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 Biostar Tforce 6100 Overclocking Discussion, Biostar Tforce 6100 modded bios inside!

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dblooi
post Dec 9 2006, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Dec 6 2006, 07:17 PM)
yes , u can.
I'm doing so now.

Check here for latest stable modded bios.
http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-bin/ul...?ubb=forum;f=53

How to flash?
Get a floppy drive and a diskette.
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dude i flash to the 505 bios adi ( for 6100 am2, not the modded 1) , but it took wrong measurement for the temperature ( idle 22 C , gosh i hope badly this is real one sweat.gif ) and i havent try out the beta modded bios bcoz it is using different file format ( dun dare to take the risks)

so how's the modded bios, do this temperature problem occured in 505 modded bios ?
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post Dec 11 2006, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Dec 11 2006, 10:57 AM)
temperature doesn't solved in 505 modded version.
Just use "coretemp" to measure your temperature.

go for 505.RH, its good.
Using it now.
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isshhh... coz im using SMART mode to control over the cpu fan, if i flash to 505 bios , my cpu fan will operate in 600 RPM -800 RPM... dun feel like wanna tune the PWM/ value thingy oso bcoz i adi feel very hate when i saw the fake temperature.

oh ya, how u flash to 505 .RH, can flash it by using winflash in windows?
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post Dec 11 2006, 12:18 PM

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for am2 user, anyone encounter this b4?

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flash to latest bios then can solve this problem laugh.gif
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post Feb 3 2007, 03:55 AM

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i purposely raise this thread up for the reason to clear my doubt

for 6100am2 user, anyone try b4 the latest bios? CR51A131 which released on 2007/1/31

Damn with this version of bios i can't even play warcraft 3 TFT . I'hv encounter laggy screen when i tried to load war3.

I'm wondering what happened to Biostar? Every version of their BIOS CONFIRM has some problems , either minor or serious bug.

oh yeah, can someone pls try it? To prove that i'm not the only one, thanks laugh.gif

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post Feb 12 2007, 04:26 AM

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QUOTE(zamree7 @ Feb 7 2007, 04:37 PM)
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i'm not biostar tforce 6100 user but still biostar mobo owner (tforce 570U), the thing is i'm also encounter same problem as @dblooi sumtimes when i play warcraft the screen become laggy and straight need to close it.. rclxub.gif

isit bios that make this happen?

what i suspect here is that this game(Warcraft3) not fully support X2 proc since i open my Task manager and see the war3.exe didn't use any CPU resources rclxub.gif
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bro zamree7,

i think ur case is caused by other reason , for me im sure is the new bios caused my onboard GPU overheated ( overheat? i guess so). now i already swapped back to older version of BIOS, so far so good
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post May 14 2007, 03:41 AM

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just to share this v people, 360HTT achieved . Too bad i'm using stock cooling , the temperature rise like hell when im trying to prime it. Will submit a prime stable screenie after swap to better cpu cooler. rclxms.gif


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edited: this is Tforce 6100 AM2 mobo

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post May 19 2007, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(jumajuma @ May 18 2007, 08:41 PM)
this is using bios or clockgen??
personally i only manage to clock up to 280~285mhz thru bios..
if u're using bios pls let me know which ver. ur board is (ver1.1 or ver1.3) and also bios version?
biostar didnt improve their bios so i dont think 280mhz would be enough if i using brisbane 3600+,
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i booted up as default speed then further adjust in the windows by using clockgen and biostar overclocking tool. Max speed that i tried to clock up tru bios is 320-340X8 ( Cant remember adi but it is more than 300HTT) .My mobo is rev 1.1 . As u can see in the screenshot, i'm using 811 BIOS rclxms.gif However, i always swap between 505 and 811 BIOS. Sometimes i will use 505 bios also as it is pretty overclockable + ram timing menu available in that bios rclxms.gif

This mobo can go very far by using clockgen in windows. I'm sure u can play with brisbane pretty well by using this mobo. The things i don't like about this mobo are the limitation of vcore & vdimm, cannot go further without extra vcore and vdimm cry.gif

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QUOTE(jumajuma @ May 26 2007, 12:02 PM)
i love 505RH bios too but it doesnt give the correct temp for core. i'll try the 811 bios today. we have the same revision board but i'm using 3500 orlean. max clock using the maximum voltage thru bios is only 2.8ghz, this proc need more voltage coz i dont have any problem with temp. i'm using xp90c with nidec fan 110cfm icon_rolleyes.gif
but thru biostar tool i can reach 3ghz with 1.6v, i read somewhere in rebel haven forum their chip regulator in the board only can supply maximum 1.55v but why using biostar tool we can set the voltage at 1.6v hmm.gif my proc need this voltage to reach more than 2.8ghz.
looks like biostar still didnt do a good bios for this board, and i afraid their will not give any attention since their have another replacement board eg. ta690g! so i might buy this board first. their vdimm and vcore max is so promising!!
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actually u can read the correct temp by using speed fan in windows ( i only tried on that modded 505 bios b4, nv try on orignal 505), it works . So basically temp bug can be ignored. U can use 1.6v by using the biostar tool? i could'nt cry.gif The screen freezes when i change to 1.6v. I really dunno why other can while i couldn't.

About Ta690G, i believe that 6100 am2 can reach higher max HTT than TA690G. But consider 6100 am2 is so buggy and problematic, it is never a wrong choice to swap to a better mobo icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(jumajuma @ May 27 2007, 08:58 PM)
yes i could change the core voltage but i just realize my bios rite now (507RH) make my biostar tool freeze when i change the voltage to 1.6v, so the freezing problem is causing by bios for sure. i need to find the rite bios first and will let u know which version support biostar tool.
i love this board too but for this whole year i'm waiting their best bios but not even one is impress me and i can see this board can go really far using clockgen/biostar tool. and my max vdimm only 2.06v even i set jumper at 2.2v..
i like ati chipset coz it run fairly cool, i have ecs rs482 m-atx last time and it run in superslim m-atx without any problem plus mild overclocking. very nice!!
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oic ... i was wondering what caused the biostar tool freezes. Thanks for telling me this. i will try to find out the right bios as well.

Personally i think that TF7050 M2 is much more better for you if you are looking for mighty OCable MATX motherboard. according to the user comments, that mobo can easily do 330-350HTT in bios and post without any problem. That's quit solid if it's true. And the chipset is cool as well. That TA690G seems lose a bit in term of oc ability. Just my 2cents rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ May 29 2007, 01:54 AM)
halo bro~...i'm really noob about update my Tforce 6100 AM2 bios...mine i think was v6.0 ( don't really remember.....) somebody plz tech me how to update my BIOS.....( to resolved some temp prob and also GC onboard prob ).... sweat.gif
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download bios from here

then use winflash program in your motherboard driver installer cd to update ur bios
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QUOTE(bata @ May 29 2007, 04:55 AM)
may i know whether TForce series mobo can change multiplier @ not
my M9 cant...and i like WTF....sweat.gif
Chow.
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u meant cpu multiplier? ya it is available in both bios and windows ( biostar tool) options.

M9 cant? and i like WTF ...... as well rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ May 29 2007, 11:02 PM)
may i know which one do u recommend....just want to solves temp & onboard GC problem!! icon_question.gif
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personally i love CR51A811 bios. It runs freaking stable . Bios from 811 onwards have onboard gc overheat problem ( i've just tested few of them, for confirmation u need to try by yourself) . I've tried to install windows vista after i flash to those later bios ( not 811), i cant even boot into windows vista due to the onboard gc overheated. I read from a few chinese forums, ppl mentioned that it is overheated because biostar enable the purevideo function for 6100 ( by default supposed 6100 could not support pure video, only 6150 can ).

you can try 811 bios , it should be able to solve your temp & gc problem rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ May 30 2007, 02:13 PM)
thanks...will try it later!!


Added on May 30, 2007, 10:22 pmtry the newest one...CR51A507!!problem solved  notworthy.gif ...i think what u saying about overheat is right!!damn hot when i touch GC heatsink!!! blush.gif
by the way bro~ anybody can translate to me what is this??
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

p/s : taken from the web...
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修正X2 3600+ 65nm cpu重启时需复位1次才能开机问题.

fix the bug that need to clear CMOS then only can restart when using X2 3600+ 65nm . if not cannot post. Something like that .

QUOTE(bata @ May 31 2007, 03:45 AM)
yup, cant adjust CpU multiplier...
i tot it's same as TForce sad.gif
OC-ability ok lor
able to push 146 till 270 1:1 smile.gif
but cant adjust multiplier still....sad.gif
p/s: anyone who want to let go their TForce can pm me tongue.gif
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Oooic... opty user oOooo... hehe laugh.gif
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Jun 1 2007, 12:12 AM)
thanks bro...becoz i'm using x2 3600+( 65nm) blush.gif ... another things when i'm using latest bios CR51A507 ....CPU temp drop to 37C (using 3rd party cooler) then i try what u suggest bios CR51A811 ..... temp shot up to 54C .....big different!!!
cry.gif any comment??
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hi there, don't believe the temperature. It doesn't work well for brisbane 3600+ . I'm using the same proc like you as well, hehe. It shows 50+ C when i was using 811 but then i use thermometer to measure the proc, it is around 38~40C only. The only thing i can say is trust yourself. You should know whether the proc is hot or not. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Jun 1 2007, 05:17 PM)
thanks man.....really help me a lot!!! thumbup.gif
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welcome , buddy. Btw, have you try to OC b4? What's the maximum HTT u can reach with this motherboard? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Jun 1 2007, 11:01 PM)
blush.gif sori bro~..i'm very noob in OC...still learning how!!but too afaird i might scr*w it up sweat.gif
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don't worry, this mobo can go very far without problem.

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It is a sin to run brisbane at its default speed.
And I've heard this somewhere in this forum.

here's my sceenshot, shoot up to 390HTT without problem, and it is not the limit yet.

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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Jun 2 2007, 11:31 PM)
WOOOW!!! drool.gif can u plz teach me how to OC...or even give me a link for begginer like me??? icon_idea.gif
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There are many people discussing about am2 overclocking in this forum everyday.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/316293

I realized that brisbane X2 3600+ is abit cacat with its x9.5 multiplier when pair with Tforce 6100 am2 (even the latest bios is still causing the problems). Pc always restart when i tried to OC it ( sometimes need to clear CMOS in oder to recover it) . So i change the cpu multiplier to X9.0 , everything works fine after that. rclxms.gif

Remember to maintain your HT link at a level that not more than 1000 Mhz ( HT link = multiply of bus speed , 2X, 3X, 4X or 5X) . You can change it in your BIOS. And disable CPU spread spectrum when you OC. Enjoys laugh.gif

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QUOTE(mineSweeper @ Jun 3 2007, 10:30 PM)
how is the temperature like using 1.5v?

i use 1.35v my cpu can already reach 60 degree when i run orthos and it will  auto shut down pc. when i touch the heatsink, its hot. so i assume the temp reading in bios is accurate.
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you are using stock cooler? Which motherboard you are using? How much u overclock? Which version of bios are u using? Show a screenshot if can

I'm doing this for screenshot purpose, If prime it , cannot tahan also unless i change a better cooler.

i dunno what happen to your case. But for my case, the temperature reading is inaccurate. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Jun 1 2007, 12:12 AM)
thanks bro...becoz i'm using x2 3600+( 65nm) blush.gif ... another things when i'm using latest bios CR51A507 ....CPU temp drop to 37C (using 3rd party cooler) then i try what u suggest bios CR51A811 ..... temp shot up to 54C .....big different!!!
cry.gif any comment??
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I'm saying about the temp problem regarding to his reply rclxms.gif

it looks accurate to u bcoz u are using the latest bios

another thing is, u can boot in to windows with 300HTT? What's the ram divider that u used?

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QUOTE(mineSweeper @ Jun 4 2007, 01:07 PM)
my ram divider 533
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oic, currently i'm running at 306HTT , able to post into windows without problem. I'm using ram divider 800 rclxms.gif

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