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post May 22 2013, 11:00 AM, updated 13y ago

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Good morning guys ,

I post this topic on this forum because i have few question want to ask you guys ~ biggrin.gif

Currently i am using AMD 960 T with sapphire 7870 xt ~ tongue.gif

THe game which i currently playing are crysis 3 and metro last night rclxms.gif

I can feel the lagging when i playing the game ~ however i just set the graphic in HIGH setting icon_question.gif

So should i overclock my graphic card ?? rclxub.gif

anyway sorry for my bad english cool.gif
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post May 22 2013, 11:20 AM

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amd 960 processor?!
is it phenom II that 1?!
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post May 22 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(wesley1987 @ May 22 2013, 11:20 AM)
amd 960 processor?!
is it phenom II that 1?!
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IT is AMD Phenom II X4 960T

sorry not mention the full model tongue.gif
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post May 22 2013, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 11:21 AM)
IT is AMD Phenom II X4 960T

sorry not mention the full model  tongue.gif
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post May 22 2013, 11:29 AM

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Recently just bought the 7870 xt ~ now want to change again ~~

nononononono xD
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post May 22 2013, 11:33 AM

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so at that time y u do buy 7870 and not go to 7970~@@
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post May 22 2013, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(wesley1987 @ May 22 2013, 11:33 AM)
so at that time y u do buy 7870 and not go to 7970~@@
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The answer is very simple ~ i am just a student so i don't have sufficient money to buy a high end graphic card rclxms.gif

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post May 22 2013, 12:02 PM

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all setting in the game u set high? ur resolution 1920 x 1080?

i just bought 7870xt, and i'm using phenomII 555 (unlock to 4 core and oc at 3.6ghz). now i'm worried if my pc will lag too when playing games..
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post May 22 2013, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(azilazwa @ May 22 2013, 12:02 PM)
all setting in the game u set high? ur resolution 1920 x 1080?

i just bought 7870xt, and i'm using phenomII 555 (unlock to 4 core and oc at 3.6ghz). now i'm worried if my pc will lag too when playing games..
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yes sir ~ most of the game i set high setting because i thought this graphic card can support tongue.gif

but the way my resolution is just 1600 x 900 [ 20 inch monitor only ] very soon will buy a 24 inch

why not you test sir and tell me the result ~

i can feel the power of of lagging when i playing metro last night
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post May 22 2013, 12:06 PM

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i tried crysis 3 in high setting 1920x1080 reso with 7870xt..doesnt feel lag at all or it just myself? hmm.gif
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post May 22 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(ccboy @ May 22 2013, 12:06 PM)
i tried crysis 3 in high setting 1920x1080 reso with 7870xt..doesnt feel lag at all or it just myself? hmm.gif
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Sound weird ~~ i can feel the lagging bro~

anyway i also disable the AA for better framerate ~ but i ON AF laugh.gif
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post May 22 2013, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 11:00 AM)
Good morning guys ,

I post this topic on this forum because i have few question want to ask you guys ~  biggrin.gif

Currently i am using AMD 960 T with sapphire 7870 xt ~  tongue.gif

THe game which i currently playing are crysis 3 and metro last night  rclxms.gif

I can feel the  lagging  when i playing the game ~ however i just set the graphic in HIGH setting  icon_question.gif

So should i overclock my graphic card ??  rclxub.gif

anyway sorry for my bad english  cool.gif
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Crysis 3 is not just a GPU-demanding game. It's quite CPU demanding as well.
Try overclocking your CPU first. You can monitor the in game CPU usage as well, and if the CPU usage hits 100% constantly, your CPU might be the bottleneck.
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may i know ur pc full spec? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 11:34 AM)
The answer is very simple ~ i am just a student so i don't have sufficient money to buy a high end graphic card  rclxms.gif
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==“ 7870 also can quote be high end card~zzz
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post May 22 2013, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(ccboy @ May 22 2013, 12:13 PM)
may i know ur pc full spec? tongue.gif
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Specs is in my siggy. tongue.gif
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post May 22 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ May 22 2013, 12:17 PM)
Specs is in my siggy. tongue.gif
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Kingston HyperX 8GB 1600 Mhz

sapphire 7870 xt

AMD Phenom II X4 960T Black Edition

I am just a small gamer tongue.gif

hope you guys don't laugh mee rclxm9.gif
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post May 22 2013, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ May 22 2013, 12:13 PM)
Crysis 3 is not just a GPU-demanding game.  It's quite CPU demanding as well.
Try overclocking your CPU first.  You can monitor the in game CPU usage as well, and if the CPU usage hits 100% constantly, your CPU might be the bottleneck.
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I have a question to ask sir ~

Is that mean crysis 3 performance is base on CPU not GPU tongue.gif
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post May 22 2013, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:06 PM)
yes sir ~ most of the game i set high setting because i thought this graphic card can support  tongue.gif

but the way my resolution is just 1600 x 900 [ 20 inch monitor only ] very soon will buy a 24 inch

why not you test sir and tell me the result ~

i can feel the power of of lagging when i playing metro last night
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my card is on the way. just bought it from hikari85 yesterday, maybe tomoro i will receive it. later can test. i tot 7870xt consider quite good oredi, since it is using tahiti core (iinm la). hmm
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QUOTE(azilazwa @ May 22 2013, 12:23 PM)
my card is on the way. just bought it from hikari85 yesterday, maybe tomoro i will receive it. later can test. i tot 7870xt consider quite good oredi, since it is using tahiti core (iinm la). hmm
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yes..it is a good card nod.gif

best bang for your buck but still for the game that require graphic hunger, this card will suffer abit la sweat.gif
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post May 22 2013, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(azilazwa @ May 22 2013, 12:23 PM)
my card is on the way. just bought it from hikari85 yesterday, maybe tomoro i will receive it. later can test. i tot 7870xt consider quite good oredi, since it is using tahiti core (iinm la). hmm
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ok~~ after you test remember to tell me the results~~

just the little big lagging and not very obvious but you still can feel the lagging itself icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(ccboy @ May 22 2013, 12:27 PM)
yes..it is a good card nod.gif

best bang for your buck but still for the game that require graphic hunger, this card will suffer abit la  sweat.gif
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that's what i heard too. best bang for the buck card (7870xt). anyways, ts pc spec is higher than mine, so i guess i will suffer this too. haiz rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:22 PM)
I have a question to ask sir ~

Is that mean crysis 3 performance is base on CPU not GPU  tongue.gif
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Do read and understand his statement before asking the same question again. Crysis 3 is both cpu and gpu demanding.
Try follow the steps he provided by monitoring your cpu usage during gaming to see if it reach 100% or close to that.
It might be a bottleneck issue that cause your gpu not operate at full potential.
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Oh, BTW did you install the latest AMD graphics driver? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:20 PM)
Kingston HyperX 8GB 1600 Mhz

sapphire 7870 xt

AMD Phenom II X4 960T Black Edition

I am just a small gamer  tongue.gif

hope you guys don't laugh mee  rclxm9.gif
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dude i think your cpu is bottlenecking your GPU bro
the 7870XT is almost comparable to 7950
and can be overclocked to 7950 level performance no sweat
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post May 22 2013, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ May 22 2013, 12:30 PM)
Do read and understand his statement before asking the same question again. Crysis 3 is both cpu and gpu demanding.
Try follow the steps he provided by monitoring your cpu usage during gaming to see if it reach 100% or close to that.
It might be a bottleneck issue that cause your gpu not operate at full potential.
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okok i understand sir ~~

I open tast manager and see my CPU usage it doesn't hit 100 % biggrin.gif

anyway sir ~ how about metro last night ???
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ May 22 2013, 12:33 PM)
Oh, BTW did you install the latest AMD graphics driver? tongue.gif
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yes boss ~ i am using latest AMD graphic driver right now flex.gif
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ May 22 2013, 12:41 PM)
dude i think your cpu is bottlenecking your GPU bro
the 7870XT is almost comparable to 7950
and can be overclocked to 7950 level performance no sweat
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Hi ezmeer ~

Is that mean i have to change my CPU icon_question.gif

As i know quad core i enough for gaming ~

correct me if i am wrong wink.gif
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I have tested the HD 7870 XT on Crysis 3. I can play at Very High settings and FXAA. Using Fraps to measure the frame rates, I only get around 33 FPS only. Gameplay is still considered marginally smooth for me, no lagging.

And yes, Crysis 3 is really dependent on your CPU too. See the graph below. Generally, Core i3 and below is bottlenecking a GTX 680 already. More read here.

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Me also have 7870xt (bought it last week) and it looks good. Playing Star Craft 2, Metro 2033, Fallout New Vegas, Warhammer 40k all in high setting no problem.

Will try Skyrim, Metro LL and Company of Heroes 2 in the coming weeks rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 22 2013, 12:47 PM)
I have tested the HD 7870 XT on Crysis 3. I can play at Very High settings and FXAA. Using Fraps to measure the frame rates, I only get around 33 FPS only. Gameplay is still considered marginally smooth for me, no lagging.

And yes, Crysis 3 is really dependent on your CPU too. See the graph below. Generally, Core i3 and below is bottlenecking a GTX 680 already. More read here.

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Thank you for your extra info for making me more understanding ~~

So if i want a higher FPS then i should change a more powerful CPU rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:51 PM)
Thank you for your extra info for making me more understanding ~~

So if i want a higher FPS then i should change a more powerful CPU  rclxms.gif
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Switch to intel then bro brows.gif
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 01:46 PM)
Hi ezmeer ~

Is that mean i have to change my CPU  icon_question.gif 

As i know quad core i enough for gaming ~

correct me if i am wrong  wink.gif
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i object so.
960T is an unlockable processor and it's perform quite very well. The cpu might perform slower than any other i5 or FXs but it's still a good processor. Why dump it off for an improvement of few frames?
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ May 22 2013, 12:53 PM)
Switch to intel then bro  brows.gif
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What >.< !!

I thought AMD processor + AMD graphic card is always better flex.gif

This is what the vendor recommend me cool2.gif
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:54 PM)
What >.< !!

I thought AMD processor + AMD graphic card is always better  flex.gif

This is what the vendor recommend me  cool2.gif
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actually it doesnt even matter sweat.gif
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:46 PM)
Hi ezmeer ~

Is that mean i have to change my CPU  icon_question.gif 

As i know quad core i enough for gaming ~

correct me if i am wrong  wink.gif
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try overclocking it bro smile.gif and buy a new aftermarket cooler at a cheap price
else make a switch to intel tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ May 22 2013, 12:58 PM)
try overclocking it bro smile.gif and buy a new aftermarket cooler at a cheap price
else make a switch to intel tongue.gif
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Yes ~ i just overclock my processor a bit but it seem no different xD

~ i am using cooler master hyper 212 evo ~ biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 12:51 PM)
Thank you for your extra info for making me more understanding ~~

So if i want a higher FPS then i should change a more powerful CPU  rclxms.gif
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First, try to OC your processor. Phenoms are generally known to be good overclockers. You should be able to minimize some of the bottleneck by doing so.

Also, bear in mind that there is certain limit on how much FPS you can get from the HD 7870 XT. FYI, the HD 7870 LE inside the graph is the same as 7870 XT.

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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 01:04 PM)
Yes ~ i just overclock my processor a bit but it seem no different xD

~ i am using cooler master hyper 212 evo ~  biggrin.gif
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hmmm overclock the card to 1200mhz
that will give u hd7950 level performance
but crysis 3 is a gpu and cpu killer
even my i7 3770k with gtx680 suffers a bit


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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ May 22 2013, 01:06 PM)
hmmm overclock the card to 1200mhz
that will give u hd7950 level performance
but crysis 3 is a gpu and cpu killer
even my i7 3770k with gtx680 suffers a bit
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You must be kidding sir ~~

Your processor and your graphic card is good enough for gaming compare with MINE drool.gif
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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 01:11 PM)
You must be kidding sir ~~

Your processor and your graphic card is good enough for gaming compare with MINE  drool.gif
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it also takes quite a hit with all eye candy turned on at 1920x1200
btw ill test crysis 3 with my htpc that have 7870xt gpu
ill let u know
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 22 2013, 01:05 PM)
First, try to OC your processor. Phenoms are generally known to be good overclockers. You should be able to minimize some of the bottleneck by doing so.

Also, bear in mind that there is certain limit on how much FPS you can get from the HD 7870 XT. FYI, the HD 7870 LE inside the graph is the same as 7870 XT.

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okies sir ~~

I just try to overclock my processor from 3.0 GHZ to 3.4 GHZ ~

However the lagging is become lesser but i still can feel the lagging ~

Especially when they are a lot MONSTER coming out rclxms.gif
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Hi bro,

I am user of 7870XT + FX 6300 @ 4.0 GHZ, but the graphic card did not overclock. Same with me when I play Far Cry 3 max settings, it lag a bit. I know that feeling when the game lags haha. Dont know why it lags, I thought its enuff already..

Anyone have the link for latest AMD catalyst + driver for 7870XT?
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QUOTE(Prothero @ May 22 2013, 01:18 PM)
Hi bro,

I am user of 7870XT + FX 6300 @ 4.0 GHZ, but the graphic card did not overclock. Same with me when I play Far Cry 3 max settings, it lag a bit. I know that feeling when the game lags haha. Dont know why it lags, I thought its enuff already..

Anyone have the link for latest AMD catalyst + driver for 7870XT?
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Go to and site and download the beta driver
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QUOTE(Prothero @ May 22 2013, 01:18 PM)
Hi bro,

I am user of 7870XT + FX 6300 @ 4.0 GHZ, but the graphic card did not overclock. Same with me when I play Far Cry 3 max settings, it lag a bit. I know that feeling when the game lags haha. Dont know why it lags, I thought its enuff already..

Anyone have the link for latest AMD catalyst + driver for 7870XT?
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Glad to hear that you facing the same problem with me~

Anyway your processor is better than mine a lot xD
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ May 22 2013, 01:14 PM)
it also takes quite a hit with all eye candy turned on at 1920x1200
btw ill test crysis 3 with my htpc that have 7870xt gpu
ill let u know
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okies sir ~~

i will wait for your reply rclxms.gif
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Metro LL is not a very optimised game for AMD cards atm

wait till their next drivers roll out, that should fix the lagging problems

people with HD7970 still complaining of massive lag on Metro LL btw
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 22 2013, 04:11 PM)
Metro LL is not a very optimised game for AMD cards atm

wait till their next drivers roll out, that should fix the lagging problems

people with HD7970 still complaining of massive lag on Metro LL btw
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Thank you for ur info sir ~~

Then i should wait for the next update then only play Metro LL drool.gif

BTW ~ overclock-ing processor really help a lot to reduce the lagging cool2.gif

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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 04:14 PM)
Thank you for ur info sir ~~

Then i should wait for the next update then only play Metro LL  drool.gif

BTW ~ overclock-ing processor really help a lot to reduce the lagging  cool2.gif
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OCing processor does helps

just that whether by a huge margin or small margin only
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After reading u using feel to detect lag, try using FRAPS to measure your frames per second, more accurate smile.gif
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QUOTE(s3iryu @ May 22 2013, 05:22 PM)
After reading u using feel to detect lag, try using FRAPS to measure your frames per second, more accurate  smile.gif
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Thank you for ur suggestion ~ i will try to use FRAPS later to test ~
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Hi there yes I just tried i3-2120 + 7870xt = not bad but lag a bit
And i5-3570k + 7870xt same thing
And btw the starting scene where it rains heavily also lags a bit :/ so yea
But both tested at 1920x1200 not 1600x900
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ May 22 2013, 08:49 PM)
Hi there yes I just tried i3-2120 + 7870xt = not bad but lag a bit
And i5-3570k + 7870xt same thing
And btw the starting scene where it rains heavily also lags a bit :/ so yea
But both tested at 1920x1200 not 1600x900
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Awesome ~~ it seem this game really a high end pc to run smoothing drool.gif

Anyway ~ I found out a stupid way to reduce the lagging ~

I just close all my application and just playing my game ~ it seem more smoothing ~~

Btw ~ thank ezmeer for testing rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(munlok30 @ May 22 2013, 09:16 PM)
Awesome ~~ it seem this game really a high end pc to run smoothing  drool.gif

Anyway ~ I found out a stupid way to reduce the lagging ~

I just close all my application and just playing my game ~ it seem more smoothing ~~

Btw ~ thank ezmeer for testing  rclxms.gif
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No prob bro smile.gif
Btw use razer game booster so it will close all apps with just a click of a button tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ May 22 2013, 09:18 PM)
No prob bro smile.gif
Btw use razer game booster so it will close all apps with just a click of a button tongue.gif
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yaya ~ i am doing that drool.gif


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fyi metro ll already got new update for amd gpu user
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QUOTE(bayagong @ May 22 2013, 10:03 PM)
fyi metro ll already got new update for amd gpu user
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QUOTE(bayagong @ May 22 2013, 10:03 PM)
fyi metro ll already got new update for amd gpu user
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I know what should i do now ~

THank you for all senior senior bro bro and sister sister comment my thread~

I think i know how to solve my problem now ~

Thread close ya ~ thank you ~

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