come on.. people in retail market also need to eat la :/ the margin must be good so that they have motivations to sell. these are higher-end laptops that only serve very limited niche market; it's not like those for common consumer market. they have rents to pay; salary and commissions to pay; and all sorts of things to take care of.

however, the retailers do understand the behaviors of consumers (all want premium stuff with low-baller price; well, who don't want that? right?). so they make adjustments to accommodate the market.

retail selling pricing is the dream that manufacturers hope to sell; however, usually dream and reality are just totally different.

so if you still think it's a rip-off, you can always choose other routes to get the stuff. we are all aware of places that can get things cheaper, very much cheaper. it's your call to continue support the local retailers, i.e. pay a bit higher price for local warranty support especially; so as to help them to sustain (you are still allowed to negotiate with them and most of the times you can get good discounts; if not you can still go for other shops), or go for cheaper ones from elsewhere (just note that there are risks in this one; so it's all up to you).

11 point for you buddy ! haha

yes support local industry !

yeah true. It's actually really tiresome work also, explaining the same thing over and over again, while out of 20 maybe only 1 would buy their product. It's a test to their patience. So consider it a give and take. But not all reseller are honest, that's a given actually. ah well that's life

err what does horns post got to do with local industry? just wondering

he say "support local retailer" ...

yup is in all job Description of salesman..

industry and retailers are two different things professor

woah never know retailers are producing now. i though they are just middle man for products from industries ah well. u are more knowledgeable .. lecturer mah~

of course although i was referring to a bigger scale. but ah well

i am lecture not professor.. need PHD for that position but point word is "Local " ok mr.Freelancer...lol

oh my do i need to add my work badge and my Degree on here ? you guys welcome to FAcebook lol

ah i didn't request that from u either. why should i.

hmm i dunno, is lunch time but no lunch... lovely Ramadan i am soo friendly lol

I got a job now... unlike you oh wait.
and ur still wrong with the local word... oh wait why am i even arguing with a dumbass hahahah.

really so child? i must really offended you, i am very sure you don't want meet up to settle this so.. i bet calling name something is something your capable of... good luck sore loser

xCongrat got job now! wow! no more parent funding to buy Alienware notebook !

This post has been edited by Unseen83: Jul 29 2013, 02:24 PM

oh my.. calm down guys :/

i just wanna point out retailers are the group of people who face the reality part of the game, while manufacturers continue to dream on.

all i wanna say is when you think the price in retail is fair enough (usually after negotiations), then go ahead. if it's not fair, then don't go for it.

Everyone here knows who is the sore loser. So i don't need to brag about it.

P.S. Please take some english classes again. I don't know how they make you a lecturer. LOL.
Oh wait. I know how lol.

i agree with you, sorry. just that mansoo got past issues with me lol and ppl who luv their own point view only but he inform he got job now no more freelance lol

Sorry about that. I just usually hate people who don't make any sense at all.

really no brag... wow ! what english class to do with LYN post? gosh simple minded you are