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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 21 2013, 02:05 AM)
CIMB APDIF is mainly investing based on stock selection but I guess they'll focus on large cap more.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 21 2013, 12:59 AM)
1:1 is just convenient to monitor and review

If u risk-averse, better HSAO 2:1 HSAQ
If u adventurous, can HSAO 1:2 HSAO

Do bear in mind, what HSAQ can buy, HSAO also can buy
But HSAQ cannot buy everything that HSAO can buy

So, IMHO, better to keep 1:1, there may be times when even HSAO might even go put significant % in small-mid caps.
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That's why I actually wanted to go 2:1 (HSAO:HSAQ). But a bit conservative. A bit sick of conservative portfolio already.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 21 2013, 01:05 AM)
CIMB APDIF is mainly investing based on stock selection but I guess they'll focus on large cap more.
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Large cap + dividend stocks + POTENTIAL dividend stocks
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post Jul 21 2013, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 20 2013, 05:29 PM)
june fact sheet.
AGEF has US is 11.6% allocation
PGSF has US 16.7% allocation
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For this reason, I'll not be selling it. Need some US exposure. Unless of course; switch everything to AGEF. Decided to top up both HSAO and HSAQ, and use my existing fund in PGSF to top up AGEF.
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post Jul 21 2013, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jul 21 2013, 02:32 PM)
For this reason, I'll not be selling it. Need some US exposure. Unless of course; switch everything to AGEF. Decided to top up both HSAO and HSAQ, and use my existing fund in PGSF to top up AGEF.
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Changing mind ?
I was think to get some Global Fund to invest in PGSF or AGEF ? what do you think
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post Jul 21 2013, 10:22 PM

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I have global fund already - Aberdeen Islamic World Equity Fund - Class A

Don't know about its country allocation.
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post Jul 21 2013, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 21 2013, 10:22 PM)
I have global fund already - Aberdeen Islamic World Equity Fund - Class A

Don't know about its country allocation.
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How come r? you buy base on ?
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bcos until now no monthly fact sheet is published doh.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 21 2013, 10:25 PM)
bcos until now no monthly fact sheet is published doh.gif
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How about prospectus ? hmm... if not much reference you dare to buy r ?

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jul 21 2013, 10:12 PM)
Changing mind ?
I was think to get some Global Fund to invest in PGSF or AGEF ? what do you think
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From what I understand, PGSF takes a "value" approach to stock picking.

What does "value investing" mean? It means buying stocks that are trading at below their intrinsic value, i.e. buying good companies trading at attractive valuations.

But in this IT era of free-flowing information, when exactly can u achieve this? By the time u found out, many others would have done so too.

It usually occurs when a good company is in (short-term) trouble, e.g. a product did badly, production got some hiccup, sales growth were stagnant lately etc.

Putting this into context of PGSF, Pacific Mutual ("PM") would look to buy into good companies whose stocks got beaten down for some reasons, hence their recent overweight in Australian mining stocks and China H-shares. They do so believing that it's just a matter of time that the troubles will pass, these companies will realise their fair value.

So the questions now are,
WHEN WILL THE TROUBLE PASS?
CAN YOU WAIT IT OUT?

Food for thought to help with your selection process wink.gif
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jul 21 2013, 10:26 PM)
How about prospectus ? hmm... if not much reference you dare to buy r ?
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Aberdeen Islamic World Equity is a new fund, prospectus where will show its country allocation? doh.gif

Maybe u can get a rough indication of country allocation from its non-Shariah compliant Singapore-managed sister fund? hmm.gif

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post Jul 21 2013, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 21 2013, 10:37 PM)
From what I understand, PGSF takes a "value" approach to stock picking.

What does "value investing" mean? It means buying stocks that are trading at below their intrinsic value, i.e. buying good companies trading at attractive valuations.

But in this IT era of free-flowing information, when exactly can u achieve this? By the time u found out, many others would have done so too.

It usually occurs when a good company is in (short-term) trouble, e.g. a product did badly, production got some hiccup, sales growth were stagnant lately etc.

Putting this into context of PGSF, Pacific Mutual ("PM") would look to buy into good companies whose stocks got beaten down for some reasons, hence their recent overweight in Australian mining stocks and China H-shares. They do so believing that it's just a matter of time that the troubles will pass, these companies will realise their fair value.

So the questions now are,
WHEN WILL THE TROUBLE PASS?
CAN YOU WAIT IT OUT?

Food for thought to help with your selection process wink.gif
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thumbup.gif Good thought. Are you still carrying PGSF or yourself still waiting for the trouble pass ?
How about AGEF ?

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 21 2013, 10:39 PM)
Aberdeen Islamic World Equity is a new fund, prospectus where will show its country allocation? doh.gif

Maybe u can get a rough indication of country allocation from its non-Shariah compliant Singapore-managed sister fund? hmm.gif
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Not on my radar. Asking due to curiosity only.
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jul 21 2013, 10:43 PM)
thumbup.gif Good thought. Are you still carrying PGSF or yourself still waiting for the trouble pass ?
How about AGEF ?
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I combo PGSF with OSK-UOB Global Equity Yield, 12%:24%

I believe that dividend approach to investing would deliver the more predictable returns, hence the bigger allocation for OUGEYF. Putting a smaller allocation to bet on PGSF's stock-picking skills to buy undervalued stocks. icon_rolleyes.gif

Not holding AGEF at the moment. Happy with current portfolio.

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jul 21 2013, 10:12 PM)
Changing mind ?
I was think to get some Global Fund to invest in PGSF or AGEF ? what do you think
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I'm a bit bias. I would choose AGEF. AGEF is something I would hold for long term.

Cause before this PGSF fund sheet do not disclose their geographical invested area. But June it does. The reason I'm holding a bit longer is because I want their US exposure. I can always switch to AGEF since now have the 1% SC promo period, but my PGSF is still in a loss position of ~3%.

Because of that, I'm placing new capital into HSAO and HSAQ. So it will now deviate from my initial plan of switching PGSF funds into HSAO and HSAQ. No idea when I will buy in AGEF, but when I do I will not be holding PGSF anymore

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 21 2013, 10:37 PM)
From what I understand, PGSF takes a "value" approach to stock picking.

What does "value investing" mean? It means buying stocks that are trading at below their intrinsic value, i.e. buying good companies trading at attractive valuations.

But in this IT era of free-flowing information, when exactly can u achieve this? By the time u found out, many others would have done so too.

It usually occurs when a good company is in (short-term) trouble, e.g. a product did badly, production got some hiccup, sales growth were stagnant lately etc.

Putting this into context of PGSF, Pacific Mutual ("PM") would look to buy into good companies whose stocks got beaten down for some reasons, hence their recent overweight in Australian mining stocks and China H-shares. They do so believing that it's just a matter of time that the troubles will pass, these companies will realise their fair value.

So the questions now are,
WHEN WILL THE TROUBLE PASS?
CAN YOU WAIT IT OUT?

Food for thought to help with your selection process wink.gif
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U still thinking of holding PGSF for long term?

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jul 21 2013, 11:35 PM)
I'm a bit bias. I would choose AGEF. AGEF is something I would hold for long term.

Cause before this PGSF fund sheet do not disclose their geographical invested area. But June it does. The reason I'm holding a bit longer is because I want their US exposure. I can always switch to AGEF since now have the 1% SC promo period, but my PGSF is still in a loss position of ~3%.

Because of that, I'm placing new capital into HSAO and HSAQ. So it will now deviate from my initial plan of switching PGSF funds into HSAO and HSAQ. No idea when I will buy in AGEF, but when I do I will not be holding PGSF anymore

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How about maintaining PGSF as it is now waiting for the trouble pass while top up occasionally to VCA, and get some AGEF to combo your Global Equity Fund?
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 21 2013, 10:46 PM)
I combo PGSF with OSK-UOB Global Equity Yield, 12%:24%

I believe that dividend approach to investing would deliver the more predictable returns, hence the bigger allocation for OUGEYF. Putting a smaller allocation to bet on PGSF's stock-picking skills to buy undervalued stocks. icon_rolleyes.gif

Not holding AGEF at the moment. Happy with current portfolio.
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Global Equity Fund is on my radar as I don't have one, I am considering PGSF and AGEF hmm.gif.
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jul 21 2013, 11:35 PM)
I'm a bit bias. I would choose AGEF. AGEF is something I would hold for long term.

Cause before this PGSF fund sheet do not disclose their geographical invested area. But June it does. The reason I'm holding a bit longer is because I want their US exposure. I can always switch to AGEF since now have the 1% SC promo period, but my PGSF is still in a loss position of ~3%.
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Eh, u went direct to Pacific Mutual's website? FSM haven't uploaded June fact sheet blink.gif

QUOTE(TakoC @ Jul 21 2013, 11:38 PM)
U still thinking of holding PGSF for long term?
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Yes, gonna give it some more time, maybe when OSK-UOB GEYF kaboom (which I hope would not happen tongue.gif ) PGSF will take over to keep the ship afloat biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 21 2013, 11:50 PM)
Eh, u went direct to Pacific Mutual's website? FSM haven't uploaded June fact sheet blink.gif
Yes, gonna give it some more time, maybe when OSK-UOB GEYF kaboom (which I hope would not happen tongue.gif ) PGSF will take over to keep the ship afloat biggrin.gif
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Oaisky says got June fund sheet. I couldn't check this afternoon, FSM was having their maintenance. Maybe tomorrow I'll check it out.

I'm just gonna leave mine there. Without this I'm completely empty on US exposure sad.gif


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