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post Dec 20 2006, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Dec 19 2006, 01:54 PM)
Only for dog or applied to all other pets? But hor dog cannot with you so long 1 wor... They age is about average 15 years right? I am sure you will cry like crazy when they leave u. (not to curse your dog, I mean same as human also will pass away sometime).

But I am sure I will also cry like hell if my prince leave me (any reason).
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Well, although i'm emotionous (spelling?) but i hardly cry, not like my gf, tampok tampok sad sad already cry, HAHA! But if my dogs were to pass away one day, i guess i will hide & cry liao. cry.gif
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post Dec 21 2006, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(RedBox @ Dec 20 2006, 04:40 AM)
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8 months later. A little shaggy because too lazy to groom her. tongue.gif

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Is it very high cost to maintain a Saint Bernard? Especially feeding wise, heard that they eat really a lo0Ot!!!

QUOTE(benjamintan86 @ Dec 20 2006, 06:11 PM)
u use the word 'tampok'..kl ppl ll understd?hehe..tats hokkien ler dude..nah,i ll tell her u ejek her here..haha..haiz..i oso cry when my 1st dog dead,ame.cocker spaniel..cry like hell cz i was jz f1 at tat time..lol...then the 2nd dog passed away last yr,rottweiler..tat time i curi curi cry d cz big d mar..haha..

wanna ask ur gf to take a pic of u when u r crying..n post here..to show ur sincerity to ur doggie..lol..jkla.. tongue.gif
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Aiseh, a lot of ppl here understand hockean one la, i face no problem speak Hockean in KL, most oso can speak especially hawkers rite, they can speak hockean more than mandarin. tongue.gif


QUOTE(henggy @ Dec 21 2006, 12:09 AM)
is tere really a indoor cafe allow pets to go in? or just the forum title is the cafe.....
any M.S fans around sban?
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Nope, hehe.. Juz the title. smile.gif

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post Dec 22 2006, 12:14 PM

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Yap, having dogs need lots of commitments, like me & my gf, spend most of the time at home coz we have many dogs, need to be responsible lo, no more shopping, go vacation oso cant go together, sad sad. cry.gif But satisfied, happy & feel worth it coz we got lovely dogs. wub.gif
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post Dec 23 2006, 11:46 AM

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Aiseh, don say lidet la.. I'm sure most ppl here love their dogs very much. tongue.gif
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post Dec 25 2006, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(napnap @ Dec 24 2006, 09:51 PM)
Jus wana ask, anyone here what's the proper way to train dogs? If dogs do mistakes all the times, like, running out of the gate when it's not supposed to, do u guys hit them to teach them a lesson>? pls advice.
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Your dogs will always feel excited when go out for a walk, so always make sure he is on leash, then command him to sit. Until he sit down properly, only u command go & start have fun walking ur dog! If he does not sit, do not bring him out until he sit. When time passes, he will understand that he can only go out through your command.

Of corse at times when u open the door, he might want to rush out, juz say a firm NO! + the above method, he will learn. wink.gif

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post Dec 26 2006, 11:49 AM

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When he bite your hand, say NO! then ignore him. Next thing to do is grab his favourite toy, & play with him, if he chew the toy rather than your hand, praise him a lot. Dogs love to be praised & always want to amaze the owner, so after sometime, he will understand it & do what he is being praised for.

While for dog eating poo, it might be due to the type of food u feeding, what are you feeding your dog?
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post Dec 27 2006, 02:15 PM

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Yap, agree intelligence of dogs are not so depends on the breed they are, even if they do, the major factor is still depends on the patience, consistency & attentions the owner able to provide.

Given the most intelligence dog with an owner without the above factors, then it would be a failure, the dogs wont learn anything anyway.

But given the not so obedient or slow learner dogs, with a pattionate owner, they are able to learn & improve with consistency. wink.gif
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post Dec 28 2006, 06:16 AM

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Yah, but nowadays lots of owners too sayang the doggies already, serve the doggies until they climb up our head, haha! smile.gif
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post Dec 30 2006, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(AhYap @ Dec 28 2006, 12:33 PM)
i owned a dog since many years.
its  my first time visit here,say hello to all owners here
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Welcome AhYap!

What dog do you own?
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post Dec 31 2006, 12:38 AM

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Sometimes, it is their instinct for them to eat grass in order to search for "natural remedy" when they are not feeling well.
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post Jan 2 2007, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(wizardboy @ Dec 31 2006, 02:35 AM)
they have personalities, some dogs when they're puppy, they dont really like to play with humans, they like to play among themselve. but if they're alone, they will come. but u must always let them know who's the master. i do have problem with my gf's doberman when he was a puppy, never listen to commands and extreamly plalyful. about a year later; now, he's matured and totally a loveable dog. and both our maltese, doberman and a cat seems to live in a happy family. seriously, the cat will want to pat the doberman, doberman will make noise calling for the cat, the maltese sleep together with the cat. who says dogs and cats fight?
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Very good to hear that, hope Trump do bond well with you guys. smile.gif
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post Jan 3 2007, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(benjamintan86 @ Jan 2 2007, 11:36 PM)
hey WP,long tim din c u on9 in msn d..wher hav u been..haha...bz with dogs?hehe..
anyway.anyone here know how 2 discover whether the dog is pregnant onot?i jz mate my dog 12days ago..kancheong kancheong~
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I've problem logging into MSN. You cant really see any obvious sign until it is abt 6 weeks pregnant.


QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jan 3 2007, 12:15 AM)
Since this is Dog Lover Kopitiam, I assume if I have anything to say, rant or whatever thats worrying me about my dog, I can post here?

Anyway, I just got myself a dog this morning, it's a West Highland White Terrier aka Westie. I have been looking very long for one and I was previously quoted RM2,300 being the cheapest to RM5,000 being the most expensive. At a point of time, I even went to the extend of asking my cousin bring one back for me from Gold Coast Australia.

My Westie is born on 16/10/2006. Today, he is 2 and 1/2 months old. His name is Casper.

My gf saw a newspaper article on The Star yesterday and so we called up the breeder who happens to live about 2 minutes walk away from my gf's house. Darn small world!! Because its rare and quite hard to find, Westies are priced very expensive. However, because this Westie was born during the flight (import of the Dam), the breeder has some complications with immigrations and etc, thus Casper and his two sisters in this liter was not registered with MKA. Thus, no cert so cheaper at RM1,600. Hell, screw the cert and the money because I want it regardless.

View the dog 11pm last night, bought the dog 11am this morning. Our paths are destined to cross.

So, I picked up Casper after breakfast at 11am. I brought it to the vet for check up and that took us like 1 hour+ because of the jam and queue at the clinic. After Casper was dewormed, we took him to the pet store to get his selection of food, toys and treats. On the way there, he vomitted on me. My gf is a dog-lover for few years, much more experience than I have - told me it's normal due to car ride and also the de-worming medication.

So, after buying the pet store, we went home to my gf's place and then sent the car to wash. Casper played around at the compound happily for about 1 hour and I decided to pick up the car and bring him home to my own place.

Brought him home, my sister was happy! My mom wasnt too happy bout it, worrying I dont have the responsibility to take care of the dog, blah. I'll show her!!

I let Casper run around the house and also the compound. He poo-ed outside and we had to clean it. Then he pee-d like five times in the house but we are fine with that. We learn to accept it as our responsibility since we wanted the dog so badly.

I fed it another time at 6pm at the evening. Blackwood, given to us by the breeder. Casper finished it within minutes and drank plenty of water. So, we put Casper in his cage, went out for dinner and came back. He didnt poo or pee. I was told that pups usually do their business within 1 hour after meal?

Anyway, it was until 11pm that Casper was still awake. I carried the whole cage up to my room with aircond. I put more cloths inside his cage as blankets and etc but he bite it and drag it all over. So, I guess he will never learn to appreciate blanket so I put the cage and Casper in it back downstairs with ceiling fan turned on and also the ridsect mosquitoe repellent plugged into the socket of the wall - odorless.

I hope I dont wake up to a pile of dog shit and pee tomorrow morning. If my mom throw a fit at 7am, I will know what went wrong.... It's tiring, its peeing everywhere, it puked on me even, but its really wonderful.

Just sharing my experience, thanks for reading.
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Yes, you can share anything regarding dogs here.

Reading through your posting, i would suggest you to decide a place for your dog to pee & poo, then start training your dogs to pee or poo there.

Problem is, as you know, dogs will try not to pee or poo at their own cage, BUT it doesnt mean they wont, especially for a puppy, they cant hold their bladder, you will have to bring him out from the cage (if he is caged) every 3 hours.

Another thing about puppy, they are growing teeth hence they will chew on things, so placing additional chew toys in the cage is needed, BUT still, the clothes shouldnt be removed as he needs something to keep him warm.


QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jan 3 2007, 10:53 AM)
Sorry if anyone find it annoying that I keep posting this. This is day-2 at home and I woke up at 7am just to check on Casper. He has poo-ed in the cage, also pee-d.

Dogs usually dont poo and pee at where they sleep but then this is my first time, inexperience. Fed him too much and drank too much before sleep. Starting tonight, every night, I will take him out for a walk, pee first before sleeping.

Wake up at 7am, wash his cage, fed him but he didnt finish. Give him water to drink from the bowl. He played outside with me all morning till 10am, come in the house... Terus pee on the floor, ALAMAK!! Now, 11am and he FINALLY got tired and goes to sleep. Cage door is open but he sleep outside the cage with the floor mat. Poor thing got separated from his family - I feel so bad.
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As mentioned, although dogs will try not to dirty their sleeping place, but for a pup, if they are not able to hold on to thier baldder, they will pee or poo in it. So you have to bring the puppy to pee & poo at the designated area after each meal, and try to avoid feeding too close to time which you will cage up your dog for long.


QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jan 3 2007, 01:08 PM)
Now I brought Casper out for another car ride to the pet store to buy a leash, a collar, a comb and a small packet of treats. Everything went wrong.

On our way back, he puke again on my gf's jeans, the chair and floor mat in the car. I had to wash the floor mat, my gf wasnt too happy but she understands, I have to febreze my leather seat... Man, that was insane.

I tied the collar to Casper and the bell tingles, so Casper will pause and jump backwards to see who is behind him. Another thing is that he hates the leash because block him from freedom. Tell him come, he wont come. Tie him leash, he dont like. How you guys train your puppy to come? Should I still put him on leash?

Bought him a pack of Oiishi treats from BARK brand and he dont even like it one bit. Maybe cause he just puke, will try again later.
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Noticed that you had been bringing your pup everywhere, which is advisable not to until his 3rd jab, or else he is still vulnarable to diseases.

While for leashing, you dont have to be too worry, as he will get used to it soon, put him on leash only when you are bringing him out for fun, then very soon, he will feel more than happy to be leashed.

Although i'm not as experienced as those reputable breeders, but i wish my little knowledge can help a little. wink.gif

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post Jan 4 2007, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jan 3 2007, 07:15 PM)
No cert la, can go meh? Sorry I dont know much about dogs. Where is the event held? If there's some obedience training class, I would like to attend because Casper does not understand what "COME" means even. I have to add he has only been home for two days now. I doubt if he knows Casper is his name.

How do you guys decide in between doing dog biz indoor or outdoor? I live in a double storey terrace. I have a newspaper set up indoor at my living room, next to a unused piano. Everytime he does his biz elsewhere indoor, I will scold him, point to the poo, scold the poo even and then bring him to the newspaper and tell him to poo there, pat his head and tell him good dog. So far it have NOT work.

At the same time, whenever we let him out after he wakes up, we have to go out with him. In the house compound, he will do his biz anywhere outdoor. When I say outdoor here, it means my house compound. Not too big for a double storey.

So, I'm kinda worried here if he will get confused, to poo outdoor or poo on the newspaper. At the same time, should I just keep him indoors, so all his biz is done to the newspaper?

Also, at the piano, he sees his own reflection. Will it affect doing his biz at all? Like somebody watching him. At first, he was so afraid he walked backwards, now its better, he dare to walk there now.

Two things I have to ask... dog odor, how to get rid? Also, his hind legs are always use to scratch somewhere near his testicles or inner thigh, when I look at it, nothing seems wrong - no rashes even though thats what I thought first... I am sending him to his check up and another jab on Saturday. Hope he doesnt puke again.
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No cert can go, mongrels also can, as long as is a dog can liao. smile.gif

But since yours havent fully vaccined, advisable not to especially during the events where many dogs are there. wink.gif

I think the first problem for you to solve is the pee & poo training, well you got it right, you should just decide one place for your pup to do business, or else he will get very confused since he has not been successfully trained yet.

Sad to say that it wont help much by scolding the dog when he pee or poo wrongly before successfully trained him, as he cant understand WHY? Then he will start peeing & pooing when you are not at his sight, which will even slow down the process.

So, it would be better for you to just ignore him when he does his business wrongly.

But how do you train then? To speed up your training, you have to "GRAB CHANCES". This means that grab the timing of him peeing & pooing. Common peeing & pooing time is once he wake up, or once he finish his meals. Bring him to the paper, & wait until he does his business there. Once he did there, praise him a lo0Ot & has i mentioned a lo0O0oOTTT?? & give him a treat.

Do it with much patience & consistency, then gradually you will find that he will even purposely go to the paper to pee & poo in front of u, juz to get your praise & treat.

Once he understands he should do the business there, then only you can scold him when he does at wrong place, then he will know.

QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jan 3 2007, 10:19 PM)
Because I have been with my puppy, Casper for 12 hours straight today, I feel rather tired to keep up with him. It's 8.30pm and he crawled back into his cage and went to sleep. I feel bad for caging him but I cant afford him to poo and pee all over the house in the night.

What time does a 2 - 3 months old puppy usually sleep? Is 8.30pm a little too early? I feel so much guilt and hope that the whole house-breaking process will speed up so he can come sleep with me in the night.
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Regarding sleeping hour, it depends on you but be consistent will do. If you are going to cage him up for long hours, you might have to wake up once or even twice in the middle of the night to allow him to release. But things will improve when he grow bigger & can hold his bladder longer. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 5 2007, 05:10 PM

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As for me, positive training is always good for a start, so that your puppy will understand it first, then only punish when do bad, at least he understands.

In order to let your dog know who is the boss, it is simple. Why not start with commanding your dog to sit before feeding? All pups love to eat, so whenever you want to feed your pup, pick one of the kibble & hold it at the height slightly above his head, & say "SIT."

Do not give him the kibble until he sit, once he sit give it to him. At 1st he might not get you, so you have to be patience, wait until he sit only give him the kibble. Repeat it & be consistent, in few days time i'm sure he will understands "SIT" & knows you are the one who provide him food. He has to listen to you or else no food for him, you are the leader.
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post Jan 6 2007, 08:21 AM

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Regarding age to start training, it will never be too early to start training your puppies, i start training my puppies as soon as 4 weeks old, most of them understands that they are supposed to pee on newspaper by 6 weeks, i thought that it is one of the responsibility of breeders to somehow train the pup BUT the new owner has to continue practising it, but it will east lots of burdens.

Means, start training your pup anytime now, never too young to learn.

Regarding your schedule, i believed that what are you doing is appropriate. When your pup is out of supervision, best is crate him. But do remember to spend more time with him during weekends or free time.

Until he is fully trained not to simply chew on things, pee & poo at appropriate places, you will feel relieve & happy to let him out all day round.

If you feel bad caging the dog (i'm not sure how big is the cage), you can buy those playpens, & put newspaper in a corner inside the playpens.
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post Jan 8 2007, 12:56 AM

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As for me, during training, i will cage the dog when i'm out or unable to supervise, i'm at home most of the time though. Once completed training, they are allowed to roam freely.

There are many methods thought here, which are very good, choose some which suits you best & be consistent, i'm sure you will see the improvement gradually.
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jan 8 2007, 09:27 AM)
I think I will apply your method. Caged unless I am around. But where did you find the patience to clean up after him? Especially if you carry him to the newspaper, his pee still splurting out. Then when you wipe, he comes to kaypoh and step all over. Before you can catch him to wash his paws, he ran all over the house, then you have to mop the entire place. It's giving me a heart-attack.
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Well knowingly we will be able to enjoy the fruits after all our patience & love, i'm very much motivated. Like it or not we have to go through this stage. smile.gif
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post Jan 9 2007, 03:03 PM

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Blackwood is "heaty"?

Well i believe if we are feeding kibbles, it is a totally dry food, so water must be always available.

So far, i fed all my dogs Blackwood & i'm very satisfied.

Anyway, i think as long as your dog doing well with one brand, juz stick to it. wink.gif
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post Jan 10 2007, 11:59 PM

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I felt that introducing the pup to the leash with "restriction of movement" will never make the pup like the leash, instead it will hate the leash.

If you do want to make the pup used to the leash, use it on happy events. Such as out for a jog, or running around in the house will do. For a start, just leash it on but dont pull it, goes around as your pup wish, then start guiding the pup gradually, then your pup will jump here & there happily once seeing the leash.

I'm against the way of leashing the pup til it pee or poo though. Such method definitely is not encouraging for a pup, it might discourage the pup to go near the spot instead.

So far all my dogs run freely at home, & pees & poos on newspaper. They are trained fairly fast, juz observe the right time they pee & poo, & accompany the dog til they does the business at the right spot, & praise them a lot.

Juz minutes ago, when my gf was reading newspaper on the bed, my Angel went on top of it & pee, showing off to my gf! They LOVE praises. Introducing them in encouraging ways is most effective & fast.

The more time & effort u spend, the faster it is. Normally when i bring back a pup, i will do it during weekends, i will spend almost all the hours with the pup for 3 days, after that, im fine & they behave well for years. It is worth it. Dont punish, PRAISE!!!

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Do you guys aware of besides Frontline, there is another brand coming up? Cant remember what brand, but it is made in Singapore, cheaper, & according to the pet shop owner i visited, they claimed it is more effective.

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