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post Jul 29 2013, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Jul 29 2013, 07:46 AM)
i see... so that board will estimate 1818 bucks?  shocking.gif that's wicked!
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RM1818 is for M6E (Extreme) bro. smile.gif
Not M6I (Impact)
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post Jul 29 2013, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(yaphong @ Jul 29 2013, 09:02 AM)
Yeah I have updated the BIOS to the latest available (0711).
Here's the screenshot,
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What about setting manually the CPU ratio @ 38x?

Here, fill all the Cores Ratio Limit boxes to 38, save and restart

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post Jul 29 2013, 12:14 PM

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Seems like 3250+ is possible for CFR based TridentX 2800C11 kit

TridentX CFR 2800CL11-13-13-35 1T - 3250CL13-15-15-42 2T@ 1.725

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post Jul 29 2013, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(yaphong @ Jul 29 2013, 04:56 PM)
I already did that earlier  sad.gif
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Your MCE, I saw AUTO?
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post Jul 30 2013, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(yaphong @ Jul 29 2013, 06:35 PM)
Hahaha the only thing odd is the motherboard. I wanted all PCI-E board (i.e. no PCI slots), however the closest board from ASUS would be Z87-Pro. I don't need the WiFi (because I believe it is only 2x2 stream) thus I just top up a little more for Hero. I am using the onboard soundcard for headphone (due to it has amp for front panel output). I was thinking to get 4670k but that would mean I need to invest another 200 for a proper HSF for cooling. As far as I know, RAM overclocking doesn't really give real life performance right?

In short, I choose Hero 50% because it was cool (I know MSI G45 has all PCI-E for around 600, but fanboyism kicks me there hahaha).

As for the MCE, it is all running on high performance. Nothing is on power saving here.  icon_question.gif
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okay ASUS rep advises you to manually enable c3/c6


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post Jul 30 2013, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(yaphong @ Jul 30 2013, 02:18 PM)
You spoke to ASUS rep? Anyway, how do I enable this? Can tell me more?  smile.gif
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Pls read your User Manual page 3-27, you need to enable C-state to see the C3/C6 options.

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If it doesn't help, try flashing to BIOS 0029
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post Jul 30 2013, 08:49 PM

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M6I is better in mem OC. It overclocks this CFR surpassing 3100+ when its elder bro can't.

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3250 12-15-15-35-2T @ 1.75v

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post Jul 31 2013, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jul 31 2013, 09:56 AM)
seeing 3xxxMHz ram is really hard to take... resist I must...  mad.gif  tongue.gif

nice clock on d CFR bro... if I can be half as good I'm dead happy liao...  sad.gif
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Thank you sir. 3k is nothing for Haswell. Real man already played with 4k+ huhu

QUOTE(kelvinchen @ Jul 31 2013, 10:32 AM)
rclxms.gif good job bro .. thumbup.gif
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TQVM bro. I believe MFR can ho higher than what you hit on M6E. I will to get a stripped XP for you ASAP. Seems like I got a broken installation CD right now haiz.
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post Aug 1 2013, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 1 2013, 09:07 PM)
u were right sir... 4.5GHz indeed need 1.2v... but ram still got alot to catch up...  sad.gif

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I saw a very good chip you have there bro. As for the RAM, what IC is that? It is a very important info coz different IC has different overclockability.
Once you know the IC, it is easier to guess the highest frequency and timings it can achieve.
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 1 2013, 09:38 PM)
it's not mine bro, just a loaned combo for me to get up to date abit with intel...  sweat.gif

d pair is runnin on cfr... there's no way on earth i can reach 2800MHz for d time i have... always a very slow learner...  sad.gif
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CFR... common rates are:

2600 10-12-12
2666 11-13-13
2800 11-13-13 or 11-14-14
etc
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post Aug 1 2013, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Aug 1 2013, 08:03 PM)
Start to play with 4.6 GHz........day time temp on the brick........ sweat.gif
Waiting for one more 4770K and one will be delidded,for sure..... nod.gif

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Note:
ROG owners (EXTREME, FORMULA, GENE HERE, IMPACT) has new BIOS 0038:

http://forum.hwbot.org/showpost.php?p=258041&postcount=181

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Owi....rectify my ranking on first page,thanks.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 1 2013, 09:07 PM)
u were right sir... 4.5GHz indeed need 1.2v... but ram still got alot to catch up...  sad.gif

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Ahh I saw max temp hit 99/100C, isn't that throttled already? hmm.gif

You guys need this:
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QUOTE(stasio @ Aug 1 2013, 10:16 PM)
4.5GHZ I am stable with 1.275V and 4.6GHz, must increase to 1.325V....

Anybody know what's going on newegg.my.......?  hmm.gif
Ordered my 2933 memory beggining of last month,now ......maybe second week of this month.  doh.gif
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huh. you also ordered the 2933c12 kit? Heard something wrong with their last shipment. Misplaced?

QUOTE(yu_wang @ Aug 1 2013, 01:03 AM)
Anyone facing delayed order due to US carrier misplacing their shipment? Just found out this happened to me, 3 weeks wait become 6 weeks whereas initial estimate was 2 weeks mad.gif
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FYI, we have one newegg MY staff here in LYN. Keatsan. Perhaps you could give him a PM/call for clarification.

I just bought the same kit few days ago on 30/7 and they were going to place order on 31/7.
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QUOTE(stasio @ Aug 1 2013, 10:44 PM)
Yes,I paid on 05. July (Invoice 1045)...... blush.gif 
I spoke with them last week,they apologize...bla,bla......and told me 2nd week of August for sure.  shakehead.gif

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You paid less then me......I paid RM1,312.60.....on line by cash rclxub.gif
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Mine was quoted USD rate of 3.2. Now is 3.3 gg
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QUOTE(stasio @ Aug 1 2013, 11:12 PM)
My g.......they charge me same rate..........and I didn't check well....  doh.gif vmad.gif
Should be same as you.  nod.gif
Sending mail just now.............. vmad.gif

Edit:
They charge me VAT in quotation........ vmad.gif

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If the item is not listed in newegg business then you should be charged VAT.
Maybe that time it was not listed there yet.
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Prod...m=9B-20-231-683
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QUOTE(aladdin @ Aug 3 2013, 03:30 AM)
which i5-4670k batch has the best oc ability?
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Batch doesn't matter bro because two CPUs from the same batch will not have the same performance.
It is unique and hard to tell which one is a good or bad chip. smile.gif
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QUOTE(aladdin @ Aug 3 2013, 08:53 AM)
Im getting a i5-4670k in the next couple of weeks. Any ideas which batch should I get?

Also, I read some article saying that H87/H81/B85 can OC K cpu..not sure it is true or not.
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It's all about draw of luck and lottery of silicone so just pick any batch will do. smile.gif

The non-Z board overclocking will be disabled by BIOS/windows update. If you can afford a K CPU, you should be able to afford a Z board as well. I know can save some bucks, but why choose to have the limitation. laugh.gif

Intel Cracks Down on Motherboard Vendors Offering Overclocking on non-Z Chipset

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Over the past couple of months, motherboard vendors from across the industry offered BIOS updates for their motherboards based on Intel B85 Express and H87 Express chipsets, which enable CPU overclocking for Intel's unlocked Core processors denoted by "K" brand extension (Core i7-4770K, i5-4670K). This reportedly hasn't gone down well with Intel. Intel's Bxx and Hxx chipsets are significantly cheaper than its Zxx series chipset. Sensing a clear threat to its revenue, from the prospect of motherboard vendors coming up with high-end or overclocking-ready (strong CPU VRM) motherboards based on cheaper chipsets in the near future, Intel cracked down on them.

Intel is giving final touches to a CPU microcode update that restricts Core "K" Haswell processors from overclocking on chipsets other than Z87 Express. A microcode update can be deployed both through BIOS updates, and surreptitiously through Windows Update. Intel's used the tried and tested "stability" bogey to justify the update. While it's true that motherboards based on B85 and H87 tend to feature weaker CPU VRM, there's nothing to say that ASUS wouldn't have gone on to design its next ROG Maximus on H87 Express, and save on manufacturing costs. While it's purely hypothetical, something like that wouldn't be in Intel's commercial interests. What next? Intel will push this new microcode update on to motherboard vendors, instructing them to issue BIOS updates with it; and future batches of Intel "K" CPUs may not support overclocking. If that isn't enough to contain the problem, Intel may give Microsoft a ring, and ask it to push the update through Windows Update. It tried that once in the past.

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Impact will have C2 stepping chipset.

CFR @ 3337.8MHz 12-15-15

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Aug 3 2013, 05:55 PM)
off turbo boost and clocking?
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Pls ignore my CPU core/uncore/GPU clocks when I'm overclocking the RAM. yawn.gif

QUOTE(stasio @ Aug 3 2013, 10:25 PM)
Nice Owi,  rclxms.gif
are you on 0403 BIOS?
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Nope, I'm on still 0401 smile.gif
I saw 0403 and 0039 were released yesterday rclxub.gif
I got 0038s for media only to be tested later today.
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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Aug 4 2013, 10:08 AM)
orh... Using G.Skill RipJawsX to OC ram? biggrin.gif
haha sorry my bad
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No. It is the CFR based G.Skill TridentX 2800 11-13-13 1.65v 2 X 4GB

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QUOTE(Star_Scream @ Aug 6 2013, 06:21 PM)
Hi all sifu, this is my first oc on 4570K and Asus Z87M-Plus and I've read many guides.

One of the guide on first post [OCers] 3 Step Guide to Overclock Your i7 / i5 Haswell Platform caught my attention on how to check whether the chip I have is on the upper end or the lower end of the Haswell bell curve. Quote from the author:-
My Haswell cant boot past 4.3GHz on 1.25V manual. Heck it cant even boot past 4.2GHz when I set the voltage setting to adaptive or offset. My questions are:-

1) Does high performance RAM increase the oc capability of the CPU? I am using normal RAM only.
2) Does good cooler increase the oc capability of the CPU? I am using stock cooler.

Stick to 4.0GHz for now with stock cooler, 90C on full load. Well, for normal gaming my CPU just 60-70C so I might not want to invest on new cooler if my CPU cant go beyond 4.3GHz.

Thanks in advance for your advice.
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I have no comment on how good is your chip bro since I have never played with a 4570K before.
So far having some 4770K average chip is 4.5GHz @ 1.25v LinX stable. A golden CPU is doing as low as 1.2v at the same frequency.
Try playing with Load-line calibration in Digi+VRM option. It will control the way your CPU's idle/load vCore.

1) High performance RAM doesn't help CPU overclocking. Just that the higher RAM speed, the more stress the integrated memory controller (IMC) will get hence the more voltages you will have to pump to the processor to stabilize it.

2) The lower the temperature, the lower the vCore needed hence overclock ability is improved.

Get a better cooler bro for better overclocking. Stock cooler won't go that far nod.gif

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