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 Asset Allocation Investing using US ETF, Basic approach to asset Allocation ETF

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TSdreamer101
post Aug 2 2014, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 2 2014, 01:20 AM)
Got to confirm with you guys before i put fake address to play my money.

You mean i can simply put an address there eg. an address belongs to a classmate in Singapore and then i do my trading online from Malaysia? I thought they can detect where my location is from my computer here.

Would it jeopardize my money using a false address and got caught later on?
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guy3288,

Why use address from Singapore?? Can you use it to open A/C?? Why not use an address from USA??

<< i do my trading online from Malaysia? I thought they can detect where my location is from my computer here.>>

Why would they want to prevent that?? TDAM's American customer could be traveling to Malaysia and do trading.

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post Aug 2 2014, 06:41 AM

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Folks,

1) Please note that just because you open an A/C using US address, it does not mean you cannot change your address later to somewhere else in the world.

2) Almost statement can be sent electronically. For most of my A/C, I do not receive anything in the mail anyhow.

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post Aug 2 2014, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Hapeng @ Aug 2 2014, 06:57 PM)
better safe than sorry
for now i'll stick to HLB and will be calling them on monday for the VOO shares.
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Hapeng,

In investing, do whatever that you feel comfortable in.

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post Aug 2 2014, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Aug 2 2014, 08:08 PM)
Come on learn to think more deeper.

What if after u use the fake address then the brokerage need to verify your identity such as social security number? ID number? IC number?

Are you gonna fake that using Photoshop?
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MNet,

<< What if after u use the fake address then the brokerage need to verify your identity such as social security number? ID number? IC number?>>

1) Why a person need to use FAKE address??

2) Did you ever try to open an A/C to begin with?? If NO, why do you THINK that they verify those things to begin with?? Or, they ask for those information to begin with??

<<Come on learn to think more deeper.>>

3) In all other countries, you can download the form or check online. They tell you PRECISELY what you need to open an A/C.

4) Ditto in all other countries, they tell you PRECISELY what information that they will verify and penalty in falsifying anything.

5) If you are INTERESTED, do your RESEARCH.

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post Aug 24 2014, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Aug 23 2014, 10:38 PM)
Why these "since inception" return is different?

Supposingly the iShares U.S. Healthcare Providers ETF will yield more higher % compare to Vanguard FTSE All-World ex-US Small-Cap ETF ?

https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snap...ntExt=INT#tab=1
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http://www.ishares.com/us/products/239510/...e-providers-etf
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MNet,

<<Why these "since inception" return is different?>>

1) Because those ETF may be started long ago... "since inception" means since the creation of this ETF..

<< Supposingly the iShares U.S. Healthcare Providers ETF will yield more higher % compare to Vanguard FTSE All-World ex-US Small-Cap ETF ?>>

2) <<The performance data shown represent past performance, which is not a guarantee of future results.>>

That is past performance. It is not an indication of the future. If you KNOW which ETF will do THE BEST in future, you will be RICH.

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post Aug 30 2014, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(soven @ Aug 30 2014, 12:48 PM)
Dreamer, any thoughts on Singapore STI ETF? It helps reduce local exposure and gives better regional/foreign exposure based on Singapore blue chip companies.
http://www.nikkoam.com.sg/etf/sti

With a standard chartered trading account, there are no minimum commission and brokerage fee of 0.2%.
It is more accessible with required investment amount of only SGD300~ per lot..
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soven,

I do not know enough to advice you.

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post Aug 31 2014, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Aug 30 2014, 11:46 PM)
When I sell my ETF, who will purchase my ETF? ETF provider or buyer from open market?
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jutamind,

ETF behave exactly like a stock. Hence, it should be buyer from open market.

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post Aug 31 2014, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(SalvationArmy @ Aug 31 2014, 07:27 PM)
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SalvationArmy,

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/efficientfrontier.asp

http://www.etf.com/sections/index-investor...-portfolio.html

1) Google "Efficient Frontier" and Google "Larry Portfolio".

2) 100% Stock give you higher EXPECTED RETURN but EXPECTATION does not have to meet reality.

3) Normally recommendation is between 70/30 to 30/70 ratio.

4) Let me give you a very simplified version of the reason.

For example, if you do 100% stock, if the stock market crashes, you have NO MONEY to buy cheap stock. If you are are 70/30, you can sell bond to buy stock. Hence, you "SELL HIGH and BUY LOW". And, vice versa. If you look at the efficient frontier curve, it does not make sense to go either 100% bond or 100% stock. Historically, the difference is very small comparing those 100% portfolio versus 70/30 or 30/70. But, on the average, for the range of 70/30 to 30/70, you are less likely to have any very bad year.

5) Larry's rule say that you should EXPECT lose up to 50% of your stock allocation at any point of time.

<<As you can probably guess, I have not invested in an index fund yet but rather in certain individual UK small caps. smile.gif>>

6) I may GAMBLE to a few thousand on those kind of stock. But, I only do that for stock that can return between 1,000% to 3,000%. Aka, 10X to 30X. Or else, why bother?? So, are you targeting for that kind of return?

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post Sep 1 2014, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(SalvationArmy @ Sep 1 2014, 12:38 AM)
Point 4 is quite insightful.

I suppose it is worth quite a lot being able to sell down your holdings of bonds to fund purchases in equities during a stock market crash. However, this can be achieved also by selling down your equities and keeping significant amount in cash as the market goes up to unrealistic levels.

Easier said than done I suppose (it is unclear how do we identify market peak) whereas the stock-bond allocation method will make it automatic!
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SalvationArmy,

Why keep cash?? If stock went up, bond will be on sale. Hence, you sell stock (High) and buy Bond (low). It happened in reverse too, when stock goes down.

The easiest way is to buy a balanced fund. In that case, it always do that for you automatically. Depending on where you are, you might be able to invest on one of those Vanguard balance fund.

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post Sep 1 2014, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(SalvationArmy @ Sep 1 2014, 06:42 PM)
The other thing is, at lower levels of capital, you probably save more on transaction costs (compared against forgone interest income from bonds) when keeping equities+cash as opposed to equities+bonds.
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SalvationArmy,

That is not true if you use BND.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=BND+Profile

The annual maintenance fee is 0.08%.

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post Sep 1 2014, 09:58 PM

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http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=VBINX&t=my...n&z=l&q=l&c=VTI

Folks,

Look at the graph and compare VTI (100% US stock) versus VBINX (60% US stock / 40% US bond)

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QUOTE(MNet @ Sep 2 2014, 07:35 PM)
vangurard bond peformance not up to par

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pm?s=BND+Performance
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MNet,

Please note that as opposed to an index (which has no expense since it is not real fund), a bond index fund has expense. And, given that Vanguard bond index fund has the lowest expense, it is probably close to the best that you can do. See below for comparison.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pm?s=AGG+Performance

An index fund cannot beat the index. This is COMMON SENSE. If it does, it is probably not a REAL INDEX FUND.

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post Sep 4 2014, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Sep 4 2014, 08:56 AM)
Nice chart. So if we suspect bear is near we convert from VTI to VBINX?
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kaiserwulf,

No. You do not have to. If you BELIEVE in asset allocation, you do not have to time the market. By keeping with a fixed ratio, for example (60/40), you will SELL HIGH and BUY LOW all the time.

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QUOTE(MNet @ Sep 30 2014, 09:10 AM)
Vanguard Total World Stock ETF (VT) is down.

almost erase this YTD gain
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MNet,

And, why does that matter to me??

In my annual rebalancing, I had sold VTI and buy BND. I had "SELL HIGH and BUY LOW".

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QUOTE(MNet @ Oct 1 2014, 08:33 AM)
how u know when is high?
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MNet,

Let me give you the SIMPLE VERSION.

If a person do ASSET ALLOCATION, for example, 60/40 = 60% stock and 40% bond. If the stock went up and exceed the ratio aka 65/35, you sell 5% of your asset in stock and buy bond to bring down to 60/40. And, vice versa. This is THE MAGIC. You do not have to watch the market. The FIXED RATIO will tell you. Pension fund like EPF/KWSP and insurance companies invest this way.

A person either do ANNUAL re-balancing or re-balanced when the investment is off the ratio too much.

I had DETAILED EXPLANATION of either approaches on THIS THREAD.

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post Nov 28 2014, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Nov 27 2014, 10:45 PM)
be cautious about ETFs.. your entry point is so important.

Timing when is a good price to buy into ETFs can ease your way into the market.
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the99percent1,

If you are investing using Asset Allocation method, entry point does not matter. Now, if you DO NOT UNDERSTAND what I am saying, it means that you have not read this thread from the beginning.

Asset Allocation method ensure that a person always "Buy Low and Sell High". Timing the market is not needed.

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QUOTE(the99percent1 @ Nov 28 2014, 12:01 PM)
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You enter the stock market at its HIGHEST. Lets say your bond level starts to drops and so u top up. But then quickly, your stock position also starts to drop..

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the99percent1,

I DO NO THINK that you get IT.

Let's say that the ratio is 50/50 and you are putting $1,000 into your asset allocation every month. How could ANYTHING that you said will happen?? Show us...

<Asset location does not make sense. At what point do you adjust your ratios? One day? a week? a month? >>

If you READ the whole thread, you will know that it is either

A) Once a year

or

B) Based on the 5/25 re-balancing rule.

<< A better way of doing this is to time your ETF investment at a good entry point and leave it 100% as Stock.. When markets begin to shift, then switch some to Bonds or buy up cheaper ETFS..>>

This is BASED a BIG ASSUMPTION. A person know when to TIME the MARKET. 99+% of the people DO NOT KNOW. MAJORITY of the fund managers DO NOT KNOW either.

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QUOTE(inchvbeam @ Dec 1 2014, 08:36 PM)
may  i know wad does dreamer101 thinks abt investment in bond funds?
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inchvbeam,

I use BND / VBTLX / AGG as part of Asset Allocation.

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 1 2014, 11:13 PM)
US red down today
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MNet,

And, WHY does that matters??

If STOCK and / or BOND do not go down in price, how do investor "BUY LOW SELL HIGH"?? Aka, make money??

By the way, as per my asset allocation model, I had been buying bond for the last few months.

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QUOTE(dylanw @ Dec 23 2014, 12:56 AM)
Glad to see another Boglehead in here. I'm surprised people don't take this approach. The costs of the MF/UT's in Malaysia are ridiculous. 5.75% front-load fees? 1.5 - 2% expense ratios? LOL f*** that shit! Vanguard/Fidelity/Schwab all the way!

Personally, I felt that if I were in the situation of many working Malaysians where they are restricted to the high cost UT's from crap places like Public Mutual or OSK, I'd rather take 3 months to read up intensely and buy individual stocks to build my own index fund.
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dylanw,

They just need to buy ETF. It is equivalent to index fund. I had explained on this thread.

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