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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 11:00 AM, updated 13y ago
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Good morning guys , I post this topic on this forum because i have few question want to ask you guys ~ Currently i am using AMD 960 T with sapphire 7870 xt ~ THe game which i currently playing are crysis 3 and metro last night I can feel the lagging when i playing the game ~ however i just set the graphic in HIGH setting So should i overclock my graphic card ?? anyway sorry for my bad english
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wesley1987
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May 22 2013, 11:20 AM
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amd 960 processor?! is it phenom II that 1?!
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(wesley1987 @ May 22 2013, 11:20 AM) amd 960 processor?! is it phenom II that 1?! IT is AMD Phenom II X4 960T sorry not mention the full model
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wesley1987
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May 22 2013, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 11:21 AM) IT is AMD Phenom II X4 960T sorry not mention the full model  direct change GC ad done~XD
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 11:29 AM
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Recently just bought the 7870 xt ~ now want to change again ~~
nononononono xD
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wesley1987
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May 22 2013, 11:33 AM
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so at that time y u do buy 7870 and not go to 7970~@@
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(wesley1987 @ May 22 2013, 11:33 AM) so at that time y u do buy 7870 and not go to 7970~@@ The answer is very simple ~ i am just a student so i don't have sufficient money to buy a high end graphic card This post has been edited by munlok30: May 22 2013, 11:35 AM
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azilazwa
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May 22 2013, 12:02 PM
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all setting in the game u set high? ur resolution 1920 x 1080?
i just bought 7870xt, and i'm using phenomII 555 (unlock to 4 core and oc at 3.6ghz). now i'm worried if my pc will lag too when playing games..
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(azilazwa @ May 22 2013, 12:02 PM) all setting in the game u set high? ur resolution 1920 x 1080? i just bought 7870xt, and i'm using phenomII 555 (unlock to 4 core and oc at 3.6ghz). now i'm worried if my pc will lag too when playing games.. yes sir ~ most of the game i set high setting because i thought this graphic card can support but the way my resolution is just 1600 x 900 [ 20 inch monitor only ] very soon will buy a 24 inch why not you test sir and tell me the result ~ i can feel the power of of lagging when i playing metro last night
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(ccboy @ May 22 2013, 12:06 PM) i tried crysis 3 in high setting 1920x1080 reso with 7870xt..doesnt feel lag at all or it just myself?  Sound weird ~~ i can feel the lagging bro~ anyway i also disable the AA for better framerate ~ but i ON AF
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chocobo7779
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May 22 2013, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 11:00 AM) Good morning guys , I post this topic on this forum because i have few question want to ask you guys ~ Currently i am using AMD 960 T with sapphire 7870 xt ~ THe game which i currently playing are crysis 3 and metro last night I can feel the lagging when i playing the game ~ however i just set the graphic in HIGH setting So should i overclock my graphic card ?? anyway sorry for my bad english  Crysis 3 is not just a GPU-demanding game. It's quite CPU demanding as well. Try overclocking your CPU first. You can monitor the in game CPU usage as well, and if the CPU usage hits 100% constantly, your CPU might be the bottleneck.
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wesley1987
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May 22 2013, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 11:34 AM) The answer is very simple ~ i am just a student so i don't have sufficient money to buy a high end graphic card  ==“ 7870 also can quote be high end card~zzz
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chocobo7779
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May 22 2013, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(ccboy @ May 22 2013, 12:13 PM) may i know ur pc full spec?  Specs is in my siggy.
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ May 22 2013, 12:17 PM) Specs is in my siggy.  Kingston HyperX 8GB 1600 Mhz sapphire 7870 xt AMD Phenom II X4 960T Black Edition I am just a small gamer hope you guys don't laugh mee
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ May 22 2013, 12:13 PM) Crysis 3 is not just a GPU-demanding game. It's quite CPU demanding as well. Try overclocking your CPU first. You can monitor the in game CPU usage as well, and if the CPU usage hits 100% constantly, your CPU might be the bottleneck. I have a question to ask sir ~ Is that mean crysis 3 performance is base on CPU not GPU
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azilazwa
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May 22 2013, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:06 PM) yes sir ~ most of the game i set high setting because i thought this graphic card can support but the way my resolution is just 1600 x 900 [ 20 inch monitor only ] very soon will buy a 24 inch why not you test sir and tell me the result ~ i can feel the power of of lagging when i playing metro last night my card is on the way. just bought it from hikari85 yesterday, maybe tomoro i will receive it. later can test. i tot 7870xt consider quite good oredi, since it is using tahiti core (iinm la). hmm
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ccboy
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May 22 2013, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(azilazwa @ May 22 2013, 12:23 PM) my card is on the way. just bought it from hikari85 yesterday, maybe tomoro i will receive it. later can test. i tot 7870xt consider quite good oredi, since it is using tahiti core (iinm la). hmm yes..it is a good card  best bang for your buck but still for the game that require graphic hunger, this card will suffer abit la
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(azilazwa @ May 22 2013, 12:23 PM) my card is on the way. just bought it from hikari85 yesterday, maybe tomoro i will receive it. later can test. i tot 7870xt consider quite good oredi, since it is using tahiti core (iinm la). hmm ok~~ after you test remember to tell me the results~~ just the little big lagging and not very obvious but you still can feel the lagging itself
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azilazwa
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May 22 2013, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(ccboy @ May 22 2013, 12:27 PM) yes..it is a good card  best bang for your buck but still for the game that require graphic hunger, this card will suffer abit la  that's what i heard too. best bang for the buck card (7870xt). anyways, ts pc spec is higher than mine, so i guess i will suffer this too. haiz
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hmwgbworld
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May 22 2013, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:22 PM) I have a question to ask sir ~ Is that mean crysis 3 performance is base on CPU not GPU  Do read and understand his statement before asking the same question again. Crysis 3 is both cpu and gpu demanding. Try follow the steps he provided by monitoring your cpu usage during gaming to see if it reach 100% or close to that. It might be a bottleneck issue that cause your gpu not operate at full potential.
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chocobo7779
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May 22 2013, 12:33 PM
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Oh, BTW did you install the latest AMD graphics driver?
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ezmeer94
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May 22 2013, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:20 PM) Kingston HyperX 8GB 1600 Mhz sapphire 7870 xt AMD Phenom II X4 960T Black Edition I am just a small gamer hope you guys don't laugh mee  dude i think your cpu is bottlenecking your GPU bro the 7870XT is almost comparable to 7950 and can be overclocked to 7950 level performance no sweat
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ May 22 2013, 12:30 PM) Do read and understand his statement before asking the same question again. Crysis 3 is both cpu and gpu demanding. Try follow the steps he provided by monitoring your cpu usage during gaming to see if it reach 100% or close to that. It might be a bottleneck issue that cause your gpu not operate at full potential. okok i understand sir ~~ I open tast manager and see my CPU usage it doesn't hit 100 % anyway sir ~ how about metro last night ???
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ May 22 2013, 12:33 PM) Oh, BTW did you install the latest AMD graphics driver?  yes boss ~ i am using latest AMD graphic driver right now
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ May 22 2013, 12:41 PM) dude i think your cpu is bottlenecking your GPU bro the 7870XT is almost comparable to 7950 and can be overclocked to 7950 level performance no sweat Hi ezmeer ~ Is that mean i have to change my CPU As i know quad core i enough for gaming ~ correct me if i am wrong
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rav3n82
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May 22 2013, 12:47 PM
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I have tested the HD 7870 XT on Crysis 3. I can play at Very High settings and FXAA. Using Fraps to measure the frame rates, I only get around 33 FPS only. Gameplay is still considered marginally smooth for me, no lagging. And yes, Crysis 3 is really dependent on your CPU too. See the graph below. Generally, Core i3 and below is bottlenecking a GTX 680 already. More read here.
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alfiejr
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May 22 2013, 12:51 PM
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Me also have 7870xt (bought it last week) and it looks good. Playing Star Craft 2, Metro 2033, Fallout New Vegas, Warhammer 40k all in high setting no problem. Will try Skyrim, Metro LL and Company of Heroes 2 in the coming weeks
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 22 2013, 12:47 PM) I have tested the HD 7870 XT on Crysis 3. I can play at Very High settings and FXAA. Using Fraps to measure the frame rates, I only get around 33 FPS only. Gameplay is still considered marginally smooth for me, no lagging. And yes, Crysis 3 is really dependent on your CPU too. See the graph below. Generally, Core i3 and below is bottlenecking a GTX 680 already. More read here.  Thank you for your extra info for making me more understanding ~~ So if i want a higher FPS then i should change a more powerful CPU
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alfiejr
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May 22 2013, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:51 PM) Thank you for your extra info for making me more understanding ~~ So if i want a higher FPS then i should change a more powerful CPU  Switch to intel then bro
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storm88
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May 22 2013, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 01:46 PM) Hi ezmeer ~ Is that mean i have to change my CPU As i know quad core i enough for gaming ~ correct me if i am wrong  i object so. 960T is an unlockable processor and it's perform quite very well. The cpu might perform slower than any other i5 or FXs but it's still a good processor. Why dump it off for an improvement of few frames?
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ May 22 2013, 12:53 PM) Switch to intel then bro  What >.< !! I thought AMD processor + AMD graphic card is always better This is what the vendor recommend me
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ezmeer94
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May 22 2013, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:54 PM) What >.< !! I thought AMD processor + AMD graphic card is always better This is what the vendor recommend me  actually it doesnt even matter
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ezmeer94
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May 22 2013, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:46 PM) Hi ezmeer ~ Is that mean i have to change my CPU As i know quad core i enough for gaming ~ correct me if i am wrong  try overclocking it bro  and buy a new aftermarket cooler at a cheap price else make a switch to intel
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ May 22 2013, 12:58 PM) try overclocking it bro  and buy a new aftermarket cooler at a cheap price else make a switch to intel  Yes ~ i just overclock my processor a bit but it seem no different xD ~ i am using cooler master hyper 212 evo ~
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rav3n82
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May 22 2013, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:51 PM) Thank you for your extra info for making me more understanding ~~ So if i want a higher FPS then i should change a more powerful CPU  First, try to OC your processor. Phenoms are generally known to be good overclockers. You should be able to minimize some of the bottleneck by doing so. Also, bear in mind that there is certain limit on how much FPS you can get from the HD 7870 XT. FYI, the HD 7870 LE inside the graph is the same as 7870 XT.
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ezmeer94
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May 22 2013, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 01:04 PM) Yes ~ i just overclock my processor a bit but it seem no different xD ~ i am using cooler master hyper 212 evo ~Â  hmmm overclock the card to 1200mhz that will give u hd7950 level performance but crysis 3 is a gpu and cpu killer even my i7 3770k with gtx680 suffers a bit This post has been edited by ezmeer94: May 22 2013, 01:07 PM
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ May 22 2013, 01:06 PM) hmmm overclock the card to 1200mhz that will give u hd7950 level performance but crysis 3 is a gpu and cpu killer even my i7 3770k with gtx680 suffers a bit You must be kidding sir ~~ Your processor and your graphic card is good enough for gaming compare with MINE
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ezmeer94
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May 22 2013, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 01:11 PM) You must be kidding sir ~~ Your processor and your graphic card is good enough for gaming compare with MINE  it also takes quite a hit with all eye candy turned on at 1920x1200 btw ill test crysis 3 with my htpc that have 7870xt gpu ill let u know
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 22 2013, 01:05 PM) First, try to OC your processor. Phenoms are generally known to be good overclockers. You should be able to minimize some of the bottleneck by doing so. Also, bear in mind that there is certain limit on how much FPS you can get from the HD 7870 XT. FYI, the HD 7870 LE inside the graph is the same as 7870 XT.  okies sir ~~ I just try to overclock my processor from 3.0 GHZ to 3.4 GHZ ~ However the lagging is become lesser but i still can feel the lagging ~ Especially when they are a lot MONSTER coming out
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Prothero
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May 22 2013, 01:18 PM
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Hi bro,
I am user of 7870XT + FX 6300 @ 4.0 GHZ, but the graphic card did not overclock. Same with me when I play Far Cry 3 max settings, it lag a bit. I know that feeling when the game lags haha. Dont know why it lags, I thought its enuff already..
Anyone have the link for latest AMD catalyst + driver for 7870XT?
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ezmeer94
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May 22 2013, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(Prothero @ May 22 2013, 01:18 PM) Hi bro, I am user of 7870XT + FX 6300 @ 4.0 GHZ, but the graphic card did not overclock. Same with me when I play Far Cry 3 max settings, it lag a bit. I know that feeling when the game lags haha. Dont know why it lags, I thought its enuff already.. Anyone have the link for latest AMD catalyst + driver for 7870XT? Go to and site and download the beta driver
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(Prothero @ May 22 2013, 01:18 PM) Hi bro, I am user of 7870XT + FX 6300 @ 4.0 GHZ, but the graphic card did not overclock. Same with me when I play Far Cry 3 max settings, it lag a bit. I know that feeling when the game lags haha. Dont know why it lags, I thought its enuff already.. Anyone have the link for latest AMD catalyst + driver for 7870XT? Glad to hear that you facing the same problem with me~ Anyway your processor is better than mine a lot xD
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ May 22 2013, 01:14 PM) it also takes quite a hit with all eye candy turned on at 1920x1200 btw ill test crysis 3 with my htpc that have 7870xt gpu ill let u know okies sir ~~ i will wait for your reply
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marfccy
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May 22 2013, 04:11 PM
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Metro LL is not a very optimised game for AMD cards atm
wait till their next drivers roll out, that should fix the lagging problems
people with HD7970 still complaining of massive lag on Metro LL btw
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 22 2013, 04:11 PM) Metro LL is not a very optimised game for AMD cards atm wait till their next drivers roll out, that should fix the lagging problems people with HD7970 still complaining of massive lag on Metro LL btw Thank you for ur info sir ~~ Then i should wait for the next update then only play Metro LL BTW ~ overclock-ing processor really help a lot to reduce the lagging This post has been edited by munlok30: May 22 2013, 04:15 PM
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marfccy
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May 22 2013, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 04:14 PM) Thank you for ur info sir ~~ Then i should wait for the next update then only play Metro LL BTW ~ overclock-ing processor really help a lot to reduce the lagging  OCing processor does helps just that whether by a huge margin or small margin only
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(s3iryu @ May 22 2013, 05:22 PM) After reading u using feel to detect lag, try using FRAPS to measure your frames per second, more accurate  Thank you for ur suggestion ~ i will try to use FRAPS later to test ~
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ezmeer94
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May 22 2013, 08:49 PM
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Hi there yes I just tried i3-2120 + 7870xt = not bad but lag a bit And i5-3570k + 7870xt same thing And btw the starting scene where it rains heavily also lags a bit :/ so yea But both tested at 1920x1200 not 1600x900
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ May 22 2013, 08:49 PM) Hi there yes I just tried i3-2120 + 7870xt = not bad but lag a bit And i5-3570k + 7870xt same thing And btw the starting scene where it rains heavily also lags a bit :/ so yea But both tested at 1920x1200 not 1600x900 Awesome ~~ it seem this game really a high end pc to run smoothing Anyway ~ I found out a stupid way to reduce the lagging ~ I just close all my application and just playing my game ~ it seem more smoothing ~~ Btw ~ thank ezmeer for testing
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ezmeer94
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May 22 2013, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 09:16 PM) Awesome ~~ it seem this game really a high end pc to run smoothing Anyway ~ I found out a stupid way to reduce the lagging ~ I just close all my application and just playing my game ~ it seem more smoothing ~~ Btw ~ thank ezmeer for testing  No prob bro Btw use razer game booster so it will close all apps with just a click of a button
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TSmunlok30
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May 22 2013, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ May 22 2013, 09:18 PM) No prob bro Btw use razer game booster so it will close all apps with just a click of a button  yaya ~ i am doing that
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bayagong
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May 22 2013, 10:03 PM
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fyi metro ll already got new update for amd gpu user
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TSmunlok30
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May 23 2013, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(bayagong @ May 22 2013, 10:03 PM) fyi metro ll already got new update for amd gpu user OK ~ thank you for ur info ~
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TSmunlok30
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May 23 2013, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(bayagong @ May 22 2013, 10:03 PM) fyi metro ll already got new update for amd gpu user OK ~ thank you for ur info ~
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TSmunlok30
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May 23 2013, 10:34 AM
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I know what should i do now ~
THank you for all senior senior bro bro and sister sister comment my thread~
I think i know how to solve my problem now ~
Thread close ya ~ thank you ~
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