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V11 - Property Prices Discussion, Intelligent debates only pls
V11 - Property Prices Discussion, Intelligent debates only pls
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Jun 3 2013, 10:07 AM
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Jun 3 2013, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jun 3 2013, 05:35 PM) Haha. I think many person waiting will collapsed first after seeing more and more properties are beyond reach before the banks collapse I don't think so, if the property price are beyond reach. Who will collapsed first? There are so many property for rent....they can even bargain for a cheaper rent. A very clear point is the auction houses are increasing, do you think the bank won't afraid? Do you think investor aren't afraid? Fundamental will judge the future, good show ahead, stay fun with the game and I will be watching the event.This post has been edited by Steven83: Jun 3 2013, 07:27 PM |
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Jun 3 2013, 07:22 PM
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Jun 3 2013, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(Aventador360 @ Jun 3 2013, 07:28 PM) You are smart indeed. Smart or not I dunno as far as I know is look for opportunity globally. I can't advice much on your status as I not sure about your strategy. Firstly I already left AUD for quite some time and move to other currency and I work on equities instead of putting the cash in the oversea FD. For gold, you could enter now but don't expect to have much gain as US has over sell the gold. The gold can now maintain its status is because of the demand from asian. I'm not specialize in metal stuff, but I feel that if you have the extra. No harm to hold the gold for 1 year, you should be able to see the gain by next year.... but note that nothing is perfect...even comes to property therefore...look at the news and chart often. And...please be careful with any government policy...they are deadly. If u want to know something from me, as return I will want something from you. Therefore you could pm your advice and info to me, we can share our founding.The Ringgit has been strengthening against many currencies in the last 12 months. So which currency are you holding? The following currencies have weakened against the Ringgit in the last 6 months. AUD SGD STG USD I seriously need your counsel. Gold also has co me down. I believe that you are the answer to my financial success. Advise me! Unless now you are going to say that you are inequities? |
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Jun 3 2013, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(Aventador360 @ Jun 3 2013, 07:40 PM) Sorry for being a bit rude but I think that if the market collapses then it's going to be pretty dismal for everyone. I hope we all prosper irregardless. anything is possible, and I don't hope to see Msia market collapse. But by looking at China company is moving in Msia job market.....I had bad feelings about this...as even China market already slowing down by looking on the data...China won't be as nice as US or JAP or Germany....looks at their human right policy...and how they treat their own people. They going to do a mess on our land soon....THanks to our so so great government. |
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Jun 5 2013, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 4 2013, 01:02 PM) No need wait until bank collapse.. if interest rate goes up 1%.. already lots of over leveraged people collapse... then the property prices will come down naturally. +1, there is a cycle for all investment. And yes I will be expecting BNM to do something soon...There is a cycle for all investment, property included. Look at those people saying investing in gold sure win one..now? The collapse in bond is already starting.... signalling higher interest rate to come. JGB bonds interest went up from 0.3% to 1.2% briefly before BOJ suppressing action brought it down back to 0.85%. Similarly hit is Europe, US and emerging market bonds. |
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Jun 5 2013, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jun 5 2013, 02:10 AM) Well up to u on what to believe as i cant force u. The agents that called me have ready buyers. But i wasnt interested coz i know the value of good props can go even higher. AMINT, understand your concern but location are the key too. Perhaps your property location is good? Somemore the buyer still have to go through bank valuation and approval. Some of the agent highlight to me that there are not much of loan get through...so their bowl are empty most of the time even they find the deal. |
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Jun 5 2013, 04:29 PM
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Jun 5 2013, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Jun 5 2013, 04:35 PM) Not necessary. If price to high. I can still rent. If I feel that next year will have a property crash. You think it is still wise to buy even for own stay? If you were you, it will be not wise. But there are some unknown reason which can lead people to purchase something out from their budget. Such as pressure from internal relationship factor. But the % were low, therefore we can see the transaction drop since 2012 until now. I can't wait to see this quarter transaction data. Hopefully the data are valid and not "modified" |
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Jun 5 2013, 05:59 PM
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Jun 5 2013, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jun 5 2013, 05:59 PM) Sylar111 got crystal ball ka? Dont simply day 2014 oroperty will crash bro. Later tak jadi then die wor people hentam u. I also cannot guarantee when. Of course one day it will occur but not for the time being. Seriously, I still observing. Now Penang stopped to increase in price, but KL still rising I think. But we just need one zone bubble blow to trigger a chain effect. I don't think we should take lightly of any signal. Now I'm looking at Kuching, KL, Sabah too. |
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Jun 5 2013, 06:03 PM
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Interesting note from CIMB bank auction department...
"Looking to buy property? We've got more than 100 properties up for auction at the CIMB Property Mart Home Fiesta. Sign up as a member now as we're offering free consultation on the properties for auciton @ Hotel Istana KL, 8 June from 9am onwards." Last time where got so much of property on auction...hahaha... This post has been edited by Steven83: Jun 5 2013, 06:04 PM |
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Jun 5 2013, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jun 5 2013, 06:24 PM) I think when really crash, then we will see who is the true taikor that can just laugh while others will bleed. Most investors i know have reserves of a minimum of 1 year installment just in case. yes, the true taikor will always have reserves. They must have the holding power to do so without over leverage. |
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Jun 6 2013, 04:40 PM
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Jun 7 2013, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 7 2013, 10:07 AM) no need to susah susah pusing pusing. my reply:ask you a very direct question. only need to answer Y/N. - "Anytime is a good time to buy". Y or N? - "Properties prices will usually go up in the long-term". Y or N? - "The market cannot collapse because of demand from foreigners." Y or N? nvrm, i answer for you for this one. N - "Mickey mouse units are the trend of the future". Y or N? if not replying at all, nvrm. and may i suggest in order for people not to disturb you, you shall do the same. Newton's law "for every action there will be an equal and opposite reaction" - "Anytime is a good time to buy". Y or N? ans: Y, why no? As long you can afford and you need it, Why not? - "Properties prices will usually go up in the long-term". Y or N? ans: Yes...inflation, but healthy one. This time is not healthy at all. - "The market cannot collapse because of demand from foreigners." Y or N? ans: same as kochin, N. The demand (visible or true foreigner that really want to stay M2H) are very low. - "Mickey mouse units are the trend of the future". Y or N? ans: Y, as long people can afford the house. They will keep sell the unit smaller and smaller |
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Jun 7 2013, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 7 2013, 12:21 PM) my version: "Mickey mouse units are the trend of the future". I think this will 100% happens, SOHO is a good example of this. Even in other nation such as HK, China and Japan.....most of them stay in Mickey mouse unit. Because developer are profit taker, as long they can sell, they will do that. And the government will support that also, to ease their headace for increase in instability due to price inflation and poor governing policy. In fact this is what your government do...avoid the real cure and go for shortcuts.- "Anytime is a good time to buy". Y but with disclaimer. - "Properties prices will usually go up in the long-term". Y. Long term? Let's just pegged it at more than 10 years shall we and pls drop the inlfation or opporunity or whatever cost during those time line. And yes, thanks for noticing my revision of the word from always to usually. - "The market cannot collapse because of demand from foreigners." Obvious by now. - "Mickey mouse units are the trend of the future". Real rough call. mickey mouse is here because of demand or affordability? Chances are a bit of both and the line further distorted with blurring lines of affordability hence 'forcing' acceptance of these units. Given a choice, guess most would prefer something bigger. But need to train the mind to accept smaller units due to $$$ constraint lor. Just like the saying, "The xxx is the new yyy" eg. The 400k's are the new 300k's; the 800sf is the new 1000sf; Feel free to disagree..... This post has been edited by Steven83: Jun 7 2013, 12:52 PM |
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Jun 8 2013, 12:55 AM
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Jun 13 2013, 12:07 PM
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woah....so the war still going... find this photo best describe our property market states. Just receiving some oc obtained landed property and condo not yet sold out. Looks like developer is doing a good job of covering up unsold unit...
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Jun 13 2013, 12:13 PM
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Jun 17 2013, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(Yamma @ Jun 17 2013, 09:30 AM) on the rental side, better check with other units. the agent/owner might bluff you because their intention is just to sale the property. had experienced with this kind of trick. agent told me current rental at that time was 1,500 but when i figured it out, it was 1,200. when i raised this up the agent, he said that rental rate his mentioned earlier is the one i can charge after i bought the properties... yeah...don't trust agent. I have a few friend have bad experience with agent.how to trust agent? |
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