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TSdj_msk
post May 26 2013, 07:13 PM, updated 13y ago

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Hi guys. i wonder if my pc spec,

Pentium D 3.0
4GB ram
Nvdia Geforce 8400 GS

i wonder if i upgrade only my graphic card, can i set a better graphic resolution ? not nessesary to be extreme high graphic performance but at least mid range.

if yes, any recommended graphic card?
DuskBin.Marksman
post May 26 2013, 09:27 PM

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SC2 has more demand in respect to CPU. I would focus on that first.

My obsolete in the market now GT230 was entirely capable of supporting medium low. Probably a card range of RM200-300 should be capable just fine.

My 2 cents.
TSdj_msk
post May 26 2013, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(DuskBin.Marksman @ May 26 2013, 09:27 PM)
SC2 has more demand in respect to CPU. I would focus on that first.

My obsolete in the market now GT230 was entirely capable of supporting medium low. Probably a card range of RM200-300 should be capable just fine.

My 2 cents.
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you are using pentium d? or better processor?

if i change my graphic card will the game play smooth if i set the graphic to at least mid low??
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post May 26 2013, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(dj_msk @ May 26 2013, 10:15 PM)
you are using pentium d? or better processor?

if i change my graphic card will the game play smooth if i set the graphic to at least mid low??
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u need more power if u want to play smooth at low or medium.
smooth is like when big battle happen you dont want it to be bottle neck and cost you the game.
A lot of korean actually set their graphics to low to avoid that, eventhough they got better cpu and graphic card.
TSdj_msk
post May 27 2013, 10:27 AM

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Means gpu has no help in the game play performance when we set the graphic higher, right? Cause at the moment my game play might lag/pause for a few seconds halfway in the game. That Time i was Wondering is it the gpu or cpu problem

All the setting at lowest
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post May 27 2013, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(dj_msk @ May 27 2013, 10:27 AM)
Means gpu has no help in the game play performance when we set the graphic higher, right?  Cause at the moment my game play might lag/pause for a few seconds halfway in the game. That Time i was Wondering is it the gpu or cpu problem

All the setting at lowest
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gpu of course have impact on graphic at higher lvl fps wise.

example, low settings you could achieve 150fps
medium 90 fps
high 60-70fps
ultra 55fps.

the more fps the better.
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post May 27 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(dj_msk @ May 26 2013, 10:15 PM)
you are using pentium d? or better processor?

if i change my graphic card will the game play smooth if i set the graphic to at least mid low??
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I am using I5 Processor, first generation.

I am using Radeon 7750 (a low spec RM230 card) as my GPU

I get about 120 FPS and dropping (as reach unit max combat etc)

My graphic settings are mostly low but with medium shaders. This is because I want a lot of FPS for streaming and smoothness over graphics ;s.

This post has been edited by DuskBin.Marksman: May 27 2013, 11:55 AM
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post May 27 2013, 01:39 PM

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choose wisely if you want to upgrade the gpu, you dont want bottle neck to be happened on your pc
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post May 28 2013, 10:49 AM

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You have a processor that's at least 5 years old and a video card that's at least 4 years old.

Theoretically, a better video card will give you better framerates and visuals. Unfortunately, your Pentium D processor is a bottleneck. Granted it is a dual core chip, it is only slightly better than the Pentium 4 chips that came before it. Its L2 cache of 1MB could only do so much for a game like HotS.

After a decent video card upgrade (say GT4xx series), I say you'd be lucky to get 30FPS at mid settings in the first 6 to 10 minutes of a multiplayer game. Then you'd be on the losing end of a late game 200/200 battle.
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post May 29 2013, 06:36 PM

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Should I upgrade my processor as well? If yes, any recommended processor? Which sit my current board?
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post May 29 2013, 06:39 PM

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should AMD FX-4100 Quad-Core + 580 GT be enuf to run SC2 on extreme?
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post May 29 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(dj_msk @ May 29 2013, 06:36 PM)
Should I upgrade my processor as well? If yes, any recommended processor? Which sit my current board?
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The best you could go is the 3 year old Core 2 Quad processor. I doubt you'd be able to find this or any of the compatible processors for the LGA 775 chipset nowadays. Just save up for a new desktop, you'd be wasting your time and money for 3 year old parts that are still not up to par with what is currently being offered in the market today. There are decent i5 packages, just take a walk around Lowyat or Digimall.
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post May 30 2013, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 29 2013, 06:39 PM)
should AMD FX-4100 Quad-Core + 580 GT be enuf to run SC2 on extreme?
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Seriously, why?

First look, I can barely tell the difference between Ultra and Extreme. But reading through other threads, I found out that the ONLY difference between Ultra and Extreme is Ambient Occlusion (aka, refined shadows). This effect reduces your FPS by 30%.

But to seriously answer your question, you have a 2-year old processor with a 3 year old video card. With a decent amount of RAM and a good cooling system, you might be able to get 60FPS on Ultra. Then, if you go up to Extreme, factoring in the 30% FPS hit brought by the Ambient Occlusion, you're left with 42FPS. Not much room to work with when you get to 200/200 battles. Running two GTX580 cards on SLI would give you more than 80% performance increase (almost 100% in some cases). But, of course, you have to have 2 GTX580 cards and a compatible motherboard.
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post May 30 2013, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(EnTaroAdun23 @ May 30 2013, 12:17 AM)
Seriously, why?

First look, I can barely tell the difference between Ultra and Extreme.  But reading through other threads, I found out that the ONLY difference between Ultra and Extreme is Ambient Occlusion (aka, refined shadows).  This effect reduces your FPS by 30%.

But to seriously answer your question, you have a 2-year old processor with a 3 year old video card.  With a decent amount of RAM and a good cooling system, you might be able to get 60FPS on Ultra.  Then, if you go up to Extreme, factoring in the 30% FPS hit brought by the Ambient Occlusion, you're left with 42FPS.  Not much room to work with when you get to 200/200 battles.  Running two GTX580 cards on SLI would give you more than 80% performance increase (almost 100% in some cases).  But, of course, you have to have 2 GTX580 cards and a compatible motherboard.
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4 Gig ram btw...

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http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1461/9/

works quite well on WOL but can hardly find benchmark/review on HoTs
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post May 30 2013, 03:04 AM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 30 2013, 02:53 AM)
works quite well on WOL but can hardly find benchmark/review on HoTs
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i think that is your problem
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post May 30 2013, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 30 2013, 03:04 AM)
i think that is your problem
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how come not much benchmarking on HotS?

What GPU are you on?

This post has been edited by fujkenasai: May 30 2013, 03:12 AM
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post May 30 2013, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 30 2013, 03:10 AM)
how come not much benchmarking on HotS?

What GPU are you on?
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random google, 2nd result:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/StarCraft-II-...ed.89920.0.html

im still on my 7 year old pc, 8800 ultra
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post May 30 2013, 03:50 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 30 2013, 03:13 AM)
random google, 2nd result:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/StarCraft-II-...ed.89920.0.html

im still on my 7 year old pc, 8800 ultra
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wow what settings do you play your games on wow.

well on that like that you gave there were no graphic cards older than the 600 generation sad.gif
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post May 30 2013, 04:07 AM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ May 30 2013, 03:50 AM)
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wow what settings do you play your games on wow.

well on that like that you gave there were no graphic cards older than the 600 generation sad.gif
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medium/high mix lol

go upgrade 600 generation then tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post May 30 2013, 05:29 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 30 2013, 04:07 AM)
medium/high mix lol

go upgrade 600 generation then tongue.gif tongue.gif
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700 is out y bother with 600 unless titan which I can get my dream camera with it XP

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