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post Jun 5 2013, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jun 5 2013, 10:53 AM)
Tarak lar. Usually is under Other Performance Data column one.
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FUND PERFORMANCE (BID-TO-BID ANNUALIZED RETURNS)

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post Jun 5 2013, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jun 5 2013, 10:58 AM)
1 year  2 year  3 year      5 year
11.1    8.6  10.4  9.4

So 2012 it's 11.1, 2011 is calculated as 11.1 - 8.6 = 2%+? I believe not.
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U understand the concept of ANNUALISED RETURN or not? doh.gif

Means
from 03-Jun-12 to 03-Jun-13: +11.1%
from 03-Jun-11 to 03-Jun-13: +8.6% PER ANNUM
from 03-Jun-10 to 03-Jun-13: +10.4% PER ANNUM
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 5 2013, 11:34 AM)
mad.gif now cannot clearly see the up and down of my FSM asset performance...cos recently a few of my Hwang's funds had announced dividend...the total units are still not reflected...only the NAV prices are reflected....thus alot are on the "RED" ... grumble.gif
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units entitled for distribution x net dividend rate / NAV price on ex-date (usually) = units receivable from distribution

sendiri calculate tongue.gif

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post Jun 5 2013, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 5 2013, 11:41 AM)
i got used to after login in to FSM...can see a some "RED",...Now ALL "RED"....then mentally hv to say,.oh..maybe it is dividend. Guess too many Hwang in there
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Take the net, ignore the gross

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post Jun 5 2013, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Jun 5 2013, 01:11 PM)
I never really understood the conecept of annualised return. Can you explain as per below?

Suppose Fund A makes  10 %  in 2012
                           makes -2 %   in 2011
                           makes 13 % in 2010
                                       5 %  in 2009

How to annualise above?
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Easy, just start with 100

2009: 100 x (1 + 0.05) = 105
2010: 105 x (1 + 0.13) = 118.65
2011: 118.65 x (1 - 0.02) = 116.277
2012: 116.277 x (1 + 0.10) = 127.9047

Take
(127.9047 / 100) ^ (1 / 4) - 1 = 6.3461%

127.9047 = end value
100 = beginning value
2009 to 2012 = 4 years

In this example, 6.3461% is the 4 years annualised return

There may be easier way to calculate, but this way I can explain to u the mechanism. smile.gif

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post Jun 5 2013, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jun 5 2013, 01:20 PM)
if im not wrong, annualised as in on average / year.

for your example, if +10 -2 / 2 years = +4% annualised for that 2 years.. is that right?
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Try use my example above to calculate the 2 years annualised return...I bet you will get a different result icon_idea.gif

Annualised return takes into account compounding.

Annualised return =/= Average return

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QUOTE(yenforyen @ Jun 5 2013, 02:38 PM)
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 5 2013, 04:12 PM)
what is ^?
my calculator dun hv this function..
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^ is "kuasa"
e.g. 3^3=9

^(1/3) is "punca kuasa"
e.g. 9^(1/3)=3
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post Jun 5 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 5 2013, 04:21 PM)
normal desktop calculator how to use? "power" or 'Power source"? kuasa/punca kuasa
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normal calculator...for "^" e.g. 3^3, I'll press

3
x
3
=
=

Oops btw, 3^3 answer is 27, not 9. paiseh paiseh tongue.gif
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post Jun 5 2013, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 5 2013, 04:24 PM)
Pink, you wanna add this pic to the 1st post?
i think this looks like a repetitive questions to many people that are new. you can refer them to your 1st posting.

and also to include the coconut grow/drop and sell analogy. ha-ha
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Done.

That coconut thingy...don't need lar, repeating it for laughs once in a while ok what? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yenforyen @ Jun 5 2013, 04:31 PM)
Whoa now my chart is immortalized on the first post itself lol
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 5 2013, 04:40 PM)
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127.9047/100=1.279047
1/4=0.25

1.279047^0.25 - 1 = 6.3461% (yr provided ans)

calculator how to you??
pls excuse my poor math...
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scientific calculator only can calculate ^(1/4)
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QUOTE(mlyuki @ Jun 6 2013, 10:03 AM)
Hi guys, any recommendation fund for epf investment? I plan to take out Acc1 to do VCA, most likely pick a good equity fund.
Thx.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 6 2013, 10:35 AM)
my new a/c opening benefits ending today, thought of taking the last plunge into OSK-UOB Emerging Opportunity Unit Trust....
with current mkt situation... what you think?
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US maybe still got further leg, but doubt so for Bursa MY. Even Singapore stocks are more attractive now.
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jun 7 2013, 07:27 AM)
For those that did the transfer in of funds from bank to FSM, did you guys paid RM50 transfer fee?

I'm not sure if it's the bank who is charging or FSM. So reluctant to pay.
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jun 7 2013, 10:34 AM)
FSM says they will absorb the cost for me. Now have to deal with the bank side  yawn.gif
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QUOTE(ZH888 @ Jun 7 2013, 12:10 PM)
I think TakoC is mentioned about the transfer " unit trust FUND " not transfer " monies (FUND) " lol cool2.gif
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The process:
1) Sell all funds
2) Remit the proceeds to FSM bank account

Why would it need RM50??? shakehead.gif

QUOTE(TakoC @ Jun 7 2013, 12:44 PM)
PGSF -2% in 1 day. Sigh.
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My holding in EI GEM IRR dropped from 4%+ to less than 1% now laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jun 7 2013, 02:01 PM)
apu today dropped like shit sad.gif
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jun 7 2013, 02:26 PM)
sorry sarawak bumi say apu is like aduh biggrin.gif i am sarawakian haha.. this few days market not good.. i wanna ask la, if market keep dropping, u guys will exit?
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