QUOTE(Lotus1109 @ Jul 8 2013, 12:08 AM)
quite a great deal, but too bad my real aim is coffee set

I just checked that it was still with available stock last friday, ended up its sold out on the weekend, that's pretty fast.
QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jul 8 2013, 12:48 AM)
Vintage means they are made earlier than 1993-1994
Just need one set of wave soldering than two.
Save cost.
Lube means they feel smoother than original.
Your mileage may vary. Some people cannot tell the difference. Some people thinks that it is wonderful.
Ok, so the only way to get the Vintage black is harvesting from old mkb?
To me the stock red switches are already very smooth, unless i still do not require extra smoothness due to this is my first attempt on red switches. But its good to know for future option.
QUOTE(Alpha_Tay @ Jul 8 2013, 01:12 AM)
sc2 is new game which require lesser apm, i think they just update to today standard than doing a needed upgrade, and for promo sponsor.
sc1 they dont need even mech kb or nkro.
yea i know mech kb is better, but it is not a requirements, even to their professional standard.
Agreed, any games are fine with normal keyboard, mechanical keyboard will nv be the requirement.
QUOTE(kyrmian @ Jul 8 2013, 01:40 AM)
In most games, it's not needed. It's a small upgrade to your gaming, but not noticeable. Mostly pro gamers uses Mech keyboards is because of sponsorship.
Mouse on the other hand, is more important.
Some mouse are also over-rated with features, its all about marketing

well it works.
QUOTE(Stinky Fart @ Jul 8 2013, 03:40 AM)
Oh man, I've been reading so much from this thread didn't realize its already 3a.m.
I actually came here from GeekHack cause I wanted to see if anyone owns a KBT Race and where I can find one locally. Found out it's EOL from a few pages back

I've actually visited this page a few times when I see it at the top of "Hardware" but didn't understand anything you guys were saying lol.
Anyway, I've done a lot of reading since and have considered so many different keyboards to buy only to change my mind every few hours of reading...
I'm afraid if I keep reading and stall buying one I would end up with a KMAC2. Something that has happened to me at "Audiophiles".
Initially, I wanted to get something with backlights but had since considered the better PBT keycaps. Also, I could not find a TKL with backlights that I can obtain locally.
I've narrowed down my choices and now I'm stuck between getting a brand new KBT Oni or kyrmian's Filco Camo. I need professional opinions on which of these I should opt for. Thanks in advance

I would suggest you to take up the Filco Camouflage, it is almost impossible to get one locally now, unless you are purchasing from overseas or taobao which will cost you about RM500-RM600. Direct jump ship to KMAC 2 ? Mayb u will miss out alot of stuffs throughout the journey

but the destination will be custom mkb i guess