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 Sony Xperia Z & Xperia ZL offcial thread V7, jelly 4.2 update arrived

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post Jun 5 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jun 5 2013, 11:10 AM)
wta, is google playstore always update itself without any notification? cause i suddenly realized that my transparent playstore 4.1.6 mod already turn to stock playstore. so i checked the version, mine is 4.1.10 already.
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Yup, it auto update without notification.
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jun 5 2013, 11:30 AM)
yeah... flagship model have the safest bet of getting updates (hopefully won't end up like XS, getting JB update almost the last one... sweat.gif )

but what i don't understand is all the diff variant of "flagship" model released...
Z, ZL, ZR and UL - high end model
SP - mid range
L, M, E - low end

is there a need to release so many diff variant of the flagship model? or does the ZR consider mid range cos of smaller screen size?
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Actually Sony release too much.

Z, ZL = same, just one without water resistance. If already thinking of ZR release, the ZL is extra, lucky it look quite nice in actual.

ZR for people prefer smaller size, even it is only 4.6 but still can use 1080P screen, so I count this as middle-high.

SP - Mid range.

L, M, E - all low end, too many low end series. (M mention as middle range, for me, sorry this is low end phone)

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UL is Japan only, a bit like ZL in worldwide, A is Japan also, similar as ZR. Actually I seen no point release specific slightly different / change name for Japan only.
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jun 5 2013, 11:50 AM)
if i not mistaken, early this year, SONY said they will only focus in making a premium phone. i thought they were no longer making low end, i guess it was the opposite, they make a lot more low end phones now. laugh.gif

for im fined with sony releasing more phones, so that many people can choose which one suited them. only i hope sony wont delay update for too long especially for their high end phones. xperia s was really a tragedy.
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Yalo, opposite, so many low end phone now, it is too many low end. Low end phone sell-able? I doubt about it, surrounding me most still pick High end or middle range. Hardly people pick low end and I never recommended also, Android for low end is a bit ... err not nice to use.


QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Jun 5 2013, 11:50 AM)
I think because people are complaining too many high end from sony..now need to compete with others in term of low ends.. smile.gif
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But I believe it is too many already now, 3 model ... hmm... where else middle range only one. That M is low end for me, spec is low end, how could be middle range.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jun 5 2013, 11:49 AM)
but comes to think of it. samsung also doing the same for their flagship
S4 8 core
S4 LTE
S4 active (spec unclear yet)
S4 google edition
S4 mini (low/midrange)

maybe this is the current trend of making the most out of your best selling model
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Probably have S4 Zoom and S4 Mega also, haha!

But Samsung most is high end, I believe high end is much sell-able than low end, low end release for keeping it own.
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QUOTE(bergstein @ Jun 5 2013, 11:49 AM)
I thought ZR is only 720p, no?
Can record 1080p video though.
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That why I put it under middle-high.

4.6" does not means no point using 1080P screen, it is not 4.3".

720P screen also can record 1080P video, this had nothing to do with what the screen resolution attached.
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post Jun 5 2013, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jun 5 2013, 12:00 PM)
when i was studying marketing 3 years ago, i remember there was a marketing strategy for a company to spammed the market with a lot of products of their own, the purpose was that consumer will end up still buying their product rather opt for the competitor's products. so basically the ideas is that it is better to compete with your own product rather than the competitors.

samsung succeeded in this marketing strategy. most people i know only see samsung brand when it come to buy a handphone.
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This is true, but if too many, given confusion.

And I really no idea on Sony, release so many low end phone what for, certain people that don't know will though Sony phone so bad if accidentally buying the low end series.
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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ Jun 5 2013, 12:07 PM)
very true^^

n sometimes low end phones dont need to sell, more or less its like platform sharing thingy production cost is so low.

Just enough to gain some market shares will do.
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I still find low end will only destroy the brand name.

Android low end is a no go.
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post Jun 5 2013, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ Jun 5 2013, 12:12 PM)
used to. but with the stable jelly bean around i think it's fine la.

from sony's perspective tech and production line is already there dont use also wasted.

anyway i have to agree to the point where sony declares themselves for not going into low ends anymore earlier this year.

eh eh off topic dah>< shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Haha! Yalo.

Declare not doing low end - pop up a lot now.

Mention SOON update of 4.2.2 after release of Xperia Z - now is already few months, it is not longer soon in means.
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post Jun 5 2013, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ Jun 5 2013, 12:17 PM)
companies paling pandai la use vague terms.

our soon and their soon manyak different one haha.
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Ya, if cannot make it, don't said SOON, people will not much nagging after the SOON period is really too SOON. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Jun 5 2013, 12:34 PM)
yes it is..
yesterday i attempted some shots which I think not good at all..
used Scene-Night Portrait

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Your photo seems got focusing issue.
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Jun 5 2013, 01:28 PM)
i was replying when andrew was saying the 434 camera FW sucks..
still on 434..

im procrastinating on updating to 253 as i don't want to risk my ntfs formatted 32gb to break if i attempt to reformat to fat..
already had traumatic experience doing so..
so im waiting for a chance to purchase a new 32gb, then i update to 253/307...
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Oh, since you still at .434, you no need downgrade and use method at XDA update to .253 with root, then probably can use the 64GB card with support.

By the way, 64GB really troublesome, my previous 64GB in S III now use for DSLR, haha!

and I use back previous own 32GB.
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Jun 5 2013, 01:31 PM)
troublesome as in? support issue is it?
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Ya support issue, as last time I play CM and it not support.
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Jun 5 2013, 01:36 PM)
luckily sony screw ZR on the front camera with vga resolution  laugh.gif thanks a lot! that why i still seeing many facebook user (gals) posted their photos look low resolution  tongue.gif  back to story, if not, i will be very upset on the ZL presence  tongue.gif

actually ZR just 4.55inch, not 4.6 and pixel density just 312ppi, lower storage 8gb,

similar battery 2300mha could be stay longer as smaller screen compare to ZL. is ZR battery removeable?
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The good part of ZR is battery removable.

Some people review - http://bbs.gfan.com/forum.php?mod=viewthre...&extra=page%3D2 (in chinese)
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jun 5 2013, 01:38 PM)
well, if you study back sony's announcement, "soon" is a favourite words from Sony.
when launching TX, said JB update will be available soon after...
same thing with Z, also said 4.2 update will be available soon after...
not to mention JB for XS... also countless "soon"...

vague marketing promises only
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But Sony extra add-on "Now the Z is much stock look, easier for implement future firmware updates".
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QUOTE(leroy87 @ Jun 5 2013, 02:24 PM)
guys is there any sensor on the front of Xperia ZL? Cause I recently bought a flip casing, and i noticed that when i flip close, it didnt lock the screen.. I cant seem to find the sensor option as well..
Any apps or ideas to help?

Thanks.
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No such sensor. It won't close for you, anyway you can find such app at Play Store but all battery drain.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...e=search_result

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...nRyb2xUcmlhbCJd
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QUOTE(airspeeder @ Jun 5 2013, 03:58 PM)
i m using that auto lock/wake flip casing for my nexus7..
the very anoyying problem with the casing is.. it always lock my n7 if i fully open the flip..
the sensor detects the magnet in the flip (folded behind the tablet) n lock my screen..  mad.gif
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Case problem, some case like that. OK one won't behave like that.

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post Jun 6 2013, 12:34 AM

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S4 active is IP67 which better in dust protection, as it is under level 6 but same level of water resistance at level 7 of Xperia Z.

Xperia ZR is IP58 which means still one step below S4 active on dust protection but one step ahead on waterproof this time at level 8.

Xperia Z is IP57 which one step below dust protection of S4 active as well one step below Xperia ZR on water resistance only.
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QUOTE(philip42 @ Jun 6 2013, 12:35 PM)
Awesome shots as always from you bro !
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Thanks. smile.gif

QUOTE(xgnesh93 @ Jun 6 2013, 01:44 PM)
Now I am so JELLY, so much poison going to my head until I can't decide which one to choose between Z or ZL.. rclxub.gif
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I believe both same, will snap some this weekend as I going back, can test out my sister ZL.
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