farm set ye.. hahaha
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jom...nanti online pm aku.....aku pun dah syiok main barb.....
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post May 12 2015, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(milzer1993 @ May 12 2015, 10:24 AM)
jom...nanti online pm aku.....aku pun dah syiok main barb.....
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ok bro, nanti aku pm

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post May 12 2015, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(milzer1993 @ May 12 2015, 10:24 AM)
jom...nanti online pm aku.....aku pun dah syiok main barb.....
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MARI MARI

QUOTE(amiranna @ May 12 2015, 10:40 AM)
ok bro, nanti aku pm
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lai lai abam.. nak leech pls brows.gif brows.gif
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post May 12 2015, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(waklu @ May 12 2015, 11:24 AM)
MARI MARI
lai lai abam.. nak leech pls  brows.gif  brows.gif
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dah hebat pun still nak leech? tongue.gif

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