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post Jun 12 2013, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Jun 12 2013, 01:47 AM)
And I m the biggest critic of it. Holding it close to 6 months and never came out of being negative. At The moment -4%
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You're holding the Shariah version, they're different, managed by different fund manager.
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post Jun 12 2013, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(GottliebDaimler @ Jun 11 2013, 05:14 PM)
Is it ever too late to join the bandwagon on Kenanga Growth Fund? Why is this fund rock solid going up?
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You could always start by perusing their annual report, the underlying funds are usually outlined towards the end of the report. From there you can sorta gauge if the individual stock component is trading at an overvaluation or vice versa. When looking at P/E as a gauge, one has to compare it with its peers in the same industry/sector. Take into account also if the company has solid fundamentals moving forward, such as future earnings growth.
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post Jun 12 2013, 09:14 AM

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Pacific Global Stars Fund investors, latest Financial Statements is out:

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...rtsMYPMFGSF.pdf
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post Jun 12 2013, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(yenforyen @ Jun 12 2013, 08:49 AM)
You could always start by perusing their annual report, the underlying funds are usually outlined towards the end of the report. From there you can sorta gauge if the individual stock component is trading at an overvaluation or vice versa. When looking at P/E as a gauge, one has to compare it with its peers in the same industry/sector. Take into account also if the company has solid fundamentals moving forward, such as future earnings growth.
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But by the time the annual report is out, it's (the holdings listing) usually wayyyyyyy outdated. Like Pacific GSF's "latest" report, it's dated 31 March but only published yesterday tongue.gif
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post Jun 12 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 09:21 AM)
But by the time the annual report is out, it's (the holdings listing) usually wayyyyyyy outdated. Like Pacific GSF's "latest" report, it's dated 31 March but only published yesterday tongue.gif
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Yeah, but at least after you know the underlying stocks, then can track it against the current valuations. smile.gif

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post Jun 12 2013, 12:33 PM

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Hi, has anyone noticed that the value in "Cost" column in the holding screen is not accurate?
I recently switched out part of the units to another fund and I noticed the "Available Quantity" is correct but the "Cost" value is lower than what I calculated myself.

The "Cost" value of the fund I transferred to is correct though. So where did the missing amount go to?

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QUOTE(itsybitsy @ Jun 12 2013, 12:33 PM)
Hi, has anyone noticed that the value in "Cost" column in the holding screen is not accurate?
I recently switched out part of the units to another fund and I noticed the "Available Quantity" is correct but the "Cost" value is lower than what I calculated myself.

The "Cost" value of the fund I transferred to is correct though. So where did the missing amount go to?
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dunno, I never bothered with the cost column. I keep track of overall portfolio cost on my own, never bothered with cost of individual funds that I have.

If I'm not mistaken, they track by weighted average cost.

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post Jun 12 2013, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 01:24 PM)
dunno, I never bothered with the cost column. I keep track of overall portfolio cost on my own, never bothered with cost of individual funds that I have.

If I'm not mistaken, they track by weighted average cost.
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When I did my first purchase I thought the SC is charge on the total invested amount, and remaining amount is used to divide your NAV (of transaction day) to get your units. But how they do is they charge the SC on your NAV (of the transaction day) - added into it, and not deducted from your total invested amount. Just a different way of doing.

Not sure if this was what you were asking smile.gif
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jun 12 2013, 01:50 PM)
When I did my first purchase I thought the SC is charge on the total invested amount, and remaining amount is used to divide your NAV (of transaction day) to get your units. But how they do is they charge the SC on your NAV (of the transaction day) - added into it, and not deducted from your total invested amount. Just a different way of doing.

Not sure if this was what you were asking  smile.gif
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Yes, e.g. u buy in at RM1.0000, SC=2%, your weighted average cost per unit displayed would be RM1.0200 wink.gif
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post Jun 12 2013, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 01:51 PM)
Yes, e.g. u buy in at RM1.0000, SC=2%, your weighted average cost per unit displayed would be RM1.0200 wink.gif
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Yes, and the cost is still RM1,000 right?

And if I do a switch sell to another fund within the same fund company, say for RM460. The cost of this fund should be reduced to RM540?

Well, I do my own calculation in Excel and the values in the FSM table are correct for the rest of my funds, except for that one.

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QUOTE(itsybitsy @ Jun 12 2013, 02:27 PM)
Yes, and the cost is still RM1,000 right?

And if I do a switch sell to another fund within the same fund company, say for RM460. The cost of this fund should be reduced to RM540?

Well, I do my own calculation in Excel and the values in the FSM table are correct for the rest of my funds, except for that one.
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NO

Your cost would included the Sales Charge
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post Jun 12 2013, 02:51 PM

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I mean the "Cost" column in the FSM holding screen.

To me, cost is the cash money that I take out to buy units. It is already inclusive of SC because the number of units I received is after deduction of the SC.

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 02:28 PM)
NO

Your cost would included the Sales Charge
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post Jun 12 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(itsybitsy @ Jun 12 2013, 02:51 PM)
I mean the "Cost" column in the FSM holding screen.
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hmm.gif have you try using just the Net amount you transfer in?? net mean no deduct anything.
ex, if you transfer in RM 300, use the RM 300.
could it be that you used the different NAV value for your transfer? different from their values? 1 or 2 day got different.

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post Jun 12 2013, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 12 2013, 02:58 PM)
hmm.gif have you try using just the Net amount you transfer in?? net mean no deduct anything.
ex, if you transfer in RM 300, use the RM 300.
could it be that you used the different NAV value for your transfer? different from their values? 1 or 2 day got different.
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I don't think cost is affected by NAV. I'm using the nett amount.

When I first bought the fund, I saw the cost column reflects the amount I transfer-in, i.e. RM1,000. So, I assume that after I sell RM460 of the fund, the cost would be reduce to RM540.


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QUOTE(itsybitsy @ Jun 12 2013, 03:06 PM)
I don't think cost is affected by NAV. I'm using the nett amount.

When I first bought the fund, I saw the cost column reflects the amount I transfer-in, i.e. RM1,000. So, I assume that after I sell RM460 of the fund, the cost would be reduce to RM540.
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hmm.gif well, pls check with FSM and get back here to share experience. thks
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E.g.
NAV RM1.0000, SC=2%
Invested RM1,000
Units purchased=980.39 units
Weighted average cost per unit=RM1.0200
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post Jun 12 2013, 04:30 PM

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I have Fund A only, but I'd like to buy Fund B (that I don't have) using the part of the funds I have in Fund A.

Other than Fund B's SC, will there be other costs incurred? Fund A and B are from the same house (OSK-UOB).

I've sent a question to the CIS. But I have another question here tongue.gif

Can I apply the FSM 'trick' here?


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QUOTE(GottliebDaimler @ Jun 12 2013, 04:30 PM)
I have Fund A only, but I'd like to buy Fund B (that I don't have) using the part of the funds I have in Fund A.

Other than Fund B's SC, will there be other costs incurred? Fund A and B are from the same house (OSK-UOB).

I've sent a question to the CIS. But I have another question here tongue.gif

Can I apply the FSM 'trick' here?
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OSK-UOB intra switching will attract switching fee

It's obvious that u have not FULLY EXPLORED the site

Funds Info > Funds Sales Charges > Switching

Go read yourself vmad.gif
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post Jun 12 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 12 2013, 04:37 PM)
OSK-UOB intra switching will attract switching fee

It's obvious that u have not FULLY EXPLORED the site

Funds Info > Funds Sales Charges > Switching

Go read yourself vmad.gif
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Fund A is 1.5%, Fund B is 2%.
According to tier table, switching fee = Nil
According to each 'fun' fact sheet, switching fee = 25RM

Which rule to apply here?

This post has been edited by GottliebDaimler: Jun 12 2013, 05:04 PM

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