Ohh... Setapak Garden... I'm at Taman Ibu Kota, near by only.

Well, you know where is Sakura Crystal? It's around that side.... The petshop is near a bank.... I can't remember what bank but next to it is a mamak restaurant and a mechanic shop.... The name of the shop is Pet Epicure... You can call them03-41070125 for better directions.

If your dog got a sensitive liver, CN or Orijen would be better but you may need to check with a vet to see if a high protein diet is ok or not since Orijen is 70% protein.

Ohh... Setapak Pet Shop.... is it the one next to pizza hut?

Avoderm is also a good brand... get a sample first lah coz my dog tried the sample and didn't like the taste hahaha.

Pet epicure carries Evolve, Addiction, erm.... only a few brands.... the petshop promotes raw feeding also, they produce their own raw food which is very good but I don't have space in the freezer so stopped feeding my dog raw food from that place.

Oh, get a sample pack to try hahaha....

Collar, should get a good strong nylon collar to hand the licence and tag.... but if go walking, best is harness/body halter... but harness/halter should not be worn 24/7 coz uncomfortable.

A head halter is better at training... so far my dad used that on my bigger dogs. My ckcs I use harness. We only have collars on our outdoor dogs since DBKL can see them with license.

Body halter is bad for training.... some dogs won't even stop pulling.... so the best is the head halter.

Is it start with R? I forgot the name... but I think starts with R...

This is why I never buy stuff through banking and postage hahaha.... unless it is a person that I know personally lah.... LYN got some cheaters so we must be aware. COD is the best of course.

Tried that before on my dog. Not bad I would say. I think it contains pork too hahaha... can't remember.

Oh, I have heard this so many times when I carry some small dogs.... i asked them "Wow, your dog is extremely light!!! "
Then they will beam a smile and said
"Oh, my dog only gets 2 tablespoon of food a day. I want her/him to be small so I can carry around easily, don't want a fat dog. 2 tablespoon controls his/her size."

Wow, felt like smacking those people....

Sadly, it is true. Some breeders, they will sell dogs and to get a high price for the puppies, they will say "teacup" or "super mini" but in fact they will just be normal size dogs later according to the breed standards.... but because some breeders do not want their buyers to know, they will come up with the 2 tablespoon feeding technique to "proof" that the dog is infact those teacup and super mini.

Anyway, "teacup and "mini" versions are the breeding of dwarfs.... some of these dwarfs will suffer early deaths from heart ailments and liver failure.... A vet gave this info.... so to believe a breeder or a vet?

Imagine, a shih tzu eating only 1 tablespoon of food in the morning and 1 tablespoon at night? that is soooo little. Pity the dog. Some would say 2 teaspoons... now that is worst.

There is no such thing as toy shih tzu.

Also, you are gonna kill your dog when it reaches senior by feeding kraft singles cheese for cheese that is made for human consumption, especially cheddar cheese is VERY salty. This can cause your dog to develop early heart disease. If you want to feed cheese, feed only cottage cheese or cheese that is low in sodium.

Not all foods are ok for dogs. Never feed processed human food or food that has been cooked with seasonings. Just give natural foods.

Shih tzus are never mini or toy.... just small. Their weight goes from 4kg to 8kg.... that is the standard, anything smaller than that is called a Dwarf, which can have a shorter lifespan and get more sickness and health problems at early ages.

Seems you did not read properly on shih tzus.

http://www.shihtzu.org/Info/imperial.asp

That website gives you truth about mini size shih tzus....

If the puppy is weak and cannot walk properly, you better let the vet do some joint test and xray.... who knows, it could be weak bones which may lead to complicated health problems later.

Chihuahua sized and 1 year? My goodness, that is too small....

Pitiful.... you see ah, many people like small sized dogs. True, I also like but some breeders are taking advantage of it. What they do is breed 2 runts of litters to gain smaller size puppies which in turn will be small throughout the life. MKA is nothing now.... coz every breeder can have MKA but I would say only show breeders would breed with knowledge.... many home breeders do not.

Yes, that mini MS will have a shorter lifespan. This is what a vet told my friend coz her dog is a mixed breed but a dwarf coz runt in the litter....

To take care of a dwarf dog, it should not have 2 meals a day but 4 meals. Each meal must be small and of high quality food. Dwarf dogs would need more visits to the vet to keep track of health. Below are some quotes on dwarf dogs.

http://www.shawlein.com/The_Standard/13_Br...reed_Types.html

http://www.dogstuff.info/dwarfism_part_three_lanting.html

Well... the above is just a little information on "miniature" size from the standard size lah. It can occur in any dog breeds.

The vet already advised my friend to be extremely careful with his dog for the dog would for sure have health problems.

The breeder should have never bred the father. Coz the small size can be a genetic trait.... puppies born to smaller than usual breed standards are normally weaker than normal puppies. There is a chance of them not even living long enough to reach their senior age....

Really, you had better check with a vet about the legs. This is why we also advice, never get a puppy coz it is cute, look for overall the health, structure, temperament and quality first before deciding on a puppy.

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Added on April 29, 2007, 9:55 pmNot only for dogs, it is affects horses. Read:

http://www.mini-horse.org/dwarf_dog_horse.html

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Apr 29 2007, 09:55 PM

The parents of the dogs died at such a young age? Super crazy!!!! Man, if I know the breeder, I will smack his head off for producing such small dogs....

Anyway, if we do get these "dwarf" dogs.... we must take really good care loh.... no choice also. We normally take out dogs once or twice a year for check up, smaller dogs may need it 3 times a year.... xrays should be done too.

These days the trend is to put dogs in handbags... so the smaller the dog, the more people would want to buy and pay extreme money for it. Too bad got those money minded breeders..... Pity that MS... poor dog.

This is why we got other small breeds to carry around like Chihuahua, Yorkshire.... but people don't care liao. They want smaller.... I would recommend them to get rats if want so small hahhah... But imagine if a MS was like 1kg... or 2kg... my gawd, rabbit is bigger....

It would be good to educate people on the "mini" and "toy" size... stick to the breed standards.... Breeds under the toy group are certainly small little dogs that are less than 8kg.... Any dog that comes with "Mini" in their standard name is already a small version, to have it smaller will spoil the health only.

4 inches? Aiyoh, better she go get a stuffed toy hahha...

Anyway, I like your chihuahua and shih tzu....at your shop. Reminds me of my old shih tzu but he was black and white....

Cute.... her eyes are like my ckcs's eyes LOL....

Wanted to carry her that day but then didn't lah coz I'm a stranger to her. She is very cute.

My dog has good appetite but she will only eat if I sit next to her.... she won't eat alone... spoilt brat hahha... but i do have to feed her CN only coz of her shedding...

Hahah... my dog see Addiction, she turn her nose away... so I don't think I can feed Addiction also hahaha. I'm thinking of supplementing with some Omega oils for my dog.... must find a syringe hahah.

Yes, we should not simply pet or carry dogs.... i also warn people and tell people how to treat my dogs first... so far ok. It is important for people to know how to react to a strange dog first. Very scary if aggressive dogs. Like what you said lah, if get bitten, I think they will blame the dog first than the people.

Well, I have used the Whitening shampoo by Biogroom.... so far it is good and also tearless so it's safe if it gets into the eyes. think RM36 for 1 bottle.... mix 1 part shampoo with 16 parts water so it's economical lah. I don't use conditioner on my dog coz fur not so long.

Human shampoo is not meant for fur but for hair.... fur and hair different so human shampoo is harsh on fur. Better stick to dog shampoo.

You can stuff cotton wool inside the ears so less water will go in since the cotton would soak the water up. It also cleans the ears at the same time.

Erm, water should not go into the nose... it can be on the nose but not into the nose coz it is painful... like when we go swimming and sometimes water gets into our nose, it feels like that. I bath my dog using warm water.... cold water or warm water is ok... if you are scared that the water enters the nose, you can place your hand over the nose and use the shower head to rinse off the shampoo on the head. At the end, I normally use my fingers dipped in water to wash the eye area....

Well, you can always try... I shower my dog from head to tail.... of course she hates it when I shower the head but it gets rid of the soap suds better. My dog's ears are drooping ears so water won't enter so easily. I think you should try the cotton ball thing hahah.... I stuffed my dog's ears with cotton balls before.... then later the cotton came out dirty with ear wax but the ears became clean.

Can always source other shampoo.... So far Biogroom, Espree and The Professional Groomer's Edge shampoo.... well, Biogroom whitening shampoo I use on my dog's head coz it is tearless and The Professional Groomer's Edge Pearl Light shampoo I use on my dog's body..... so far quite good since I only need to dilute the shampoo.... each bottle is the normal standard size shampoo bottle, about RM31 to Rm36 only. I have been using it for 1 years and still haven't finish hahahah....

Normally if the shampoo is tearless, it will state their tearless for eyes.... Many dog shampoos are not safe when it goes into the eyes. I think Hartz is not tearless.

No... they are not toy dog group. Shih tzus are under Utility group in general but in some countries, they are in toy group during dog shows.

by AKC standards, the shih tzu is under Utility. This is a large group. Read more:
http://www.kennels.co.uk/Utility/Utility.html

Mistake, not AKC... didn't do research properly. Shih tzu is Utility under KC(UK). Didn't read properly.

According to Dog, a Guide to Pedigree breeds by William Moores and Paddy Cutts(dog breed book). Many books now seperate the breeds according to size like large, medium and small.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_group

I did more research, shih tzus, most books follow the The Kennel Club UK on shih tzus being utility but a better discription of which group they belong is here:

http://www.canadasguidetodogs.com/shihtzu.htm

* Canadian Kennel Club (CKC) - Non-Sporting Dogs

* American Kennel Club (AKC) - Toy Group

* United Kennel Club (UKC) - Companion Breeds

* The Kennel Club [U.K.] (KC) - Utility

* Fédération Cynologique Internationale (FCI) * - No. 208

The group for shih tzus during shows really depends on the country on which standards they follow.

But still... We should not call Shih tzus as Toy shih tzu... it is not correct for it is not the standard name or size. Mini shih tzu, imperial shih tzu, toy shih tzu, all is more for making more people interested to buy the dogs.

MKA follows FCI - http://www.mka.org.my/breed_toy.htm
MKA Group 7 (FCI Group 9): Toy and Companion

It is working fine for me. I do not have an account or am a member of MKA.... it is just a link. I clicked it again and it is fine.