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Windows Defender, Microsoft new Anti-Spyware software
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TSsoulmate
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May 2 2006, 10:53 PM, updated 20y ago
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Yes, it is Windows Defender http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/s...re/default.mspxQUOTE Windows Defender (Beta 2) is a free program that helps protect your computer against pop-ups, slow performance, and security threats caused by spyware and other unwanted software. It features Real-Time Protection, a monitoring system that recommends actions against spyware when it's detected, and a new streamlined interface that minimizes interruptions and helps you stay productive. in order to download you must be genuine
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samurai1337
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May 2 2006, 10:55 PM
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@_@
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Moderation: Thread moved to security and Privacy
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sotong168
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May 2 2006, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(soulmate @ May 2 2006, 10:53 PM) Yes, it is Windows Defender http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/s...re/default.mspxin order to download you must be genuine  a replacement for M$ AntiSpyware?
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samurai1337
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May 2 2006, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ May 2 2006, 10:55 PM) a replacement for M$ AntiSpyware? Not really a replacement, but rather a new name.
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SUSsynz
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May 3 2006, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(soulmate @ May 2 2006, 10:53 PM) in order to download you must be genuine  Windows Defender(Beta 2) still downloadable through some websites out of microsoft.
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strace
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May 3 2006, 09:34 AM
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If not mistaken you have to be genuine to install it as well because it also checks WGA validation independently.
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TSsoulmate
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May 3 2006, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(strace @ May 3 2006, 09:34 AM) If not mistaken you have to be genuine to install it as well because it also checks WGA validation independently. yup... WGA validation code is vital --- fresh look of Windows Defender (Beta 2)
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TSsoulmate
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May 3 2006, 09:45 PM
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and it has Microsoft SpyNet too...  fyi, The SpyNet Community provides a way for Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) users to help each other by reporting new spyware threats.
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oranje
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May 4 2006, 02:21 AM
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windows defender is more like antispyware, but for antivirus not that far yet..
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Giant
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May 4 2006, 11:19 PM
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This MS ultility is just a test toy! Stay away from it & get Adaware if you r really concern about security!
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TSsoulmate
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May 5 2006, 12:20 AM
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who really cares bout it.. I just givit a try though Spybot S&D is still in my top list
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kerossac
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May 5 2006, 10:04 AM
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New Member
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Windows Defender....not stable enough.... better let it go out the Beta name... baru use it....
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HMMaster
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May 5 2006, 11:57 AM
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10K Club
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QUOTE(kerossac @ May 5 2006, 10:04 AM) Windows Defender....not stable enough.... better let it go out the Beta name... baru use it.... is it? quite stable for me.
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mervyn
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May 5 2006, 08:30 PM
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It seems that made the WGA such an important things..n piracy will be hit hard in the face though..wonder wats the next step of windows piracy..lol
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fariz
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May 5 2006, 09:08 PM
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Tan Sri F
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QUOTE(mervyn @ May 5 2006, 08:30 PM) It seems that made the WGA such an important things..n piracy will be hit hard in the face though..wonder wats the next step of windows piracy..lol Next step? Any software by Microsoft will need validation.
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TSsoulmate
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May 5 2006, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(kerossac @ May 5 2006, 10:04 AM) Windows Defender....not stable enough.... better let it go out the Beta name... baru use it.... thats y they name it BETA just givit a try and if u dun like feel free to uninstall maybe if M$ release the full version we have to pay for it
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natakaasd
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May 7 2006, 04:29 PM
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yea, i tried it, only for one day. cant update itself. seems like a problem faced by many. tired of it. at least ms antispyware was not so problematic. LOL. windows better buckup with debugging, always full of problems, their programs. a common problem many programmers never change, to debug their programs and check for exploits. (shakes head).
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Anderson
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May 8 2006, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(natakaasd @ May 7 2006, 04:29 PM) yea, i tried it, only for one day. cant update itself. seems like a problem faced by many. tired of it. at least ms antispyware was not so problematic. LOL. windows better buckup with debugging, always full of problems, their programs. a common problem many programmers never change, to debug their programs and check for exploits. (shakes head). I am able to update and it's quite stable for me.
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kianwee
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May 18 2006, 12:01 AM
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Stable as a rock for me.
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zidane88
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May 18 2006, 07:12 PM
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i rather use 'Ad-Aware SE Personal',coz windows defender only scan windows files,while 'Ad-Aware SE Personal' scan other folders and windows files
This post has been edited by zidane88: May 18 2006, 07:12 PM
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Cruiser
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May 20 2006, 03:53 PM
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The best thing about Windows Defender is it offers real time protection. Its free also. (for genuine windows users)
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Sphenix
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May 27 2006, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE(Cruiser @ May 20 2006, 03:53 PM) The best thing about Windows Defender is it offers real time protection. Its free also. (for genuine windows users) is it real time?cos my sys taskbar doesn't show Window Defender icon and 0 notify msg
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Cruiser
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May 27 2006, 11:49 AM
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It is. You can enable it in the taskbar through options menu.
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hihihehe
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May 27 2006, 01:01 PM
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if i download the software when i using genuine win xp,then i burn the software to cd.after tht i try install the win defender on not genuine win xp.is it works?
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Cruiser
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May 27 2006, 01:56 PM
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U should b able to. To download it from microsoft website u need genuine. But if u burn and install in others, i think can.
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Cruiser
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May 27 2006, 08:40 PM
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Overall windows defender is best.
Juz 2day i was downloading a freeware from tucows, the minute the download finish, an alert box from windows defender told me they quarantined an adware called claria.GAIN.
Its real time protection is very effective.
This post has been edited by Cruiser: May 27 2006, 08:40 PM
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samurai1337
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May 28 2006, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE(Sphenix @ May 27 2006, 02:30 AM) is it real time?cos my sys taskbar doesn't show Window Defender icon and 0 notify msg The service is running on background You have the option to enable or disable the icon to be shown all the time in systray
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lencent
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May 29 2006, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ May 27 2006, 01:01 PM) if i download the software when i using genuine win xp,then i burn the software to cd.after tht i try install the win defender on not genuine win xp.is it works? it wont work tat way... i copied from another genuine winxp, and it also prompt me a window asking me to get the product key...
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Sphenix
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Jul 13 2006, 07:01 PM
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windows defender create system restore point everyday, does u guy also the same?
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Cruiser
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Jul 14 2006, 10:51 AM
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No, mine did not create any system restore point. There is nothing about creating system restore point in my options.
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adriankhoo153
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Apr 2 2007, 09:14 AM
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Do you think that Window Defender alone is enough to act as Firewall?
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sniper69
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Apr 2 2007, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Apr 2 2007, 09:14 AM) Do you think that Window Defender alone is enough to act as Firewall? IMO, don't think on that way, Windows Defender is Anti-Spyware while Firewall is different
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bean_man
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Apr 2 2007, 10:33 AM
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My take on MS security product...
Windows Defender makes a good second layer defense as is Live OneCare. Microsoft doesn't seem to have a good reputation with Security. If they can fail an AV test meant for their product, I fail to see a reason why people should rely on it. My 2 cents is don't solely rely on it. Many other products that have good historical/statistical results that you can DL (some for free even).. I have it but i'm not giving up my other anti-threats program as yet.
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pipedream
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Apr 4 2007, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Apr 2 2007, 10:14 AM) Do you think that Window Defender alone is enough to act as Firewall? Yeah, it only block certain spyware and adware, other viruses will still go through.. thats M$ for u Vista security is good enough anyway, i only install 1 AVG free on it, thats all
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eXPeri3nc3
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Apr 4 2007, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Apr 2 2007, 09:14 AM) Do you think that Window Defender alone is enough to act as Firewall? Mind you WD is not a firewall.
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adriankhoo153
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Apr 5 2007, 12:38 PM
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How bout Window Firewall then?
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bean_man
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Apr 5 2007, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Apr 5 2007, 12:38 PM) How bout Window Firewall then? Sufficient for starters. Mind you there are plenty of firewalls which is more than basic firewall. If you happen to use ZA, you will see the increased functionality of a firewall rather than just what is seen on Windows firewall. Gives the additional peace of mind....
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pipedream
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Apr 5 2007, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(bean_man @ Apr 5 2007, 02:22 PM) Sufficient for starters. Mind you there are plenty of firewalls which is more than basic firewall. If you happen to use ZA, you will see the increased functionality of a firewall rather than just what is seen on Windows firewall. Gives the additional peace of mind.... ZA is not as concrete as u thing, same goes to all the AV and firewalls in the world u know y? ZA and other firewall doesnt have a.i build in.. and requires self analysing to configure the incoming and outgoing data from ur computer.. if u are computer ignorant.. then the risk is still there
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eXPeri3nc3
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Apr 5 2007, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(bean_man @ Apr 5 2007, 01:22 PM) Sufficient for starters. Mind you there are plenty of firewalls which is more than basic firewall. If you happen to use ZA, you will see the increased functionality of a firewall rather than just what is seen on Windows firewall. Gives the additional peace of mind.... QUOTE(pipedream @ Apr 5 2007, 09:06 PM) ZA is not as concrete as u thing, same goes to all the AV and firewalls in the world u know y? ZA and other firewall doesnt have a.i build in.. and requires self analysing to configure the incoming and outgoing data from ur computer.. if u are computer ignorant.. then the risk is still there Yes, agree with both of them, self awareness and definitely alternative firewalls are better than Windows Firewall. Think of it this way, Windows aren't specialised in producing Windows Firewall, yes, it might look safe but it's not, whereas commercial or free firewalls do a better job. My 2 cents.
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pipedream
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Apr 5 2007, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Apr 5 2007, 10:10 PM) Yes, agree with both of them, self awareness and definitely alternative firewalls are better than Windows Firewall. Think of it this way, Windows aren't specialised in producing Windows Firewall, yes, it might look safe but it's not, whereas commercial or free firewalls do a better job. My 2 cents. IMO, windows firewall is good if u didnt surf to those hardcore pron sites or warez  heck its not memory consuming and annoying compared to ZA ( i have to configure the firewall for a game of dota in the past ) .. i dunno bout you, but windows firewall in vista seems to be much better than windows firewall in xp oh.. i am just using a plain AVG free + windows firewall
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natakaasd
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Apr 5 2007, 10:46 PM
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A proven truth. Windows Firewall is too basic. After you "outgrown" it, you have to change. It serves as a Basic Tool. You still have to go Commercial (Or at least those Free but Good ones. ZA has been tested with time itself) Amongst the Good Ones (Recommended Ones by those who often lurk this Corner of the Forum..., Or at least, been mentioned quite often...) Outpost (Cheers!), ZA (That's mine), Jetico, Comodo, PC Tools and so on. Choose one. Be happy. The Best firewall is still one that works for you.  Lastly, Cheers!
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adriankhoo153
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Apr 6 2007, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(pipedream @ Apr 5 2007, 09:16 PM) IMO, windows firewall is good if u didnt surf to those hardcore pron sites or warez  heck its not memory consuming and annoying compared to ZA ( i have to configure the firewall for a game of dota in the past ) .. i dunno bout you, but windows firewall in vista seems to be much better than windows firewall in xp oh.. i am just using a plain AVG free + windows firewall  Same like me. AVG and Window firewall. Hehe. But i am using AVG Pro
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xavierchan
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Apr 6 2007, 11:13 PM
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well, actually I have a problem while updating the Windows Defender... I have checked online for the solution, but I have no idea how to fix it... can somebody please help? refer to this page, http://forums.cnet.com/5208-12546_102-0.ht...ssageID=2426491, but no idea how to solve it...
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pipedream
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Apr 7 2007, 01:01 AM
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based on the replies in that forum, i think windows think u r running on pirated version of it.. try manually validate.. theres a validation tool for download at m$ website
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id86
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Apr 7 2007, 11:16 AM
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i had tried this thing...when i want to update,got problem. sometimes it hang a bit. i dont know why...then, i removed it
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adriankhoo153
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Apr 7 2007, 11:40 AM
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Hmm, last time i encounter this b4. But then after a few day then ok liau..
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