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Investment 28 BLVD @ PANDAN PERDANA [OWNERS' THREAD], The tallest in Pandan Ampang

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post Jul 3 2014, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jul 3 2014, 04:02 PM)
R u the authorized seller of the developer?
U r right not many 300k soho in cheras, because not many Mickey Mouse residential at 400++ sqft too.
Home buyer will consider usable space when buying their home, absolute pricing is  not the only reason to buy
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lol no i'm not bro.. true also barely any 400+ sqft around, but it seems like they wanna 'rejuvenate' the lake and surroundings there? not sure why there though lol

QUOTE(tengster @ Jul 3 2014, 04:02 PM)
Anyone got lobang to get the units with RM300K or less, please PM me....
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lol, i don't really know haha.. just came across that site, but i think register and wait for their info is also ok tho.. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 3 2014, 04:10 PM

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I registered liao...i got those standard sms.....
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post Jul 3 2014, 04:21 PM

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wow, flurry of accusations left right and centre!! Such is the power of the internet!

A few pointers :
1. This preview is being conducted by the sales agent, Hartamas, not developer. Developer will only accept sales sometime in mid-July. Hence, Hartamas is trying to give its registrants a lead-in for priority over others once things are open for sale.
2. Hartamas is a pretty reputable agency. Look at their track record (Zehn Bukit Pantai, Suasana Sentral Loft, The Sentral Residences and many more ) and it'll be fairly clear that they are not the kind who would involve themselves with iffy and dodgy practices. Further, they are Real Estate Agency of hte Year and Commercial Real Estate Agency of the Year for three years running.
3. The developer has already obtained AP/DL. Buyers can already immediately sign SPA. If they were looking at testing market, they would have done this whole exercise much earlier to "lock-in" interest from investors
4. Developer is collaborating with Mapletree, which is owned by Temasek, which is owned by Government of Singapore. Hardly the kind of partner who would endorse questionable sales strategies
5. There is no promotional package confirmed yet because develoepr is adopting the net price for SPA, and not those who are offering rebates/discount by credit note etc because this is what the Government has now required. Hence, the prices indicated are teh net prices already and whatebver packages that are eventually adopted, will be priced on to the indicated price only to be removed again to get net price again for SPA. Yet again, showing developer abiding by regulatory requiremetns. Hopefully this allays concerns of the earlier accusation of hanky panky behind everyone's back.
6. Developer has already fixed the prices but will only release it on the determined day. But they are open to those who are interested to perhaps try to get a foothold in the door through these previews. For those more comfortable only committing with a cheque to indicate their interest only when they know the individual prices, by all means wait until the release day. Meanwhile those who are prepared to pay what has already been indicated as teh average indicative prices should have the opportunity to do so without namecalling.
7. As Landmaster has posted, this is a somewhat Singaporean aproach whereby there is indication of interest first with all formalised when the units are actualy launched. In fact, this is no different from what is already ongoing in teh Malaysian context too, save for this being more transparent than many other projects where buyers get in due to connections as the peril of the general buying public.
8. Another reason this approach is adopted is that it is anticipated there will be strong response due to the easier entry level. Hence, it is hoped that this will make life easier for all involved, to manage large crowds

Phew, I am getting more and more cheonghei as I age. Apologies for hte long long reply!

It will be an interesting preview, I'm sure. It;s not like you have to pay to get in anyway. So, go, listen and if you are agreeable and interested, place your cheque. Otherwise, can happily leave with no obligations.

Cheers!
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post Jul 3 2014, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(kevlos @ Jul 3 2014, 04:21 PM)
wow, flurry of accusations left right and centre!! Such is the power of the internet!

A few pointers :
1. This preview is being conducted by the sales agent, Hartamas, not developer. Developer will only accept sales sometime in mid-July. Hence, Hartamas is trying to give its registrants a lead-in for priority over others once things are open for sale.
2. Hartamas is a pretty reputable agency. Look at their track record (Zehn Bukit Pantai, Suasana Sentral Loft, The Sentral Residences and many more ) and it'll be fairly clear that they are not the kind who would involve themselves with iffy and dodgy practices. Further, they are Real Estate Agency of hte Year and Commercial Real Estate Agency of the Year for three years running.
3. The developer has already obtained AP/DL. Buyers can already immediately sign SPA. If they were looking at testing market, they would have done this whole exercise much earlier to "lock-in" interest from investors
4. Developer is collaborating with Mapletree, which is owned by Temasek, which is owned by Government of Singapore. Hardly the kind of partner who would endorse questionable sales strategies
5. There is no promotional package confirmed yet because develoepr is adopting the net price for SPA, and not those who are offering rebates/discount by credit note etc because this is what the Government has now required. Hence, the prices indicated are teh net prices already and whatebver packages that are eventually adopted, will be priced on to the indicated price only to be removed again to get net price again for SPA. Yet again, showing developer abiding by regulatory requiremetns. Hopefully this allays concerns of the earlier accusation of hanky panky behind everyone's back.
6. Developer has already fixed the prices but will only release it on the determined day. But they are open to those who are interested to perhaps try to get a foothold in the door through these previews. For those more comfortable only committing with a cheque to indicate their interest only when they know the individual prices, by all means wait until the release day. Meanwhile those who are prepared to pay what has already been indicated as teh average indicative prices should have the opportunity to do so without namecalling.
7. As Landmaster has posted, this is a somewhat Singaporean aproach whereby there is indication of interest first with all formalised when the units are actualy launched. In fact, this is no different from what is already ongoing in teh Malaysian context too, save for this being more transparent than many other projects where buyers get in due to connections as the peril of the general buying public.
8. Another reason this approach is adopted is that it is anticipated there will be strong response due to the easier entry level. Hence, it is hoped that this will make life easier for all involved, to manage large crowds

Phew, I am getting more and more cheonghei as I age. Apologies for hte long long reply!

It will be an interesting preview, I'm sure. It;s not like you have to pay to get in anyway. So, go, listen and if you are agreeable and interested, place your cheque. Otherwise, can happily leave with no obligations.

Cheers!
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Thanks for clearing the air.

Does placing a cheque guarantee a unit of choice?
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post Jul 3 2014, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Jul 3 2014, 04:29 PM)
Thanks for clearing the air.

Does placing a cheque guarantee a unit of choice?
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no guarantee of unit as the units are not opened yet. Hence, those interested wuold be asked to select 3 units
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post Jul 3 2014, 04:33 PM

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Here they also start to collect register

http://propertyplus.com.my/28_boulevard_by...290000-p-52.php
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post Jul 3 2014, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(kevlos @ Jul 3 2014, 04:31 PM)
no guarantee of unit as the units are not opened yet. Hence, those interested wuold be asked to select 3 units
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Can cherry pick but not sure can chiak the cherry?

cinya koitus-interrupted leh..... just kidding taikor..... tongue.gif
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post Jul 3 2014, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Kendro @ Jul 3 2014, 04:33 PM)
Here they also start to collect register

http://propertyplus.com.my/28_boulevard_by...290000-p-52.php
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Why still need to register when Saturday we can see see only?
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post Jul 3 2014, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Jul 3 2014, 04:38 PM)
Can cherry pick but not sure can chiak the cherry?

cinya koitus-interrupted leh..... just kidding taikor..... tongue.gif
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coitus interruptus is actually for your own good health and safety.... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 3 2014, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(kevlos @ Jul 3 2014, 04:31 PM)
no guarantee of unit as the units are not opened yet. Hence, those interested wuold be asked to select 3 units
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What if all 3 units u pick can't get ?
It is more likely the investors will pick the cheapest unit,2nd cheapest and 3rd cheapest. So all will inclined to pick the similar units?

Singaporean developer really needs to learn and follow the selling scene and culture in KL. It is really not the case in KLV property to submit your cheque, pick any 3 units which u may not able to get it, go back home and wait and pray to your God, hoping you can get it after 1 week. Otherwise come back again and choose the next 3 units u like again.

Few agents carrying the same products. No info on which agent get which units and thus which is the preferred agent to register?
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post Jul 3 2014, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Kendro @ Jul 3 2014, 05:33 PM)
Here they also start to collect register

http://propertyplus.com.my/28_boulevard_by...290000-p-52.php
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Hello Kevlos boss,
Thanks for your explanation.
Choosing a Singapore approach is not wrong, but "new" to local frog like me.

Can you elaborate/provide more past projects of the developer in Singapore?
This helps me understand more about the developer. icon_rolleyes.gif
Thank you

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post Jul 3 2014, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jul 3 2014, 05:16 PM)
What if all 3 units u pick can't get ?
It is more likely the investors will pick the cheapest unit,2nd cheapest and 3rd cheapest. So all will inclined to pick the similar units?

Singaporean developer really needs to learn and follow the selling scene and culture in KL. It is really not the case in KLV property to submit your cheque, pick any 3 units which u may not able to get it, go back home and wait and pray to your God, hoping you can get it after 1 week. Otherwise come back again and choose the next 3 units u like again.

Few agents carrying the same products. No info on which agent get which units and thus which is the preferred agent to register?
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Bro, just to clarify, pick 3 units doesn't mean you end up with nothing if u never get any of the three, ppl in front of you might have bought the units but you will still have the choice to select whatever remaining units subsequently. Its not do or die to only be able to only buy the three units selected.

This cheque collection process is simply to secure your turn to go in and book the unit, the difference between this and first come first serve is to have better crowd control, no queueing over night, for all you know people will start to queue 1,2 or even 3 days before opening. Developer is previewing at Marc Residence, they can't afford people to treat the place like pasar malam as they will disturb the existing residence staying there.

Hope this clarifies
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QUOTE(Landmaster @ Jul 3 2014, 05:47 PM)
Bro, just to clarify, pick 3 units doesn't mean you end up with nothing if u never get any of the three, ppl in front of you might have bought the units but you will still have the choice to select whatever remaining units subsequently. Its not do or die to only be able to only buy the three units selected.

This cheque collection process is simply to secure your turn to go in and book the unit, the difference between this and first come first serve is to have better crowd control, no queueing over night, for all you know people will start to queue 1,2 or even 3 days before opening. Developer is previewing at Marc Residence, they can't afford people to treat the place like pasar malam as they will disturb the existing residence staying there.

Hope this clarifies
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Not sure how many agents speak of behalf of 28B....

Can we know the price before putting the cheque?
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post Jul 3 2014, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(Landmaster @ Jul 3 2014, 05:47 PM)
Bro, just to clarify, pick 3 units doesn't mean you end up with nothing if u never get any of the three, ppl in front of you might have bought the units but you will still have the choice to select whatever remaining units subsequently. Its not do or die to only be able to only buy the three units selected.

This cheque collection process is simply to secure your turn to go in and book the unit, the difference between this and first come first serve is to have better crowd control, no queueing over night, for all you know people will start to queue 1,2 or even 3 days before opening. Developer is previewing at Marc Residence, they can't afford people to treat the place like pasar malam as they will disturb the existing residence staying there.

Hope this clarifies
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I think balloting will solve the issues.
Interested purchasers can be given 1 week time to submit their cheque, they can do the balloting on the weekdays, announce the successful balloters number and session in the website/ by mail/ by SMS, it solve the queuing problem. Then the successful person can pick their unit in the weekend at the allocated session.
As such more transparent!!

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post Jul 3 2014, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jul 3 2014, 05:54 PM)
I think balloting will solve the issues.
Interested purchasers can be given 1 week time to submit their cheque, they can do the balloting on the weekdays, announce the successful balloters number and session in the website/ by mail/ by SMS, it solve the queuing problem. Then the successful person can pick their unit in the weekend at the allocated session.
As such more transparent!!
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That's another good suggestion too! Well we'll see whats the outcome then. But either way, still have to give cheque first la right? HAHA
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QUOTE(Landmaster @ Jul 3 2014, 05:57 PM)
That's another good suggestion too! Well we'll see whats the outcome then. But either way, still have to give cheque first la right? HAHA
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it is DIFFERENT...Ballot is more transparent....
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QUOTE(Landmaster @ Jul 3 2014, 05:57 PM)
That's another good suggestion too! Well we'll see whats the outcome then. But either way, still have to give cheque first la right? HAHA
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This is nothing new indeed, many reputable developers have been doing it.

Sorry for the above suggestion, if the developer practice it, then they don't need property agent, agent tak boleh cari makan anymore
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QUOTE(tengster @ Jul 3 2014, 06:00 PM)
it is DIFFERENT...Ballot is more transparent....
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ya agree.. if talking about transparency..
it is more transparent when we only pay for booking what we see?
Like ballot?
this one how could be transparent, that we are not even sure we can get the unit for the 3 selected units?

given scenario, for eg actually the units are available, but due to some "connection" , the units given priority to others? you got what i mean?

how can we even sure we are actually given the priority?

the key been flashing here is about "priority" , thing is we are not even sure that those attended been given the so called priority..

crowd control a lot of way and i dont think this is the only way.

well if you are saying this preview is to share the info with the public i think it is fine but i think is rather mislead to inform the public you are given the so called "priority" unless it is proven

well anyway, like you say.. those who are not comfortable can walkaway anytime.

Final choice still yours...
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QUOTE(mybenz @ Jul 3 2014, 06:53 PM)
ya agree.. if talking about transparency..
it is more transparent when we only pay for booking what we see?
Like ballot?
this one how could be transparent, that we are not even sure we can get the unit for the 3 selected units?

given scenario, for eg actually the units are available, but due to some "connection" , the units given priority to others? you got what i mean?

how can we even sure we are actually given the priority?

the key been flashing here is about "priority" ,  thing is we are not even sure that those attended been given the so called priority..

crowd control a lot of way and i dont think this is the only way.

well if you are saying this preview is to share the info with the public i think it is fine but i think is rather mislead to inform the public you are given the so called "priority" unless it is proven

well anyway, like you say.. those who are not comfortable can walkaway anytime.

Final choice still yours...
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Apart from a good location, good product, strong developer, a transparent and fair selling method is equally important.

We can't run away from staff/associate purchase, keep some for public loh. Making it less transparent, will make people more kancheung and eventually lose steam....older people will need to sapu ubat tahan lama....
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aiya....best way....whoever interested put rm10k booking non-refundable like Berjaya...and show all prices.....

case close......easy.....

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