STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V132, Everyone Huat!
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V132, Everyone Huat!
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Jun 12 2013, 10:12 AM
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Check-in.
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Jun 13 2013, 05:52 PM
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I'm licking my wound. Half of my gain from GE13 has been wiped out.
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Jun 23 2013, 12:45 PM
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Anybody knows where I can get the KL stock market index by month? I don't need to index by day, by month will do.. And I hope to get the data as far back as possible... 20, 30 years.
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Jun 23 2013, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(mopster @ Jun 23 2013, 01:09 PM) http://www.asiaone.com/print/News/Haze/Sto...623-431706.html The Malaysian government should slap some heavy penalty, to subsidise for the cost of healthcare and loss of revenue from the tourism.SIME & KLK!!!!!! next AGM i want N95 as door gift.. http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4332&sec=nation And we should boycott products from these two companies. We should hurt them where it hurts most and the place that hurts most for companies is "profits". Everything else, the management will just ignore... and then forgotten. Only when profits are hurt, then management will succumb to pressure and start doing the right thing. Somebody should start compiling a list of products and services offered by these companies and share them on facebook EVERY MONTH to refresh our memory. It's like the chain letter that does not die. If this message is reinforced long enough into the consumer minds, then the value of these brands will diminish. |
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Jun 24 2013, 05:38 PM
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http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...99&if_height=10 QUOTE KUALA LUMPUR: Open burning has been banned in Selangor, Malacca and Johor with immediate effect, said the Department of Environment. What the h3ll is wrong with our government? "Open burning has been banned .... with immediate effect". Why only now? Open burning should be banned ALL YEAR ROUND 24/7. Fark our government.The ban does not apply to religious activities such as cremation, and activities such as grilling, barbecues and cooking. Those found guilty of open burning can be fined not more than RM500,000 or jailed not more than five years or both. A compound fine of RM2000 can also be handed out for every incident. The public can report incidents of open burning to the Fire and Rescue Department (03-8888 0336) and DOE (03-8886 1585). |
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Jun 24 2013, 09:46 PM
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I wonder what Neo's doing now.
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Jun 25 2013, 02:10 PM
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I got margin call
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Jun 25 2013, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 25 2013, 02:13 PM) I get margin call when I breach the approved margin.My approved margin is 60%. Example my share margin is 100k. And total portfolio is 200k. So the margin is 100/200 = 50%. When the stock price goes lower and lower, this means the value of the portfolio becomes lower. Example, 100/170 = 58.8%. So I am still safe. If the price goes even lower, then I'll get margin call. Example, 100/160 = 62.5% |
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Jun 25 2013, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 25 2013, 02:26 PM) The margin limit they gave is usually 2-3x of your cash value right? If kena margin call, so which share they will pick up for force selling at 4pm? No. The share financing or margin financing is not 2-3x of cash value. The financier will give you an approved limit. Example, 100k. You cannot borrow more than 100k. But at the same time, you don't need to use all the 100k. you can use 0, 20k, 45k.... up to you. It's like an overdraft ready for you to use.They have certain rules like earlier example, the margin must not be more than 60% of the portfolio, or collateral. So, if you deposit 10k and buy 50k of stock, this means you borrow 40k margin. Then 40/50 = 80%... above the 60% limit. Financier will ask you to top up the collateral with cash or sell. If you deposit 10k and buy 15k stock, this means you borrow 5k. So 5/15 = 33%. This is below the approved limit so there is no margin call. Is considered the bank loan you money to buy share. This amount will charge you interest. Beware also that not all the stocks is valued at 100%. For example, I buy ABC share and bank only take 80% of it's value as collateral. So if market price for my ABC stock is 50k, bank will only assume it is worth 40k when calculating whether I have breached the margin limit or not. |
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Jun 25 2013, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 25 2013, 03:03 PM) May i ask how does they calculate margin interest? The margin interest is calculated daily rest.Let say i deposit RM100k cash, bought share of RM80k, so the bank charge me RM80k on daily rest interest and providing interest on the RM100k deposit? In this example, you haven't touched the margin yet because you only bought 80k stock. So your account will left with 20k cash. After you have finished using your cash, then if you still want to buy, then you will use the margin. QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jun 25 2013, 03:07 PM) I see, another word, the limit is about extra 50% of your cash. They charge the interest based on daily basis? Yes. Daily rest.QUOTE(dflyz @ Jun 25 2013, 03:34 PM) Taking the example of "deposit 10k and buy 15k stock, this means you borrow 5k. So 5/15 = 33%. ", does this take into account the T+3 days thing, meaning that we need to settle the stock purchase on T+3? How much need to settle, 5K that was owed, or 15K which is the value of stock purchased? I think the interest start charging after T+3, but I cannot confirm this because I have never bought on margin and sold before the T+3.On T+3, you will settle 5k. Then your account will have 0 cash and 15k stock. If you want to buy more, then you will use the margin. If you add more cash, then when you buy, it will minus your cash first before using margin. |
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