Got my Pioneer 6850.

want to get components set this month.,

Looking for a above average set. rm 700 +-

Went to Audio accessories shop they recommanded:

==>Boarchman (hope correct spelling =I'm New) AL-170 series 6.5" rm780 (best price rm500)

==>Roger ABS 6.29 series 6.5" he say better then Boarshman rm980 (Best price rm 750)

==>DLS R6A good? need recommandation on this ...ppl selling in forum at rm 650.....state retail price at rm1.2k wonder is true anot? pls clarify.

I would like to know more on the SQ...not boom boom boom...

they guy say DLS godd on clarity sound..especially the tweeters.

Thanks alot ...



Thanks for helping me this new poison newbie..

wah..wat the use u open so many thread in diff forum? y not u go audit urself instead of hearing ppl's opinion? u r the most weird person i had ever seen...lolz....

diff speaker diff characteristic
the best is to audit other ppl's car

if u really wanna play SQ
get those component that can support bi-amp

i put my bet on genuine a/d/s or DLS R6A (genuine)

i agree with driftmeister. those 2 brands are good

wut is bi amp ?

Usually a normal crossover can accept 2 wire input. one +ve input and one -ve input from the amplifier (2-channel)

bi-amp is those components which can take (2 x 2-channel amplifier)
bi-wiring is those components which can take (4-channel amp x 1)
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They can accept 4 wire input, which are
two +ve input and two -ve input from amplifier
(4-channel or 2-channel x 2)

This post has been edited by Cola: May 3 2006, 07:34 PM

haha hoiwee.. so sorry to open to many thread in other forum..coz need to get as many feedback as possible.

Coz i have no time to visit all the audio shops...bzz working..just got back from seramban...sat maybe go langkawi... tomorrow maybe go genting or kl tower.

so i dont have any time...just based on estimation and recommandation on u guys. ( i knwo is wired) but...tat's what i can do at the moment... sob sob.

DLS R6A (genuine) --also got fake one meh? gosh..tat's y i dont dare to take any brand...scared...buy fom shop very exp...but from forum..scared scared...hoiwee u have lubang to get cheapo comp??

Cola:

I think yor SS i have to consider the sound quality first...coz the audio shop ppl told me..is abit boomy..~~thanks for everything.

just prefer clear sound~~ good meterial & quality build...

so i can go some nearby audio shop n check it out..maybe UPTOWN area there's plenty of Audio shop if im not mistaken..

Thanks

SS boomy?
i haven experienced it.
wait i get a amp to power it and see how boomy it goes,
so far power from my HU the SS just way dun boom...

ohh icic...now im interested in DLS....hehe

dono haven test it out.

what about kicker/Roger/Boarshman?

Good component set??

for that kinda price
u're on the right path choosing DLS
the 3 dat u mentioned is kinda overprice

i am using the DLS UR12 woofers
and used the UR6S and R6A component set b4

if u wan something clear and crisp, y not try cerwin wega? it's better than a lot comp set in the market now even it's 1 or 2 years old product....below 700 also...also jbl and some other brand...

jbl...saw in zerotohundred...but dono how is iz..

what about ADS n DLS? both can chanllenge at price rm800? in sq and spl??

any chance for HELIX BLue 62?

both quality are same par if it's genuine
test before u buy

ohh gosh ...After i install my Pioneer 6850 to my brand new kelisa for a week +...n just now my signal light go off in sudden?

iz the HU consume too muc power? 50W???? i dont understand y a new car will trip the signal light? I assumed is the HU interfear the wiring~~~

or i need a amp to produce more power? will this HU effect the car fuse system?

Pls help...before i proceed deeply to play ICE...

Thanks alot

no
a HU will screw ur wiring system
i assume it's the installer who screw the wiring system
and of cos
amp will produce more juice then a HU
HU only produce 20-25watts RMS

ohh icicic thanks man....

thanks alot...

Any more Component set to recommand...

How good is *M- Quate..* dono what something???

Sorry i really noob in this area..

Mb quart ?

their price is not cheap man
for the price u paid
i will choose a/d/s anytime

how much is ur budget anyway?
wat do u hav currently?

budget rm 800 ~~

i have pioneer 6850 installed 2 weeks ago~

now looking for a above average componet set~...not very high-end ones

btw driving kelisa.

In future will upgrade amp is possible hehe

YUP is MB Quart hehe u guys really expert in ICE~~

is the sound quality good..i heard Mb Quart more in SPL ......

Maybe ADS is the best choice...produce good SQ n SPL is tat so? for ADS R6A???

i think is not worth getting rm 1k above for a small car right hehe. Dont poison too much on myself first~

its DLS R6A a/d/s is 236is
if u can stretch up a bit i can sell u my AVI LXD160 mid and LPGnfa25
these are high end stuff

MB quart need some warm up to tame it..else it will sound a bit bright(especially the DSD)
my 2cents

ohh thanks thanks...at least i have clear pic now.

so u have 2 component set installed in your car?

how much is AVI LXD160 mid and LPGnfa25 and the performance?

thanks

no
i have 1 pair of comp running in the front only( not actually a comp, i am playing full active using the HU x-over)

sorry no pics
cos no digicam
can only borrow from fren

the stuff will be going for RM1000 negotiable
but need to wait i sell my car 1st oni can take out the mid

Full active over the HU x-over? mean? u 3 pre-out form then Hu is tat so?

i have pioneer 6850 and i heard ppls said i save for the pre-amp upgrading and electronic crossover...

but what i need now is an slighty above average com set and in future might add an amp ...n lastly maybe a 6.5" sub..coz im drving a kelisa. Space is a problem for me. I prefer in SQ > SPL. But ocassionly would like to boom abit to released stress after work.

with 6850
if wanna play full active (full control over the cut-off point of each driver)
u still need an active crossover

hey bro,

How about these two items?

==>MBquart dsd216
==> Soundstream Xsc.6

IF not Imitation product~~

ohh yeah yeah what about another 2 more products i capture with my phone 2day.





the pioneeer component set look delicious~ eheh wonder how good is it

Saw both item at Enos 1-U

the Mbquart how much ?

the soundstream for me..the tweeter is very dry..overall lack of detail and not smooth..

and the rogers amp and pioneer comp how much?

disclose the price and let me figure out is it worth anot

driftmeister change new avatar? nice there DLS...wanted to get 1 tat time.

hehe hey my fren selling his comp set + amp+ 8" woofer with box

he using JBL comp set... any feedback for this brand...

specific model info i'll get from him as he promised at work.

thanks

DLS good for SQ...
for me, I will focus on Good Amplifier 1st...

DLS is good....but better one are out there..


Top 10 6.5" Comp click here

With these Comp, simply match with JBL PX300.4 u get a good n affordable SQ. (exclude mono amp + sub)

This post has been edited by iRonTech: Jun 14 2006, 12:20 PM

top 10 ???
the author probably din heard b4 Morel, Dyns, Seas, Accuton or Scans

Dei... those are "too high end" for most people la... i would rather rate those as only 5% of the market share

hey bro,

sorry for the late reply...my fren forgot to bring his Icey...

here goes...

he got a :

-->JBL 6506c 6.5" component set
-->Heritage HTG 424 series 1000w 4 channel

Question :

1. Can i know the feedback for these items.
2. He selling for rm 800 bucks for the 2 items. Worth it?
3. Performance for these 2 items?
4. Do i need to change my battery to support these items? using standard 12V battery, but do i need bigger capacity to overcome some shortage of voltage in my car such as "signal light burn off, wiper fuse burn off ...n etc )
5. What about the magnet of the component set does it affect to "kelisa windows when lowering down prograss?

Item used for 1 yr.









please give some feedback as i'm really dono how to see the output voltage n dono what peak voltage as stated at the picture...

Apperciate the help~~~

Grexer,

Where got high end?? Dainaudio not high end... Moliao where got high end

Looking at the list, I think the fella trying to list down 10 of the best entry level speakers.

_______


Rogers are pretty decent. Power wise, sort of lacking.

Iam driving a Kelisa, and no I didnt change to any bigger batteries. I used to run tri amping using 2 amps, I added a cap and I didnt change the batt.. But have since dump the setup. Too bulky

Why not Alpine SPR-17LS? A friend is using it to play SQ. Using the Rogers RSA 428 to run it. Around your bugdet too.

emm....so...what u think about the latest pic i uploaded?

The JBL GTO 6506 ??? i know there's a newer version call GTO 6507...

How much is the market price for GTO "6506" ???

What about the AMP?? Heritage? never heard before? iz branded Amp??

anyone can give some comman? im a noob in looking at the performance from the net.

thanks in advanced

Terence,

Night time liao, all sifu went to sleep. England vs Trinidad tonight.. Hehhee...

I only heard mostly Alpine setup. So cant really help you. Alternatively, can search the net for more infos.

ya lor...but what to do fren just shown me his icey...

1 2 know is worth it n the market price..

saw the Alpine SPR-17LS u shown me too...browse from google image ..looks pretty nice

can i know how much iz

i drive a kelisa and my ICE is in my sig...

the door window will definitely hit the magenet when its wound down unless u install a baffle (something like a wooden washer to bring the speaker out abit). either that or u can cut ur door's side panel.

if ur not willing to cut ur side panel, then u have to make sure the speaker can fit in ur door....i once tried the alpine type-x components and it just wouldnt fit even with the baffle.... ended up settling for the type-s.

EDIT: sorry....the type-x above is supposed to be the type-r...

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jun 16 2006, 11:03 AM

so bro iz worth of getting the items i mentioned above?

mind tell me how much for each item u get it?

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Alpine CDA-9833
Prokick 75w RMS x 4 channel
- Front : Alpine Type 'S' 6 1/2" Components *With Stinger RCA cables & Stinger speaker cables
- Rear : Force Ten 6 1/2" Components *With cheapo RCA cables & Stinger speaker cables
Agako EG-2000D Monoblock
- Alphasonik DVC 12" Sub in sealed enclosure *With Stinger RCA cables & Stinger speaker cables

thanks

how to give u conman ??
btw..u gotta state ur budget 1st

Alpine CDA-9833 - rm1.6k
Prokick 75w RMS x 4 channel - rm550
- Front : Alpine Type 'S' 6 1/2" Components - rm850
- Rear : Force Ten 6 1/2" Components - rm350
Agako EG-2000D Monoblock - rm1.4k
- Alphasonik DVC 12" Sub in sealed enclosure - rm100 (box) rm450 (sub)

stinger rca 2 pairs - rm150/pair
stinger speaker cables - rm5/feet

this sub im using is my 4th unit.... my previous 3 for some reason keeps having problems...

the agako replaced a jbl bp600.1 that died.

so ive spent quite abit on muh ICE......

total including changes/upgrades bla bla bla - 8.4k

wow....superb icey fella...good on u mate

so do u know anything on JBL GTO6506c version or JBL products?

What about Heratege Amp? heard before?

really need opinion on these two items ...

bro
u got offers for that 2 stuff is it ?
why keep on asking comment on it

yup offer on this 2 stuff...from my fren...

he shown me 2day...

rm 800 can nego abit more...

wonder iz a good deal..

Driftmaster...do u have any information on the items i mentioned?

Madman,

Iam running a 6.5" woofer from Alpine about 80mm depth. Using a 1/2" thick ring. So far okay. But I dont wound my window all the way down...

Terence,

Why not ask him to plug everything into your car and listen? Thats one of the best way. If he really fren with you and keen to sell his stuff. Bear the cost of installation and listen to it, fiddle with the tuning and listen. Your ears are the best solution.

This post has been edited by neo79: Jun 16 2006, 12:13 AM

Hm... if not mistaken, the SPR-17LS falls in the RM800-900 range for brand new, that's normal retail, there's a possibility of getting slightly cheaper. As for this set, i would say you need a matching amp to get the best out of it, especially the midbass department, would rather say the previous SPR-176A would sound better in the midbass department.

Easier to drive I think for the 176A...

which one u using dude? ever tried winding all the way down?? got hit or not?

my previous post tersilap type....it was the type-r that couldnt fit...not the type-x. ive heard of the type-x fitting into a kelisa without much problems...

as for the type-r....the installer was sweating like a pig trying to get it to fit into my car...he modified the baffle so many times until have to make a few more new ones... in the end it was impossible to fit so i settled for the type-s. that went in easily. bought mine for 850.....now the price gone down to 650

@terencetoo
ive heard of the heritage amp before...but never really heard how they performed.. so cant comment on it...

as for the jbl speakers, also never heard before so cant comment. but alot of people say they are mainly best for SPL setup.

n like neo79 said....best to plug them in and listen for urself... ur own ears are best to judge

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jun 16 2006, 11:15 AM

neo79 is using Type-X

The "Top 10" is within "affordable range".

If not, Rainbow CS 260.30 Reference / JL ZR650-CS/ Focal 165 K3p will be in.

there's a LOT more that shud be in my list
moreover i dun think its neccessary to have wat top 10 top 100 list of speaker
sound is just too subjective to be judge

hihi~~~

@mADmAN

Alpine Type 'S' 6 1/2" Components - rm850 ==> rm 650 u sure?

how good is the sound quality? do i need to cut the door pannel in order to fit in my fish?

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Too bad im not very close with my fren. He's my co. boss son.

emm.. i dont think he knows how to install it into my car..so i cant listen to it. sad.

JBL & Heritage more to SPL hmm~.....

By the way...is JBL a very famours brand? i heard he mention his GTO6506c bought at rm 1k last yr.


I dono iz a good deal since he is letting go for rm 800 (nego a bit more) fo comp set and amp.
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Since alpine type-S can fit nicely to my fish...would like to know more on this specific components set. you serious is rm 650 fo this baby? mind tell me how is the SQ n SPL for the comp set? worth of single penny u spend?

thanks alot bro..

currently im staying near kk low ..but their things alwiz overpriced. dont dare to do

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Been spotting DLS (love dritfmaster avatar ) ADS comp. any suggestions?

nerver version of JBL is coming into malaysia market too --GTO607~~

u'll never go wrong with DLS and a/d/s/

okie...should i forget about the JBL thingy? how u guys judge on the JBL comp set i post recently? iz good?

so recommendation for any amp's?

average one...rm 300~ 800

yep....i bought for 850....almot a year down the road asked at another shop they said 650

sound quality...some people say its abit bright at high volumes...... but its fine to me..

no need cut door panel....just need to use the baffle and install... my door panel is sitting nicely with those speakers without any cutting done to it

as for ur amps... good sq stuff are usually expensive... mebbe u could try looking at AGAKO or PROKICK amps.... both brands are from the same company... but keep in mind that both brands are spl brands... if u decide to go with either one...mebbe u can PM kiran84 in zth forum.... hes selling these amps... quite cheap somemore.... wish i knew about him when i bought my agako.

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jun 16 2006, 10:41 PM

u shud get the Sony from ADJ
that classic Sony is well built

better than the current Xplod stuff

ADJ's Sony is sold if i'm not mistaken?

BTW, driftmeister, are you moonlightshadow?

ya meh
din get update

Madman,

I used to run the SPR-176A, and now F17T. Both confirm hit the magnet. So I just didnt wind down all the way. But somehow, with the 17T woofer, it doesnt hit as much as the 176A. Also both confirm hit the door panel too...

Iam assuming you mean the SPS-171A? A good all rounder. A friend who runs it with the SS Edge Series and he usually listens to anime stuff... Not bad and with proper tuning you can get decent quality vocals. The SPS-171A is easy to run. 50W and if you supply it with more, it will sings and sings and sings! Hehehe... BTW 850? Thats about the price, but 650? Where is this price???

BTW, Alpine components are generall bright when it is brand new. If Iam not wrong, the SPS-171A comes with tweeter adjustment? I also forgot liao... If got, when you installed it in, lower the jumper to -3db...

And another fren, who is a boom boom, trance, Prodigy, Limp Bizkit freak is running the SPS-171A matched with a Picasso 4.880 and an Alpine Type S 12" DVC. Good result. Now gotta wait for him to change HU.. Hehehe

Weh... let me know when u drop by CV again, today dropped by Wah Chai not around, hang around for a while and ciao, saw the Estima wif 7990 and H900 there, somehow wondering why he's using a low end JL to match with his Focal(i think, didn't open the doors to peek but the boot was opened) 3-way

hey bro saw Alpine sps-171A for sale for rm 580 in zth.

is this alpine need not to cut my fish door pannel n just add buffer to it. might as well consider.

what about Infinity 5000cs? low end product?

i feel like sticking to 1 product...but seems too many nice components set selling in the market.

by the way CV iz at taman megah near KK LOw?

Today I go to audio shop to find DLS speaker, now planning change my DLS Classic series to high end a bit.

RM1600 for DLS Ultimate series UP6


RM880 for DLS Reference series R6A


...Is it cheap?
... now heart big heart small...

rm1600 for UP6?

i would rather settle for UR36s

i would highly recomend 2 audit the speakers b4 buying. i mean installing 'em into ur car and test.. but i blif this kind of service is onli available at those HIGH END shops..

but i do blif tat paying a little bit extra and get a better service sure it's worth.. btw.. gr8tunes forum and mycarhifi forum got lots of TT session so u can audit the sifus car

once u got in2 their car.. u r goinna b poisoned

wow nice comp set.

i love this RM880 for DLS Reference series R6A plan to get 1 tat time.

delimma delimma.......

how to test or audit the comp set? not many shops can test it.

DLS VS ADS??

How much UR36 sold?

RM1800 new

tweeter adjustment?? no idea man...i got the dudes at CV uptown to fix it (where i bought it). but it sounds perfect now combined with my rear comps.

as for the rm650... it was a shop near my house in ss1 pj. initially wanted to go there....but then CV uptown was near my office (before office moved) and also peter and i are both members of HCOC.. so ...hentam saja laaaaaaaa

but i am very satisfied with the install. very clean....and i absolutely love his tuning for my ice (Metal music) only thing is now....after changing the bp600.1 to the agako... the woofer is sort of overpowering... the amp too friggin strong man..sheesh...havent had the time to tone it down

Peter he knows his stuff.. Haha, I used to visit him with another fren. But since he is in Uptown, and Iam working in Klang, kinda taxing. So move my haunt to CV Kuchai. About 15mins from my place.

HCOC? Wah, mad fellas you two! Hahaha, last I heard his Inte was for sale?

Yesterday got see Morel Supremo in a Car audio shop, like it because sound great & looked cool ...but price very expensive also...
Sifu say he sold a lot Supremo ...till now none regret
What is the price in KL?

around 2k range

hi bro CV at uptown? i stay there. Can i know how's the ICE system there? heard many said ICE at uptown slash ppl's throat bro?

What about SS1? can u briftly tell me where iz ? my old house at ss5 hehe. How's the stuff at ss1. I assume the Icey at ss1 are much cheaper then uptown. At ss1 do they sell Alpine Type-S? what about DLS or A/D/S? can nego the price there?

What else they have at SS1?

thanks

This post has been edited by terencetoo: Jun 18 2006, 08:10 PM

it is?? didnt know... had a chance to drive the his dc2 once.... my boss who was riding with me oso said its powerful...and my boss used to drive a supra!...seriously...his teg is nice...

CV is ok la bro...so u could go there if u want....id recommend it....just be warned that peter is a pure poisoning machine... eg. i went there with a budget of 600 for comps only and ended up spending 1200 for comps AND a 12" woofer + box hehehhe so u just need to make sure u stick to ur budget...be strong no slashing as far as im concerned....other than that...u can go there and seek advice from him...

as for ss1... theres only 1 here.... its at the shop houses next to mobil... the ice here seems not bad.... selling good stuff too... they have the type s there... not sure about others....mebbe u could check them out and see if they might have anything that can suit u

if ur brave enough mebbe u could go to kk lau which is behind taman bahagia lrt station....why i say brave coz there they sell high end stuff...

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jun 18 2006, 08:47 PM

Peter slash your throat? If he does, you let me know... Hahaha... Then me and Madman go cheong his Inte...

BTW, let Peter know your budget and say you have limited resources. He will give you good advice and good options... Otherwise, tell him you are a bit unsure and its best if can demo abit...

This post has been edited by neo79: Jun 18 2006, 10:06 PM

ohh cool cool/....will go ss1 and uptown within this week.

rm 1200? ...emm wat comp u get ? do u get amp as well.

Currently i have change my HU to 6850 ....so whould like to get a comp ...since fishes car stock speakers really sucks ....hai~

or just keep the stock speakers and get an amp to boost the sound quality?

hmm.....type-S or DLS?

It's too vague to just say compare Type-S with DLS as it's as though you are comparing the whole DLS range.

Anyway, if you asked me, if you can get DLS originals for the price range of Alpine, then go for the DLS, it'll be much smoother sounding.

yea

if given the chance of getting Type S or the R6A
i will get the R6A without second thought

My DLS classic series not enough match with my new amplifier...
Now aim the DLS UP6 loh...
The DLS UR36i is 3 way component speaker... Sifu say need modify my dashboard for mid speaker... need think think 1st loh..

1200 was for the type s comps and a 12" american autocraft woofer + box and installation.

i would recommend u go to CV and check it out like neo79 said... uncle peter will help u out within ur budget.....just make sure u keep within ur budget la once again.....be strong!!! hehehe

the only thing ive ever done in the shop in ss1 is install a cheapo sound system in my old car. cheapo meaning cheapo...rm 175 for installation + cheapo wires but they are very helpful to customers there. even offered me to check out if its possible for them to get the amp that i wanted.

Hey Driftmeister,

Need ur opinion, how about DLS R6A vs Focal 165A, n DLS UR vs Focal 165V2 series? In SQ + price range.

er...
i never like Focal
so my votes goes to DLS !!!

The "Real" DLS R6A cost Rm 800 range (same with Alpine 171) ?

So far I got these price range (all still can neg harga turun except Focal) :-

Alpine SPS-171 RM 800
Infinity 60.7 RM 980
Infinity Perfect 6.1 RM 1.4k
MB Quart DSF 216 RM 11xx (05 Old stock)
Kicker KS65.2 RM 1k (06 new stock)
Focal 165V1 RM 1.2k (Cash, from other forum, no neg)

I oso heart big heart small...

Was thinking get In 60.7 / Focal + 4 CH amp (2 Ch bridge for 8" Kicker KS80 Sub help up the bass) so I could hv crystal clear SQ + bass since I dun like strong SPL.

I got the price range for original component speaker below in Penang :
MB Quart DSF-216 RM880
DSL R6A RM880
Morel Pulse RM880
Alpine SPS-171 RM650
Helix BLUE 62 RM580

Eh? SPS-171 650? After discount or belum? DSL R6A...hmm.... tot what ppl said market price Rm 15xx ?

http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2006-06DStd3294787.htm

This post has been edited by iRonTech: Jun 19 2006, 03:18 PM

The sifu say buy a big quantity then the price will be more lower than market.
So he can sell it with cheaper price...
If he buy several pcs, the price should near the market price.
But RM1600 I can get DLS Ultimate series UP6 from Sifu
For Alpine SPS-171 sifu keep > 40 pcs.

Buy from internet got warranty ka?

sorry sorry ya...alpine type-s vs DLS R6A..

hehe...i heard many good reviews for R6A//")

btw...if i get DLS R6A do i need extra Umpph to power the comp set?

eg. extra battery capacity or Amp?

thanks

p/s: driftmaster do u know anywhere can get fair price for DLS R6A at pj area?



This post has been edited by terencetoo: Jun 19 2006, 10:04 PM

I would say its a wasted if good Comp w/o Amp.

(driftmeister influence terencetoo for DLS...)

http://www.dls.se/english/Test_reports/R6A_czech.htm

Wow... DLS R6A seem higher score from the test.

But, some uK audio web show R6A is £169.99, approximately RM 1.1k, so surprise can get at RM 8xx range in KL (refer previous post) ?

heard JBL GTO607c have 2ohm impedance for the comp set...

what u guys think.?

I not a fan of JBL... feel nothing special with JBL, maybe JBL suitable for listen R&B guar..?!

Terencetoo, u seem quite interested on JBL products... mind to tell y ? Other brand not interested at all??

I prefer take DLS & MB Quart more than JBL...
I like MB Quart tweeter very much...DLS sound also tip top..
JBL nothing speacial loh..

This post has been edited by loon1031: Jun 21 2006, 02:53 PM