QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 1 2014, 04:46 PM)
Still small investor.. only can buy malaysian bond fund.. ><Asset Allocation Investing using US ETF, Basic approach to asset Allocation ETF
Asset Allocation Investing using US ETF, Basic approach to asset Allocation ETF
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Sep 1 2014, 04:57 PM
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Sep 1 2014, 06:28 PM
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Sep 1 2014, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 1 2014, 04:37 PM) The other thing is, at lower levels of capital, you probably save more on transaction costs (compared against forgone interest income from bonds) when keeping equities+cash as opposed to equities+bonds. |
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Sep 1 2014, 08:15 PM
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Sep 1 2014, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 1 2014, 04:41 PM) FSM CMF now 3.2, how many bonds are going to achieve that for the same amount of risk (which is almost absolutely no risk in the case of CMF lol If bond is paying below 4%, that is too low. Even FD can do better.PBB bank bond is paying 7.5%. OSK Medium term notes bond 7.25%pa . CMF at only 3.2% is only good for parking temporary money. |
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Sep 1 2014, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(SalvationArmy @ Sep 1 2014, 06:42 PM) The other thing is, at lower levels of capital, you probably save more on transaction costs (compared against forgone interest income from bonds) when keeping equities+cash as opposed to equities+bonds. SalvationArmy,That is not true if you use BND. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=BND+Profile The annual maintenance fee is 0.08%. Dreamer |
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Sep 1 2014, 09:58 PM
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http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=VBINX&t=my...n&z=l&q=l&c=VTI
Folks, Look at the graph and compare VTI (100% US stock) versus VBINX (60% US stock / 40% US bond) Dreamer |
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Sep 2 2014, 03:59 AM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 1 2014, 09:44 PM) If bond is paying below 4%, that is too low. Even FD can do better. What do you mean by 'pbb bank bond' ? is that even for retail investors?PBB bank bond is paying 7.5%. OSK Medium term notes bond 7.25%pa . CMF at only 3.2% is only good for parking temporary money. This post has been edited by wodenus: Sep 2 2014, 04:03 AM |
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Sep 2 2014, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 1 2014, 08:15 PM) Sorry, maybe I did not understand fully. I was advised not to because of taxation regulations. Not sure if he meant not allowed. I should check again next chance. Anyway foreigners (non-SG) should get details before transferring any funds. |
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Sep 2 2014, 07:35 PM
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Sep 2 2014, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(MNet @ Sep 2 2014, 07:35 PM) MNet,Please note that as opposed to an index (which has no expense since it is not real fund), a bond index fund has expense. And, given that Vanguard bond index fund has the lowest expense, it is probably close to the best that you can do. See below for comparison. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pm?s=AGG+Performance An index fund cannot beat the index. This is COMMON SENSE. If it does, it is probably not a REAL INDEX FUND. Dreamer This post has been edited by dreamer101: Sep 2 2014, 07:55 PM |
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Sep 3 2014, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jun 10 2013, 09:22 PM) Folks, strongly agree ... especially the ratio part ... well saidIn an asset portfolio, most of the return are determined by the stock versus bond ratio. So, for the first step of asset allocation is to determine the stock versus bond ratio. This has to be decided by each individual. The followings are some of the guideline A) The stock/bond ratio should be between 80/20 to 20/80. If you go above and below that ratio, you are talking too much or too little risk and do not get the optimal return. B) Risk versus Return tradeoff. 1) If you take on higher percentage of stock allocation, your portfolio will be more volatile. You need to take the "50% test". Historically, stock can drop 50% of its value at any point of time. Can you stop yourself from selling when that happen?? 2) Do you NEED to take risk?? If you have ENOUGH money, you do not need to take on higher percentage of stock allocation. C) Age in bond rule -> A simple rule is to take you age and use that as your bond ratio. D) All else fail, do a 60/40 asset allocation. Those are the standard ratio use by insurance company for their investment. E) When in doubt, lower the stock ratio. The strategy only work if you can yourself from selling in a market crash. If you cannot sleep at night with your aset allocation, reduce you stock exposure... F) Emergency fund is not part of your asset allocation. You need at least 3 to 6 months of emergency fund. You may keep longer if you feel your income is unstable. Dreamer |
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Sep 4 2014, 12:42 AM
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Sep 4 2014, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 1 2014, 09:58 PM) http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=VBINX&t=my...n&z=l&q=l&c=VTI Nice chart. So if we suspect bear is near we convert from VTI to VBINX?Folks, Look at the graph and compare VTI (100% US stock) versus VBINX (60% US stock / 40% US bond) Dreamer |
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Sep 4 2014, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Sep 4 2014, 08:56 AM) kaiserwulf,No. You do not have to. If you BELIEVE in asset allocation, you do not have to time the market. By keeping with a fixed ratio, for example (60/40), you will SELL HIGH and BUY LOW all the time. Dreamer |
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Sep 4 2014, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Sep 4 2014, 08:56 AM) A good strategy to minimize risks (which is his goal) but unless you have cheap, reliable access to the US markets, have to account for commissions as well.This post has been edited by wodenus: Sep 4 2014, 12:39 PM |
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Sep 4 2014, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 4 2014, 12:42 AM) Ok now I'm confused, don't you have to tender for those? and how many million do you need for it? |
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Sep 4 2014, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 4 2014, 12:47 PM) Ok now I'm confused, don't you have to tender for those? and how many million do you need for it? cant find the link, can only give you thsi,PBB002 - Non Innovative Tier 1 Stappled Capital Securities coupon. 7.5% HwangDBS Structured Income Fund IV =6% pa OSK Medium Term Notes Stock Code UN100016, 7.25% CIMB001 - Innovative Tier 1 Capital Securities 6.7% |
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Sep 30 2014, 09:10 AM
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Vanguard Total World Stock ETF (VT) is down.
almost erase this YTD gain |
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Sep 30 2014, 10:34 PM
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