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 Fundsupermart.com v3, Manage your own unit trust portfolio

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post Jun 11 2013, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(jerrymax @ Jun 11 2013, 09:32 AM)
aw.. the I enter wrong timing?  cry.gif
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why, ur Quantum in red? Mine still healthily in black, IRR 50%+
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post Jun 11 2013, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jun 11 2013, 12:16 PM)
What is the new normal? Lower or higher? BTW, my profit so far at 60% with IRR at 10.03% as of June 1st 2013. Highest IRR is PFSF @ 17.5%, 1st invested in Nov 2004. But then I gain more from swithing out and in duing 2008-2009 meltdown than pure buy and hold play.
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I mean u should expect your IRR to drop going forward
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QUOTE(cheerz~ @ Jun 11 2013, 02:50 PM)
I contacted the Client Investment Specialist and filled up the assessment form. This is his recommendations for me.
What do you guys think?
Would it be difficult to keep track of so many funds in the first place? Roughly how many different funds do you keep normally?
Fixed Income                                              Region / Market             Suggested Allocation
AmBond                                                     Malaysia                        20%
Hwang Select Bond Fund                              Global (Asian Focus)       10%
OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond Fund         Emerging Markets          10%

Equity                                                                           Region / Market             Suggested Allocation
Pacific Global Stars Fund                                                 Global                          10%
CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund                                    Global                          10%
Eastspring Investments Asia Pacific Equity MY Fund            Asia ex-Japan              10%
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund              Asia ex-Japan              10%
Eastspring Investments Global Emerging Markets Fund       Emerging Markets        10%
Kenanga Growth Fund  Malaysia 10%
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8-10 funds about right lar IMHO

U can always start with 5-6

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jun 11 2013, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(foxxy @ Jun 11 2013, 03:54 PM)
I've contacted with Andy before. Now the problem lies with Maybank, which Maybank doesn't allow to do transfer. The only way is to dispose units at maybank and rebuy again at FSM, and nanti all those management fees mahu dibayar semula  rclxub.gif
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Talk to Eugene. I assure u that there is another way to do this.
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 11 2013, 04:53 PM)
bro - sell the donkey funds AND buy others from FSM at 0% NAV lar
"Transfer in" program
I did it with Public Mutual equity & bon funds (non existent in FSM)
+ will be doing the damned problematic EastSpring Investments' coz bleeding agent REFUSES to sign-off to allow the transfer

ie. i redeem from Pub Mut / EastSpring,
show proof to FSM,
FSM allows me to buy into equity/bond at same amount i redeemed at 0% NAV

Speak to your favorite investment advisor in FSM (Eugene, Andy, er.. no hot kuci mama though tongue.gif)
and cut a deal / get the process right.

(or did i miss something? it's "just a fund transfer" from a fund that doesn't exist in FSM right?)

Just a thought on possibilities notworthy.gif
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^ This
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QUOTE(GottliebDaimler @ Jun 11 2013, 05:14 PM)
Is it ever too late to join the bandwagon on Kenanga Growth Fund? Why is this fund rock solid going up?
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Don't think about the fund.

Think about Malaysian equities, do u still believe in its potential? Do u think that it's overvalued?

Always invest with this in mind - see the underlying market, NEVER the fund's NAV price or historical performance chart, they mean nothing to your investment decision-making.

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It baffles me that FSM STILL recommends Eastspring Investments Asia Pacific Equity MY, that fund has been an underperformer in its class both short and longer term doh.gif
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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Jun 12 2013, 01:47 AM)
And I m the biggest critic of it. Holding it close to 6 months and never came out of being negative. At The moment -4%
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You're holding the Shariah version, they're different, managed by different fund manager.
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post Jun 12 2013, 09:14 AM

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Pacific Global Stars Fund investors, latest Financial Statements is out:

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...rtsMYPMFGSF.pdf
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QUOTE(yenforyen @ Jun 12 2013, 08:49 AM)
You could always start by perusing their annual report, the underlying funds are usually outlined towards the end of the report. From there you can sorta gauge if the individual stock component is trading at an overvaluation or vice versa. When looking at P/E as a gauge, one has to compare it with its peers in the same industry/sector. Take into account also if the company has solid fundamentals moving forward, such as future earnings growth.
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But by the time the annual report is out, it's (the holdings listing) usually wayyyyyyy outdated. Like Pacific GSF's "latest" report, it's dated 31 March but only published yesterday tongue.gif
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QUOTE(itsybitsy @ Jun 12 2013, 12:33 PM)
Hi, has anyone noticed that the value in "Cost" column in the holding screen is not accurate?
I recently switched out part of the units to another fund and I noticed the "Available Quantity" is correct but the "Cost" value is lower than what I calculated myself.

The "Cost" value of the fund I transferred to is correct though. So where did the missing amount go to?
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dunno, I never bothered with the cost column. I keep track of overall portfolio cost on my own, never bothered with cost of individual funds that I have.

If I'm not mistaken, they track by weighted average cost.

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jun 12 2013, 01:50 PM)
When I did my first purchase I thought the SC is charge on the total invested amount, and remaining amount is used to divide your NAV (of transaction day) to get your units. But how they do is they charge the SC on your NAV (of the transaction day) - added into it, and not deducted from your total invested amount. Just a different way of doing.

Not sure if this was what you were asking  smile.gif
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Yes, e.g. u buy in at RM1.0000, SC=2%, your weighted average cost per unit displayed would be RM1.0200 wink.gif
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QUOTE(itsybitsy @ Jun 12 2013, 02:27 PM)
Yes, and the cost is still RM1,000 right?

And if I do a switch sell to another fund within the same fund company, say for RM460. The cost of this fund should be reduced to RM540?

Well, I do my own calculation in Excel and the values in the FSM table are correct for the rest of my funds, except for that one.
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NO

Your cost would included the Sales Charge
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post Jun 12 2013, 03:11 PM

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E.g.
NAV RM1.0000, SC=2%
Invested RM1,000
Units purchased=980.39 units
Weighted average cost per unit=RM1.0200
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QUOTE(GottliebDaimler @ Jun 12 2013, 04:30 PM)
I have Fund A only, but I'd like to buy Fund B (that I don't have) using the part of the funds I have in Fund A.

Other than Fund B's SC, will there be other costs incurred? Fund A and B are from the same house (OSK-UOB).

I've sent a question to the CIS. But I have another question here tongue.gif

Can I apply the FSM 'trick' here?
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OSK-UOB intra switching will attract switching fee

It's obvious that u have not FULLY EXPLORED the site

Funds Info > Funds Sales Charges > Switching

Go read yourself vmad.gif
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QUOTE(GottliebDaimler @ Jun 12 2013, 05:03 PM)
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Fund A is 1.5%, Fund B is 2%.
According to tier table, switching fee = Nil
According to each 'fun' fact sheet, switching fee = 25RM

Which rule to apply here?
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2% to 2% = RM25 switching fee
1.5% to 2% = Pay 0.5%

That's my understanding
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FSM publish their list of recommended funds once a year, yes nod.gif
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AmDynamic Bond kept my portfolio from sinking deep (again) sweat.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 12 2013, 10:11 PM)
Asian  and US bonds has been dropping like flies since last week lar...... interest rate did went up  already due to bond selldown.

A little bit late to the news.  tongue.gif
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Unker gark, time to switch portfolio to super bull mode? sad.gif

With the exception of AmDynamic Bond, ALL my bond and REIT funds IRR dropped to below 12-M FD rate oledy doh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 12 2013, 10:22 PM)
This time very funny... bond drop, equity drop, gold drop, reit drop....all due to qe pullback cause no more easy money.

So whats left to invest that does not need easy money? hmm.gif

But i think this drop might be temporary... to flush out all cheap credit which has inflated all asset class.

Now short term bonds A to AAA grade will be the safest, less than 3 years. Govt bond is a no no.
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That explains the resilience of AmDynamic Bond, corporate bonds, A to AA hmm.gif

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