Fundsupermart.com v3, Manage your own unit trust portfolio
Fundsupermart.com v3, Manage your own unit trust portfolio
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Jun 9 2013, 04:11 PM
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I think I know liao...picture taken live on Harian Metro and/or Buletin Utama
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Jun 9 2013, 04:22 PM
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Jun 9 2013, 04:44 PM
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Follow my stock picks lar, I also invest like Buffett
"Buy the business" "Do not buy a stock that u cannot imagine holding for years" "Buy only business that u understand" Not that hard to apply IMHO. I drink Carlsberg (like drink water), so I buy their stock I eat Ping Pong cream crackers as snack at office, so I buy their stock I smoke ciggies, so I buy ciggy stock. And I know which brands are selling well and which are not cos I spend a lot of time at kopi shop Just some examples This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jun 9 2013, 04:45 PM |
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Jun 9 2013, 04:49 PM
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Jun 9 2013, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 9 2013, 04:49 PM) at times, i think some are "forced' by upper hands (politically or Bigger bosses) to deviate. so it is always better to see their track records...it is not 100% but at least there are history...also must take note whether there are any change of mgmt Chen Fan Fai at Kenanga drove Kenanga Growth Fund to great heightsBut when he arrived at Eastspring Investments, EI Asia Pacific Shariah Equity become shitty How? Unker, explain pls |
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Jun 9 2013, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Jun 9 2013, 04:55 PM) Kenanga Islamic Fund also did ok wor 2. KGF is 100% Malaysia, EIAPSE is Asia Ex-Japan Conclusion - diff ppl, diff specialty Sorry Mr Chen for taking u as an example This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jun 9 2013, 04:58 PM |
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Jun 9 2013, 09:30 PM
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Jun 9 2013, 10:08 PM
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Guys, remember - Portfolio concept
U can NEVER have a portfolio of all winners, it just doesn't work that way. Even the best fund manager cannot boast of having a portfolio of all winners and no losers. |
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Jun 9 2013, 10:46 PM
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My worst loss also 10% only, on Alliance Global Equities (2009-10) and Hwang Global Property (2008) and I sold off all
But see how have they rallied since then This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jun 9 2013, 10:46 PM |
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Jun 9 2013, 11:04 PM
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1 strategy I can think of to deal with such volatile funds...maybe u guys can consider.
Let's say u foresee volatility/further losses ahead, BUT u still believe in its long-term potential. So, u sell/switch out some, make your holding of the fund RELATIVELY small for u. E.g. u used to hold RM5,000, and your monthly cash available for investment is RM500. So, u sell until left maybe RM2,000. Then, as the fund drops, u do DCA to lower your cost per unit. The smaller your monthly top up, the smaller your initial holding has to be. Otherwise topping up won't lower your cost/unit much. Don't wait until u loss 25% or so, unless u got the ammo to buy in loads. So, perhaps it'd be a good idea like kabal82 to switch out some |
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Jun 10 2013, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(d_scientist @ Jun 10 2013, 10:15 AM) hi guys, just discovered FSM! Have cashed out some investment from PM and didnt want to reinvest there cos returns are not so high, yearly they suck ur money and the initial 5.5% is a pain! 1. Recommended Fundsanyway, any good funds to actuyally buy here? many thanks 2. Recommended Portfolios 3. Funds Selector > search for funds with higher Sharpe and Risk-Return ratios 4. Talk to their Client Investment Specialist 5. Discuss with us here QUOTE(gark @ Jun 10 2013, 10:17 AM) Why cut loss... should you buy more.. isn't that what portfolio balancing is about. If you cut loss you are timing the market. and most market timers do not fare well. Most of the time, the market bounced back when most retail investors cannot take it anymore and cut loss....thats where bull markets are born. Winners will eventually fall back, losers will eventually bounce back This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jun 10 2013, 10:18 AM |
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Jun 10 2013, 10:19 AM
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Jun 10 2013, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(d_scientist @ Jun 10 2013, 10:22 AM) I've always said this, and will say this again.Invest in a portfolio, don't invest in funds Chances are u won't have a portfolio of all winners and no losers, build a portfolio, diversify and hedge. Now go digest my words |
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Jun 10 2013, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(d_scientist @ Jun 10 2013, 10:30 AM) thanks! Study also the Recommended Portfolios of FSM Singapore.Never been good at this so will digest the portfolio that they recommend. seems like the conservative on long run make money... but i guess the aggressive one must monitor n not keep it on autopilot I know u cannot buy the funds that they have there, but learn how they construct and manage a portfolio. FSM Singapore's RPs are better constructed and managed than FSM Malaysia's. I won't spoonfeed u and tell u exactly why, go study and find out yourself. P.S. - Over the long-term, a Balanced portfolio would beat a Conservative portfolio. This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jun 10 2013, 10:33 AM |
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Jun 10 2013, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jun 10 2013, 10:37 AM) I support the theory that whatever go up will go down and vice versa. But the question is ever over how long period, and you will never know when it hit rock bottom. For me, I'd sell or suspend topping up on the winners, and switch ammo on the losers. I won't sailang on the losers outright, as u won't know when it will bottom, right? What if u ran out of ammo before it bottom? I will monitor closely at PGSF. They took a chance at Asia market, so we'll see how it goes. Was planning to enter into a MY equity, but it's bull is slowly down (or even over), so I think I'll invest in a Asia large cap. Do share your point of view ^ Unker gark said it well This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jun 10 2013, 10:42 AM |
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Jun 10 2013, 10:47 AM
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Jun 10 2013, 10:49 AM
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Jun 10 2013, 10:53 AM
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Jun 10 2013, 10:54 AM
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Having sifu Unker gark in the thread is truly refreshing and educational
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Jun 10 2013, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 10 2013, 10:59 AM) Sell most bond winners and move to worst performing equity.. because bond went up during the period and equity dropped. Why you want to put in best performer? Pink Spider Please give these people the portfolio balancing theory lesson? Always start with a Target Allocation e.g. 50% equity, within which 10% Malaysia, 10% Asia Ex-Japan, 30% global + 50% bond If equity dropped, e.g. to 40% of your portfolio Malaysia become 9%, Asia Ex-Japan 7%, global 24% U take out money from bond to top up on equity funds to make it become 50% equity, within which 10% Malaysia, 10% Asia Ex-Japan, 30% global + 50% bond again I.e. u will top up most on global, a bit on Asia Ex-Japan and a little bit on Malaysia That's the basic. This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jun 10 2013, 11:03 AM |
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