Luckily I stick with the Chinese subs

Changing a rider name is really WTF. And Warring Driver is a wrong translation as well if you really follow the kanji

Baron Mango Arms is channelling Kiva Empeoror using Dogga Hammer XD

Episode 4, the very first time Gaim and Baron entered the forest

According to Kaito himself in this episode, he considered Banana Arms his best lockseed and he only switched to Mango once he saw that cut/pierce attacks did not work on the Inves, but blunt force attacks did

I really don't get Kaito's character at all. I know Yggdrasil ran his father's factory into the ground and broke up his family when he was a child so he developed the "might makes right" mindset and determined to be the strongest. But, what does any of these have to do with dancing? I mean if you really want to have power, aren't there much more options you can do? Becoming a corrupt corporate executive? Top of the corporate world? Anything besides the leader of a dance group?

He also has the usual rival/antagonist secondary rider syndrome: Talking big. For all his big talks about strength, he got his ass kicked (and humiliated) and his no1 title stripped by Gaimu and others, yet he still acted arrogant and as though as he's still the best. You would think he would mellow out after being backstabbed by poorly treated subordinates and getting beaten by these newcomers.

"Helping innocent people? Ha!". Sometimes I really don't get these Beat Riders. These are real monsters and they are really hurting people. And you still treat this as a game as according to your twisted logic? Come on Kaito! Then again, I guess not everyone is as selfless as Team Gaim.

I think Kaito takes himself way too seriously. I really like Baron's design and sorta works as Gaim's rival. He also has great lines like the one above. But for now he just came across as a prick who sprouts too much nonsense about strength in (for now) street dancing.

Kaito's attitude would work much better if it is not on some trivial stuffs like street dancing. Gaim's attitude is like "Dancing should be fun!" and Kaito is the typical "stop having fun!" guy. I mean, what does street dancing got to do with power conquer all talk? True, the best team will be on the top but Kaito is way too obsessed with it. I know Urobuchi is trying to go for warring states feel, but the dancing teams do not work like those warring states camp at all. Become the top dance team (even though dancing is not involved and there isn't any price) is not a powerful motivations to start these conflicts, unlike Ryuki's rider war.

Based on prior episodes, it seems the street dancing does allow certain amount of bonus like what Kouta earned. We really should have some more details on why the other dancers got too obsessed with dance and Invess game.

I agree. I like Kaito and his rider suit design. But his power is everything philosophy becomes laughable due to his nonstop losing streak.

So far he only won when fighting mook monsters and another two on one fight

Farewell party to Hase-chan in advance

The episode preview mentions something like "Inves infections". So I assume random victims....

Great episode, very informative and shaping up the second arc nicely. Kouta is a great and willing to take the rest to help others. On the other hand, Micchi seems to heading to a darker path. The interesting part is the reveal that Kaito and Mai's are forgotten childhood friend and Mai was a miko. Maybe that's why she will be chosen by the forest? It seems both Kouta and Kaito will be the key in shaping the Rider War if the gold hair Mai's warnings are true....and the future doesn't look so good.

And once again, Kaito sprouted random nonsense about strength while picking on weaklings like Kurokage. His speeches would have been more powerful if he didn't suffer nonstop losing streaks ever since he first henshin and his real victories were not against mook Inves or through tag teaming.

This post has been edited by LightningZERO: Jan 5 2014, 08:49 PM

I think it's the same. The one in Yggdrasil even got white miko-thing papers on it

That's why blonde Mai has a connection with the forest. I think she's not Mai, rather a will of the forest, taking Mai's form as she was the miko of the shrine/tree/forest

Bravo is all kind of lol

And Kaito henshin into Baron to fight 4 civilians was all kind of lol

Awesome episode

Those returning characters are probably no more than glorified cameos

I already lost interest in these VS movies. Lost the team up magic as they throw up these team up movies every year.

Still no news about Baron upgrade? At this rate his losing streak will continue

Saw the twist coming. But still, awesome episode. SHit just got real

Pretty good...the coat changes according to the lockseed he use

And Baron didn't get one. He's losing far behind Gaim

Yeah...he is designated rival and seems to be a key player in the future war. But his performance in show is WEAK. With no news of his upcoming upgrades, I expect to see his losing streak continues and gets his ass kicked by Energy riders nonstop for at least another 10 episodes

Best part of the episode?

The mystery of the belt announcement is solved!

Gaim uses upgrade points to upgrade states and unlock new forms

Baron uses upgrade points to recruit more warriors. Let's hope this time he won't get stabbed again XD

Wow...awesome episode. Nice debut of Jinba Lemon.

And the BGM....man, the BGM was so awesome, it's like entering whole new series and shit is about to go down.

Any guess to the truth of the forest and what Michi saw? I bet the forest is actually an alternate Zawaii City itself

Wait what? So other riders won't be getting any upgrades at all?

Ouch, that sucks

I thought Baron, the fated rival will at least have an upgrade form