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huoshenfeng124
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 Jun 21 2013, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(VT-Ten @ Jun 20 2013, 02:05 PM) hi guys, will need your recommendation as i am feeling like changing both the weapons (EF pinjam from fren punya, and he wants it back). thought of getting an EF with LS and OS, but all very high fear proc. as for the sunkeeper, dps is low, but it has got high CD and STR. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/VT10-6481/hero/27938496recommendations pls.... budget 800m-1b when u look in GAH the stats is not so so nice but when u switch it to RMAH those are indeed nice stats but the price wise drop dead OMG  with ur 800 m u can aredi buy a few pc of decent but not imba weapon  |
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present me
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Jun 21 2013, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(huoshenfeng124 @ Jun 21 2013, 03:00 PM) when u look in GAH the stats is not so so nice but when u switch it to RMAH those are indeed nice stats but the price wise drop dead OMG with ur 800 m u can aredi buy a few pc of decent but not imba weapon +1 imba weapon cost alot when i looking one EF for barb cost 599.00USD just increase me 10k dps only....tat crazy wow.... |
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ilikehandphones
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Jun 21 2013, 03:53 PM
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cold soj is da bomb...running it with ww sure is shiok...do any of u use others like poison etc?
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present me
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Jun 21 2013, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Jun 21 2013, 04:53 PM) cold soj is da bomb...running it with ww sure is shiok...do any of u use others like poison etc? sure cool SOJ COLD go v ww im calling ply ice kacang  u can find SOJ COLD v OP skill more cheaper.... as long hav COLD they ,try b4 HOLY SOJ go for ww like fire cracker .... |
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alphaz
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Jun 21 2013, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(present me @ Jun 21 2013, 06:09 PM) sure cool SOJ COLD go v ww im calling ply ice kacang u can find SOJ COLD v OP skill more cheaper.... as long hav COLD they ,try b4 HOLY SOJ go for ww like fire cracker .... worst is poison soj... green jerebu, can't see when a fallen maniac sneaks next to you |
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ALeUNe
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Jun 21 2013, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(alphaz @ Jun 21 2013, 09:39 PM) worst is poison soj... green jerebu, can't see when a fallen maniac sneaks next to you Poison SOJ is good for WWing. Poisonous damage over time. |
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lace
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Jun 22 2013, 05:11 AM
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wat is soj lols fellow barbie doll player
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lace
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Jun 22 2013, 05:11 AM
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any1 got nice barbie eq wan to sell
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cheer83
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Jun 22 2013, 05:23 AM
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 21 2013, 10:26 PM) Poison SOJ is good for WWing. Poisonous damage over time. yea , the poison effect can give u better proc effect and better fury generation This post has been edited by cheer83: Jun 22 2013, 05:38 AM |
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alphaz
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Jun 22 2013, 06:31 AM
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 21 2013, 10:26 PM) Poison SOJ is good for WWing. Poisonous damage over time. wow is this true? never heard of it until now. interesting info thanks. |
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present me
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Jun 22 2013, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(lace @ Jun 22 2013, 06:11 AM) wat is soj lols fellow barbie doll player SOJ=stone of Jordan |
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Deckard Cain
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Jun 22 2013, 02:52 PM
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Would like to clarify a bit on SoJ part with elemental damage % added :
KaydenFox: Why was elemental damage cut? Burning fire, heal stopping poison, stunning lightning, healing holy… they all would have been great additions to game play.
Jay Wilson: Primarily due players preference of DPS over everything. As we played the game we found everyone just moved to the damage type that did the most damage. If we equalized damage they ignored ones that didn't have CC options. Case in point, we kept the slow on cold and gave it a lower damage budget and its the least used damage type now.
The effect of elemental damage was taken out and only cold effect remained. Meaning +% elemental damage on SoJ calculates as +% elemental damage as added damage to physical black weapon and does not proc any effect. Another from Jay W in regards to poison damage in d3
"poison damage does not work like D2. It does not apply a persistent effect, it’s a type of damage like fire or holy. Poison does not "poison" targets with a DoT effect. It's just another type of direct damage in Diablo 3 –JayWilson"
Meaning it does not proc as how poison damage did in D2, it's just basically an added damage % just like fire or holy. It is only incorporated in skills and not gears with elemental damage.
Travis: Applying innate benefits to each weapon type gets brought up a lot. While we don't currently have plans to make each weapon do something different, it isn't off the table. At the heart of that question, though, is the desire for weapons to be more than just a DPS number and that is something we would like to add, but that will most likely come in the form of elemental damage.
Elemental damage is something we are actively trying to find a good solution for. The stat already exists in the game, but currently it's just six different flavors of the same affix—Cold is the only exception in that it snares targets. One thing we are actively discussing is what kind of effects we could associate with each element and then add it not only to weapons but all damage sources of that type. We haven't finalized anything just yet, but we really want to make this happen.
FYI : Elemental Damage effect was actually incorporated during Beta but was taken out and only cold snare remained
Hope this clarifies it. Correct me if i'm wrong.
This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Jun 22 2013, 03:07 PM
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MOBAJOBG
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Jun 22 2013, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jun 22 2013, 02:52 PM) Would like to clarify a bit on SoJ part with elemental damage % added : KaydenFox: Why was elemental damage cut? Burning fire, heal stopping poison, stunning lightning, healing holy… they all would have been great additions to game play. Jay Wilson: Primarily due players preference of DPS over everything. As we played the game we found everyone just moved to the damage type that did the most damage. If we equalized damage they ignored ones that didn't have CC options. Case in point, we kept the slow on cold and gave it a lower damage budget and its the least used damage type now. The effect of elemental damage was taken out and only cold effect remained. Meaning +% elemental damage on SoJ calculates as +% elemental damage as added damage to physical black weapon and does not proc any effect. Another from Jay W in regards to poison damage in d3 "poison damage does not work like D2. It does not apply a persistent effect, it’s a type of damage like fire or holy. Poison does not "poison" targets with a DoT effect. It's just another type of direct damage in Diablo 3 –JayWilson" Meaning it does not proc as how poison damage did in D2, it's just basically an added damage % just like fire or holy. Hope this clarifies it. ...and also, other item such as Tal Rasha's Allegiance complies with it. |
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TSRicgatebecko
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Jun 22 2013, 03:18 PM
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From all I read and understood, Deckard Cain's right bout how SOJ's elemental dmg works in Diablo III at this stage. SOJ's 5-6% dmg add on to the black dmg of your weapon and holy, arcane, fire, poison and lighting dmg simply do not have additional effects or CC (beside being visually different) on mobs. Only cold dmg have the ability to snare and slow mobs (in-turn kept mobs in Barb's tornado for better fury regeneration as example) hence it's the most sought-after and worth the highest value in the economy right now. Poison dmg SOJs does not do 'damage over time' and WON'T give u better proc effect and better fury generation as per suggested by some members here.
-Hope this clarifies how SOJ's elemental dmg work in-game correctly and fellow barbs won't get confused-
This post has been edited by Ricgatebecko: Jun 22 2013, 03:34 PM
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fe3doe
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Jun 22 2013, 03:55 PM
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Agreed on deckardcain and ricgatebeckto explanation on the +% elemental of the SOJ. The only SOJ that very helpful and does remain its effect was Cold SOJ. BTW just reach P100 just now. ehhehe  
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cheer83
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Jun 22 2013, 04:13 PM
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emm, look like im gonna change my poison soj hota  ,, graz Faedoe  This post has been edited by cheer83: Jun 22 2013, 04:14 PM |
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HaRuaN.X
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Jun 22 2013, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Jun 22 2013, 03:55 PM) Agreed on deckardcain and ricgatebeckto explanation on the +% elemental of the SOJ. The only SOJ that very helpful and does remain its effect was Cold SOJ. BTW just reach P100 just now. ehhehe
Congratz bro..ur build up is getting crazier everyday...250+ unbuff dps + SoJ...damn man.. |
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Deckard Cain
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Jun 22 2013, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Jun 22 2013, 04:24 PM) Congratz bro..ur build up is getting crazier everyday...250+ unbuff dps + SoJ...damn man.. Yeah now some more got new GG belt kekekeke.  |
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fe3doe
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Jun 22 2013, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jun 22 2013, 04:29 PM) Yeah now some more got new GG belt kekekeke. Dam kantoi. Lol |
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