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TSNoblish
post May 31 2013, 03:03 PM, updated 13y ago

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Lets discuss the pros and cons for the update.
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post May 31 2013, 03:11 PM

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Magnus lvl 1 RP - 50 damage only?

You gonna be kidding me~ A normal attack deal more damage than that.
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post May 31 2013, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(A4pApEr @ May 31 2013, 03:11 PM)
Magnus lvl 1 RP - 50 damage only?

You gonna be kidding me~ A normal attack deal more damage than that.
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yup ...in before so imba...one of the first hero to be banned...i wonder will they even bother to pick magnus now
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post May 31 2013, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(Noblish @ May 31 2013, 03:15 PM)
yup ...in before so imba...one of the first hero to be banned...i wonder will they even bother to pick magnus now
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take it or leave it . valve doing good job balancing all the hero .. this is the part of the portion only! there still yet to come, all hero havent add in . u guys just wait lol .

is not like nobody going to pick magnus , like i said ... Drow too imba so they nerf it ... and so was magnus .

to repeat again, look on the first word i said.

TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
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post Jun 1 2013, 04:48 AM

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a very good update. hope this will be brought to D2 asap. oh and btw, doom is imba with aghanim!
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post Jun 1 2013, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(A4pApEr @ May 31 2013, 03:11 PM)
Magnus lvl 1 RP - 50 damage only?

You gonna be kidding me~ A normal attack deal more damage than that.
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for some reason, i felt i need to answer this.

50 damage isnt that big deal actually. u want rp for crowd control not the damage.

at lvl 16 its 200 instead of 300 which is 33% lower.

this wont effect magnus credibility in pro games.

want more explanation? check out jakiro ice path ds vacuum and tauren chieftain aoe control.

all dont have a significant damage but how it effect the game is huge.
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post Jun 1 2013, 06:58 AM

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nanti i edit slow- slow

my pov on patches

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post Jun 1 2013, 08:56 AM

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damn bs, seriously.

see enemy come with dd, debuff them!!
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post Jun 1 2013, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(xHj09 @ Jun 1 2013, 04:48 AM)
a very good update. hope this will be brought to D2 asap. oh and btw, doom is imba with aghanim!
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I think Doom is better now due to the fact it blocks Feast, Backtrack, Dispersion, Juxtapose, Bristleback and Blood Bath. The aghanim rework is okay but not that any significant. Most of time if you combo your skills to doomed hero, 90% chance he's gonna die anyway.

BS is more bs. Ult goes through BKB and bloodrage can dispel ethereal heroes. You can only escape through tp now until he gets his basher.
Omniknight is kinda ridiculous with its ult becoming global and affecting buildings. I think we're gonna see aghanim rush on him more often
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post Jun 1 2013, 02:39 PM

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I love Omniknight change the most tongue.gif
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post Jun 1 2013, 03:59 PM

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Tbh i like all the balance tweak.
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post Jun 3 2013, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(am3rr @ Jun 1 2013, 06:50 AM)
for some reason, i felt i need to answer this.

50 damage isnt that big deal actually. u want rp for crowd control not the damage.

at lvl 16 its 200 instead of 300 which is 33% lower.

this wont effect magnus credibility in pro games.

want more explanation? check out jakiro ice path ds vacuum and tauren chieftain aoe control.

all dont have a significant damage but how it effect the game is huge.
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Yeah. I agree with you for some points. As an initiator, the skill might not need much damage.

lvl1 -66% dmg, lvl2 -55% dmg, lvl3 -33% dmg

Since the damage has been lowered. Does he still worth to go for a refresher orb? or better go for some damage items to increase for his dmg.

And i don't think we should compare with those heroes normal skills you have mentioned with an ultimate which needs a 120-100 cool down time. Anyway, i think RP is still better than Black Hole. tongue.gif

Didn't get the chance to play with the new map yet. Will try it out and see how it really works. Good to have so much changes to make the game more balanced.

Just my 2 cents. thumbup.gif

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post Jun 4 2013, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(A4pApEr @ Jun 3 2013, 03:04 PM)
Yeah. I agree with you for some points. As an initiator, the skill might not need much damage.

lvl1 -66% dmg, lvl2 -55% dmg, lvl3 -33% dmg

Since the damage has been lowered. Does he still worth to go for a refresher orb? or better go for some damage items to increase for his dmg.

And i don't think we should compare with those heroes normal skills you have mentioned with an ultimate which needs a 120-100 cool down time. Anyway, i think RP is still better than Black Hole. tongue.gif

Didn't get the chance to play with the new map yet. Will try it out and see how it really works. Good to have so much changes to make the game more balanced.

Just my 2 cents.  thumbup.gif
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IMO Refresher for sure. AOE CC like that is always good, even if 0 damage.
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post Jun 4 2013, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(A4pApEr @ Jun 3 2013, 03:04 PM)
Yeah. I agree with you for some points. As an initiator, the skill might not need much damage.

lvl1 -66% dmg, lvl2 -55% dmg, lvl3 -33% dmg

Since the damage has been lowered. Does he still worth to go for a refresher orb? or better go for some damage items to increase for his dmg.

And i don't think we should compare with those heroes normal skills you have mentioned with an ultimate which needs a 120-100 cool down time. Anyway, i think RP is still better than Black Hole. tongue.gif

Didn't get the chance to play with the new map yet. Will try it out and see how it really works. Good to have so much changes to make the game more balanced.

Just my 2 cents.  thumbup.gif
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haha, if u dont want to compare with those hero, how about enigma, and treant, both aoe crowd control, and no noticeable damage. magnus still need to go for RO, why bother damage item, when u got ur team to deal it for u. in a hectic team war, aoe stun is much more important than damage output. 2x aoe stun for double period is much better than an extra 120 damage u get when buying damage item deal over 1 ulti period

remember, dota is a team game.
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post Jun 4 2013, 02:09 AM

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- Fixed a bug that allowed some players to control two heroes
- Fixed being unable to easily tell when Tombstone was Decrepified
- Fixed False Promise interaction with Shallow Grave
- Fixed Quelling Blade doing damage to allied wards
- Fixed the passive regen missing on Spirit Bear's Armlet
- Fixed Empty Bottle courier slow lasting a couple extra seconds after it is filled
- Fixed Buyback cooldown display not always being accurate
- Fixed Rupture hurting couriers
- Fixed some issues with targeting near units with Stone Caller
- Fixed Flak Cannon vs Gem
- Fixed Panda with Bloodstone being unable to revive
- Fixed swapping costing you an extra 100 gold if you swap after repicking a new hero
- Fixed multiple swaps costing you more gold
- Fixed Bloodrage removing Doom and stuns from allies cry.gif
- Fixed Bloodrage removing Elder Dragon Form
- Fixed various tooltips
- Fixed a bug with Courier haste speed when interacting with slows
- Fixed Bloodstone charges being slightly inaccurate when activating the item manually
- Fixed Rupture piercing Shallow Grave
- Fixed False Promise interaction with Armlet and Power Treads
- Fixed Shadow Demon base int
- Fixed Mortal Strike interaction with Linken's Sphere
- Fixed an Aghnaim's Scepter droppability issue
- Fixed aoe XP/Gold with deny/neutral/suicide
- Fixed Aghanim Reaper buyback not being prevented properly if someone else gets the last hit
- Fixed some minor issues with the values on Eye of the Storm
- Fixed Geomagnetic Grip being wasted if targeting ground and no nearby Rock is found to pull
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post Jun 4 2013, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(bryan @ Jun 4 2013, 01:18 AM)
IMO Refresher for sure. AOE CC like that is always good, even if 0 damage.
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QUOTE(am3rr @ Jun 4 2013, 02:01 AM)
haha, if u dont want to compare with those hero, how about enigma, and treant, both aoe crowd control, and no noticeable damage. magnus still need to go for RO, why bother damage item, when u got ur team to deal it for u. in a hectic team war, aoe stun is much more important than damage output. 2x aoe stun for double period is much better than an extra 120 damage u get when buying damage item deal over 1 ulti period

remember, dota is a team game.
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Agreed.

However, sad to say that, in pub games most of the players are for himself only. sad.gif

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post Jun 5 2013, 12:56 AM

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Ursa fury swipe from 6s to 15s i think is too much. 10s ok, but to more than double the cool down is a little too much.
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post Jun 5 2013, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(FLu_Shots @ Jun 5 2013, 12:56 AM)
Ursa fury swipe from 6s to 15s i think is too much. 10s ok, but to more than double the cool down is a little too much.
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Which cooldown are you talking about?
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