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 Asset Allocation Investing using US ETF, Basic approach to asset Allocation ETF

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post Sep 1 2014, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 1 2014, 04:46 PM)
Depends.. in good years maybe 6%, in bad years, 1.8% or so tongue.gif
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Still small investor.. only can buy malaysian bond fund.. ><
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post Sep 1 2014, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(soven @ Aug 30 2014, 12:48 PM)
Dreamer, any thoughts on Singapore STI ETF?
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I asked. There may be taxation restrictions for foreigners, meaning, may be not allowed.
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post Sep 1 2014, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 1 2014, 04:37 PM)
Over here ROI from cash > ROI from bonds right now that's why.
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The other thing is, at lower levels of capital, you probably save more on transaction costs (compared against forgone interest income from bonds) when keeping equities+cash as opposed to equities+bonds.
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post Sep 1 2014, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Sep 1 2014, 06:28 PM)
I asked. There may be taxation restrictions for foreigners, meaning, may be not allowed.
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That's weird.. you can buy Singapore equities, but you can't buy Singapore ETFs?

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post Sep 1 2014, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 1 2014, 04:41 PM)
FSM CMF now 3.2, how many bonds are going to achieve that for the same amount of risk (which is almost absolutely no risk in the case of CMF lol smile.gif )
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If bond is paying below 4%, that is too low. Even FD can do better.
PBB bank bond is paying 7.5%. OSK Medium term notes bond 7.25%pa .

CMF at only 3.2% is only good for parking temporary money.

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post Sep 1 2014, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(SalvationArmy @ Sep 1 2014, 06:42 PM)
The other thing is, at lower levels of capital, you probably save more on transaction costs (compared against forgone interest income from bonds) when keeping equities+cash as opposed to equities+bonds.
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SalvationArmy,

That is not true if you use BND.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=BND+Profile

The annual maintenance fee is 0.08%.

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post Sep 1 2014, 09:58 PM

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http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=VBINX&t=my...n&z=l&q=l&c=VTI

Folks,

Look at the graph and compare VTI (100% US stock) versus VBINX (60% US stock / 40% US bond)

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post Sep 2 2014, 03:59 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 1 2014, 09:44 PM)
If bond is paying below 4%, that is too low. Even FD can do better.
PBB bank bond is paying 7.5%. OSK Medium term notes bond 7.25%pa .

CMF at only 3.2% is only good for parking temporary money.
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What do you mean by 'pbb bank bond' ? is that even for retail investors?

This post has been edited by wodenus: Sep 2 2014, 04:03 AM
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post Sep 2 2014, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 1 2014, 08:15 PM)
That's weird.. you can buy Singapore equities, but you can't buy Singapore ETFs?
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Sorry, maybe I did not understand fully. I was advised not to because of taxation regulations. Not sure if he meant not allowed. I should check again next chance. Anyway foreigners (non-SG) should get details before transferring any funds.
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post Sep 2 2014, 07:35 PM

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vangurard bond peformance not up to par

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pm?s=BND+Performance
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QUOTE(MNet @ Sep 2 2014, 07:35 PM)
vangurard bond peformance not up to par

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pm?s=BND+Performance
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MNet,

Please note that as opposed to an index (which has no expense since it is not real fund), a bond index fund has expense. And, given that Vanguard bond index fund has the lowest expense, it is probably close to the best that you can do. See below for comparison.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pm?s=AGG+Performance

An index fund cannot beat the index. This is COMMON SENSE. If it does, it is probably not a REAL INDEX FUND.

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This post has been edited by dreamer101: Sep 2 2014, 07:55 PM
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post Sep 3 2014, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jun 10 2013, 09:22 PM)
Folks,

In an asset portfolio, most of the return are determined by the stock versus bond ratio.  So, for the first step of asset allocation is to determine the stock versus bond ratio.

This has to be decided by each individual.  The followings are some of the guideline

A) The stock/bond ratio should be between 80/20 to 20/80.  If you go above and below that ratio, you are talking too much or too little risk and do not get the optimal return.

B) Risk versus Return tradeoff. 
   
    1) If you take on higher percentage of stock allocation, your portfolio will be more volatile.  You need to take the "50% test".  Historically, stock can drop 50% of its value at any point of time.  Can you stop yourself from selling when that happen??

    2) Do you NEED to take risk?? If you have ENOUGH money, you do not need to take on higher percentage of stock allocation.

C) Age in bond rule -> A simple rule is to take you age and use that as your bond ratio.

D) All else fail, do a 60/40 asset allocation.  Those are the standard ratio use by insurance company for their investment.

E) When in doubt, lower the stock ratio.  The strategy only work if you can yourself from selling in a market crash.  If you cannot sleep at night with your aset allocation, reduce you stock exposure...

F) Emergency fund is not part of your asset allocation.  You need at least 3 to 6 months of emergency fund.  You may keep longer if you feel your income is unstable.

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strongly agree ... especially the ratio part ... well said
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 2 2014, 03:59 AM)
What do you mean by 'pbb bank bond' ? is that even for retail investors?
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post Sep 4 2014, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 1 2014, 09:58 PM)
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=VBINX&t=my...n&z=l&q=l&c=VTI

Folks,

Look at the graph and compare VTI (100% US stock) versus VBINX (60% US stock / 40% US bond)

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Nice chart. So if we suspect bear is near we convert from VTI to VBINX?
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post Sep 4 2014, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Sep 4 2014, 08:56 AM)
Nice chart. So if we suspect bear is near we convert from VTI to VBINX?
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kaiserwulf,

No. You do not have to. If you BELIEVE in asset allocation, you do not have to time the market. By keeping with a fixed ratio, for example (60/40), you will SELL HIGH and BUY LOW all the time.

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post Sep 4 2014, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Sep 4 2014, 08:56 AM)
Nice chart. So if we suspect bear is near we convert from VTI to VBINX?
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A good strategy to minimize risks (which is his goal) but unless you have cheap, reliable access to the US markets, have to account for commissions as well.

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post Sep 4 2014, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 4 2014, 12:42 AM)
.yes, can buy from cimb bank wealth management
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Ok now I'm confused, don't you have to tender for those? and how many million do you need for it? smile.gif any website or whatever? AFAIK MTN are issues by companies, usually for something like 50 million, and you have to tender for it.

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 4 2014, 12:47 PM)
Ok now I'm confused, don't you have to tender for those? and how many million do you need for it? smile.gif any website or whatever? AFAIK MTN are issues by companies, usually for something like 50 million, and you have to tender for it.
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cant find the link, can only give you thsi,
PBB002 - Non Innovative Tier 1 Stappled Capital Securities coupon. 7.5%
HwangDBS Structured Income Fund IV =6% pa
OSK Medium Term Notes Stock Code UN100016, 7.25%
CIMB001 - Innovative Tier 1 Capital Securities 6.7%

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Vanguard Total World Stock ETF (VT) is down.

almost erase this YTD gain
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post Sep 30 2014, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Sep 30 2014, 09:10 AM)
Vanguard Total World Stock ETF (VT) is down.

almost erase this YTD gain
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MNet,

And, why does that matter to me??

In my annual rebalancing, I had sold VTI and buy BND. I had "SELL HIGH and BUY LOW".

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