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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX CLUB V45, new saga this sat? need to fix everyday!

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post Jun 8 2013, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(billy520 @ Jun 8 2013, 10:24 AM)
let me try and see if my LCP gives any difference.  brows.gif

oh ya. i notice something... ayam on "minyak batu" courtesy of gorilla 

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10W-30 for more than 1000km now. what ayam seeing if the engine is more rev happy and what i notice is that FC improves. not sure why but if you see my fuelly, it is fluctuating but 2 tank from shell gives me god damn good FC that i never gotten before. will monitor closely again but if ayam not mistaken, luke was using syntium 10W-30 too before this? does viscosity of EO makes difference in FC?
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I using 0W-30 for over 50k out of 90k total mileage, and my best FC recorded during i'm using 5W-50... yawn.gif
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post Jun 17 2013, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Jun 17 2013, 01:42 PM)
Yes, one of the classic exact example. .  rclxms.gif
dugong you can feel comfort to do it. . though not sure whether there will be any dmg to absorbers. .
if my FLX do it, few times I scare noise come out d. . everything seems so fragile to me. . .
if you get what I mean, FLX don't have the "isi" in it. . .just feel every part of the car is fragile. .

BUT, to compensate that, I tell myself, please don't expect much for a 50K car and think of how helpful it is when a transport is required everyday.  thumbup.gif
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After almost 4 years of Saga ownership, i can almost conclude that Saga bad NVH is mainly due to suspension (Abosrber + spring).

Our car suspension just can't absorb those tiny bump in coarse road, and causing all those low frequency tyre roar that penetrate through side sill, firewall, doors and floor. This one need expensive solution to cure it. It also make the 'already fragile' structure to rattle like hell, thats why many complaint buzz rattle noise over here and there inside the cabin.

Try compare a dugong and Saga ride feel, observe Dugong behavior over bumps, and release Saga tyre pressure until you get the same feeling as Dugong when go over bumps, i can ensure you will get the NVH same as Dugong NVH.

Thats why until now i still using my rim kompang, higher profile, max comfort in terms of NVH, although it looks ugly.

Just my 1 cent.
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post Jun 17 2013, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Jun 17 2013, 02:50 PM)
What pressures do you pump ? 200kpa ?
Mine 230 front 220 back.
In my opinion, works OK for me only cool2.gif
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Due to softer sidewall, my last CC5 tyre during cold i pump 220kpa front and back 200kpa also fine.
Now XM2 come with harder sidewall, hot i pump 210kpa front 190kpa back. If pump like CC5 the ride will bumpy like hell.

BTW, cold and hot pressure difference can up to 20kpa or 2psi.
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post Jun 17 2013, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Jun 17 2013, 03:55 PM)
I understand how it is done if we are talking about testing a material's hardness in a lab.
You have those hardness test machines (vickers, shores & etc).
But how to test tyre hardness outside ?
Unless you are saying the hardness info is from the manufacturer itself.
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Use your finger to press it la...or pump same pressure, look for tyre flex...
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post Jun 17 2013, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 17 2013, 10:14 PM)
Indeed.

And I also wonder if all those cars in the exemption list are compliant now. I'm also surprised the Fiesta 1.4l and 1.6 Sedan is exempted because they both have 7 airbags (before you say anything, I know it is not only about airbags)....but the 1.6S hatchback with 2 airbags in not exempted (which I assume it means it is compliant).
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No la, Proton is pakat with JPJ to come out with that list to tell Malaysian that, except Proton Saga N-Line, all Proton's model pawns continental in safety aspect. yawn.gif
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post Jun 17 2013, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(ibnuasad @ Jun 17 2013, 10:11 PM)
Plotong Tech.... [from FB: Proton Saga FLX Owner Club (POSFOC)]
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Facebook info belip half half enuf adi... unsure.gif
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post Jun 18 2013, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 17 2013, 11:19 PM)
Todei, I unloaded my Shawie's stock spring, ayam on APM GaGa stended spring. Guess what, my no complaint Shawie NVH sardenly became fucuking annoying. Humming sound all the way from Dengkil to Sri Damansara, I almost did not get down and kick my own car doh.gif Handling also feels like GaGa. Mine you before 5:30pm today, my Shawie still running on stock Abs/Spring, 185/60R14 at the back with ONLY sagat issue. Now no more sagat, in return is bumpy ride, rattling sound everywhere shakehead.gif
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Thats why last time i ask whether got softer aftermarket abs or spring lo. The main problem for Saga is humming road roar, which mainly come from front due to hard spring (You can hardly press down the front compare to rear).

I wonder whether Shawie front spring can use in BLM or not...
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